Re: Topband: Yikes
Tonight K6MM told the NCDXC that LOTW is a few months down the road. Garry, NI6T On 2/19/2015 6:08 PM, Larry via Topband wrote: Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW? i wonder if those who kindly contributed to the expedition will have to pay for their cards? larry n7dd -Original Message- From: Doug Renwick To: topband Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 1:47 am Subject: Topband: Yikes K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
Let’s see. You likely have thousands if not tens of thousands invested in gear and antennas. You have a computer and a monthly ISP bill. And a monthly electric bill. These guys unselfishly invested their own time and a lot more than $6 each to give you the joy of an ATNO and band/mode slots. Did you donate to the project ahead of time? Do you donate to Clublog that has substantial costs but does not require you to join and that allows you to request your card via the bureau for free? Are you “thirfty” out of financial necessity? OK. You’ll get your card and LOTW eventually. Or is it just out of habit? So why even bring it up? Sympathy is in the dictionary between two words I won't repeat here. Steve WB6RSE _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
It's a near miracle they finally got the permission to go. And then it cost an actual fortune to fund, even though it was relatively close. For the value that QSL represents, it's cheap at many times the OQRS price. 73/jeff/ac0c www.ac0c.com alpha-charlie-zero-charlie -Original Message- From: Tom Haavisto Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:36 PM To: Buzz Jehle Cc: TopBand List ; Doug Renwick Subject: Re: Topband: Yikes Hi Buzz I guess I am confused. K1N had significant expenses, and expecting the operators to cover all the costs - including QSLing does not seem right. Despite that, they are offering a low cost way for folks to obtain a QSL card. I think we both realize that is just the way it is. From the complaints so far, it does not seem to be the donors who are complaining. Yes - I made an up front donation, and I was very happy to do so to help make K1N happen. I also realize that does not fit into everyones budget. At this point, it is MY choice to send an SASE to obtain a QSL card, or to use OQRS for a faster turn around. Or - to not bother getting a QSL card at all, and just going with LOTW. I for one, am thrilled K1N happened, and it was a huge success. Yes - some folks went away empty handed, despite their best efforts. No one said there would be any guarantees up front... Please don't cry on behalf of the folks who donated to this operation. They did so with full knowledge there would be no guarantees of a QSO or QSL card after the fact. Please let everyone decide - for themselves - if they should use OQRS, LOTW, or any of the other options being offered to obtain a K1N confirmation. In closing - I would also like to point out that K1N is far from unique in the significant costs department. Several past expeditions, and many more going forward - also face significant costs. Just keep that in mind when looking for a confirmation. If you can help them - great. If not - don't cry for those that do. Tom - VE3CX On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Buzz Jehle wrote: When OQRS came up a couple of days ago it was $2 and they took it down and changed it to $6, a new high and low in Ham Radio as far as I am concerned. No consideration to donors is being made either it seems. Buzz N5UR On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:46 AM, Doug Renwick wrote: K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
Hi Buzz I guess I am confused. K1N had significant expenses, and expecting the operators to cover all the costs - including QSLing does not seem right. Despite that, they are offering a low cost way for folks to obtain a QSL card. I think we both realize that is just the way it is. >From the complaints so far, it does not seem to be the donors who are complaining. Yes - I made an up front donation, and I was very happy to do so to help make K1N happen. I also realize that does not fit into everyones budget. At this point, it is MY choice to send an SASE to obtain a QSL card, or to use OQRS for a faster turn around. Or - to not bother getting a QSL card at all, and just going with LOTW. I for one, am thrilled K1N happened, and it was a huge success. Yes - some folks went away empty handed, despite their best efforts. No one said there would be any guarantees up front... Please don't cry on behalf of the folks who donated to this operation. They did so with full knowledge there would be no guarantees of a QSO or QSL card after the fact. Please let everyone decide - for themselves - if they should use OQRS, LOTW, or any of the other options being offered to obtain a K1N confirmation. In closing - I would also like to point out that K1N is far from unique in the significant costs department. Several past expeditions, and many more going forward - also face significant costs. Just keep that in mind when looking for a confirmation. If you can help them - great. If not - don't cry for those that do. Tom - VE3CX On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Buzz Jehle wrote: > When OQRS came up a couple of days ago it was $2 and they took it down and > changed it to $6, a new high and low in Ham Radio as far as I am > concerned. No consideration to donors is being made either it seems. > > Buzz N5UR > > > > On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:46 AM, Doug Renwick wrote: > > K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the > most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! > > Doug > > "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could > believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
Amen!! A bargain and I made a donation on top of that. Happy to get last one on mixed DXCC!! In a message dated 2/19/2015 9:23:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, w...@sbcglobal.net writes: A bargain at twice the price. Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:47 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Yikes K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
When OQRS came up a couple of days ago it was $2 and they took it down and changed it to $6, a new high and low in Ham Radio as far as I am concerned. No consideration to donors is being made either it seems. Buzz N5UR On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:46 AM, Doug Renwick wrote: K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
The K1N website says... QSL via N2OO: Navassa 2015 DXpedition c/o Bob N2OO PO Box 345 Tuckerton NJ 08087 "QSL methods: U.S.A. Direct: Minimum S.A.S.E. (Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope) World Direct: S.A.E. (Self-Addressed Envelope) plus minimum $2 or 1 IRC OQRS Direct and bureau: via CLUBLOG Regular Bureau: via N2OO c/o the W2 QSL Bureau LOTW: Sooner rather than later." 73 Dave NZ3M On 2/19/2015 8:46 PM, Doug Renwick wrote: K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
Their website shows the various ways to get a card. The $6 fee is for ClubLog, which is very convienient. QSL methods: U.S.A. Direct: Minimum S.A.S.E. (Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope) World Direct: S.A.E. (Self-Addressed Envelope) plus minimum $2 or 1 IRC OQRS Direct and bureau: via CLUBLOG Regular Bureau: via N2OO c/o the W2 QSL Bureau LOTW: Sooner rather than later. - Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry via Topband Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:08 PM To: ve...@sasktel.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Yikes Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW? i wonder if those who kindly contributed to the expedition will have to pay for their cards? larry n7dd -Original Message- From: Doug Renwick To: topband Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 1:47 am Subject: Topband: Yikes K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
Yes - they will be uploading to lotw for free. You can get your QSL for the price of an SASE if you are not wanting to use the OQRS system (for USA hams). End of thread please. Tree N6TR On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Larry Burke wrote: > A bargain at twice the price. > > Larry K5RK > > -Original Message- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug > Renwick > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:47 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: Yikes > > K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the > most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! > > Doug > > "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could > believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: flag matching transformer ferrite material
I have a flag rx antenna that is working well on 160 mtrs. I would like to try to use it on 630 mtrs. The current matching transformer is 3:12 turns on a BN-73-302 core. I assume more impedance will be needed for good performance on 630 mtrs. I did not find core specs on the FairRite site for frequencies below 1 mHz for 73 material. Is 73 material the best choice for a transformer to be used on both 630 and 160 mtrs? Would twice as many turns be sufficient for 630 mtrs, i.e. 6:24 turns on one BN-73-core, or 3:12 turns on 4 BN-73-302 cores, or 3:12 turns on 2 BN-73-6802 cores (which have twice the mu)? Also, is the 73 material still suitable for a broadband transformer up to 30 mHz? I am using 2:2 bifilar turns on a BN-73-302 core as a 1.8 to 30 mHz broadband 1:1 transformer in a receiver. A test shows good swr over this freq range, but I do not know if the loss is low at 30 mHz. Thanks for the help. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
A bargain at twice the price. Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:47 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Yikes K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
On Thu,2/19/2015 6:08 PM, Larry via Topband wrote: Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW? Did you happen to see on their website what it cost them to BE there? 73, Jim K9YC _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Yikes
Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW? i wonder if those who kindly contributed to the expedition will have to pay for their cards? larry n7dd -Original Message- From: Doug Renwick To: topband Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 1:47 am Subject: Topband: Yikes K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: Yikes
K1N club log is now up. First QSO costs $6.00 USD. That's got to be the most expensive I have seen. Anyone top that one. I am not complaining! Doug "There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could believe them." - George Orwell, 1984 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX
At 0500z the op started working NA. Many of us worked him then. He was a good 579 from 0300z working EU until at least 0510z when I shut the rig down. They seem to up load the logs to Clublog often. Glad to get a new one on 160m! Ray, N6VR On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Nodir Tursun-Zade wrote: > Band was really nice last night. Worked TI9 from balck hole Asia location. > Before this I was able to log few US stations. First time after 2013 > opennings. > > Navassa K1N was audible almost daily on my SR peak. But KP1 has way better > heading than polar TI9 and US. > > > Condx got better. > > > Regards, > > Nodir Tursun-Zade > EY8MM > > > TI9 had a super signal on 160 last nite, before my sunset he was 579 and >> peaked over >> 599 at sunset, of course EU only, and he was working them at a good >> clip. Good to see >> > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX
Band was really nice last night. Worked TI9 from balck hole Asia location. Before this I was able to log few US stations. First time after 2013 opennings. Navassa K1N was audible almost daily on my SR peak. But KP1 has way better heading than polar TI9 and US. Condx got better. Regards, Nodir Tursun-Zade EY8MM TI9 had a super signal on 160 last nite, before my sunset he was 579 and peaked over 599 at sunset, of course EU only, and he was working them at a good clip. Good to see _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX
TI9 had a super signal on 160 last nite, before my sunset he was 579 and peaked over 599 at sunset, of course EU only, and he was working them at a good clip. Good to see conditions were good. After sunset his signals started dropping, he went to US about 0500? I made it through the pile up on a QSB peak at 0511Z one or two contacts later he went QRX, dont know if he came back to the band or not, Nice to log a new one for the season. 73 Merv K9FD/KH6 Conditions to EU on 160M last night were just superb. Might be best to just let TI9 work EU given these conditions. This AM before I went to work (1100Z), I got them on 160M CW. They weren't loud but were peaking up above the noise quite often. I have listened for them when spotted on phone on the high bands and found nothing but kc cops. Tim N3QE On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, K1FZ-Bruce wrote: Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine (northern New England). Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8 1530 hours UTC. Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of hours, but "no cigar". Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas ? 73 Bruce-K1FZ Flag antenna info www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX
Email Dom 3Z9DX. I had a log problem and he answered me immediately. I am sure they are open to suggestions if asked nicely. Mike W0MU On 2/19/2015 9:35 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: Conditions to EU on 160M last night were just superb. Might be best to just let TI9 work EU given these conditions. This AM before I went to work (1100Z), I got them on 160M CW. They weren't loud but were peaking up above the noise quite often. I have listened for them when spotted on phone on the high bands and found nothing but kc cops. Tim N3QE On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, K1FZ-Bruce wrote: Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine (northern New England). Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8 1530 hours UTC. Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of hours, but "no cigar". Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas ? 73 Bruce-K1FZ Flag antenna info www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX
Conditions to EU on 160M last night were just superb. Might be best to just let TI9 work EU given these conditions. This AM before I went to work (1100Z), I got them on 160M CW. They weren't loud but were peaking up above the noise quite often. I have listened for them when spotted on phone on the high bands and found nothing but kc cops. Tim N3QE On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, K1FZ-Bruce wrote: > > Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine > (northern New England). > Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8 1530 hours UTC. > Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of > hours, but "no cigar". > Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas > ? > > 73 > Bruce-K1FZ > Flag antenna info www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: TI9/3Z9DX
Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine (northern New England). Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8 1530 hours UTC. Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of hours, but "no cigar". Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas ? 73 Bruce-K1FZ Flag antenna info www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
And how about the clown last night, around 10pm his local time, when TI9/3Z9DX was working EU, who got on his frequency and said, "NA NA NA, I'm tired and need my sleep." I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. 73, Ken - K4XL On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:18 AM, GALE STEWARD via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: > Exactly the point, Steve! A bunch of the guys around here worked them on > 160 at 0800Z (that's 3AM here). My 160 QSO was around 1030Z. > I'm really dating myself but "back in the day" the only way to snag some > new ones on 80/160 was to be checking the bands in the middle of the night. > No internet cluster, etc. It's actually a lot easier these days (my > opinion). > > When my daughter was an infant this was easier as I was usually up in the > middle of the night at least once! > 73, Stew K3ND > > From: Steve Flood > To: topband@contesting.com > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:25 AM > Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M > > Great points Chet. > > Under the "Be there" category, consider getting up in the middle of the > night to work them on the low bands. Even in the first days of their > operation, I got up at 2 a.m. and worked them easily on 160-80-40 with 100 > watts and no pileups. > > Steve KK7UV > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > -- Ken - K4XL BoatAnchor Manual Archive BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com "Show me a politician who is poor, and I'll show you a poor politician." - Carlos Hank González _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Exactly the point, Steve! A bunch of the guys around here worked them on 160 at 0800Z (that's 3AM here). My 160 QSO was around 1030Z. I'm really dating myself but "back in the day" the only way to snag some new ones on 80/160 was to be checking the bands in the middle of the night. No internet cluster, etc. It's actually a lot easier these days (my opinion). When my daughter was an infant this was easier as I was usually up in the middle of the night at least once! 73, Stew K3ND From: Steve Flood To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:25 AM Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M Great points Chet. Under the "Be there" category, consider getting up in the middle of the night to work them on the low bands. Even in the first days of their operation, I got up at 2 a.m. and worked them easily on 160-80-40 with 100 watts and no pileups. Steve KK7UV --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
Great points Chet. Under the "Be there" category, consider getting up in the middle of the night to work them on the low bands. Even in the first days of their operation, I got up at 2 a.m. and worked them easily on 160-80-40 with 100 watts and no pileups. Steve KK7UV --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
