Re: Topband: 3C6A
On 2012-02-24, at 4:47 PM, k6xt wrote: There's two sides to the DX Code of Conduct pictured on the site. One of them is our side, the callers. The other is the DX side. Referring especially to sticking with a partial call until its correct in the log, no matter the jamming level. Often what we hear is the DX gives up and moves on to one of the intentional QRM jammer incessant callers. A tactic guaranteed to increase the incessant caller activity level. Hi Guys, A look back through my late 1920's issues of QST magazine reveals a monthly column entitled, I believe, PREHISTORIC SIGNALS. Therein, for all to behold, were the specific call signs of stations heard during the previous month that had not pulled-up their bootstraps on the eve of newer, more stringent regulations from the then FCC regarding signal quality... These offenders were guilty of such things listed as raw AC on signal, extreme drift, excessive chirp, etc. etc. etc. The idea, obviously, was that offenders so outed would be inspired (shamed is more like it!) to re-vamp their transmitters, bringing them up to the then modern standards. I wonder if a similar such list of PREHISTORIC OPERATING STANDARDS might be in order to-day? DX-pedition operators know the repeated callers, the out-of-turn callers, etc. only too well---as do those of us on this side of the pile-up. Does working these offenders not, effectively, REWARD their prehistoric operating standards? Would it, perhaps, be better for the organizers of such DX treks to publish the call signs of REPEAT offenders on their web site, for all to see (including, hopefully, the offenders themselves)...? I don't know what general consensus might be on such an idea, but it's apparent that whatever excellent codes of DX conduct exist in the printed form on-line, in the various Amateur publications, etc., they are completely utterly lost upon a GROWING cadre of so-called DX'ers. Perhaps the time is nigh to stop relying upon the honour system to elevate standards, and to instead, cite poor operating standards etiquette in a public way...because things are hardly improving on the air, such as they are. ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
The problem is that there is nothing to prevent someone from using YOUR call, making a complete ass of himself on the air and thus trashing your reputation. 73, Roger On 2/25/2012 8:06 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote: Hi Guys, A look back through my late 1920's issues of QST magazine reveals a monthly column entitled, I believe, PREHISTORIC SIGNALS. Therein, for all to behold, were the specific call signs of stations heard during the previous month that had not pulled-up their bootstraps on the eve of newer, more stringent regulations from the then FCC regarding signal quality... These offenders were guilty of such things listed as raw AC on signal, extreme drift, excessive chirp, etc. etc. etc. The idea, obviously, was that offenders so outed would be inspired (shamed is more like it!) to re-vamp their transmitters, bringing them up to the then modern standards. I wonder if a similar such list of PREHISTORIC OPERATING STANDARDS might be in order to-day? DX-pedition operators know the repeated callers, the out-of-turn callers, etc. only too well---as do those of us on this side of the pile-up. Does working these offenders not, effectively, REWARD their prehistoric operating standards? Would it, perhaps, be better for the organizers of such DX treks to publish the call signs of REPEAT offenders on their web site, for all to see (including, hopefully, the offenders themselves)...? I don't know what general consensus might be on such an idea, but it's apparent that whatever excellent codes of DX conduct exist in the printed form on-line, in the various Amateur publications, etc., they are completely utterly lost upon a GROWING cadre of so-called DX'ers. Perhaps the time is nigh to stop relying upon the honour system to elevate standards, and to instead, cite poor operating standards etiquette in a public way...because things are hardly improving on the air, such as they are. ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK -- Remember the Liberty (AGTR-5) http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/ http://www.gtr5.com/ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
On 2012-02-25, at 8:19 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote: The problem is that there is nothing to prevent someone from using YOUR call, making a complete ass of himself on the air and thus trashing your reputation. Hi Roger, Quite true. I agree. I guess that wouldn't say too much about the honour ethics of the person impersonating me, would it...?! ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
Several months ago, Eddy, in more of an act of frustration than anything, I cited several hams, by call sign, on another reflector for blatant adherance to the non-DX code of conduct. These two stations were heard in several pileups simply blasting away, never...NEVER listening, it appeared...unbelievably bad form. One fella wrote me back offering his assistance - he had crafted a LID award certificate and was more than willing to send it to the offenders I'd mentioned. I said, Hey. Go for it! Works for me. However, the PROBLEM is - this hand wringing and knashing of teeth over those types of 'operators' (operators used loosely) doesn't do a thing for us - we feel better, momentarily, LID certificates are sent and then...the next time we're engaged in a pileup, you/I/we will find more..there just are too many of 'em. I hear 'em on all band and have resigned myself - particularly given that I'm operting at QRP levels - to the fact that I've got to outsmart two groups of DX chasersthe ones who abide by the rules of conduct AND the doofus types. In short, and most often, that means I NEED to listen for both groups and pick my transmitting frequency with great care (i.e., avoid the doofus types AND understand where the DX station is listening, based on where I hear the calling station that he/she is working). I will say I did have an enjoyable, non-stressed time working VP6T on 160, QRP --- simply 'cuz I happen to be listening on his QRG when he came on! Hah...now THAT was a stroke of luck, 'eh I'm sorta reminded by this little ditty, when the conversation regarding poor operating styles picks up: Life is hardthen you die! 72, ma Mon! Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV From: deswy...@xplornet.ca Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:06:43 -0500 To: k...@arrl.net CC: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: 3C6A On 2012-02-24, at 4:47 PM, k6xt wrote: There's two sides to the DX Code of Conduct pictured on the site. One of them is our side, the callers. The other is the DX side. Referring especially to sticking with a partial call until its correct in the log, no matter the jamming level. Often what we hear is the DX gives up and moves on to one of the intentional QRM jammer incessant callers. A tactic guaranteed to increase the incessant caller activity level. Hi Guys, A look back through my late 1920's issues of QST magazine reveals a monthly column entitled, I believe, PREHISTORIC SIGNALS. Therein, for all to behold, were the specific call signs of stations heard during the previous month that had not pulled-up their bootstraps on the eve of newer, more stringent regulations from the then FCC regarding signal quality... These offenders were guilty of such things listed as raw AC on signal, extreme drift, excessive chirp, etc. etc. etc. The idea, obviously, was that offenders so outed would be inspired (shamed is more like it!) to re-vamp their transmitters, bringing them up to the then modern standards. I wonder if a similar such list of PREHISTORIC OPERATING STANDARDS might be in order to-day? DX-pedition operators know the repeated callers, the out-of-turn callers, etc. only too well---as do those of us on this side of the pile-up. Does working these offenders not, effectively, REWARD their prehistoric operating standards? Would it, perhaps, be better for the organizers of such DX treks to publish the call signs of REPEAT offenders on their web site, for all to see (including, hopefully, the offenders themselves)...? I don't know what general consensus might be on such an idea, but it's apparent that whatever excellent codes of DX conduct exist in the printed form on-line, in the various Amateur publications, etc., they are completely utterly lost upon a GROWING cadre of so-called DX'ers. Perhaps the time is nigh to stop relying upon the honour system to elevate standards, and to instead, cite poor operating standards etiquette in a public way...because things are hardly improving on the air, such as they are. ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
Really nothing you can do if someone decides to go that way. But agree with me, if I hear some callsigns making kind of mess on the bands, i.e. W4ZV, K3LR, W5UN, DF2PY, (and many more to mention some of them), I definitly DO NO TRUST they are the real ones..!! Our reputation is preceeded by respect to others and good behaviour. So, any good TB operator will identify in a second who is who..! I am not worried about my reputation, nor anyone of the TB operators I know from many years..They are all great people that I am happy to have as friends, and do know they never do such things on the air.. My respect to all of you guys..! Josep EA6BF - Original Message - From: Eddy Swynar To: Roger D Johnson Cc: topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 3C6A On 2012-02-25, at 8:19 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote: The problem is that there is nothing to prevent someone from using YOUR call, making a complete ass of himself on the air and thus trashing your reputation. ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: 3C6A/3C0E
For those who haven't seen this, there is a delay until Friday, 3/2/12 until they arrive on Annobon Island. From their website: http://www.gdgdxc.net/3c0e/http://www.gdgdxc.net/3c0e/ The two operators are now in Equatorial Guinea (3C6A) and they are having problems in their journey to the island of Annobon, so this will be delayed until Friday. They Will continue doing everything possible to give the entity to the largest number of hams, but remember that they are only two persons. Jim, K1PX K1PX at msn.com ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 3C6A
I started that thread without a real thought of its applicability to 3C6A. Just pointing out the facts, ma'am as Jack might say. In fact 3C6A ops seem to be doing very well sticking with a call til its accurately logged. My own experience with them on 30M is instructive. I worked them twice (insurance since no online log) on 30M, both times weak with QSB and the usual QRM such that they had to reply twice, the second reply sending my call twice. A good job! 73 Art K6XT~~ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm. On 2/25/2012 6:06 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote: On 2012-02-24, at 4:47 PM, k6xt wrote: There's two sides to the DX Code of Conduct pictured on the site. One of them is our side, the callers. The other is the DX side. Referring especially to sticking with a partial call until its correct in the log, no matter the jamming level. Often what we hear is the DX gives up and moves on to one of the intentional QRM jammer incessant callers. A tactic guaranteed to increase the incessant caller activity level. Hi Guys, A look back through my late 1920's issues of QST magazine reveals a monthly column entitled, I believe, PREHISTORIC SIGNALS. Therein, for all to behold, were the specific call signs of stations heard during the previous month that had not pulled-up their bootstraps on the eve of newer, more stringent regulations from the then FCC regarding signal quality... These offenders were guilty of such things listed as raw AC on signal, extreme drift, excessive chirp, etc. etc. etc. The idea, obviously, was that offenders so outed would be inspired (shamed is more like it!) to re-vamp their transmitters, bringing them up to the then modern standards. I wonder if a similar such list of PREHISTORIC OPERATING STANDARDS might be in order to-day? DX-pedition operators know the repeated callers, the out-of-turn callers, etc. only too well---as do those of us on this side of the pile-up. Does working these offenders not, effectively, REWARD their prehistoric operating standards? Would it, perhaps, be better for the organizers of such DX treks to publish the call signs of REPEAT offenders on their web site, for all to see (including, hopefully, the offenders themselves)...? I don't know what general consensus might be on such an idea, but it's apparent that whatever excellent codes of DX conduct exist in the printed form on-line, in the various Amateur publications, etc., they are completely utterly lost upon a GROWING cadre of so-called DX'ers. Perhaps the time is nigh to stop relying upon the honour system to elevate standards, and to instead, cite poor operating standards etiquette in a public way...because things are hardly improving on the air, such as they are. ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: Propagation last evening
Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
The only thing I heard last night was KH7Y and N4PN calling CQ...I couldn't get Paul's attention 73, Steve KH6/AA4V Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:07 AM, chacuff chac...@cableone.net wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
My first contest on 160, and really my first heavy activity session. The only DX I worked was a dozen or so Carribean, Mexico, and Canadian provinces 1,2,3,4,6 Also 43 states, no west coast though. I saw lots of DX spots, but heard almost none of it. I used YCCC dx cluster, but have no idea who was posting the spots...could have been Europeans. Did manage to work almost 500 stations this first night. I'm 35 miles west of Knoxville TN. BILL K4OWR On 2/25/2012 2:07 PM, chacuff wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
We've had three contests in a row where Friday night 160 was really stinky. Will we have three in a row where Saturday night was a whole new deal? At least that long line of thunderstorms off shore that stretched from GA to New Brunswick will be gone with the front. In North Carolina the band sounded like mid-summer, with 20 over and 30 over QRN. 73, Guy. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, chacuff chac...@cableone.net wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
I only got on for a very short time in the mid evening (8-10pm local ). Prop must have been kinda weird. Some EU's were over S9 yet I only made a couple of QSOs. I worked W9RE who was actually weak-ish (weird, in and of itself) on the QRG of OL7M who was over S9. I made a comment to W9RE that there was a very loud EU on his freq and nobody out east could hear him and he said he was not hearing them (the EU) at all. VY2ZM's son was on and working EU's I could not even hearbut that's just normal, hi hi ! Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen Corey Smith 699 Rte 616 Keswick Ridge NB Canada E6L 1T1 - Original Message - From: chacuff To: Topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Topband: Propagation last evening Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4226 - Release Date: 02/22/12 19:34:00 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: cq ssb contest last night
I been calling and calling with no luck just 2 or 3 stations from the us i work. the band was full of us stations and i could hear them ok here but they cant hear me. iam just running 100 watts into an inverted L. will be around tonight and see how it works. good luck to all. kp2bh /jimmy ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
I started about dark_30 here in West Texas all I could hear was 4 other TX stations calling CQ First I tried them with 5w, I wanted to work the contest QRP no responses so I went up to 100w, still nothing so I watched some TV until about 10pm lots of (stateside) stations all over the band by now again no responses to my attempts to answer their CQ's, again with 100w. all the stations I heard were in states I had worked b4 when running QRP in the previous CW contests conclusion reached I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign tisk tisk, their loss, but not to worry its the 1st weekend of the NASCAR season c all you cw ops again for the mid year Stew Perry -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 2/25/2012 1:07 PM, chacuff wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
On 2/25/2012 12:03 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign It's not much better on CW, which is why I no longer bother with 160M contests. It's long past time for scoring rules changes that cause east coast stations to want to work something besides DX. The excessive credit for DX QSOs and countries as multipliers simply does not make sense. EU from most of the east coast is only about 25% greater distance than W6, yet the W1--W6 or W1-W7 QSO counts one point and the EU QSO counts three or five, depending on the contest. The only 160M contest with reasonable scoring rules is the Stew Perry, but there's not nearly enough activity to make it much fun. Is it because the east coast guys don't like anything without their 5:1 scoring advantage? 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: 160M CONTEST SCORING
Hey you guys-while you come down hard on the east coasters for looking east instead of west in the CQWW, don't forget to slam us Canookies-we get DX points for working all you fine fellas just across the border. Talk about skewed scoring! I'd love to see a lot more activity in the only level-playing field contest there is: the SP. Bill VE3CSK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
* Gee, a lot of anger out there about this contest. In my opinion.running a KW or more on 160 is just required. It's the nature of the band, has been since Marconi. I'm a long time SSB op (56 years) and I listen so far down into the weeds my ears hurt. I also use separate rcv antennas, in several directions to help me overcome the noise and hear better overall. I really try to answer even the weakest stations. The 500 people I worked last night can attest to that. The attitude implied by several here is simply sour grapes from those who don't put forth the effort this band requires. I will continue to try to operate my station as best I can. As to the scoring rules.yes, they're unfair to US hams. This does not stop me from getting on and enjoying myself.* *BILL K4OWRjust changed from my original 1957 issued original call K2OWR, to try to fit in to my wonderful new home in TN.Y'all * On 2/25/2012 3:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 2/25/2012 12:03 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign It's not much better on CW, which is why I no longer bother with 160M contests. It's long past time for scoring rules changes that cause east coast stations to want to work something besides DX. The excessive credit for DX QSOs and countries as multipliers simply does not make sense. EU from most of the east coast is only about 25% greater distance than W6, yet the W1--W6 or W1-W7 QSO counts one point and the EU QSO counts three or five, depending on the contest. The only 160M contest with reasonable scoring rules is the Stew Perry, but there's not nearly enough activity to make it much fun. Is it because the east coast guys don't like anything without their 5:1 scoring advantage? 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
From my landlocked 4 square in somewhat frozen and snowy Alberta, Friday was mostly what I'd call a normal evening, i.e. not very good. The bigger stations on the east coast are workable (VY2ZM and N4PN were consistently loud), Europe is a dream (and yes, we consider VO1/2 to be part of Europe for this one...) and the Carribean was workable but not many of them to pick from. I only called CQ here from almost 0800 thru 0930 and the best mults that answered were VE9HF and KH6AT but I listened a fair bit (and made a few Perseus recordings earlier) and gave out the multiplier to whomever heard me. It never ceases to amaze/confuse me that when I'm searching and calling stations, anyone that isn't fairly solid copy will virtually NEVER hear me. Yet when I call CQ, I get stations answering me that are so weak I'd never even consider calling them, yet they often comment on how loud I am. They can't all be QRP 73 Don VE6JY On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Steve a...@bellsouth.net wrote: The only thing I heard last night was KH7Y and N4PN calling CQ...I couldn't get Paul's attention 73, Steve KH6/AA4V Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:07 AM, chacuff chac...@cableone.net wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
Hey Sam, It was the poorest first night that I can remember going back 20 years to the first part of the '90's. For a LNG timethe only station we heard and worked out here in southwest NM was one TX superstation. And that is with HP and lots of radiating metal. This is the NI5T multi-op. It too us nearly 5 hours to get to 100 Q's. Only 330 or so for the entire night when normally the count in around 600 for the first night. Best DX was Al, K7CA in Chile and RC0F on Sakalin (sp) peninsula in eastern Russia. I like others am looking for the band to flip-flop tonight and give us a reasonably good shot. 73, and get on for a while after the 10 PM news. Milt, N5IA, one of the ops at NI5T -Original Message- From: Sam Morgan Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:03 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation last evening I started about dark_30 here in West Texas all I could hear was 4 other TX stations calling CQ First I tried them with 5w, I wanted to work the contest QRP no responses so I went up to 100w, still nothing so I watched some TV until about 10pm lots of (stateside) stations all over the band by now again no responses to my attempts to answer their CQ's, again with 100w. all the stations I heard were in states I had worked b4 when running QRP in the previous CW contests conclusion reached I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign tisk tisk, their loss, but not to worry its the 1st weekend of the NASCAR season c all you cw ops again for the mid year Stew Perry -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 2/25/2012 1:07 PM, chacuff wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4831 - Release Date: 02/25/12 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
Well, I might agree with you Jim, if all the states and provinces weren't multipliers. And that the strategy of winners for 160 contests is to WORK ANYTHING THAT MOVES. If you hear it, work it. Doesn't matter if it's east coast or west coast or DX. Personally my limiting factor is being able to hear weak stations. CQ and ARRL list winners by states and call areas and gives them certificates. Nice piece of paper. 73, Guy (If I can hear you I'll work you) K2AV On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.comwrote: On 2/25/2012 12:03 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign It's not much better on CW, which is why I no longer bother with 160M contests. It's long past time for scoring rules changes that cause east coast stations to want to work something besides DX. The excessive credit for DX QSOs and countries as multipliers simply does not make sense. EU from most of the east coast is only about 25% greater distance than W6, yet the W1--W6 or W1-W7 QSO counts one point and the EU QSO counts three or five, depending on the contest. The only 160M contest with reasonable scoring rules is the Stew Perry, but there's not nearly enough activity to make it much fun. Is it because the east coast guys don't like anything without their 5:1 scoring advantage? 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
On 2/25/2012 1:07 PM, chacuff wrote: Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL It was poor at best. never heard anything beyond 2000-2200 miles, except the K7 fellow in CE. I worked a few Caribbean stations running without the amp; Just not worth the effort. At the beginning of the season I had great hopes of finally making DXCC on 160 this season as I just need 5 or 6, but with condx like they have been, I am having serious doubts. It is interesting to note that stuff out in the Pacific is usually stronger than the Caribbean. 73, Mike, W5UC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 160M CONTEST SCORING
I'm with you, Bill - as a Top Band QRP operator with a limited (make LIMITED) antenna, in terms of efficiency - I'd sure like to see more SP activity as that's one contest where us QRPers can sorta enjoy it all...knowing that our weak signals might, just might, piqué the curiosity of other operators as we are worth more. Hi Hi 72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV From: ma...@isp.ca To: topband@contesting.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:01:50 -0500 Subject: Topband: 160M CONTEST SCORING Hey you guys-while you come down hard on the east coasters for looking east instead of west in the CQWW, don't forget to slam us Canookies-we get DX points for working all you fine fellas just across the border. Talk about skewed scoring! I'd love to see a lot more activity in the only level-playing field contest there is: the SP. Bill VE3CSK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 160M CONTEST SCORING
Heard you CQing 5 x 5 here in Oregon last night, Herb. I didn't have time to get into the test this weekend so I was just having a quick listen to see what was up. Can't fathom why you didn't get any answers. 73, Carl WS7L -Original Message- Gentlemen, I have been calling CQ tonight for two hours and never received a single reply.This is with a 1/4 wave vertical, and Alpha 87A and 12 Beverages in every directions. Some nights on 160 the propagation is just not there. As Kenny Rodgers used to singyou gotta know when to hold and when to fold and it looks like tonight I am folding my tent and hoping for better days ahead on TB. I just finally got through to NG4C (first contact in 2.5 hours on the band) and he spent 10 minutes repeatedly asking me for my stateunder these circumstances it is time to fold. Cheers, Herb Schoenobhm, KV4FZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: OT - KZ5 Help
If you know any of their names, or if someone who has a card from one of them can give you the name on the card, you can do a name search on qrz.com. Maybe by doing that you can come up with a current callsign and address. Good luck in your search. 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: Bob Garrett rgarre...@comcast.net To: 'Jim Monahan' k...@msn.com; 'topband' topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:05 PM Subject: Topband: OT - KZ5 Help Greetings, Please respond off list as I do not want to cause any unnecessary BW. I'm finally sorting out almost 50 years of confirmations and I am missing a QSL from KZ5. Does anyone know how to obtain a card from any of the following stations that were QRV from The Canal Zone: KZ5GV, KZ5FR, KZ5OJ, KZ5GN or KZ5VV. Thanks in advance for the help with my last confirmation. 73, Bob K3UL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
