RE: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>RESPONSE: Yeah, that's what I want for now.  I want to see what happens
>when
>the garbage collector is called normally.

Don't forget to enable verbose GC.

>On a side note, I just called System.gc() manually and it only cleared
a
>couple hundred bytes.  I will try later though, as it hasn't been long
>since last restart.

Clearing only a couple of hundred bytes suggest the memory is used and
references held, making it less likely to be a pure memory leak.

As an aside, System.gc() is just a suggestion to the VM.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Seth Newton
>These settings suggest a minimum heap of 60MB, and a maximum heap of
>80m.  Is that the behavior you want?
RESPONSE: Yeah, that's what I want for now.  I want to see what happens when
the garbage collector is called normally.

On a side note, I just called System.gc() manually and it only cleared a
couple hundred bytes.  I will try later though, as it hasn't been long since
last restart.

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>
> Howdy,
>
> >> You realize these numbers are meaningless to anyone except you, as we
> >> don't know what you're measuring, how you're measuring it, what the
> >> proper results / proper behavior is, etc.
> >No, I didn't realize my numbers meant nothing.  I figured them to be
> >self-explanatory.  The numbers supplied were there simply as evidence
> of
> >the
> >incremental increase of memory over time.  That's all.  I apologize for
> any
> >confusion.
>
> I was unclear -- they're not evidence of anything until you explain how
> they're measured and what you would expect to see under "normal"
> conditions (or alternatively show the numbers from Solaris and Linux
> side by side, allowing space for JVM implementation variability).
>
> >Actually, I didn't reset them after the upgrade to Tomcat 4.1.27.  I
> just
> >changed them to -Xms60m -Xmx80m.
>
> These settings suggest a minimum heap of 60MB, and a maximum heap of
> 80m.  Is that the behavior you want?
>
> Yoav Shapira
>
>
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RE: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>> You realize these numbers are meaningless to anyone except you, as we
>> don't know what you're measuring, how you're measuring it, what the
>> proper results / proper behavior is, etc.
>No, I didn't realize my numbers meant nothing.  I figured them to be
>self-explanatory.  The numbers supplied were there simply as evidence
of
>the
>incremental increase of memory over time.  That's all.  I apologize for
any
>confusion.

I was unclear -- they're not evidence of anything until you explain how
they're measured and what you would expect to see under "normal"
conditions (or alternatively show the numbers from Solaris and Linux
side by side, allowing space for JVM implementation variability).

>Actually, I didn't reset them after the upgrade to Tomcat 4.1.27.  I
just
>changed them to -Xms60m -Xmx80m.

These settings suggest a minimum heap of 60MB, and a maximum heap of
80m.  Is that the behavior you want?

Yoav Shapira



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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Seth Newton
> You realize these numbers are meaningless to anyone except you, as we
> don't know what you're measuring, how you're measuring it, what the
> proper results / proper behavior is, etc.
No, I didn't realize my numbers meant nothing.  I figured them to be
self-explanatory.  The numbers supplied were there simply as evidence of the
incremental increase of memory over time.  That's all.  I apologize for any
confusion.

> One thing worth investigating is the GC settings.  What are they right
> now?
Actually, I didn't reset them after the upgrade to Tomcat 4.1.27.  I just
changed them to -Xms60m -Xmx80m.
I'll change these numbers after I'm done babysitting the server, but I'd
like to see what happens once the limit is reached.

-Seth.
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content


>
> Howdy,
>
> >Here's what's happened on the server since 12:40 today
> >
> >Virtual Size: 112592
> >Real Size: 61880
> >Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:05:20
> 
>
> You realize these numbers are meaningless to anyone except you, as we
> don't know what you're measuring, how you're measuring it, what the
> proper results / proper behavior is, etc.
>
> >This is an example of what's happening.  The memory it is using
> increases,
> >yet never decreases.  I'm able to run more processes on another server
> of
> >ours under Linux, and the memory never increases over 60MB.
>
> On tomcat on Linux, you mean?  If so, wouldn't that conclude that the
> problem is in the OS, not in Tomcat or your code?  You're using the same
> JVM version on Solaris and Linux, right?
>
> One thing worth investigating is the GC settings.  What are they right
> now?
>
> Yoav Shapira
>
>
>
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RE: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

>Here's what's happened on the server since 12:40 today
>
>Virtual Size: 112592
>Real Size: 61880
>Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:05:20


You realize these numbers are meaningless to anyone except you, as we
don't know what you're measuring, how you're measuring it, what the
proper results / proper behavior is, etc.

>This is an example of what's happening.  The memory it is using
increases,
>yet never decreases.  I'm able to run more processes on another server
of
>ours under Linux, and the memory never increases over 60MB.

On tomcat on Linux, you mean?  If so, wouldn't that conclude that the
problem is in the OS, not in Tomcat or your code?  You're using the same
JVM version on Solaris and Linux, right?

One thing worth investigating is the GC settings.  What are they right
now?

Yoav Shapira




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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Seth Newton
Here's what's happened on the server since 12:40 today

Virtual Size: 112592
Real Size: 61880
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:05:20

Virtual Size: 112592
Real Size: 62288
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:15:20

Virtual Size: 112592
Real Size: 64376
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:25:20

Virtual Size: 140976
Real Size: 76688
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:35:21

Virtual Size: 142048
Real Size: 78824
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:45:20

Virtual Size: 142048
Real Size: 78976
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 01:55:20

Virtual Size: 142056
Real Size: 79000
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 02:05:20

Virtual Size: 142056
Real Size: 79240
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 02:15:20

Virtual Size: 142056
Real Size: 79624
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 02:25:21

Virtual Size: 142056
Real Size: 80400
Time Up(days-hours:minutes:seconds): 02:35:20

This is an example of what's happening.  The memory it is using increases,
yet never decreases.  I'm able to run more processes on another server of
ours under Linux, and the memory never increases over 60MB.

-Seth.
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From: "Seth Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Memory Leak with static content


> Yoav,
>
> Thanks for the response.  I've used what you've suggested in the past on
> development servers, but I'm saving your suggestion for a last ditch
> possibility.  The length of time to install a profiler and re-familiarize
> myself with its use is something I'd like to skip.  On top of that, this
is
> a production server and I wouldn't want to run a profiler and stress it
out
> ;).
>
> I'm trying hard to stand behind the jakarta community here, because I've
> gotten some good use out of Tomcat in the past.  I'm even taking heat from
> fellow developers for using Tomcat on a production server, but I think it
> can be done.  I'll wait and see if there are any more suggestions, and
then
> I'll either decide to trudge ahead with OptimizeIt or just change java
> servers.
>
> -Seth.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:40 PM
> Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content
>
>
> >
> > Howdy,
> > Run your app with a  profiler and a stress tool and see when and where
> > memory is allocated.
> >
> > Yoav Shapira
> > Millennium ChemInformatics
> >
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:34 PM
> > >To: Tomcat Users List
> > >Subject: Re: Memory Leak with static content
> > >
> > >All,
> > >
> > >Updates to this issue
> > >
> > >-I'm not sure if it's the OS, but I've never seen this happen before on
> > >other Solaris installs.  What would I look at to determine if it's the
> > >OS?..
> > >The way that question is phrased makes it difficult for me to
> > completely
> > >understand what you mean. Can you be more specific?
> > >-It did take up memory until Tomcat would no longer serve pages.  Users
> > >would try to see their sites and just get a blank white screen until
> > their
> > >request timed out.  I haven't let it time go incrementally since I've
> > >upgraded Tomcat or the jdk, however, I may let it stall out if I get
> > that
> > >desperate.
> > >-I upgraded to 1.4.2 and still the memory increases.
> > >-Yes, I'm closing all streams in the email class.  Also, this
> > particular
> > >code has been used successfully across platforms and across java
> > servers
> > >for
> > >about 3 years now.
> > >
> > >Anymore input is greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >-Seth.
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "Nikolaos Giannopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:04 PM
> > >Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content
> > >
> > >
> > >> Seth,
> > >>
> > >> Have you tried JDK 1.4.2?  1.4.0 has been known to have a memory leak
> > in
> > >the
> > >> StringBuffer implementation w.r.t. re-using StringBuffers but you
> > mention
> > >> that your only serving static content so this

RE: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
I assumed you had a test server that mimic your production setup -- I
wasn't suggested you run with a profiler on a production server, as the
slowdown is unbearable usually ;)

Make sure the server in question has all the required Solaris OS patches
for the JDK version you're using.  We forgot to do that a couple of
times and had unstable behavior.

Other than that, I concur with what Senor Giannopoulos said: we've seen
no problems running tomcat with JDK 1.4.2 on Solaris 8 in production for
heavy traffic sites with lots of static (and dynamic) content.  In fact,
we moved from $$$ servers to tomcat and have been exceedingly happy with
the results.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


>-Original Message-
>From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:01 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: Memory Leak with static content
>
>Yoav,
>
>Thanks for the response.  I've used what you've suggested in the past
on
>development servers, but I'm saving your suggestion for a last ditch
>possibility.  The length of time to install a profiler and
re-familiarize
>myself with its use is something I'd like to skip.  On top of that,
this is
>a production server and I wouldn't want to run a profiler and stress it
out
>;).
>
>I'm trying hard to stand behind the jakarta community here, because
I've
>gotten some good use out of Tomcat in the past.  I'm even taking heat
from
>fellow developers for using Tomcat on a production server, but I think
it
>can be done.  I'll wait and see if there are any more suggestions, and
then
>I'll either decide to trudge ahead with OptimizeIt or just change java
>servers.
>
>-Seth.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:40 PM
>Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content
>
>
>>
>> Howdy,
>> Run your app with a  profiler and a stress tool and see when and
where
>> memory is allocated.
>>
>> Yoav Shapira
>> Millennium ChemInformatics
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:34 PM
>> >To: Tomcat Users List
>> >Subject: Re: Memory Leak with static content
>> >
>> >All,
>> >
>> >Updates to this issue
>> >
>> >-I'm not sure if it's the OS, but I've never seen this happen before
on
>> >other Solaris installs.  What would I look at to determine if it's
the
>> >OS?..
>> >The way that question is phrased makes it difficult for me to
>> completely
>> >understand what you mean. Can you be more specific?
>> >-It did take up memory until Tomcat would no longer serve pages.
Users
>> >would try to see their sites and just get a blank white screen until
>> their
>> >request timed out.  I haven't let it time go incrementally since
I've
>> >upgraded Tomcat or the jdk, however, I may let it stall out if I get
>> that
>> >desperate.
>> >-I upgraded to 1.4.2 and still the memory increases.
>> >-Yes, I'm closing all streams in the email class.  Also, this
>> particular
>> >code has been used successfully across platforms and across java
>> servers
>> >for
>> >about 3 years now.
>> >
>> >Anymore input is greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> >-Seth.
>> >- Original Message -
>> >From: "Nikolaos Giannopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:04 PM
>> >Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content
>> >
>> >
>> >> Seth,
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried JDK 1.4.2?  1.4.0 has been known to have a memory
leak
>> in
>> >the
>> >> StringBuffer implementation w.r.t. re-using StringBuffers but you
>> mention
>> >> that your only serving static content so this may not be it.
>> >>
>> >> However, I believe that I read that something like 2000 bugs have
>> been
>> >fixed
>> >> in 1.4.2 (if my memory serves me well).  We have have no visible
>> problems
>> >> running tomcat 4.1.12/18 stand alone w/ 1.4.2 on Solaris 8 on 4
boxes
>> (no
>> >> JSPs - just servlets and static content).
>> >>
>> >> Please reply back if this works or does not work for you - we are
>> looking
&g

Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Seth Newton
Yoav,

Thanks for the response.  I've used what you've suggested in the past on
development servers, but I'm saving your suggestion for a last ditch
possibility.  The length of time to install a profiler and re-familiarize
myself with its use is something I'd like to skip.  On top of that, this is
a production server and I wouldn't want to run a profiler and stress it out
;).

I'm trying hard to stand behind the jakarta community here, because I've
gotten some good use out of Tomcat in the past.  I'm even taking heat from
fellow developers for using Tomcat on a production server, but I think it
can be done.  I'll wait and see if there are any more suggestions, and then
I'll either decide to trudge ahead with OptimizeIt or just change java
servers.

-Seth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content


>
> Howdy,
> Run your app with a  profiler and a stress tool and see when and where
> memory is allocated.
>
> Yoav Shapira
> Millennium ChemInformatics
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:34 PM
> >To: Tomcat Users List
> >Subject: Re: Memory Leak with static content
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Updates to this issue
> >
> >-I'm not sure if it's the OS, but I've never seen this happen before on
> >other Solaris installs.  What would I look at to determine if it's the
> >OS?..
> >The way that question is phrased makes it difficult for me to
> completely
> >understand what you mean. Can you be more specific?
> >-It did take up memory until Tomcat would no longer serve pages.  Users
> >would try to see their sites and just get a blank white screen until
> their
> >request timed out.  I haven't let it time go incrementally since I've
> >upgraded Tomcat or the jdk, however, I may let it stall out if I get
> that
> >desperate.
> >-I upgraded to 1.4.2 and still the memory increases.
> >-Yes, I'm closing all streams in the email class.  Also, this
> particular
> >code has been used successfully across platforms and across java
> servers
> >for
> >about 3 years now.
> >
> >Anymore input is greatly appreciated.
> >
> >-Seth.
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Nikolaos Giannopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:04 PM
> >Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content
> >
> >
> >> Seth,
> >>
> >> Have you tried JDK 1.4.2?  1.4.0 has been known to have a memory leak
> in
> >the
> >> StringBuffer implementation w.r.t. re-using StringBuffers but you
> mention
> >> that your only serving static content so this may not be it.
> >>
> >> However, I believe that I read that something like 2000 bugs have
> been
> >fixed
> >> in 1.4.2 (if my memory serves me well).  We have have no visible
> problems
> >> running tomcat 4.1.12/18 stand alone w/ 1.4.2 on Solaris 8 on 4 boxes
> (no
> >> JSPs - just servlets and static content).
> >>
> >> Please reply back if this works or does not work for you - we are
> looking
> >at
> >> upgrading our Tomcat instances in the near future.
> >>
> >> HTH.
> >>
> >> --Nikolaos
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:58 PM
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: Memory Leak with static content
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All,
> >> >
> >> > OS: Sparc-Solaris 9
> >> > JDK: 1.4.0_02
> >> > Tomcat: 4.1.27
> >> >
> >> > Problem:
> >> > I start tomcat and it takes up about 45MB of RAM.  I wrote a
> >> > script to email me every ten minutes the amount of memory it's
> >> > taking up.  The results are showing me that it gains about 1MB
> >> > every 10 minutes or so (on average).  If I let it go, it will
> >> > grow until it runs out of memory.  Right now, I have a script to
> >> > restart tomcat after the memory is too high.  This is a bad
> >> > solution.  I&#

RE: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Run your app with a  profiler and a stress tool and see when and where
memory is allocated.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


>-Original Message-
>From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:34 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: Memory Leak with static content
>
>All,
>
>Updates to this issue
>
>-I'm not sure if it's the OS, but I've never seen this happen before on
>other Solaris installs.  What would I look at to determine if it's the
>OS?..
>The way that question is phrased makes it difficult for me to
completely
>understand what you mean. Can you be more specific?
>-It did take up memory until Tomcat would no longer serve pages.  Users
>would try to see their sites and just get a blank white screen until
their
>request timed out.  I haven't let it time go incrementally since I've
>upgraded Tomcat or the jdk, however, I may let it stall out if I get
that
>desperate.
>-I upgraded to 1.4.2 and still the memory increases.
>-Yes, I'm closing all streams in the email class.  Also, this
particular
>code has been used successfully across platforms and across java
servers
>for
>about 3 years now.
>
>Anymore input is greatly appreciated.
>
>-Seth.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Nikolaos Giannopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:04 PM
>Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content
>
>
>> Seth,
>>
>> Have you tried JDK 1.4.2?  1.4.0 has been known to have a memory leak
in
>the
>> StringBuffer implementation w.r.t. re-using StringBuffers but you
mention
>> that your only serving static content so this may not be it.
>>
>> However, I believe that I read that something like 2000 bugs have
been
>fixed
>> in 1.4.2 (if my memory serves me well).  We have have no visible
problems
>> running tomcat 4.1.12/18 stand alone w/ 1.4.2 on Solaris 8 on 4 boxes
(no
>> JSPs - just servlets and static content).
>>
>> Please reply back if this works or does not work for you - we are
looking
>at
>> upgrading our Tomcat instances in the near future.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> --Nikolaos
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:58 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Memory Leak with static content
>> >
>> >
>> > All,
>> >
>> > OS: Sparc-Solaris 9
>> > JDK: 1.4.0_02
>> > Tomcat: 4.1.27
>> >
>> > Problem:
>> > I start tomcat and it takes up about 45MB of RAM.  I wrote a
>> > script to email me every ten minutes the amount of memory it's
>> > taking up.  The results are showing me that it gains about 1MB
>> > every 10 minutes or so (on average).  If I let it go, it will
>> > grow until it runs out of memory.  Right now, I have a script to
>> > restart tomcat after the memory is too high.  This is a bad
>> > solution.  I've looked at a LOT of people's suggestions from
>> > other threads, and I have tried the following:
>> >
>> > -Use jikes
>> > -Set development to false in web.xml
>> > -Increase the heap sizes
>> > -set fork to true in web.xml
>> >
>> > Other Info:
>> > -I'm using Tomcat to feed about 6 sites with static content.  I
>> > have one jsp page that handles all of our forms, and all that
>> > does is capture the  and send it to an email address.  It
>> > is the only code I have anywhere.  This jsp page is not causing
>> > the memory leak.
>> > -I had the same problem with 4.1.17, and was hoping that an
>> > update would help, but it didn't.
>> > -This is an incremental increase, and doesn't seem to have much
>> > to do with traffic patterns or how much I use my one jsp page.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions would be great.
>> > -Seth.
>>
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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-15 Thread Seth Newton
All,

Updates to this issue

-I'm not sure if it's the OS, but I've never seen this happen before on
other Solaris installs.  What would I look at to determine if it's the OS?..
The way that question is phrased makes it difficult for me to completely
understand what you mean. Can you be more specific?
-It did take up memory until Tomcat would no longer serve pages.  Users
would try to see their sites and just get a blank white screen until their
request timed out.  I haven't let it time go incrementally since I've
upgraded Tomcat or the jdk, however, I may let it stall out if I get that
desperate.
-I upgraded to 1.4.2 and still the memory increases.
-Yes, I'm closing all streams in the email class.  Also, this particular
code has been used successfully across platforms and across java servers for
about 3 years now.

Anymore input is greatly appreciated.

-Seth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Nikolaos Giannopoulos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Memory Leak with static content


> Seth,
>
> Have you tried JDK 1.4.2?  1.4.0 has been known to have a memory leak in
the
> StringBuffer implementation w.r.t. re-using StringBuffers but you mention
> that your only serving static content so this may not be it.
>
> However, I believe that I read that something like 2000 bugs have been
fixed
> in 1.4.2 (if my memory serves me well).  We have have no visible problems
> running tomcat 4.1.12/18 stand alone w/ 1.4.2 on Solaris 8 on 4 boxes (no
> JSPs - just servlets and static content).
>
> Please reply back if this works or does not work for you - we are looking
at
> upgrading our Tomcat instances in the near future.
>
> HTH.
>
> --Nikolaos
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Memory Leak with static content
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > OS: Sparc-Solaris 9
> > JDK: 1.4.0_02
> > Tomcat: 4.1.27
> >
> > Problem:
> > I start tomcat and it takes up about 45MB of RAM.  I wrote a
> > script to email me every ten minutes the amount of memory it's
> > taking up.  The results are showing me that it gains about 1MB
> > every 10 minutes or so (on average).  If I let it go, it will
> > grow until it runs out of memory.  Right now, I have a script to
> > restart tomcat after the memory is too high.  This is a bad
> > solution.  I've looked at a LOT of people's suggestions from
> > other threads, and I have tried the following:
> >
> > -Use jikes
> > -Set development to false in web.xml
> > -Increase the heap sizes
> > -set fork to true in web.xml
> >
> > Other Info:
> > -I'm using Tomcat to feed about 6 sites with static content.  I
> > have one jsp page that handles all of our forms, and all that
> > does is capture the  and send it to an email address.  It
> > is the only code I have anywhere.  This jsp page is not causing
> > the memory leak.
> > -I had the same problem with 4.1.17, and was hoping that an
> > update would help, but it didn't.
> > -This is an incremental increase, and doesn't seem to have much
> > to do with traffic patterns or how much I use my one jsp page.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great.
> > -Seth.
>
>
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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-13 Thread Anton Tagunov
Hello Seth!

SN> All,

SN> OS: Sparc-Solaris 9
SN> JDK: 1.4.0_02
SN> Tomcat: 4.1.27

SN> Problem:
SN> I start tomcat and it takes up about 45MB of RAM.  I wrote a script to email me 
every ten minutes the amount of memory it's taking up.  The results are showing me 
that it gains about 1MB every 10
SN> minutes or so (on average).  If I let it go, it will grow until it runs out of 
memory.

You really get an OutOfMemoryException?

I would expect that memory consumption would grow and grow
untill it reaches something near the allowed maximum and then
garbage collection would break in and free some of already
allocated memory. (Of couse it won't give it back to the OS,
but it will be free for processing further requests by Tomcat
itself)

In other words I would expect that memory
consumption would stabilize somewhere near the allowed maximum.

Does this happen? Or do Tomcat threads really die with an
OutOfMemoryException?

Anton


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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-12 Thread James Harman
Seth,

As you mentioned taht the jsp page is not the problem I hope that you 
have looked to make sure that you are closing off any input/ouput 
streams and other resources involved in sending the email right?

James

Seth Newton wrote:

-I'm using Tomcat to feed about 6 sites with static content.  I have one jsp page that handles all of our forms, and all that does is capture the  and send it to an email address.  It is the only code I have anywhere.  This jsp page is not causing the memory leak.

 



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RE: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-12 Thread Nikolaos Giannopoulos
Seth,

Have you tried JDK 1.4.2?  1.4.0 has been known to have a memory leak in the
StringBuffer implementation w.r.t. re-using StringBuffers but you mention
that your only serving static content so this may not be it.

However, I believe that I read that something like 2000 bugs have been fixed
in 1.4.2 (if my memory serves me well).  We have have no visible problems
running tomcat 4.1.12/18 stand alone w/ 1.4.2 on Solaris 8 on 4 boxes (no
JSPs - just servlets and static content).

Please reply back if this works or does not work for you - we are looking at
upgrading our Tomcat instances in the near future.

HTH.

--Nikolaos


> -Original Message-
> From: Seth Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Memory Leak with static content
>
>
> All,
>
> OS: Sparc-Solaris 9
> JDK: 1.4.0_02
> Tomcat: 4.1.27
>
> Problem:
> I start tomcat and it takes up about 45MB of RAM.  I wrote a
> script to email me every ten minutes the amount of memory it's
> taking up.  The results are showing me that it gains about 1MB
> every 10 minutes or so (on average).  If I let it go, it will
> grow until it runs out of memory.  Right now, I have a script to
> restart tomcat after the memory is too high.  This is a bad
> solution.  I've looked at a LOT of people's suggestions from
> other threads, and I have tried the following:
>
> -Use jikes
> -Set development to false in web.xml
> -Increase the heap sizes
> -set fork to true in web.xml
>
> Other Info:
> -I'm using Tomcat to feed about 6 sites with static content.  I
> have one jsp page that handles all of our forms, and all that
> does is capture the  and send it to an email address.  It
> is the only code I have anywhere.  This jsp page is not causing
> the memory leak.
> -I had the same problem with 4.1.17, and was hoping that an
> update would help, but it didn't.
> -This is an incremental increase, and doesn't seem to have much
> to do with traffic patterns or how much I use my one jsp page.
>
> Any suggestions would be great.
> -Seth.



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Re: Memory Leak with static content

2003-09-12 Thread Paul
   you sure it is not the operating system itself.

- Original Message - 
From: "Seth Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: Memory Leak with static content


All,

OS: Sparc-Solaris 9
JDK: 1.4.0_02
Tomcat: 4.1.27

Problem:
I start tomcat and it takes up about 45MB of RAM.  I wrote a script to email
me every ten minutes the amount of memory it's taking up.  The results are
showing me that it gains about 1MB every 10 minutes or so (on average).  If
I let it go, it will grow until it runs out of memory.  Right now, I have a
script to restart tomcat after the memory is too high.  This is a bad
solution.  I've looked at a LOT of people's suggestions from other threads,
and I have tried the following:

-Use jikes
-Set development to false in web.xml
-Increase the heap sizes
-set fork to true in web.xml

Other Info:
-I'm using Tomcat to feed about 6 sites with static content.  I have one jsp
page that handles all of our forms, and all that does is capture the 
and send it to an email address.  It is the only code I have anywhere.  This
jsp page is not causing the memory leak.
-I had the same problem with 4.1.17, and was hoping that an update would
help, but it didn't.
-This is an incremental increase, and doesn't seem to have much to do with
traffic patterns or how much I use my one jsp page.

Any suggestions would be great.
-Seth.



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