Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread Gary K9GS
Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage 
antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are not 
optimized Beverages by any means.


Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing fancy.

My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the 
Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio. 
I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured 
them.  I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss.


Thoughts?

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73,

Gary K9GS

Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org
Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
CW Ops #1032   http://www.cwops.org



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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread K4RO Kirk Pickering
I've used a video selector box (for 75 ohm RF, with F connectors) that 
Radio Shack used to sell. It was a 4-in 2-out matrix, and allowed either 
of two radios to have any of the 4 available antennas. It also allowed 
two radios to share an antenna simultaneously. I doubt R/S still sells 
it, but there might be something available from MCM or the like.


Kirk K4RO


On 3/13/2014 8:13 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:

Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage
antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are not
optimized Beverages by any means.

Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing fancy.

My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the
Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio.
I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured
them.  I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss.

Thoughts?


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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread Charlie Cunningham
That should work fine, Gary!  You would have around 3 dB loss in a two-way
splitter + a SMALL amount of mismatch-loss for the 50-75 ohm mismatch. I
would expect that if your radio will work with the beverage signal, you
won't likely need the preamp to make up for tha very modest loss from the
splitter and the 75-50 ohm mismatch!  Should work fine!

73,
Charlie, K4OTV

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:14 PM
To: Topband Mailing List
Subject: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage
antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are not
optimized Beverages by any means.

Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing fancy.

My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the
Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio. 
I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured them.
I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss.

Thoughts?

-- 


73,

Gary K9GS

Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest
Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
CW Ops #1032   http://www.cwops.org



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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread Charlie Cunningham
One word of caution, Gary, if the CATV splitter is a transformer type,
rather than resistive it may of have enough low-frequency response for 160
m!  Check around with RS and your local electronics stores for 50 ohm 2-way
splitters. Those are generally resistive and have frequency response from DC
up to a GHz or so.  Some of the TV stuff is transformer coupled.

73,
Charlie, K4OTV

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary K9GS
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:14 PM
To: Topband Mailing List
Subject: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage
antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are not
optimized Beverages by any means.

Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing fancy.

My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the
Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio. 
I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured them.
I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss.

Thoughts?

-- 


73,

Gary K9GS

Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest
Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
CW Ops #1032   http://www.cwops.org



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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


I use a couple of old CATV splitters for general purposes around here
and can't measure any excess (more than 3 - 4 dB) loss from common to
either port.

If you want a known good design to build some of your own, try:
   http://cliftonlaboratories.com/z10050a_3_db_hybrid.htm

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/13/2014 9:13 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:

Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage
antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are not
optimized Beverages by any means.

Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing fancy.

My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the
Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio.
I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured
them.  I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss.

Thoughts?


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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread n0tt1
You might find this of interest, the magic-t combiner/splitter:

http://www.w8ji.com/combiner_and_splitters.htm

73,
Charlie, N0TT

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:13:44 -0500 Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com writes:
 Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage 
 
 antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are 
 not 
 optimized Beverages by any means.
 
 Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing 
 fancy.
 
 My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of 
 the 
 Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each 
 radio. 
 I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not 
 measured 
 them.  I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the 
 loss.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 -- 
 
 
 73,
 
 Gary K9GS
 
 Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org
 Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
 CW Ops #1032   http://www.cwops.org
 
 
 
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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread donovanf
Hi Gary, 

The most efficient way to share a Beverage among two (or as many as four) 
bands to use W3LPL bandpass filters. Loss of each filter is in the order 
of 1.5 dB vs. about 3.5 dB for a typical Magic-T combiner/splitter. 

http://www.k1ttt.net/technote/w3lplfil.html 

Just connect the inputs of both filters to the Beverage antenna and the output 
of 
each filter to each radio. The reason this works so well is that the impedance 
of the filters is very high outside their pass bands. 

I have dozens of these filters in my station; they're inexpensive, very 
effective 
and easy to build. 

73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

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From: Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com 
To: Topband Mailing List topband@contesting.com 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:13:44 AM 
Subject: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter 

Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage 
antenna between two receivers? This is for Field Day so these are not 
optimized Beverages by any means. 

Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas. Nothing fancy. 

My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the 
Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio. 
I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured 
them. I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss. 

Thoughts? 

-- 


73, 

Gary K9GS 

Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org 
Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com 
CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org 

 

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Re: Topband: Passive Receive Antenna Splitter

2014-03-13 Thread Tony Magon
Hi

This may be of interest

http://www.dxing.info/equipment/rolling_your_own_bryant.dx

73

Tony VK2IC


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 Can anyone point me to a design for a splitter for sharing a Beverage
 antenna between two receivers?  This is for Field Day so these are not
 optimized Beverages by any means.

 Just want to allow the 80/40M stations to share antennas.  Nothing fancy.

 My thoughts are to just use a CATV 2-Way splitter at the output of the
 Beverage matching transformer and run separate feed-lines to each radio.
 I'm pretty sure these things work down to 1 MHz but have not measured them.
  I can use the pre-amp in the radio (K3) to compensate for the loss.

 Thoughts?

 --


 73,

 Gary K9GS

 Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org
 Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
 CW Ops #1032   http://www.cwops.org

 

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