RE: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-02-04 Thread Craig

Sorry if I mis-spoke, Java 3D is not included in the core classes of jdk
1.3. It is a separate download and is in beta 1.21 at the moment (an early
access product). You can download a version of the jdk with Java 3d as an
executable file, it will automatically upgrade your current jdk and jre if
you like.  I am not using this version on my server but on a separate
computer.  Beware, it requires a fast computer for the rendering. Not quite
ready for prime time. :0)

Jdk 1.3 is faster then 1.2.  IBM's 1.3 is said to be good as well.

Regards,
Craig

-Original Message-
From: Chris Janicki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 8:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?
Importance: High


Check out this bug before you commit to 1.3 for production: 4293268 (on
Sun's Java Bug Parade)

It's a rare bug on slow apps, but a killer if your JVM is heavily loaded.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/25/01, 3:02:50 PM, "Michael G. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
regarding Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?:


> Hi Craig,
> When did Sun incorporate JAVA 3D into the core classes -- if I read your
post
> correctly?

> regard,

> mike anderson

> Craig O'Brien wrote:

> > Hello forsythe,
> >
> > I recommend downloading the Java 1.3 SDK.  I believe it is final now..?
It
> > outperforms earlier versions and would be the best choice for your
server.
> > If you are downloading at 56k - ...oh well, just do it.  It also
includes
> > all of the latest features (java 2d, java 3d, java media, etc.)  It is
> > stable and is a good performer. You need a good compiler for JSP pages.
> >
> > For applets, you are stuck with 1.1 and earlier if you want the majority
of
> > your visitors to make use of them.  The plug in is a 2-3 meg download
and
it
> > is unreasonable to expect a visitor to download that.  There is also a
bug
> > in Sun's delivery system currently which doesn't allow Internet Explorer
to
> > download the plug in anyway.  You will receive the latest plug in with
your
> > version 1.3.  You can still compile your applets with depreciated
methods.
> > You can install multiple JDKs of different versions on the same machine.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Craig
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:21 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?
> >
> > > Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson
> > this
> > > server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user
download,
> > > right? Right.
> >
> > Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
> > on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.
> >
> > > If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST.
Ok
> > one
> > > more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people
> > have
> > > preferences based off experience.
> >
> > Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.
> >
> > > Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick
while
> > > answering people questions.  Ass.
> >
> > OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.
> >
> > -- Charles
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-02-04 Thread Chris Janicki

Check out this bug before you commit to 1.3 for production: 4293268 (on 
Sun's Java Bug Parade)

It's a rare bug on slow apps, but a killer if your JVM is heavily loaded.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 1/25/01, 3:02:50 PM, "Michael G. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?:


> Hi Craig,
> When did Sun incorporate JAVA 3D into the core classes -- if I read your 
post
> correctly?

> regard,

> mike anderson

> Craig O'Brien wrote:

> > Hello forsythe,
> >
> > I recommend downloading the Java 1.3 SDK.  I believe it is final now..?  
It
> > outperforms earlier versions and would be the best choice for your 
server.
> > If you are downloading at 56k - ...oh well, just do it.  It also includes
> > all of the latest features (java 2d, java 3d, java media, etc.)  It is
> > stable and is a good performer. You need a good compiler for JSP pages.
> >
> > For applets, you are stuck with 1.1 and earlier if you want the majority 
of
> > your visitors to make use of them.  The plug in is a 2-3 meg download and 
it
> > is unreasonable to expect a visitor to download that.  There is also a 
bug
> > in Sun's delivery system currently which doesn't allow Internet Explorer 
to
> > download the plug in anyway.  You will receive the latest plug in with 
your
> > version 1.3.  You can still compile your applets with depreciated 
methods.
> > You can install multiple JDKs of different versions on the same machine.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Craig
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:21 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?
> >
> > > Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson
> > this
> > > server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user 
download,
> > > right? Right.
> >
> > Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
> > on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.
> >
> > > If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok
> > one
> > > more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people
> > have
> > > preferences based off experience.
> >
> > Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.
> >
> > > Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> > > answering people questions.  Ass.
> >
> > OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.
> >
> > -- Charles
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-02-04 Thread Michael G. Anderson

Hi Craig,
When did Sun incorporate JAVA 3D into the core classes -- if I read your post
correctly?

regard,

mike anderson

Craig O'Brien wrote:

> Hello forsythe,
>
> I recommend downloading the Java 1.3 SDK.  I believe it is final now..?  It
> outperforms earlier versions and would be the best choice for your server.
> If you are downloading at 56k - ...oh well, just do it.  It also includes
> all of the latest features (java 2d, java 3d, java media, etc.)  It is
> stable and is a good performer. You need a good compiler for JSP pages.
>
> For applets, you are stuck with 1.1 and earlier if you want the majority of
> your visitors to make use of them.  The plug in is a 2-3 meg download and it
> is unreasonable to expect a visitor to download that.  There is also a bug
> in Sun's delivery system currently which doesn't allow Internet Explorer to
> download the plug in anyway.  You will receive the latest plug in with your
> version 1.3.  You can still compile your applets with depreciated methods.
> You can install multiple JDKs of different versions on the same machine.
>
> Good luck,
> Craig
>
> -Original Message-
> From: forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?
>
> > Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson
> this
> > server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
> > right? Right.
>
> Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
> on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.
>
> > If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok
> one
> > more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people
> have
> > preferences based off experience.
>
> Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.
>
> > Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> > answering people questions.  Ass.
>
> OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.
>
> -- Charles
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


begin:vcard 
n:Anderson;Michael
tel;pager:510-872-1085
tel;cell:510-681-4982
tel;fax:925-681-0173
tel;home:N/A
tel;work:510-644-2966
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
url:http://www.eye-go.com/
org:Eye-go.com;IT
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
title:CTO
adr;quoted-printable:;;2477 Virginia Street=0D=0ASuite 305=0D=0A;Berkeley;CA;94709;USA
fn:Michael G.Anderson
end:vcard



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-25 Thread Michael Wentzel

> I believe there were some sort of "issues" between Sun and Blackdown.

To my best recollection one of the major "issues" was that Blackdown
had gotten so far behind schedule at one point.

> I don't know about the relationship  between IBM and Tomcat. 
> If IBM follows the
> specs for VM elopement as given by Tomcat then the VM good.

You mean the VM specs given by Sun right?


---
Michael Wentzel
Software Developer
http://www.aswethink.com">Software As We Think
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Michael Wentzel

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-25 Thread Michael G. Anderson

Point well taken.

"Blackdown", assumedly, was commissioned by Sun to port Java x.y (where x.y is
the java version) over to Linux.
I assume that this meant the JDK and probably more importantly the JSDK. I
believe there were some sort of "issues" between Sun and Blackdown.
If the Tomcat initiative is supported and sponsored by Sun then the "Sun" VM
will probably be a best fit.
I don't know about the relationship  between IBM and Tomcat. If IBM follows the
specs for VM elopement as given by Tomcat then the VM good.

However all applets are downloaded to the client and executed using the
"Client's" VM.

mike anderson





David Oxley wrote:

> Right.
>
> 1. First of all You can write a java applet that uses java1.1 i.e. the VM
> included with netscape and IE so the user doesn't have to download anything.
> And you can still use 1.3 on the server. You don't need to install another
> vm on the server.
>
> 2. Can you please stop flaming each other. There are people of varying
> degrees of knowledge that use this list. If you flame in a discussion the
> experts won't read on and you won't get any help. Rather than call people
> thick answer the question in a quick way that will allow them to understand
> or don't!! If someone does call you thick, this just does not dignify a
> response.
>
> 3. I wouldn't mind knowing which JVM is fastest on Linux. What is Blackdown
> (I think that's what its called) like. Is it faster than Suns?
>
> Dave.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 January 2001 02:21
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?
>
> > Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson
> this
> > server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
> > right? Right.
>
> Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
> on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.
>
> > If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok
> one
> > more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people
> have
> > preferences based off experience.
>
> Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.
>
> > Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> > answering people questions.  Ass.
>
> OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.
>
> -- Charles
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


begin:vcard 
n:Anderson;Michael
tel;pager:510-872-1085
tel;cell:510-681-4982
tel;fax:925-681-0173
tel;home:N/A
tel;work:510-644-2966
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
url:http://www.eye-go.com/
org:Eye-go.com;IT
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
title:CTO
adr;quoted-printable:;;2477 Virginia Street=0D=0ASuite 305=0D=0A;Berkeley;CA;94709;USA
fn:Michael G.Anderson
end:vcard



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-24 Thread Richard Diaz

> 1. First of all You can write a java applet that uses java1.1 i.e. the VM
> included with netscape and IE so the user doesn't have to download
anything.
> And you can still use 1.3 on the server. You don't need to install another
> vm on the server.

I  do this by installing Java 2 BUT only using Java 1 classes to create
applets? That the idea?

thanks,
Rich


_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-24 Thread Michael Wentzel

> 3. I wouldn't mind knowing which JVM is fastest on Linux. 
> What is Blackdown
> (I think that's what its called) like. Is it faster than Suns?

Last time I check, it's been a while, the blackdown.org jvm
was severely lacking in many departments(IMHO).  Blackdown used
to be the "official" port of the vm to Linux but then IBM
came along.  IBM's jvm has been the best I've used on Linux.
I believe it can be found at www.ibm.com/developer/.  IBM tends
to write great compilers and they are definitely jumping right
onto the Linux caravan for the ride.  The Sun implementation
is pretty standard to their other vm ports.


---
Michael Wentzel
Software Developer
http://www.aswethink.com">Software As We Think
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Michael Wentzel

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-24 Thread David Oxley

Right.

1. First of all You can write a java applet that uses java1.1 i.e. the VM
included with netscape and IE so the user doesn't have to download anything.
And you can still use 1.3 on the server. You don't need to install another
vm on the server.

2. Can you please stop flaming each other. There are people of varying
degrees of knowledge that use this list. If you flame in a discussion the
experts won't read on and you won't get any help. Rather than call people
thick answer the question in a quick way that will allow them to understand
or don't!! If someone does call you thick, this just does not dignify a
response.

3. I wouldn't mind knowing which JVM is fastest on Linux. What is Blackdown
(I think that's what its called) like. Is it faster than Suns?

Dave.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January 2001 02:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?


> Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson
this
> server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
> right? Right.

Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.

> If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok
one
> more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people
have
> preferences based off experience.

Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.

> Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> answering people questions.  Ass.

OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.

-- Charles

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Craig O'Brien

Hello forsythe,

I recommend downloading the Java 1.3 SDK.  I believe it is final now..?  It
outperforms earlier versions and would be the best choice for your server.
If you are downloading at 56k - ...oh well, just do it.  It also includes
all of the latest features (java 2d, java 3d, java media, etc.)  It is
stable and is a good performer. You need a good compiler for JSP pages.

For applets, you are stuck with 1.1 and earlier if you want the majority of
your visitors to make use of them.  The plug in is a 2-3 meg download and it
is unreasonable to expect a visitor to download that.  There is also a bug
in Sun's delivery system currently which doesn't allow Internet Explorer to
download the plug in anyway.  You will receive the latest plug in with your
version 1.3.  You can still compile your applets with depreciated methods.
You can install multiple JDKs of different versions on the same machine.

Good luck,
Craig



-Original Message-
From: forsythe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?


> Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson
this
> server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
> right? Right.

Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.

> If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok
one
> more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people
have
> preferences based off experience.

Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.

> Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> answering people questions.  Ass.

OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.

-- Charles

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Jason Pell

Charles is a jerk...

Jeez.

forsythe wrote:

> > Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson this
> > server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
> > right? Right.
>
> Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
> on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.
>
> > If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok one
> > more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people have
> > preferences based off experience.
>
> Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.
>
> > Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> > answering people questions.  Ass.
>
> OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.
>
> -- Charles
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Jason Pell
Senior Analyst/Programmer - Web Developer
Callista Software Services Pty Ltd
12 Gheringhap St, Geelong Victoria 3220 Australia
Phone: 03 5227 8858 International: +61 3 5227 8858
Fax: 03 5227 8907 International: +61 3 5227 8907
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.dssonline.com.au
Customer Support Hotline: 1800 620 497

"Callista - the brightest solution in university management"

---
Important Notice: The contents of this email transmission,
including attachments, may be privileged and confidential.
Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited.
If you have received this transmission in error, please advise
the sender by return email or telephone immediately and
destroy all versions.
---



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread forsythe

> Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson this
> server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
> right? Right.

Fine.  What has that got to do with Tomcat or the JVM you are installing
on your server?  Nothing.  Right?  Right.

> If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok one
> more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people have
> preferences based off experience.

Best for what.  FOR WHAT?  Ever hear of requirements?  Right?  Right.

> Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> answering people questions.  Ass.

OK.  Tomorrow I will be nicer.  I doubt that you will be any smarter.

-- Charles

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Jason Pell

> Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
> answering people questions.  Ass.

Agreed! :-)

--
Jason Pell
Senior Analyst/Programmer - Web Developer
Callista Software Services Pty Ltd
12 Gheringhap St, Geelong Victoria 3220 Australia
Phone: 03 5227 8858 International: +61 3 5227 8858
Fax: 03 5227 8907 International: +61 3 5227 8907
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.dssonline.com.au
Customer Support Hotline: 1800 620 497

"Callista - the brightest solution in university management"

---
Important Notice: The contents of this email transmission,
including attachments, may be privileged and confidential.
Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited.
If you have received this transmission in error, please advise
the sender by return email or telephone immediately and
destroy all versions.
---



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Filip Hanik

Applets run on the client machine in the client VM. (and this VM is complete
separate from the Tomcat VM that runs on the server)

if you want to control the client VM you can use the Java Plug-In.
take a look at http://java.sun.com/products/plugin

Filip

~
Namaste - I bow to the divine in you.
~
Filip Hanik
Technical Architect
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Diaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?



Heh, didn't think about that.

But what about APPLETS I create?

I'll need to use Java 1 right? Can you install BOTH? I think I'd screw that
up =(

I have Linux 6.0, is that ok with Tomcat 3.2.x ?

thanks!

Rich

> You can use Java 2 with tomcat, because the JVM is running on the server,
the
> user will not even know about it.
>
> But IBM JDK118 works nicely on linux/redhat 6.2 with tomcat 3.2.x.
>
> I am also using j2jdk1.3 from Sun.  Both work fine.
>
> Cheers
> Jason
>
> Richard Diaz wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to install a JVM.
> >
> > Is it OK not to use Java2 with Tomcat (since that requires a 5+ meg
download
> > by the user) ?
> >
> > I am also Planning on using Expresso Tools.
> >
> > Which JVM works best with Apache & Tomcat? Sun? IBM?
> >
> > thanks
> > Rich
> >
> > _
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Jason Pell
> Senior Analyst/Programmer - Web Developer
> Callista Software Services Pty Ltd
> 12 Gheringhap St, Geelong Victoria 3220 Australia
> Phone: 03 5227 8858 International: +61 3 5227 8858
> Fax: 03 5227 8907 International: +61 3 5227 8907
> E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.dssonline.com.au
> Customer Support Hotline: 1800 620 497
>
> "Callista - the brightest solution in university management"
>
> ---
> Important Notice: The contents of this email transmission,
> including attachments, may be privileged and confidential.
> Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited.
> If you have received this transmission in error, please advise
> the sender by return email or telephone immediately and
> destroy all versions.
> ---
>
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Richard Diaz

> Tomcat 3.x will run with Java 1.1.x.
>
> > (since that requires a 5+ meg download by the user) ?
>
> Um... do you understand what Tomcat is?  What is does?  How it works?
Users
> don't download anything.

Yes I do. I installed Tomcat 5 months ago... I made a new server so here I
am again basically getting an update.

Also I will also have APPLETS running in addition to servlets & JSPson this
server... So if I create a JAVA2 APPLET that WILL require a user download,
right? Right.

> > Which JVM works best with Apache & Tomcat? Sun? IBM?
>
> IT DOESN'T MATTER.  IT'S JAVA.  THAT'S THE POINT.

If you read carefully I asked "Which jvm works BEST" The Best. BEST. Ok one
more time " THE BEST" I Tomcat supports ALL JVMs, I'm asking if people have
preferences based off experience.

> Don't you think you should learn a little more before posting questions to
the
> rest of the world?

Hey 'Charles' I think you should try to learn how not to be a prick while
answering people questions.  Ass.




_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Richard Diaz


Heh, didn't think about that.

But what about APPLETS I create?

I'll need to use Java 1 right? Can you install BOTH? I think I'd screw that
up =(

I have Linux 6.0, is that ok with Tomcat 3.2.x ?

thanks!

Rich

> You can use Java 2 with tomcat, because the JVM is running on the server,
the
> user will not even know about it.
>
> But IBM JDK118 works nicely on linux/redhat 6.2 with tomcat 3.2.x.
>
> I am also using j2jdk1.3 from Sun.  Both work fine.
>
> Cheers
> Jason
>
> Richard Diaz wrote:
>
> > I'm getting ready to install a JVM.
> >
> > Is it OK not to use Java2 with Tomcat (since that requires a 5+ meg
download
> > by the user) ?
> >
> > I am also Planning on using Expresso Tools.
> >
> > Which JVM works best with Apache & Tomcat? Sun? IBM?
> >
> > thanks
> > Rich
> >
> > _
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Jason Pell
> Senior Analyst/Programmer - Web Developer
> Callista Software Services Pty Ltd
> 12 Gheringhap St, Geelong Victoria 3220 Australia
> Phone: 03 5227 8858 International: +61 3 5227 8858
> Fax: 03 5227 8907 International: +61 3 5227 8907
> E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.dssonline.com.au
> Customer Support Hotline: 1800 620 497
>
> "Callista - the brightest solution in university management"
>
> ---
> Important Notice: The contents of this email transmission,
> including attachments, may be privileged and confidential.
> Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited.
> If you have received this transmission in error, please advise
> the sender by return email or telephone immediately and
> destroy all versions.
> ---
>
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Charles Forsythe

Quoting Richard Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is it OK not to use Java2 with Tomcat

Tomcat 3.x will run with Java 1.1.x.

> (since that requires a 5+ meg download by the user) ?

Um... do you understand what Tomcat is?  What is does?  How it works?  Users 
don't download anything.

> I am also Planning on using Expresso Tools.

Good for you.  I use emacs.  It works with all the JVMs equally well.

> Which JVM works best with Apache & Tomcat? Sun? IBM?

IT DOESN'T MATTER.  IT'S JAVA.  THAT'S THE POINT.

Don't you think you should learn a little more before posting questions to the 
rest of the world?

-- Charles

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Jason Pell

You can use Java 2 with tomcat, because the JVM is running on the server, the
user will not even know about it.

But IBM JDK118 works nicely on linux/redhat 6.2 with tomcat 3.2.x.

I am also using j2jdk1.3 from Sun.  Both work fine.

Cheers
Jason

Richard Diaz wrote:

> I'm getting ready to install a JVM.
>
> Is it OK not to use Java2 with Tomcat (since that requires a 5+ meg download
> by the user) ?
>
> I am also Planning on using Expresso Tools.
>
> Which JVM works best with Apache & Tomcat? Sun? IBM?
>
> thanks
> Rich
>
> _
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Jason Pell
Senior Analyst/Programmer - Web Developer
Callista Software Services Pty Ltd
12 Gheringhap St, Geelong Victoria 3220 Australia
Phone: 03 5227 8858 International: +61 3 5227 8858
Fax: 03 5227 8907 International: +61 3 5227 8907
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.dssonline.com.au
Customer Support Hotline: 1800 620 497

"Callista - the brightest solution in university management"

---
Important Notice: The contents of this email transmission,
including attachments, may be privileged and confidential.
Any unauthorised use of the contents is expressly prohibited.
If you have received this transmission in error, please advise
the sender by return email or telephone immediately and
destroy all versions.
---



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Which JVM for Tomcat?

2001-01-23 Thread Richard Diaz

I'm getting ready to install a JVM.

Is it OK not to use Java2 with Tomcat (since that requires a 5+ meg download
by the user) ?

I am also Planning on using Expresso Tools.

Which JVM works best with Apache & Tomcat? Sun? IBM?

thanks
Rich


_
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]