Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Eric Tichansky

so2sdr by N4OGW:

https://github.com/n4ogw/so2sdr

Follow the compile instructions on the GIT page.  Build with QT 4 (ie. 
qmake-qt4 if you have other branches of QT installed).


I have been using it exclusively since switching the shack PC to Linux a 
couple months ago and also contribute code.  Much better than the other 
Linux contest loggers in my opinion.  It is actually quite ahead of all 
loggers in terms of SDR / bandmap integration.


73 Eric NO3M

On 12/04/2013 02:22 PM, DL4UNY - Andre wrote:

Mike,

there are several linux contest loggers.
TRlog has a linux version ( http://www.kkn.net/trlinux/ ).
Drawbacks:
* supercheckpartial doesn't work 'on the fly', you need a key shortcut
* you need a X running

tlf ( https://github.com/Tlf/tlf ) is a nice and easy-to-understand 
logging software. Configuration is a bit tricky but since you're used 
to Linux it shouldn't be a problem to you. Everything (rig control, 
keying) works without problems!


YFKtest ( http://fkurz.net/ham/yfktest.html ) is nice logging program 
as well, easy to understand. The author (DJ1YFK) helps immediately if 
there are any problems / questions.


JL ( http://www.qsl.net/w1jq/ ) is a nice contest logbook. Easy to use 
and easy to understand with all the important features.

Drawbacks:
* based on Java
* you need a X running

QLE ( http://home.kpn.nl/w.knol18/qle/qle.html ) never tested, since 
it is pretty new. But it seems to be a simple contest logger.



hth

73
DL4UNY - Andre





On 12/04/2013 07:12 PM, Mike Waters wrote:

Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
have time to fix.

How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
supports.

I'll look at the others soon.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: topband: ISON's last days

2013-12-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
I noted that, too Bruce and wondered if that could be the "bow-shock" of the
comet interacting with the solar wind?

73,
Charlie, K4OTV

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
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To: g...@ka1j.com; Topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: topband: ISON's last days

Sounds correct Gary.  As the comet approaches the sun, there seems to be
something going off the front at right angles to the direction of travel.
Anyway if oxygen starved, with the extreme temperature, could it cause
something like a small backdraft ?  a firefighters term.
Low band DX is very much controlled by our sun.

73
Bruce-K1FZ
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: topband: ISON's last days


> Just a guess but from what I remember from far too many years of
> college in a mostly unrelated subject; I'd be surprised if there's
> any oxygen in there at all, I'd think the gist of the sun is just
> plasma with Hydrogen & Helium being the food source.
>
> I am just guessing here...
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>> I started wondering if the break down of  Ison's water into Hydrogen
>> and
>> oxygen had prompted the increased sun activity. Maybe the amount is
>> too
>> small, but just how much oxygen does the sun have?
>>
>> 73
>> Bruce-K1FZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Steve" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 9:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: ISON's last days
>>
>>
>> >> Interesting NASA video - Ison rounds the sun in slow motion, then
>> >> presented in fast motion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2013/12/02/ison_anim.gif
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It almost looks like that ill-timed CME blast might have done it
>> in?
>> >
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Cromwell

On 12/04/2013 07:15 PM, w7...@juno.com wrote:

logging program? same one i started with in 1955. paper and pencil. i
went to a ball point pen for several years and found it did not help in
upping my rate.

this year i am going back to the rig i used to get VK flying doctors ball
cap. i found out that any limbing the steep "better equipment ladder" has
not increased my fun, enjoyment, or primitive animal excitement of making
each contact one bit.

yep, not one bit

mike w7dra

when was the last time i was in a contest, got up from the rig and raced
up the hill to the house and shouted "I WORKED HAWAII!!"??
to my sleeping bride


Heh Mike,

I have been logging on paper and afterward I type the stuff into a 
computer so the contest managers can have a pretty log that they can 
suck into their computers. Some of those contesters work hundreds or 
thousands of contacts ya know so that computer is kinda handy for the 
hams who have to sort it all out. I have been thinking about throwing 
all this stuff in the dumpster but maybe I'm making moves on simpler. I 
might not do all the same things as you ('specially not waking up my 
sleeping bride!) but it probably doesn't include typing on a computer 
while I'm twisting dials and knobs.


I found out the graphite in a pencil is a better lubricant than the ink 
on the ball bearing in a pen. It seems like it should be just the other 
way around. But I nearly started a fire in the shack using a ball point 
pen on paper (it's flammable ya know).


I have three transmitters with 160 meters on the bandswitch and not a 
darn one is usable at the moment. Can you spell o-l-d? I might get one 
up by the weekend but I stand a better chance of getting back on 160 by 
the time we have the Stew. Maybe it's just time to make a new 
transmitter and one without a derned bandswitch.


73,

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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread w7dra
logging program? same one i started with in 1955. paper and pencil. i
went to a ball point pen for several years and found it did not help in
upping my rate.

this year i am going back to the rig i used to get VK flying doctors ball
cap. i found out that any limbing the steep "better equipment ladder" has
not increased my fun, enjoyment, or primitive animal excitement of making
each contact one bit.

yep, not one bit

mike w7dra

when was the last time i was in a contest, got up from the rig and raced
up the hill to the house and shouted "I WORKED HAWAII!!"??
to my sleeping bride



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Re: Topband: Power Line Noise Help Needed

2013-12-04 Thread Tom W8JI

Rocks, MD could you please let me know if you have strong power line
noise in the frequency range of 1800-3600 KHZ.  Use AM mode to listen
for it.  I would like to report these findings to the power company to
assist in their search.  Thanks -Joe n3Hee



I don't know if this will help, but if the noise is frequency selective and 
diminishes rapidly outside of that range it almost certainly will be a 
consumer device or industrial device of some type. Some of the satellite TV 
services have some particularly bad recorders/receivers that wipe out from 
the AM BCB up and then abruptly cut off. The noise sounds exactly like power 
line noise except for bandwidth. That noise can go for miles.


What is the characteristic of the noise?


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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Merv Schweigert

N3FJP  for super simple easy 5 min learning curve for the Stew Perry,  works
for me a 69 year old fart.

73 Merv K9FD/KH6


Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
have time to fix.

How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
supports.

I'll look at the others soon.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Shoppa, Tim
I have extensively used N1MM inside a "Virtualbox" VM emulator on Linux.

I don't think it'll ever work in Wine.

I heartily recommend N1MM.

Tim N3QE

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From: Pete Smith N4ZR [mailto:n...@contesting.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 05:12 PM
To: topband@contesting.com 
Subject: Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

It would make sense to raise this on n1mmlog...@yahoogroups.com.  For 
that matter, a quick search will find a number of recent threads on 
exactly this topic.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
http://reversebeacon.net,
blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 12/4/2013 1:12 PM, Mike Waters wrote:
> Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
> install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
> run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
> with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
> have time to fix.
>
> How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
> http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
> supports.
>
> I'll look at the others soon.
>
> 73, Mike
> www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Pat Whelton

If you want easy to learn, look elsewhere.  For example, N3FJP.

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I have to whole heartedly agree with Rick.  You can beat ACLog contest 
modules by N3FJP.


Regards,

Pat - KZ5J 


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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
It would make sense to raise this on n1mmlog...@yahoogroups.com.  For 
that matter, a quick search will find a number of recent threads on 
exactly this topic.


73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
http://reversebeacon.net,
blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 12/4/2013 1:12 PM, Mike Waters wrote:

Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
have time to fix.

How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
supports.

I'll look at the others soon.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: Fw: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Mike Waters
I just tried CT again under dosemu. Does anyone know why Alt-H brings up a
totally blank help screen? Maybe it can't find a file, but there's no error
message, just a blank red area on the right.

The last logger I tried this afternoon (trlog, IIRC) thinks that the drive
is a network drive for some reason.

I'll probably try tlf later.

Thank you, Larry. So that's why N1MM didn't work, it needs MS Access. I'll
probably try it when it supports another db.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Larry Gauthier (K8UT) wrote:

> Bill and Mike
>
> You might be aware that the N1MM Logger dev team is busy building the next
> generation of the logging program. Still Windows-based but abandons the
> Microsoft Access database and its Jet engine in favor of SQLite databases.
> Given the unix heritage of SQLite I'll be very interested in seeing whether
> your ubuntu/WINE architectures will run N1MM Logger Plus.
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread N1BUG
Since we haven't yet been asked to cease with this thread I'll throw 
my oar in the water. I know I will never "win" any contests with my 
station. Nevertheless I often enter with the intent of getting every 
contact I possibly can. It's not so much about competing, even with 
my own past efforts, as it is sharpening my operating skills. 
Improving my skills is a very powerful motivation. I find a major 
improvement during every contest I operate, and the faster I can run 
stations the greater the overall improvement. Hence, even though I 
know I won't be a winning contester, I want the best rate optimizing 
tools I can get.


I've been using N1MM for several years. I am often a bit 
"challenged" getting new software set up but I found this one 
relatively painless.


73,
Paul N1BUG
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Gary Smith
Interesting this topic came up right now, it does look like I'll be 
able to participate at least a little this weekend so I just set N1MM 
up for this contest and am now ready to go. I'll finish checking all 
the connections at the antenna tomorrow & I'll likely be 160 ready 
for this season. I'll never win #1 either but I do find I make more 
Qs in a given period during a contest with N1MM and I like that more 
than "winning" so for that goal, I'll keep using N1MM. 

FWIW, I use Logic9 for my usual logging software and there are ready 
built contest modes for about all the major contests and you can 
configure it to work with a new one. I like how it keeps track of all 
of my awards databases at the same time it does contesting but that 
said, I now use N1MM because it's designed to be up-to-date and a one 
trick pony who does the contesting trick to perfection. I just import 
the adif from N1MM into Logic9 and then update Logic's awards info 
and it's good to go.

N1MM does a really nice Cabrillo report, always goes right through 
with no issues.

Gary
KA1J

> Thanks Andre,
> 
> Even though I'm not a *real* contester I'll try those. Maybe a
> little 
> less work prepping an electronic log submission. That part would be
> nice.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bill  KU8H


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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Eddy Swynar

On 2013-12-04, at 3:21 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

> 
> Even though I'm not a *real* contester I'll try those. Maybe a little less 
> work prepping an electronic log submission. That part would be nice.
> 


Hi Bill,

I'm like you: try as I might (and I really & truly did try, too---ONCE!), I 
simply can NOT "marry" a computer with my Ham shack here.

I use "SD" strictly for post-contest Cabrillo log generation. PERIOD.

No, I will NEVER EVER win any contests with this mind set---but then again, 
neither do I care. I just like to get on, make some contacts, & when the 
enthusiasm flags, retire to other things to do. Leave the rabid dog-fighting 
for the serious types, who deserve to win anyway by keeping abreast of all of 
the "...latest & the greatest". And more power to 'em, too!

~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ

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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Cromwell

On 12/04/2013 02:22 PM, DL4UNY - Andre wrote:

Mike,

there are several linux contest loggers.
TRlog has a linux version ( http://www.kkn.net/trlinux/ ).
Drawbacks:
* supercheckpartial doesn't work 'on the fly', you need a key shortcut
* you need a X running

tlf ( https://github.com/Tlf/tlf ) is a nice and easy-to-understand 
logging software. Configuration is a bit tricky but since you're used 
to Linux it shouldn't be a problem to you. Everything (rig control, 
keying) works without problems!


YFKtest ( http://fkurz.net/ham/yfktest.html ) is nice logging program 
as well, easy to understand. The author (DJ1YFK) helps immediately if 
there are any problems / questions.


JL ( http://www.qsl.net/w1jq/ ) is a nice contest logbook. Easy to use 
and easy to understand with all the important features.

Drawbacks:
* based on Java
* you need a X running

QLE ( http://home.kpn.nl/w.knol18/qle/qle.html ) never tested, since 
it is pretty new. But it seems to be a simple contest logger.



hth

73
DL4UNY - Andre


Thanks Andre,

Even though I'm not a *real* contester I'll try those. Maybe a little 
less work prepping an electronic log submission. That part would be nice.


73,

Bill  KU8H
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Cromwell

On 12/04/2013 01:12 PM, Mike Waters wrote:

Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
have time to fix.

How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
supports.

I'll look at the others soon.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com



N1MM doesn't run in WINE on my Linux computers, either. I'm using paper 
at the moment. It always works the way you want and you don't have to 
reboot it . As for serious contesters...I ain't ever going to 
win one because I don't care enough. I get into some of them for a 
little while, give up some QSOs (being generous with that Q signal) and 
then go find something else to do. Paper works fine for me. Professional 
contesters will have to continue the hunt for logging programs that work 
other than in Windows if thats what they want.


73,

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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Kostas SV1DPI
I will add to the list of simple, powerful and free contest loggers, the 
DXLOG. Very similar to wintest, ct and n6tr. Supports many many contests 
(much more than wintest)

See www.dxlog.net for details...

73 Kostas SV1DPI



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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread DL4UNY - Andre

Mike,

there are several linux contest loggers.
TRlog has a linux version ( http://www.kkn.net/trlinux/ ).
Drawbacks:
* supercheckpartial doesn't work 'on the fly', you need a key shortcut
* you need a X running

tlf ( https://github.com/Tlf/tlf ) is a nice and easy-to-understand 
logging software. Configuration is a bit tricky but since you're used to 
Linux it shouldn't be a problem to you. Everything (rig control, keying) 
works without problems!


YFKtest ( http://fkurz.net/ham/yfktest.html ) is nice logging program as 
well, easy to understand. The author (DJ1YFK) helps immediately if there 
are any problems / questions.


JL ( http://www.qsl.net/w1jq/ ) is a nice contest logbook. Easy to use 
and easy to understand with all the important features.

Drawbacks:
* based on Java
* you need a X running

QLE ( http://home.kpn.nl/w.knol18/qle/qle.html ) never tested, since it 
is pretty new. But it seems to be a simple contest logger.



hth

73
DL4UNY - Andre





On 12/04/2013 07:12 PM, Mike Waters wrote:

Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
have time to fix.

How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
supports.

I'll look at the others soon.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Mike Waters
I'm going to try CT and tlf first, based on a couple of private replies.
https://github.com/Tlf/tlf

BTW, if anyone is interested in my Pascal contesting programs source code,
it's at
http://www.w0btu.com/files/misc/software/HAMTRON1/SOURCE/ .

Once you get it working (good luck), it's very fast, and almost no learning
curve. Just a few keystrokes runs it. The compiled .com programs are not
quite ready to use, but they demo it well.

Thanks again to everyone! Other recommendations are still welcome. I need
to get back to work here for now.

73, Mike
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Ashton Lee
I was able to install N1MM the day I received my General and play around in the 
California QSO Party… can’t be that hard if I managed it on day one.

Years later I am still finding additional features however.

But getting it to connect to the radio and log contacts is as easy as any other 
program.


On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:45 AM, Richard Karlquist  wrote:

> On 2013-12-04 08:25, Gary Smith wrote:
>> I agree with Doug on N1MM. Do follow the instructions on the download
>> page to install the program first and then the most recent update.
>> Then once it's running and you've filled in the station info, under
>> the tools tab you'll find some other downloads available & download
>> them. You'll find there's a bit of a curve to using it but it's so
>> easy to use you'll really appreciate it. Tab to select & scroll,
> 
> If N1MM was truly easy to learn, it wouldn't need the above disclaimer.
> I've used N1MM for years.  My opinion (YMMV):
> 
> Is it easy to install, configure and learn.  No.
> Is it easy to use?  No.
> Is it well documented?  No.
> Is it intuitive?  No.
> 
> It is a serious program for the serious contester
> who is willing to invest the time and effort in it.
> 
> It does have the advantage of being free, but unfortunately, your time isn't 
> free.
> 
> If you want easy to learn, look elsewhere.  For example, N3FJP.
> 
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Mike Waters
Thanks for all the recommendations for N1MM, but I am just unable to
install it on my shack's Linux computer. Under WINE, I get a database
run-time error after I do the latest update. And there's something wrong
with my Virtualbox Windows XP installation on that machine that I don't
have time to fix.

How about Trlog for DOS? There is NO price or purchase info at
http://www.trlog.com, nor does it say what contests the free version
supports.

I'll look at the others soon.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: FCC Notice of Proposed Rulemaking: Revitalization of the AM Radio Service

2013-12-04 Thread Richard Karlquist

http://media.npr.org/assets/news/2013/fcc.pdf


This seems to be mainly about minority owned stations,
while nothing is being done about RFI.


Rick Karlquist
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Joe
Mike, 

N1MM is a very nice and powerful contest logger that will do the
contests you are interested in and many more. It is well documented and
relatively easy to get the basics working without a steep learning
curve. It also has many other powerful features once you learn the
program a little deeper.

I find it most powerful when using rig control with my K3.  Your fingers
never leave the keyboard and you can quickly run or S&P lots of QSO's
that way.  I cant imagine operating a contest without it.

Install it today and get familiar with it before the weekend.  

Regards, 

Joe 
n3Hee
ex-kb3kjs


On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 09:55 -0600, Mike Waters wrote:
> I know, it's a little late to be asking this, but does anyone have any
> suggestions for a free, simple logging program that will work for the ARRL
> 160 this weekend? It would be nice if it also worked for the Stew Perry at
> the end of the month?
> 
> I don't care about rig control or anything like that. Just logging and dupe
> checking.
> 
> I just tried CT for DOS (ran it in a DOS emulator in Linux), but it looks
> like it has a learning curve. And besides, its seems that you have to enter
> the call AND grid before it reports a dupe.
> 
> I was going to modify an old DOS Pascal logging program I wrote years ago,
> but that wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be. The Turbo Pascal 3
> compiler floppy seems bad, and the Pascal code won't run under newer
> version of any Pascal IDE I tried.
> 
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> 
> 73, Mike
> www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Richard Karlquist

On 2013-12-04 08:25, Gary Smith wrote:

I agree with Doug on N1MM. Do follow the instructions on the download
page to install the program first and then the most recent update.
Then once it's running and you've filled in the station info, under
the tools tab you'll find some other downloads available & download
them. You'll find there's a bit of a curve to using it but it's so
easy to use you'll really appreciate it. Tab to select & scroll,


If N1MM was truly easy to learn, it wouldn't need the above disclaimer.
I've used N1MM for years.  My opinion (YMMV):

Is it easy to install, configure and learn.  No.
Is it easy to use?  No.
Is it well documented?  No.
Is it intuitive?  No.

It is a serious program for the serious contester
who is willing to invest the time and effort in it.

It does have the advantage of being free, but unfortunately, your time 
isn't free.


If you want easy to learn, look elsewhere.  For example, N3FJP.

Rick N6RK
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Eddy Swynar

On 2013-12-04, at 10:55 AM, Mike Waters wrote:

> I know, it's a little late to be asking this, but does anyone have any
> suggestions for a free, simple logging program that will work for the ARRL
> 160 this weekend? It would be nice if it also worked for the Stew Perry at
> the end of the month?
> 
> I don't care about rig control or anything like that. Just logging and dupe
> checking.
> 
> I just tried CT for DOS (ran it in a DOS emulator in Linux), but it looks
> like it has a learning curve. And besides, its seems that you have to enter
> the call AND grid before it reports a dupe.
> 
> I was going to modify an old DOS Pascal logging program I wrote years ago,
> but that wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be. The Turbo Pascal 3
> compiler floppy seems bad, and the Pascal code won't run under newer
> version of any Pascal IDE I tried.
> 
> Any advice would be appreciated.
> 
> 73, Mike
> www.w0btu.com



Hi Mike,

I am FAR from being ANY sort of a "computer friendly" kind of a guy, believe 
me...!

But I have found "SD"---by EI5DI---to be THE easiest computer logging programme 
to use:

http://www.ei5di.com/

Newer versions will cost you, but the older ones (which I believe you can still 
download) are free...and I have used them successfully many times in the past 
for a number of 160-meter contests...

Good luck, & vy

~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Gary Smith
I agree with Doug on N1MM. Do follow the instructions on the download 
page to install the program first and then the most recent update. 
Then once it's running and you've filled in the station info, under 
the tools tab you'll find some other downloads available & download 
them. You'll find there's a bit of a curve to using it but it's so 
easy to use you'll really appreciate it. Tab to select & scroll, 
enter to log the Q. I'm still not sure how to best utilize it with my 
K3 but that's just me...

Gary
KA1J

> N1MM
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Waters" 
> To: "topband" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:55 AM
> Subject: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?
> 
> 
> >I know, it's a little late to be asking this, but does anyone have
> any
> > suggestions for a free, simple logging program that will work for
> the ARRL
> > 160 this weekend? It would be nice if it also worked for the Stew
> Perry at
> > the end of the month?
> >
> > I don't care about rig control or anything like that. Just logging
> and 
> > dupe
> > checking.
> >
> > I just tried CT for DOS (ran it in a DOS emulator in Linux), but
> it looks
> > like it has a learning curve. And besides, its seems that you have
> to 
> > enter
> > the call AND grid before it reports a dupe.
> >
> > I was going to modify an old DOS Pascal logging program I wrote
> years ago,
> > but that wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be. The Turbo
> Pascal 
> > 3
> > compiler floppy seems bad, and the Pascal code won't run under
> newer
> > version of any Pascal IDE I tried.
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
> >
> > 73, Mike
> > www.w0btu.com
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> > 
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Topband: FCC Notice of Proposed Rulemaking: Revitalization of the AM Radio Service

2013-12-04 Thread donovanf
There may be some interest among topbanders in this NPRM attempting to 
revitalize our neighboring spectrum user. 

http://media.npr.org/assets/news/2013/fcc.pdf 

73 
Frank 
W3LPL 
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Re: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Doug Scribner

N1MM


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Waters" 

To: "topband" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?



I know, it's a little late to be asking this, but does anyone have any
suggestions for a free, simple logging program that will work for the ARRL
160 this weekend? It would be nice if it also worked for the Stew Perry at
the end of the month?

I don't care about rig control or anything like that. Just logging and 
dupe

checking.

I just tried CT for DOS (ran it in a DOS emulator in Linux), but it looks
like it has a learning curve. And besides, its seems that you have to 
enter

the call AND grid before it reports a dupe.

I was going to modify an old DOS Pascal logging program I wrote years ago,
but that wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be. The Turbo Pascal 
3

compiler floppy seems bad, and the Pascal code won't run under newer
version of any Pascal IDE I tried.

Any advice would be appreciated.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Topband: Easy-to-learn 160 contest logging program?

2013-12-04 Thread Mike Waters
I know, it's a little late to be asking this, but does anyone have any
suggestions for a free, simple logging program that will work for the ARRL
160 this weekend? It would be nice if it also worked for the Stew Perry at
the end of the month?

I don't care about rig control or anything like that. Just logging and dupe
checking.

I just tried CT for DOS (ran it in a DOS emulator in Linux), but it looks
like it has a learning curve. And besides, its seems that you have to enter
the call AND grid before it reports a dupe.

I was going to modify an old DOS Pascal logging program I wrote years ago,
but that wasn't as easy as I thought it was going to be. The Turbo Pascal 3
compiler floppy seems bad, and the Pascal code won't run under newer
version of any Pascal IDE I tried.

Any advice would be appreciated.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Topband: Power Line Noise Help Needed

2013-12-04 Thread Joe
I am currently working with the Potomac Edison power company to locate
the source of strong power line noise in Point of Rocks, MD (FM19fg)
Tech has been to my QTH and has taken samples of the noise using his RFI
locater.  He has been driving the area over the past day or so.  The
noise is 20DB over S9 and seems to come from the East - South East
according to my RX array and mag loop.  If you live close to Point of
Rocks, MD could you please let me know if you have strong power line
noise in the frequency range of 1800-3600 KHZ.  Use AM mode to listen
for it.  I would like to report these findings to the power company to
assist in their search.  Thanks -Joe n3Hee

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