[Toolserver-l] Redirects for toolserver.org moved to WMF
Hi all, two days ago we switched the DNS record so that the redirects from toolserver.org to wmflabs.org are now handled by WMF. This means: You can no longer contact me/WMDE or Marlen for updating any redirects. Please check if everything's working correctly. Coren, am I right in assuming that people contact you directly if there are any changes needed? Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Call for help to Merlbot's Death Anomalies Table
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! As you might know, Merl's bot framework Merlbot is one of the last few projects left on the Toolserver. Merl put a lot of work into modifications and rewriting code to be able to run it in Tool Labs. He is running out of time as database replication will stop on Oct 5th. Any volunteers to support him in finishing before that deadline? What you could do is work on a part of Merlbot called Death Anomalies Table [1]. It generates daily probably dead reports in 15 Wikipedias to point to articles about people marked dead in a different language. The code of the death anomalies table [1] consists of nine bash scripts in which SQL queries have to be adapted for Tool Labs. If you are prepared to dive into SQL, please contact Merl [2] as soon as possible. Cheers, Silke [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Death_anomalies_table [2] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Merl - -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUIpTZAAoJEHodr38uMi5iNtQIAOfrGnM7d2z3moO9dfNpFLbL iCByYINeRHf7wC5WKYhyffFeR4DfXjJehtB+6bx21eT1A1n5TcNRigNMhworhzFr 6MKWg1RTwrjnCIsQJg2LbkQjmjTJory5LIfdkMiQZpGoRAlG7SwHR/IJg1J5uEOf GrXo6yhLMhKI+sW0xWGlXfIyzTNRXB81GiSlxDPdM1qjWMGES5yKZ4xHFr8qRhx4 9S9SiIkoHZxvd+cUnwSsRQIWj+qpZU/2XvNDDmxAFjbe7Q/tVewH2dcJsSb0xyZm uHN3fRVG928TCYklPxHLNv4vBW7EarIPvp28nsQwQIgkLixXzI6Ib4/ilKxZtIc= =t3MR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] New deadline: Get your data off the Toolserver until Sept 30th!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! I had announced that August 31st would be the deadline for retrieving backups from the toolserver. As you were right in telling me, hey, that's in the middle of everybody's vacation, the stuff is still there. But: Come and get your backups before the end of September! Once the toolserver is physically decommissioned, the data will be deleted! Gone. Forever. And as stated before: If you are interested in migrating, maintaining, resurrecting someone else's tools, please contact that person and ask first! If you are contacted by others for you own code, I strongly encourage you to *free the knowledge* and let them work on it. (Yes, sometimes old work looks embarrassing nowadays, but it can always help others to figure things out, to get ideas, to improve tools. So for the greater good[TM] please free it.) Thanks and cheers, Silke - -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUEsN2AAoJEHodr38uMi5i92oIAIkwis8ztO8cT+2Cm8GosPzh NDAAbrBUMK1Aon/Ad1kakXL41R/rz/zQ7J3f2evnsQsSgT3Eo4ek8ppOK5nxI6sO ElaoiTSxet2YbJp0pap13rJsoeuzwnAg6ruq8+t7PxssPQPZ6fsNqrVvjnaQ43OV ZyH11wBy5dyI4CmgD7huyuJGa08iVnEpR4GUKuWsWpIbhpa/v8exAa5QoEqNvJWP azRdts8XAYtNMMmf5Xt3pzlZwxjWN/586nRofeKNqNxhdLqPgDc4hsNxx7tqHLOf efUY5OnXtbeuaR7O++Cf/3zq6ObUqtDrD3aXp28SoFuNH/VP9ECcyC5WKTRIHzw= =5sOk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Reminder: Get your data off the Toolserver until Aug 31st!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey ho! Just a little reminder: In September we will *delete* what is left on Toolserver! Write to ts-adm...@toolserver.org to request your backup before August 31st. If you are interested in migrating, maintaining, resurrecting someone else's tools, please contact that person and ask first! If you are contacted by others for you own code, I strongly encourage you to *free the knowledge* and let them work on it. (Yes, sometimes old work looks embarrassing nowadays, but it can always help others to figure things out, to get ideas, to improve tools. So for the greater good[TM] please free it.) Also: It turns out that until now there are people in this wikiverse who haven't noticed their Toolserver accounts are about to vanish forever. So if you happen to talk to others, please spread the word! Thanks and cheers, Silke - -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT11jgAAoJEHodr38uMi5i1t0H/3YRgAFeCb5JnoIn3RW1ymZ2 r6KI/5Jy5Cyly8TqbxpWr0r0t75foVkbuDcr8EMBpckLRsOW9Jsjp7sQFTssjh4i Lp5iuVK2uSLt2pNJT2yJ9fpUz8FZSRICJSodzBRZFNl/f4bcChSKEV0O9w0dFm7o 2tQzSBZasZMh/6vHRfpAdvtrPiIzAyoYO0kAhYoQ0Gan5gr3dqyk/usi5ea+D6Rg HQIDGBxV5BkMKKIJLzxues+sVC+PUSym8+ZC29ngK01HGhqdW+V/D7Hnbe/U7arU 5ryIUaVzVDzgsef/SMl6An9viCI8Q97L3dGsWfYrq7w+Hy4UEwFqDENbhBfqPFo= =nB4X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Missing Toolserver features? Tell us!
Dear tool devs! Rumour has it that quite a few of you have problems to run their tools in Tool Labs because of unresolved issues in Bugzilla / missing features. If you are among them, please complain loudly and point me to the bugzilla link! If they get fixed, please test them for your tools as soon as possible. Also, it is very helpful to make your bugzilla entry block one of the following three tracking bugs: * 58791 Missing Toolserver features in Tools [1] * 58788 Toolserver migration to Tools [2] * 58797 OSM on Labs [3] Cheers, Silke [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58791 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58788 [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58797 -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Collection of issues after Toolserver shutdown
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, there we are on the day after account expiration. A few words on what is going to happen to the code left on Toolserver. First of all THANK YOU for migrating so many tools!!! It's awesome that so many of you made this extra effort and I know that for many this has been / still is very demanding and time-consuming! I would also like to thank all those among you who worked on the migration process itself, who gave me information, explanations and ideas, who reminded me of stuff or just *did* useful stuff. This has been very helpful for me as you know much more about the Toolserver and its integration into the Wikiverse than I do. Nosy, Mette and Coren still have a lot of work ahead, too, but thanks a lot to you as well, for helping all the users during migration and for having issues on the radar! Finally, thank you again, DaB., for the years of commitment you put into the Toolserver and its community. And thanks to River whom I never met but who left structures other admins could deal with. What's next? To those who haven't migrated: Quite a lot of you can find your tools on this list already: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Collection_of_issues_after_Toolserver_shutdown#This_is_the_tool_I_miss_most_.2F_Dieses_Tool_fehlt_mir_am_meisten About migrating now: You can still get your backups from ts-adm...@toolserver.org and migrate. There are some volunteer helpers around on that page (lower part) so if you need support, ask them. Once you've created a tool in Tool Labs and uploaded your files, you can add other maintainers with a click. About other people's files: Valhallasw, you asked if someone could get all the backups and archive them. The problem are the private files in there (esp. in the home directories). Nobody can sit down and sort the files of hundreds of tools and decide which ones to give to others. This is why we hand over backups to the owners only. The contents of your public_html folders were accessible until yesterday. If they are under a free license (and this has to be checked in detail, too), we strongly recommend to contact the authors about reusing the code because some might not be completely comfortable with others looking at their code in detail. I would like to encourage all of you to let other interested people work on your code. It's a great opportunity to learn from how others deal with it / from what they make out of it. So, if you are contacted by others, it would be cool if you freed the knowledge! If others turn to us / the ts-admins and request access to your public_html folders and it's free software, we will contact you if possible. If we don't hear from you then, we will hand it over, assuming that this is why you put it under a free license. About deletion of data: Backups are kept until August 31st 2014! Once Toolserver will be physically decommissioned in Haarlem, we'll have to purge all hard disks. So please come and get your backups or other people's code you want to work on *before August 31st*! Cheers, Silke - -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTspyrAAoJEHodr38uMi5iALYH/1si+43oJvBZ3hKF7Nn15lA/ xKv7wk37szcNIpylhcEeofIah/ySI0WG+UO8Cr1uhcUDryHsGnQvHvfks80pVvvZ tVXmONluKDIARosGeoV7U/GJ/ogCwI4JcIIhm+mM5ZYc9zZQevvdDqXu4VroK8ou ISNNU00LIq1p5hqw25w6yMV1n3vFsprtUIKIbaqg6TdgcC6NTfNYdip46tSfTIF6 76MDDdciG1pALSK2c4cupTqRcwMzGadE6o9DOD8Z7jJWf1rHGzgAPj1wsoVhehZX fKP4PMzKXWfqZsyUl1zGAQkub5zImCgTy0SDtpw8pu+nTsFPPxsLF35VZOC7V20= =I4Bt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] 403 User account expired hit list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, On 01.07.2014 16:28, Daniel Schwen wrote: Any chance we can get shell access back to place redirects? Was it not possible to deactivate tools (i.e. cron jobs, PHP, any HTTP, except redirects, etc.) and leave shell access open? Sorry, no chance. Please add missing redirects to the list [1] or send them to ts-adm...@toolserver.org. Best, Silke [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Collection_of_issues_after_Toolserver_shutdown#This_tool_is_lacking_a_proper_redirect_to_its_new_location_.2F_Bei_diesem_Tool_stimmt_etwas_mit_der_Weiterleitung_nicht - -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTss/YAAoJEHodr38uMi5iOQMIAKg2wb6y/IICgw1EceBGfnPp PZpV7yEvKu9WWHqLS4RMWwAAXjddu9TJIYtbEphJi2pb9VEPhSHdaH9NGTlQ3YNY s/0J2+XGTMU/7pZH8MI2iblUoqmPVNF71/2++0d3Lg/rfGw/RTZMOXuwfqBD4/ON R6OMLvLdO56sgSzvoYVtPL+tJsvgwJ84/0kCtG5T70K+PwIJAuvKS56nx6MV6+7j p0uFuzdk1C8Nu4vhRTu4SQ16/jvcbh85F/F053EnrhByeZiCKTO0B+hOc0yn2enl Ot+sC4/W6Xv7ShwJInSbNOJOdQ7ke9Fn0KLWWxpGmf+EMZB8goJ0WnlmZgR7U30= =/ycB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Reminder: IRC office hour tomorrow June 11th, 5 p.m. UTC
Hi all, you are invited you to join our IRC office hour on migrating from the Toolserver to Tool Labs. If you have questions take this opportunity to ask before Toolserver shutdown! If you can't attend, you can, as always, send me your questions beforehand. See you tomorrow! #wikimedia-office Wednesday, June 11th, 5 p.m. UTC. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Reminder: Tools only on Tool Labs from July 1
Hi everyone, please spread this reminder! About one year ago, we, Wikimedia Deutschland e. V., announced June 30th as the deadline of the Toolserver migration (Roadmap at [1]). This deadline is approaching. The Toolserver will stop working on June 30th. What will happen afterwards? Background information The Toolserver is a community based infrastructure that hosts software supporting Wikipedia and its sister projects. Over the years many active volunteers have developed helpful and great software tools that are running on several Wikimedia projects. The Toolserver is operated by Wikimedia Deutschland with assistance from the Wikimedia Foundation and several chapters. For many reasons, the Toolserver will be discontinued and replaced by Tool Labs [2], a platform operated by the Wikimedia Foundation. Please see the reasons at [3]. For more than one year Wikimedia Deutschland has been coordinating the migration of software tools from Toolserver to Tool Labs. What editors should know The toolserver is a community-driven project. The tools shall be migrated by the developers resp. maintainers themselves. Many of them have already migrated their tools or have indicated that they will do so before the end of this month. We have a special agreement with the OpenStreetMap projects and with the developer of Merlbot [4] to ensure these tools don’t stop working. All other tools will stop working by July 1st. What editors can do On Tool Labs [2], you can look up if the tools that you use and need have already moved there. Talk to the developers of your favourite tools: It is important to let them know how much you appreciate their tools and that you need them to do your work. Contact us if you don’t know who these developers are or if you have any questions or if you want us to forward wishes or requests to tool developers. Contact information is given at the end of this text. Information for tool developers If you are still facing the migration of your tools, please keep in mind that lots of people use your tools. They are a great support for their daily work and will be missed when they fail. Please take the time to migrate them or poke us: WMDE can still support you during migration - what we can’t do is maintain abandoned tools in the long run. From July 1st on, the toolserver admins will still hand you over your backups upon request and create redirects to Tool Labs for you. You won’t be able to log in to the toolserver anymore though. If anyone wants to have and reuse other people’s code, we recommend to seek approval from them directly, even if from a legal point of view there is no problem. Don’t hesitate to talk to us if you need a contact person. Here is a collection of the relevant links for you again: Tool Labs: http://tools.wmflabs.org Tool Labs help pages: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help How to create redirects to Tool Labs: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/.htaccess#.htaccess Magnus Manske’s migration manual: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Migrating_from_toolserver Scripts to clean up your toolserver account]] after migration: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Main_Page Mailing list Labs-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l IRC channel #wikimedia-labs: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-labs Marc-André Pelletier (Coren) and Andrew Bogott (andrewbogott) are the WMF Tool Labs ops. Petr Bena (petan) and Tim Landscheidt (scfc_de) are voluntary Tool Labs admins. We invite you to join our IRC office hour in #wikimedia-office on Wednesday, June 11th, at 5 p.m. UTC. Contact: The migration is coordinated by Silke Meyer (WMDE). Birgit Müller supports her in communications. The two toolserver admins Marlen Caemmerer und Alexander Mette are glad to help you with advice. Marc-André Pelletier can answer all questions concerning Tool Labs. Contact us at Silke: silke.me...@wikimedia.de, Talk page at [5], IRC: Silke_WMDE Birgit: birgit.muel...@wikimedia.de, Talk page at [6], IRC: Birgit_WMDE We hope that the transition will happen as smoothly as possible! Best, Silke [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en [2] http://tools.wmflabs.org [3] https://toolserver.org/ [4] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:MerlBot [5] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Silke_WMDE [6] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Birgit_Müller_(WMDE) -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Toolserver-l] fisheye.toolserver.org old certificate
Hello Nosy and Mette! Same for wiki.toolserver.org. Thanks for your help! ;) Cheers, Silke 2014-05-29 16:47 GMT+02:00 Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl: Could someone please put the new certificate on https://fisheye.toolserver.org too? It still uses the old (expired) certificate for *.toolserver.org Thank you, Maarten ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] DEPRECATED: tools.wikimedia.de - Get rid of it!
Hi again, Indeed. Assuming WMDE isn't planning on not having any web servers, their existing web server for wikimedia.de can keep redirecting tools.wikimedia.de to toolserver.org. No changes necessary. So okay, not making any change to the DNS entry is completely okay for me. WMF ops then have to decide about the SSL certificate question. If WMDE really wants to remove them, they could point that subdomain to WMF servers and have WMF do the redirect and simply don't provide an SSL certificate. E.g. WMF would use a self-signed certificate or an invalid one like the one for wikipedia.org, WMF does this all the time for old or unused domains: wikipedia.com * https://www.wikipedia.com/ wikimediacommons.org * https://wikimediacommons.org/ And if we really really want, one could purchase a separate certificate for just tools.wikimedia.org (so that the wildcard one isn't needed) and transfer only that to WMF. For me, it is important that I don't have to deal with that domain any longer. Simply keeping the CNAME causes on work at all. If you at WMF want to handle the certificate question in the future, you can go ahead. At the Hackathon, I understood that Coren is no fan of such a solution though. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] DEPRECATED: tools.wikimedia.de - Get rid of it!
Hi! 2014-05-10 22:34 GMT+02:00 seth email_metawiki_...@wg-karlsruhe.de: gudn tach! (Hi!) On 09.05.2014 16:44, Merlijn van Deen wrote: What is the problem with just keeping a tools.wikimedia.de/* - toolserver.org/* redirect? It's a trivial redirect, and users will then automatically be redirected from toolserver.org to their destination. This is a very legitimate question and I would appreciate a (public) answer to this for the sake of transparency. There we go: It is not a trivial redirect: Wikimedia Deutschland will obviously not give the wildcard SSL certificate for *.wikimedia.de to WMF (and WMF would not want to have it). This would mean we would have to completely delegate that subdomain to WMF and guarantee that it stays like that forever. This is hard to guarantee and it is also misleading to delegate a .de subdomain to the Foundation. This is why I'm asking tool developers to replace this link in their tools. (Yes, it is used inside older tools, not just somewhere in this internet.) Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Please update the toolserver links in Gadgets
Hi! Currently, some gadgets still have links pointing to the toolserver. As they aren't really numerous, please help update them to point to Tool Labs to avoid ugliness. (A simple find replace doesn't always work, please test you changes.) Find the list for some wikis like so: enwp: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearchprofile=advancedsearch=toolserverfulltext=Searchns8=1profile=advanced dewp: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearchprofile=advancedsearch=toolserverfulltext=Searchns8=1profile=advanced commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearchprofile=advancedsearch=toolserverfulltext=Searchns8=1profile=advanced On commons, there are quite some more than in the Wikipedias. Thanks for your help! Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] DEPRECATED: tools.wikimedia.de - Get rid of it!
Dear tool maintainers! The domain tools.wikimedia.de, aliasing toolserver.org, has been deprecated for a very long time. It is legacy from the past and we kept it for your convenience so you wouldn't have to modify any tool. With the toolserver redirects to Tool Labs things are getting complicated enough without this old stuff. If you have very old tools and you are still using tools.wikimedia.de, please get rid of that domain! After the toolserver's shutdown, this redirect will on longer work. Thanks for your understanding! Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Scholarships for Zurich Hackathon
Hi all! From 9th to 11th of May there will be a MediaWiki hackathon in Zurich [1]. Scholarships are available for this and some of them are given out by Wikimedia Germany for MediaWiki developers who are from Germany or work on Wikidata or the migration of tools from Toolserver to Tool Labs. You can apply for a scholarship directly via the registration form for the hackathon [2]. The registration deadline is 16th of March 2014. I’m looking forward to seeing many of you there to work on the migration. Best Silke [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCrich_Hackathon_2014 [2] https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1nlrQ7cox36xaNK1u9iKP-thogY5TVrilOGJR79DqQ9A/viewform -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Reminder: Today's IRC office hour on migration: Wed Feb 19th at 6 p.m. UTC
Hi all! Just a little reminder for today's office hour! See you later! Silke On 05.02.2014 16:02, Silke Meyer wrote: Hi there! As I found the last IRC office hour [1] quite productive, you are all invited to join the next one! Topic obviously: Migration from the Toolserver to Tool Labs When: Wednesday February 19th Start: 6 p.m. UTC End: 7:30 p.m. UTC (to have a bit more time than last time) Where: #wikimedia-office Hope to see you there. Again: If you can't attend you can send your questions to me beforehand. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2014-01-23 -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrau!tstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Next IRC office hour on migration: Wed Feb 19th at 6 p.m. UTC
Hi there! As I found the last IRC office hour [1] quite productive, you are all invited to join the next one! Topic obviously: Migration from the Toolserver to Tool Labs When: Wednesday February 19th Start: 6 p.m. UTC End: 7:30 p.m. UTC (to have a bit more time than last time) Where: #wikimedia-office Hope to see you there. Again: If you can't attend you can send your questions to me beforehand. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2014-01-23 -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Do the problems persist?
Hi all, Mette is trying to figure out if the problems persist. Do they? I can acces the tools via web again, I think since the moment nosy rebootet something. ssh on willow and from there to nightshade / yarrow is working again. Can we call this issue closed or do you still experience problems? Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Reminder: Jan 23rd Office hour: Migration from Toolserver to Tool Labs
Hello! Just a little reminder... Dear all! As promised in December, I scheduled an IRC office hour to discuss the status of migration from the Toolserver to Tool Labs. Let's collect all to dos, all questions or/and open tickets that are important to you. When? Thursday, Jan 23rd 2014, from 18:00 to 19:00 *UTC* Where? #wikimedia-office on freenode Who? You ;) Sumana Harihareswara (WMF) Marc-Andre Pelletier aka Coren (WMF / Tool Labs) Tomasz Finc and Alexandros Kosiaris (WMF / looking into the OSM setup) me The discussion will be logged. If you cannot attend just send me your questions beforehand! See you soon, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] JIRA migration to bugzilla
Hi Merlijn, hi Tim, how cool! Thanks for your work! I saw that Tim went through a whole lot of tickets in Jira. I poked Nosy, DaB. and Mette, if one of them could react upon the open ssh key requests. However, I don't know how often they are online these days. Please understand if it takes a moment. Best, Silke 2013/12/21 Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl: Hello all, Today, I hacked together a JIRA migration tool. If you want your bugs migrated please do the following two things: 1) Under Administration, your project, People, add 'Bugzilla Bug Exporter (valhallasw)' to 'Administrators' and click 'Update'. Otherwise, the bot cannot close the bug. 2) File a bug in bugzilla using the following link: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimediacomponent=Bugzillacc=valhall...@arctus.nl,m...@uberbox.orgblocked=58821comment=Which%20JIRA%20project%20do%20you%20want%20to%20convert%3F%20(link)%0A%0AWhich%20component%20name%20(under%20%27Tool%20Labs%20Tools%27)%20do%20you%20want%3F%0A%0ADid%20you%20add%20%27Bugzilla%20Bot%20Importer%20(valhallasw)%27%20to%20the%20administrators%20in%20your%20JIRA%20project%3F 3) Your bugs will be migrated for you! See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/58820 for an example of what the converted bug looks like. Merlijn ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Reminder: Account expiry and migration
Hi all! Just a little reminder: Your toolserver accounts will expire on January 6th, 2014. You can renew it with acctrenew as usual. If you had an expired account and you want to come back and collect your data: Your account has been reactivated until that date. You can login to nightshade and use the script byebye to collect your stuff. It will create a new directory inside your home directory called FarewellBundle. This directory contains tarballs of almost everything you had on the toolserver. The only thing you have to take care of separately is your stuff in /mnt/user-store. Please download the data you don't need on the toolserver any longer! If you don't need your account any longer you can delete it using the script burnbridges. It will delete everything but your ~/public_html/.htaccess files in case you have a redirect to Tool Labs. For us, it would be very helpful if you deleted you data yourselves. If you find some time before January 6th, please consider migrating your tools to Tool Labs [1][2], as the toolserver will be discontinued in mid 2014. If you hit barriers that prevent you from migrating, please create bugs in Bugzilla [3]! We can meet in an IRC office hour in January to discuss them. The office hour will be announced separately at the beginning of January. Best, Silke [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/ [2] Tool Labs Help: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia%20Labscomponent=tools -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] Replication of dewiki temporarily broken
Hi all, it might a be noob question, but can the broken replications of dewiki in Labs and on the Toolserver have the same cause? Wondering, Silke 2013/11/29 Christian Thiele ap...@apper.de: Hi, Am 29.11.2013, 15:23 Uhr, schrieb Robin Krahl m...@robin-krahl.de: unfortunately it seems like there are still some missing revisions: it seems, that a lot of revisions are missing, not only some. Special:Statistics on de.wikipedia says: 130,605,066 revisions. SELECT count(*) FROM revision at tool labs is 41,143,404 - so two thirds of all revisions for dewiki are missing at the moment. Greets, apper ___ Labs-l mailing list lab...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] FYI: Toolserver account expiry in early January
Hi! The toolserver will run until June 30th 2014. Nothing changed about this date. As announced to all toolserver user accounts today, all accounts will expire in January 2014. They can be renewed as usual. The two toolserver admins Marlen Caemmerer and Alexander Mette provided two scripts which will help you to pack and download your data and delete them afterwards. The reasons for my decision to have the accounts expire: First of all, I would like to remind everyone to think about their tools' migration early and get help if needed. Second, we are dealing the data of a few hundred expired accounts already. The owners shall have the chance to re-login and collect their data. They have been reactivated and will expire in January, too. Third, I would like to encourage all those who already moved over to Tool Labs to download and then their stuff themselves. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Need Tool Labs migration support?
Hi Magnus! Also, of course I prefer people moving their own tools! Just in the important-tool-will-die-with-toolserver scenario... This question is being discussed in our office these days. I'll keep the list updated. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Need Tool Labs migration support?
Hi again, * Make copies of the source of those tools publicly available (they should all be open source, but some directories are not accessibly for other users from shell IIRC) * Keep a Foundation-readable snapshot of the toolserver home directories, user-store, DB dumps etc. I found this this suggestion rather surprising and I'd like to discuss it with the TS admins first. Not sure if we can just do that. I'll get back to you. ok, I consulted Nosy, DaB. and Mette about this proposal and we will not make the home directories accessible to others. They can contain all sorts of private data, user names, e-mail addresses, ssh keys, who knows what else - maybe even gpg keys, so handing the complete package over is no option. I wouldn't want to intrude into the people's stuff. And we'd get in trouble with the law here, as the German data protection act is binding for us. It's the slower way to contact all maintainers (which will happen repeatedly) but hey, we've got plenty of time left. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Need Tool Labs migration support?
Hi Magnus and all! * Make copies of the source of those tools publicly available (they should all be open source, but some directories are not accessibly for other users from shell IIRC) * Keep a Foundation-readable snapshot of the toolserver home directories, user-store, DB dumps etc. I found this this suggestion rather surprising and I'd like to discuss it with the TS admins first. Not sure if we can just do that. I'll get back to you. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver wiki
Hi MZMcBride and all, as far as I know, TS wiki has not been discussed. Thanks for bringing it up! I suppose keeping content means quite some triage. We don't need information specific to the toolserver on wikitech, but everybody should indeed migrate their tools' documentation from tswiki to wikitech.wikimedia.org as part of the migration process. A good place is under your userspace on wikitech. MZMcBride, did you have other content in mind than singular tools' docs? Cheers, Silke 2013/9/28 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com Hi. Do we have plans for the Toolserver wiki (https://wiki.toolserver.org/)? There's some very good content in/on the wiki that would be nice to move to either wikitech.wikimedia.org or mediawiki.org, I think. Has this been discussed anywhere? Does anyone have any thoughts about this? MZMcBride ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Can't maintain all your tools in the long run? Get more people in!
Hi all! When it comes to the question of migrating tools to Tool Labs, some of you might notice that you don't have the amount of time needed for maintenance that you had earlier. WMDE offered to help you with the actual migration but we can't maintain abandoned tools in the long run. For migration support, contact me! Note that in Tool Labs *every* tool is a multi-maintainer project! This shall make it easier for you to bring others in. On the toolserver you can add a ticket in Jira to request for your project to become an MMP, so others can join you before migration and help with it. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Maintainer(s) wanted: Contribs, new pages and others
Erwin85 is looking for people to maintain his very popular tools [1] (as he wrote on [2]). They are currently running on the toolserver. If you are looking for a project to help with, please have a look at the tools. If you are interested in helping to maintain one or a few of them, here are your next steps: * Contact Erwin85. ;) * Ask in Jira [3] to have the tool you want to work on transformed into a multi-maintainer project and have yourself added to it. * Migrate them to Tool Labs. (WMDE can help here, if you want. Contact me!) * Take over responsibility for long term maintenance of one or several of the tools. Cheers, Silke [1] https://toolserver.org/~erwin85/ [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Erwin#Tool_Labs [3] https://jira.toolserver.org -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] Maintainer(s) wanted: Contribs, new pages and others
Magnus, I don't know what to say - you're amazing! :) 2013/9/27 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com It has begun: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Erwin#Labs_port Anyone else interested, please help me porting/maintaining; grunt work is done ;-) On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.dewrote: Erwin85 is looking for people to maintain his very popular tools [1] (as he wrote on [2]). They are currently running on the toolserver. If you are looking for a project to help with, please have a look at the tools. If you are interested in helping to maintain one or a few of them, here are your next steps: * Contact Erwin85. ;) * Ask in Jira [3] to have the tool you want to work on transformed into a multi-maintainer project and have yourself added to it. * Migrate them to Tool Labs. (WMDE can help here, if you want. Contact me!) * Take over responsibility for long term maintenance of one or several of the tools. Cheers, Silke [1] https://toolserver.org/~erwin85/ [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Erwin#Tool_Labs [3] https://jira.toolserver.org -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- undefined ___ Labs-l mailing list lab...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Hem hem... PLEASE let's move forward! From TS towards Labs (was: Re: TS and/vs. Labs)
Hi! I think that everybody understands that with the migration we ask you volunteers a lot, especially if your tools can't just move as they are: You have been doing this extra work as a hobby for *years* which I have a lot of respect and admiration for. Still, I am reluctant to repeat discussions we had before because the situation hasn't changed: OSI-approved licenses only. I take the wording exceptions are possible but unlikely as no exceptions until I hear of one, ok? ;) For non-libre projects I would like to come back to what Ryan wrote: Or people are free to move them to infrastructure that isn't funded by the donations to a movement that has Open Content as one of the five pillars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_free_content. The tools and bots that keep this content alive and free are in my opinion an extension of that pillar. I'm more than happy to recommend a number of cloud services and am more than willing to give advice on how to configure and run tools and bots from those services. It's even possible to reuse the work we're doing in the tools project, or in the Wikimedia infrastructure via our puppet repository since our infrastructure is Open Source. Ryan, Luis, could you write a bit more about whether it would be ok (technically and legally) to run database queries in Tool Labs and send them to an external server where a proprietary tool runs? Is that a no go? An exception? Is it totally fine? Concerning the support offer: As we (as in WMDE) announced to accept support requests for migration until September 30th 2013, I take it there is not that much need of it: So far, my colleague Johannes is in touch with two projects only (Merlissimo among them). If I am wrong, maintainers, please contact me in the weeks to come! Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Investigation on migrating Jira to Bugzilla - any volunteers around?
Hi all! Today WMFs bug wrangler Andre Klapper visited our office and gave a QA session about Bugzilla. Together with Daniel Kinzler, we discussed the question if it's possible to migrate your tickets from Jira to Bugzilla. (For all tools, that would be about 1100 open tickets at the moment, open, reopened, in progress.) The last status of the discussion (according to [1]): * Tool maintainers can request their own bugzilla component. * There doesn't seem to be a tool to migrate, so someone would have to write and test it. * Does it make sense to migrate tickets related to the toolserver environment, not to the tool itself? (Tim: Yes, because of the historical value) Andre gave me these hints for an investigation: (Don't laugh, maybe you know all this already.) * Jira has a REST API, Bugzilla doesn't. * Bugzilla has a json rpc (example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/jsonrpc.cgi?method=Bugzilla.extensions) * It's not likely that all fields can be transferred, it might be a good idea to concentrate on the tool name and the status. * To import tickets, Andre would take a list of all users that want their tickets in Bugzilla but don't have an account. He could then create the list of account IDs that the tickets are associated with. Existing similar things the could help to find out more are below. Now, I would like to know if there is anyone among you who would like to investigate this further or has experience reports to pass along. Best, Silke Links: [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Toolserver_features_needed_in_Tool_Labs#Bug_tracker Migrating report (2011): http://www.bdunagan.com/2011/11/07/migrating-jira-to-bugzilla/ Pywikipediabot (Sourceforge - Bugzilla) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Migrating_to_bugzilla Mingle - Bugzilla: https://github.com/awjrichards/bingle -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Tools using Google Maps and migration to Tool Labs
Hi again, to take up a topic that was touched on at Wikimania and now discussed on labs-l: Is it allowed to migrate tools that use Google Maps? tl;dr: Hard to tell right now. Please provide examples! Ask about your tools, give details! Here is why: Marc-Andre Pelletier and Luis Villa explained the following: The tool would have to respect both the Labs Terms of Use and the Google Maps Terms of Use. This can mean users have to read and acknowledge a disclaimer before a tool can point to Google Maps. Without concrete examples this is hard to analyse. How exactly would this be used? If you want your tool to be looked at as an example please come to labs-l and present it. Kolossos also strongly recommended to look at open source tools like OpenLayers or Leaflet as alternatives to Google Maps. Most things can be solved with open stuff nowadays. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Yes, it will be switched off. (was: Re: TS and/vs. Labs)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, DrTrigon, hi Nux, hi all, E.g. is it still planned to discontinue the TS? Having 2 payed admins does not sound like that... - good news? @DrTrigon: Please look at the Roadmap at [1]. Yes, the Toolserver will be shut down next year. We found amette, the other paid part-time admin, to better share the high workload of DaB. and nosy. This is not related to shutting down the server as DaB. said. What will happen after June 2014? Specifically - what will happen to any tools and repositories (SVN) that will still be on TS after that date? Will TS cease to exist, will it be inaccessible, just databases will be inaccessible or stale or what? @Nux: We are still discussing the details of how to proceed after June 2014. But the bottomline *is* that it will be switched off. Everyone will have had more than a year to migrate their tools and delete them from the Toolserver. Best, Silke [1] here again: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en - -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSE2iYAAoJEHodr38uMi5idlAIAKUENsyH/trghRSIGIBRD+A+ G5Dro+zUVySxKMr7x4M0LyJEQU0A6ZMeIQsw4nDHqWe4kUdEnFn563ps8JI57m/R VINpS0RiZlFmbGhOE0tjAO14drnWtpmsmUyGzXhUoLtwCcWB3rpOxoKNVTOfk9ym VXh0S1GpfkvuG3SiROzS4CMWGmsU3p4J6wYxMnUDrvGikJZ9quWVanLJf3j6DpA5 gVc6+pArt3rfvv8WTxfwr2Gr+DnrKqXoo9hf9oSmdoLKInBiBBCVl0gQlqYH/ikW cTq0ZMT0ZaWaeK/FK4hzHG5mO+W9QeS41m7L9wtLZ4tP0ybTDBnerV5rKZylBZo= =6HmC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] TS and/vs. Labs
Hi, DrTrigon, hi all! Here are the essentials: * Please migrate your tools to Tool Labs until June 30th 2014. (Roadmap: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en) * Yes, there are replicas of the databases and many other features. It is made similar to the login servers on TS. * Subscribe to labs-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-land/or join #wikimedia-labs on freenode. There are lots of people who will help you. * Most tools will just run when you copy them to Tool Labs. Just in case: Need help adapting a tool? Ask me and I'll do what I can to get you help, e.g. from my colleague Johannes Kroll. * If you figure out things that aren't documented, please help others by writing it down, on-wiki (link below) or on labs-l. * Read this list for updates. * Some links: ** Tool Labs start page: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools ** Tool Labs documentation: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help (Documentation is ongoing, your help is appreciated!) Any more specific questions? Please ask! :) Greetings from Wikimania, Silke 2013/8/11 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com I don't know precisely what's happening, my skill knowledge is barely sufficient to have a vague idea of what I'm doing; I just began to explore Labs I can only say thanks to DaB for opportunity and help that I fastly got when needed. Alex 2013/8/10 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com If you're asking is it safe to move tools to Labs, my experience so far say yes. I can't speak for all unique toolserver features, though. Cheers, Magnus On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Dr. Trigon dr.tri...@surfeu.ch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello DaB! Could you please give me a short update - the end of 2013 is approaching, what is the current state for TS resp. Labs? Thanks and Greetings DrTrigon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIGCboACgkQAXWvBxzBrDAKPwCgjsEcGfRtbKaw/eDwTxNhUFfo XgwAoLzV6J+TCdJZ3lvwvkqsMWihQmr+ =1dN+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- undefined ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Preparing migration: Tool Labs workshop at Wikimania
Hi all! Just a short notice to invite you to the workshop taking place at Wikimania in Hongkong from 7th to 11th of August 2013: There will be a 90 minutes workshop (2x45 min) on Saturday August 10th from 16:00 to 17:30: Part 1: Presenting the Tool Labs Part 2: Migrating from the Toolserver to Tool Labs The makers of Wikimedia Labs and Tool Labs will explain the infrastructure and answer your questions. If you are at Wikimania, drop in! I'd be glad to meet you! If you have a full schedule at Wikimania and won't make it to the workshop come talk to me at WMDE's booth or whereever you see me. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Toolserver-announce] My fading out
Hallo DaB., (German for a safer choice of words) danke für Dein jahrelanges Engagement. Ich kann selbst höchstens ahnen, was es bedeutet, ein Projekt wie den Toolserver zu administrieren. Aber ich denke, alle Achtung, sowas ehrenamtlich zu stemmen, ist echt eine große Nummer. Danke auch für Deine Fairness, uns so früh Bescheid zu sagen bzw. Deine frühere Ankündigung jetzt so verbindlich zu wiederholen. Das schätze ich sehr, ebenso wie Deine Bereitschaft, Dein Wissen weiterzugeben, bevor Du Dich zurückziehst. Und schließlich auch danke für Deine ehrliche Mail. Ich finde Deine Entscheidung schade, Deine Gründe sind für mich aber auch nachvollziehbar. Silke 2013/5/29 DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info: Hello guys, I just extended my personal account until 5. January of 2014 – it is the last time I do this. At this day I will also remove my access as root of the Toolserver. Beginning of 1. July I will start my fade out, doing less and less work for the Toolserver until I am not longer visible. I announce that this early because I think it is fair for you to know that will happen and I like not just to vanish like some roots before. There are 4 main factors why I decided to not continue my work until the end of the Toolserver in December 2014. Reason 1 is that the Toolserver now has a second paid root and 6 months will be enough to teach amette and nosy what I know about the Toolserver. Reason 2 is that there was no real investment in the Toolserver in the first 6 months of 2013 and I very doubt that there will ever be any in the second half or beyond. Reason 3 is that I learned during the last weekend that the support of the Toolserver in the board of WMDE reached its minimum. One board-member announced publicly during the general meeting of WMDE that it is good that there is a timetable for the Toolserver now – I know only 1 timetable for the Toolserver and that’s Silke’s splan of destruction/s roadmap for migration [1]. Another board-member told me during a chatting in the halls that ToolLabs (or the move to) is klasse (~great). It is impossible to improve the Toolserver against the CEO *and* the board of WMDE. Reason 4 are you, the tool-authors. The participation in my survey [2] was pitiful low and the majority of these few who voted, voted to leave the Toolserver as soon as possible or this year – a trend that was already visible on the mailing-list before. So I conclude that the most of you don’t care and whose care will leave this year. While I asked for documentation (or at least correction) in the toolserver- wikis for years, nearly nothing ever happened. But now that ToolLabs is on the horizon you write documentation for THAT – freely. And it is really a joke to compare the empty new database-servers of ToolLabs with our old and heavy loaded servers for performance. Let’s see how fast they are if 10 slow queries, which had run for hours, run in parallel. With very few exceptions none of you helped to protect the Toolserver against ToolLabs; all you were interested in was that ToolLabs provides the same environment so your tools can continue to run there. When I read such phrases like we have to stabilize the Toolserver until Labs is ready or now we need the Toolserver for redirects to ToolLabs I could vomit! I promised in November 2012 that I will stay for another year and I will fulfill that promise – but not a day longer. There is no point in fighting for something if the something has already surrendered and no support is there (not from you, the toolusers, the board of WMDE, the CEO of WMDE or the general meeting of WMDE). These of you who are able to move to ToolLabs I wish luck. Let’s hope that the WMF does not decide to re-focus again too soon. Let’s hope that the WMF does not disable tools just because there are a little slow. Let’s hope that the WMF does not restrict the database-tables even more. Let’s hope that the WMF does not kick the volunteers out completely some days like they did with the WMF-wiki-admins some weeks ago. And hoping is all we can do, because the WMF is a undemocratic construct and ToolLabs is lead by paid roots, so whatever the WMF staff decides will happen. Maybe if one of these things happen you will remember the tiny, slow, unstable, but free Toolserver — but it will not be there anymore. Sincerely, DaB. [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en [2] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Labs-Moving-Survey -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885 ___ Toolserver-announce mailing list toolserver-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-announce -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung
Re: [Toolserver-l] Status update on Tool Labs
Cool, thanks for documenting, Magnus! Cheers, Silke 2013/5/28 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: Database HOWTO: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Migrating_from_toolserver#Database_access On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hello to all tool maintainers! It was good to see several of you in person this weekend! Faces ftw! :) Here is a status update with what is now working in Tool Labs: First of all (looking at DaB.s survey and your comments): You _don't_ have to care about virtual instances, puppet or any of this. This is underneath/behind Tool Labs but you can just use the login server without having to know about it. What you get: * login server made to resemble the toolserver * database replicas from s1-s6, s7 is following in June. Access to all data you can access as a registered, unprivileged user. * possibility to create your own user databases * shared project storage, home directories (nfs) * possibility to add maintainers to your project via the web interface on http://tools.wmflabs.org/ * possibility to restore your files to the state they were in 1, 2, 3 hours ago, 1, 2, 3 days ago and on the last 2 Sundays. * infrastructure to run web services * job system: OpenGridengine * two different environments to develop tools in: Tools project which is a stable environment, Bots project which can be used for experiments with the environment, root access is possible in the latter. * bug tracking in WMF's Bugzilla (product: Wikimedia Labs, components: bots and tools for the two projects) * more stuff that is mentioned in the road map (link below). What we are still on: * documentation (let's crowdsource this!) * make Merlissimo's MerlLinkBot hunt down deprecated weblinks and point them to your tools' new URL. Looking for things you can help with? * Write down you experiences like some already did: Magnus Manske: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Migrating_from_toolserver or Russell Blau: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Russell_Blau/Using_pywikibot_on_Labs * Help to improve the user interface of tools.wmflabs.org! Contact Coren/Marc-Andre Pelletier. Links: Tool Labs help: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help FAQ (ongoing collection of what you ask): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Migration_of_Toolserver_tools Road map: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en (English) and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de (German) What's next? Please come and try out the new database replication! If your tool is up and running in Tool Labs, _please consider documenting_ what you missed in the docs. By doing so you will help others a lot! Don't hesitate to ask! The best places to ask questions: * IRC (#wikimedia-labs), where Coren and petan (as Tool Labs admins) and many other experienced people hang around * the list labs-l (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l) Do your tools need more adaptations than you think you can do? Wouldn't mind a helping hand? Ask me and I'll try to find you a helper! Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] ssl certificate
Hi all! I have to specify the exact webserver and can't skip that step. Which one would I have to enter here??? Apache2? Zeus v3? - possible choices I have... Thanks, Silke P.S. Sorry I didn't manage to do this in Amsterdam, it was simply one task too much. 2013/5/27 Marlen Caemmerer marlen.caemme...@wikimedia.de: Hey, I tried that already on Friday but there are a few organizational questions open that will be answered today I think. Cheers Marlen/nosy ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Status update on Tool Labs
Hello to all tool maintainers! It was good to see several of you in person this weekend! Faces ftw! :) Here is a status update with what is now working in Tool Labs: First of all (looking at DaB.s survey and your comments): You _don't_ have to care about virtual instances, puppet or any of this. This is underneath/behind Tool Labs but you can just use the login server without having to know about it. What you get: * login server made to resemble the toolserver * database replicas from s1-s6, s7 is following in June. Access to all data you can access as a registered, unprivileged user. * possibility to create your own user databases * shared project storage, home directories (nfs) * possibility to add maintainers to your project via the web interface on http://tools.wmflabs.org/ * possibility to restore your files to the state they were in 1, 2, 3 hours ago, 1, 2, 3 days ago and on the last 2 Sundays. * infrastructure to run web services * job system: OpenGridengine * two different environments to develop tools in: Tools project which is a stable environment, Bots project which can be used for experiments with the environment, root access is possible in the latter. * bug tracking in WMF's Bugzilla (product: Wikimedia Labs, components: bots and tools for the two projects) * more stuff that is mentioned in the road map (link below). What we are still on: * documentation (let's crowdsource this!) * make Merlissimo's MerlLinkBot hunt down deprecated weblinks and point them to your tools' new URL. Looking for things you can help with? * Write down you experiences like some already did: Magnus Manske: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Migrating_from_toolserver or Russell Blau: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Russell_Blau/Using_pywikibot_on_Labs * Help to improve the user interface of tools.wmflabs.org! Contact Coren/Marc-Andre Pelletier. Links: Tool Labs help: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools/Help FAQ (ongoing collection of what you ask): http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Migration_of_Toolserver_tools Road map: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en (English) and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de (German) What's next? Please come and try out the new database replication! If your tool is up and running in Tool Labs, _please consider documenting_ what you missed in the docs. By doing so you will help others a lot! Don't hesitate to ask! The best places to ask questions: * IRC (#wikimedia-labs), where Coren and petan (as Tool Labs admins) and many other experienced people hang around * the list labs-l (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l) Do your tools need more adaptations than you think you can do? Wouldn't mind a helping hand? Ask me and I'll try to find you a helper! Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Introducing the new toolserver admin
Hi all! Let me introduce Alexander Mette, the new toolserver admin who came to support DaB. and Nosy! Welcome! As soon as he is a bit more in touch with the toolserver, he would like to meet you in an office hour. (Will be announced separately.) You can reach him via e-mail as alexander.me...@wikimedia.de and on IRC as amette. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations
Dear toolserver crowd, especially dear WMDE members among you! tldr; I am asking the WMDE members committed to the toolserver: What can be a satisfactory state of the server given this strange situation of transition? A few thoughts about the current state of the toolserver. This e-mail is born because I'm not satisfied: I took over the management for this project at WMDE three months ago. The toolserver's performance is not better than before (that's my perception). And all I am doing is reacting to things - though I would like to be in a more active position. This e-mail is also directed to the WMDE members whom we promised to improve the toolserver's performance. (For transparence, this mail is on the public list in English.) I would like to make some of my thoughts transparent: First of all, I'm in an awkward situation with contradictory tasks: On the one hand, I am trying to do things to keep the toolserver running. On the other hand my job is to set up the roadmap for its abolishment. The first means to argue for investments into hardware. This entails to talk about rack space and additional possibilities for power supply, both of which are at their limits in the data centre. The second means to propose the date of shutting down the server which is so close that new investments seem a funny idea. Do we want new contracts with a data centre we are about to leave next year? Also, getting hardware there is a lenghty process as the data centre is far away and physically maintained by others (WMF staff) who don't live next door to it either. (To clarify: It's *not* that WMDE refuses to spend the money. I am simply wondering if and how my work makes sense.) Secondly: I think that my task is fuzzy: that the toolserver runs (better). What is that supposed to mean? When is this goal attained? Has this ever been put in a way that it becomes an accomplishable task? I refuse to struggle with undefined tasks that I'll never get done in a satisfying way. I miss a plan! Some might say this is a community-driven project that doesn't work like this. It develops the way it develops and planning is impossible. But I have spent quite some time thinking about questions like these: * Has there ever been a systematic planning of resources for the toolserver? * Is there any agreement about growth and limits of the toolserver? Does it grow with growing demands? I think I implicitly understand the toolserver is supposed to grow infinitely. This makes it hard to stabilize the server: We only learn about its growth when the admins inform us that the system hits its technical limits. (They did inform us, but the future of the project was unclear already then.) Thirdly, I have been thinking about how to go on. * Looking at my own roadmap I think this is the moment to stop the toolserver from growing. We might rather want to talk about strategies to improve performance by systematically cleaning up what has moved to Tool Labs. Or by cleaning up the remains of about 300 inactive accounts to free space. * When does the toolserver no longer accept new accounts? Tool Labs shall be ready in weeks. Once it's there, I think it would be fair to send new people to Tool Labs right away. To cut a long story short: I am not sure what you expect me to do in this situation. Please clarify! I don't want to deal with a task without a clear task. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Tool Labs: Summary of Feedback on the Draft for the Roadmap
Hi all! Let me shortly summarize the comments on the roadmap's discussion pages: There were no comments about the actual roadmap but feedback concerning these two topics: 1) What's going to migrate and what isn't? * Until now, it's not clear which tools will not be able to move. Or which maintainers might decide not to move and why. People are curious about this but tool maintainers would have to talk about it for us to find out. 2) Bad Tool Labs experience: * How fast is the account creation process right now? A tool maintainer reported that he spontaneously had some time to think about migrating. He requested an account but then waited for two weeks to get it. For people working on tools in their spare time this is too long. * Documentation has to be improved! Good overviews are needed as well as a detailed documentation of everything relevant to working in Tool Labs. * An example: You get strange messages and can't find any information on them, e.g. this one: Your user rights were changed by Andrew Bogott. You are now a member of this group: shell. Learn more. By clicking onto it, you get a list of permissions: loginviashell. There is a red link pointing to Wikitech:Shell. The user is confused. * Who is responsible for documentation? (I'm not sure I answered this correctly: It's not clear to me how much the Tool Labs docs overlap with general Labs docs and who is responsible for that part. Or is the Tool Labs documentation isolated from the rest???) Cheers, Silke 2013/4/19 Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.de: Hi all! As you know Wikimedia Deutschland has the mandate to create a roadmap for the availability of features on Wikimedia Labs / Tool Labs that are currently available on the Toolserver until the next membership assembly (May 25th). I have worked on this for the last weeks and now published a draft. I would like to get your feedback on this draft to make sure it is sound and nothing vital is missing. The current version is not final but hopefully very close to what will be presented at the membership assembly next month. The plan has been drafted in close cooperation with the responsible people at the Wikimedia Foundation. It still needs a final ok from them though. You can find the drafts at: English version: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en German version: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de To not spread out discussions too far please use the discussion pages of the above two pages for comments, suggestions and corrections. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Draft online: Roadmap for the setup of Tool Labs and the migration from Toolserver
Hi all! As you know Wikimedia Deutschland has the mandate to create a roadmap for the availability of features on Wikimedia Labs / Tool Labs that are currently available on the Toolserver until the next membership assembly (May 25th). I have worked on this for the last weeks and now published a draft. I would like to get your feedback on this draft to make sure it is sound and nothing vital is missing. The current version is not final but hopefully very close to what will be presented at the membership assembly next month. The plan has been drafted in close cooperation with the responsible people at the Wikimedia Foundation. It still needs a final ok from them though. You can find the drafts at: English version: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_en German version: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Roadmap_de To not spread out discussions too far please use the discussion pages of the above two pages for comments, suggestions and corrections. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Flue again
Hi DaB., take your time and get well! Gute Besserung! LG Silke 2013/4/15 DaB. w...@daniel.baur4.info Hello all, just as short notice: I have the flue again and it is unlikely that I will administrate the toolserver until properly Friday. Please try to reach Nosy or one of the operators if you find a problem. Sincerely, DaB. -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885 ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] A (21) day in the Labs
Hi Tim and all, 2013/4/8 Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: [...] The database replication is also well on its way; you can find the current roadmap at: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tool_Labs/Database_plan [...] To quote from there: | Overview | * All public wikis will be replicated to the LabsDB servers, | with private user data redacted. | * First, data will be replicated to a special set of data- | base servers (PreLabsDBDBS) that use triggers to rewrite | or remove private data. They will write row based bin- | logs. Production shards will map 1:1 with mysql in- | stances, unlike on toolserver where some are combined via | a custom replication engine. | * Triggers will be created with the help of the redactatron | schema review tool. | * The actual labs databases will replicate from the above | mentioned databases. Users will access data via views | that only include reviewed tables and columns to ensure | that unreviewed tables (such as from a new extension) | aren't exposed without prior review. | * Replicated data will be stored on flash storage, while | each system will have a traditional disk array attached to | store labs project data. Users will be able to join | project tables against wiki tables, but only within the | current shard. | * The labs team will integrate these databases with labs, | automating database creation and access on a per-project | basis. This means that JOINs for example between wikis and Commons or Wikidata will not be possible. WTF? One of the stated goals of Tool Labs is Provide a location for analytics work, so any changes here should /enhance/ the possibili- ties the Toolserver offers and not shrink them. This is BTW one of the top items on the Needed Toolserver features list. We will see into this and find out what is possible to do until when. You'll hear more about it soon. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Can't log into toolserver
As you sent this, someone here in the office reported the same problem. Cheers, Silke On 10.04.2013 12:01, Magnus Manske wrote: Keeps asking for password, but doesn't accept it. login.toolserver.org, also ortelius, probably more. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Toolserver / Tool Labs at the Amsterdam Hackathon
Hi! Just a short note to remind you of the upcoming MediaWiki Hackathon in Amsterdam: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013 Marc Pelletier, Sumana Harihareswara, me and *many* others will be there to meet you: We'll give a status update and a migration workshop for tool developers. The existing documentation will be updated on-the-fly. If you want help to get started at the Hackathon, please *get your Labs Account beforehand*. Here is how: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Getting_Started If you happen to be from Austria, you might still want to apply for a travel scholarship from Wikimedia Austria: https://www.wikimedia.at/content/stipendien-f%C3%BCr-den-amsterdam-hackathon-2013 (in German). Hope to see you there! Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Toolserver job announcement: System Administrator wanted
Hi there! To support DaB and Nosy, WMDE is ready to pay another person for toolserver administration. Please spread the word and don't hesitate to apply! English: https://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/System_Administrator_%28m/f%29 German: https://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/Systemadministrator_%28m/w%29 Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] List of tools on the toolserver - Help needed
Hey all! I am impressed! Wondering what tools are actually running on the toolserver I started a list. It is long! You can admire it here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Toolserver/List_of_Tools For sure, it is incomplete as I used the toolserver wiki and jira to find information. In the light of building Tool Labs to become a platform the tools can run on, we need more information about the tools. So here is what I ask all tool developers for: * Please check if your tools are on the list (correctly). * Please fill in your software dependencies, data dependencies, use patterns (are they running continously? or webservices? Batch runs? etc.), the license. * If you have not given your software an explicit license, please note that only free software can migrate to Labs. Consider putting your stuff under a free license. * If you have already migrated your bot or tool to Labs and it is in the list, please say so in the last column status. The same if a mentioned tool is abandoned and shall not move. Thanks for your help! Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Adding more roots
Hi! After consultation with WMF, I would like to correct what I wrote the other day about toolserver admins. According to Erik Möller, WMF needs all toolserver admins to * be identified with their real name; * have been individually vetted by WMF operations; * have signed a non-disclosure-agreement with the chapter. Whether someone is actually paid by a chapter is not crucial. Sorry for the confusion! Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Adding more roots
Hi! DaB is right: WMF as the database owner accepts only paid roots. As to WMDE, we are ready to pay another root who is willing to work for WMDE and able to handle the requirements of the toolserver (that you know better than I do right now). You are welcome to propose people (or yourselves) or to help specify the requirements for a job advertisement. I see your point, DaB, the work you would put into instructing a new person. So another possibility could be to pay an external service provider to get a bunch of things done in one go to decrease the to do pile. Which is rather a short-term help and still requires some DaB. For this, I would need a list of tasks that you, DaB and Marlen, would like to delegate. Any opinions on this? Personally, I am new to this topic. At this point, it is hard to tell how long the transition will take, but if I may roughly estimate I think the toolserver will realistically NOT leave us in 2013. Also, I do not consider this as an attempt to increase WMDE's influence (at least, I am not going to brainwash people ;)) but as part of our commitment to keep up support of the toolserver. Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Spec for Tool Labs
Hi! I just united the two existing lists of Toolserver features needed in Tool Labs and Toolserver features wanted in Tool Labs into one single page that is here now: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Toolserver_features_needed_in_Tool_Labs Quite a few of you already edited it at the end of last year. If you miss stuff in there, please go ahead and add it! Cheers, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Hello! New TS coordinator @ WMDE
Dear Toolserver people! Hi! I am the new person managing all toolserver issues at Wikimedia Germany. This means that I am the contact person at WMDE for questions concerning the current toolserver and I coordinate a small team of WMDE staff members for the upcoming migration process to WMF Labs. Wikimedia Germany is going to support the toolserver as long as there is no alternative ready. I would like to stress that I'll do my best to help you keep it running until then. Please don't hesitate to contact me when any problem occurs. I am in touch with DaB and Marlen and I will help with all I can do at WMDE to reduce failures/the time it takes to fix them. As you know, Wikimedia Foundation is currently working on a cloud-based infrastructure for tools that will - at some point in the nearer future - have functionalities equivalent to the toolserver. Many parts of it are up and running, but right now, it is not clear when Labs will have all the functionalities. Currently, WMDE and WMF are working together to set up a concrete road map within the next months (until May). Once this road map or further documentation exist, you'll know it, of course. When it comes to migrating your stuff, WMF and WMDE staff will support you as best we can - you saw Sumana's e-mail on this topic recently. I am looking forward to working with you all! You'll hear from me again soon and please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions! Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Systemadministratorin und Projektassistenz Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
