Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Mark K3MSB]

Both the original and remake are great flicks!

73 Mark K3MSB

On Dec 6, 2016 1:55 PM, "ersmar"  wrote:

It's a Coke bottle on a Morse key and flapping window blind in San
Francisco.  (For you youg'uns, check out On the Beach on Netflix.)

73 de
Gene Smar AD3F

 Original message 
From: Don Kirk 
Date: 12/06/2016  1:17 AM  (GMT-05:00)
To: topband 
Subject: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate approximately
20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal and
heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
near Indianapolis).

Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.

Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.

At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.

Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Jeff Kincaid]

Reminds me of the time I went to investigate audio square waves eminating from 
the shack, to find the cat curled up on the log book and key in front of the 
HW-16 (full break-in Novice rig with neon relaxation oscillator for side tone). 
 That was the first time I saw a cherry-red plate.  :)  The key soon had a 
toggle switch in series to ensure stand-by when unattended.
'JK 

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 3:09 PM, Rick Stealey  
wrote:
 

 
I'm going to blame this one on the ARRL.
In fact we might even call it the "1809 ARRL 24 hour dash."
Why, you ask?
Because it MIGHT have been caused by the operator mistakenly leaving his copy 
of QST on his key when he went to bed last night.

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Re: Topband: Cabrillo etc

[Tree]

Your QTH is not showing up a part of the sent exchange.

Change N7WS 599 to N7WS 599 xxx  where xxx is the QTH you sent.

Tree

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Wes Stewart  wrote:

> I operated some S during the ARRL contest.  I'm not a contest op but
> wanted to give the guys I worked some points, so I tried submitting a check
> log.
>
> I use DXBase for my logging program so I created an .adif file of the QSOs
> and used ADIF2CABR V.3.10 (C) SP7DQR to make a Cabrillo file.
>
> When I submitted I saw in part this:
>
> *ERROR-->*Following QSO errors were found:
>
>  * Sent exchange is missing sec for each QSO
>
> *WARNING-->*Following QSOs were missing required exchange info. You may
> want to correct these when you resubmit your log.
>
>  * QSO: 1814 CW 2016-12-03 0611 N7WS 599 AA5B 599 NM
>copied exchange (sec) is missing
>  * QSO: 1805 CW 2016-12-03 0231 N7WS 599 AC0W 599 MN
>copied exchange (sec) is missing
>  * QSO: 1815 CW 2016-12-04 1454 N7WS 599 AC7A 599 AZ
>copied exchange (sec) is missing
>  * QSO: 1808 CW 2016-12-04 1307 N7WS 599 AI7H 599 ID
>
> and so on and so forth.
>
> So what's the problem?
>
> Wes  N7WS
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Re: Topband: Cabrillo etc

[Paul Mclaren]

You are not sending your section is the error - or at least the log file
doesnt know to add this. It should be N7WS 599 ( your section) AI7H 599 ID
and so on. I had a similar problem with another contest but I am not
familiar with your logging software so nit sure of a fix but you could run
a find and replace in Notepad searching 'N7WS 599' and replacing with 'N7WS
599 (your section)' and resubmit.

Hope that helps

Paul
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 23:00, Wes Stewart  wrote:

> I operated some S during the ARRL contest.  I'm not a contest op but
> wanted to
> give the guys I worked some points, so I tried submitting a check log.
>
> I use DXBase for my logging program so I created an .adif file of the QSOs
> and
> used ADIF2CABR V.3.10 (C) SP7DQR to make a Cabrillo file.
>
> When I submitted I saw in part this:
>
> *ERROR-->*Following QSO errors were found:
>
>   * Sent exchange is missing sec for each QSO
>
> *WARNING-->*Following QSOs were missing required exchange info. You may
> want to
> correct these when you resubmit your log.
>
>   * QSO: 1814 CW 2016-12-03 0611 N7WS 599 AA5B 599 NM
> copied exchange (sec) is missing
>   * QSO: 1805 CW 2016-12-03 0231 N7WS 599 AC0W 599 MN
> copied exchange (sec) is missing
>   * QSO: 1815 CW 2016-12-04 1454 N7WS 599 AC7A 599 AZ
> copied exchange (sec) is missing
>   * QSO: 1808 CW 2016-12-04 1307 N7WS 599 AI7H 599 ID
>
> and so on and so forth.
>
> So what's the problem?
>
> Wes  N7WS
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Rick Stealey]

I'm going to blame this one on the ARRL.
In fact we might even call it the "1809 ARRL 24 hour dash."
Why, you ask?
Because it MIGHT have been caused by the operator mistakenly leaving his copy 
of QST on his key when he went to bed last night.

Rick  K2XT
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Topband: Cabrillo etc

[Wes Stewart]

I operated some S during the ARRL contest.  I'm not a contest op but wanted to 
give the guys I worked some points, so I tried submitting a check log.


I use DXBase for my logging program so I created an .adif file of the QSOs and 
used ADIF2CABR V.3.10 (C) SP7DQR to make a Cabrillo file.


When I submitted I saw in part this:

*ERROR-->*Following QSO errors were found:

 * Sent exchange is missing sec for each QSO

*WARNING-->*Following QSOs were missing required exchange info. You may want to 
correct these when you resubmit your log.


 * QSO: 1814 CW 2016-12-03 0611 N7WS 599 AA5B 599 NM
   copied exchange (sec) is missing
 * QSO: 1805 CW 2016-12-03 0231 N7WS 599 AC0W 599 MN
   copied exchange (sec) is missing
 * QSO: 1815 CW 2016-12-04 1454 N7WS 599 AC7A 599 AZ
   copied exchange (sec) is missing
 * QSO: 1808 CW 2016-12-04 1307 N7WS 599 AI7H 599 ID

and so on and so forth.

So what's the problem?

Wes  N7WS

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Re: Topband: Dxing on the Edge...the Thrill of 160m! - SECOND EDITION is now available!

[Andrew Chesnokov]

Bookbaby charged my card and then refused to ship to Russia.
What a shame!

73, Andy UA3AB

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:29 PM, k1zm--- via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:

> Hi Gang
>
>
> I am pleased to be able to announce that the 2ND EDITION of Dxing on the
> Edge...the Thrill of 160M! is now available for purchase.
>
>
> While we had a great run with ARRL starting in 1998 (for which I am most
> grateful), this second edition has been self-published using BOOKBABY.com.
>
>
> Earlier this year some UK friends of mine asked me to put out an updated
> edition of the book and this summer I had the time to work with Tim Duffy
> of DXE and Jay Terleski of Array Solutions to do just that.
>
>
> The new book contains the original manuscript from 1998 but also includes
> new and updated material regarding current XMIT antenna solutions for
> Dx'ing and contesting on Topband.  Additionally,, there is a chapter
> specifically dedicated to Rx antennas for those with smaller lots - as Rx
> on Topband is the thorniest problem to resolve if one is space limited as
> we all are well aware.
>
>
> Also included are current operating suggestions for snagging the rarest of
> the rare ones on 160m - which means using capabilities and techniques that
> did not exist in 1998.
>
>
> Gone unfortunately is the CD of "Memorable Moments on 160M" as technical
> limitations prevented inclusion of this in the revised addition.
>
>
> A couple of things I wish to make very clear:
>
>
> 1) I am not necessarily trying here to sell you another bookif you
> bought and enjoyed the first edition of my book, it is totally your call if
> you wish to purchase the second addition.  Current successful 160M Dx'ers
> may already be well aware of the modern antenna choices for XMIT and RX
> that I talk about - so I am really aiming this book at amateurs who have
> always wanted to try 160M but have demeurred due to smallish properties or
> to those who would like to learn how to operate on 160M for the first time
> and need to know how to become successful on Topband.
>
>
> 2) I owe a huge debt of gratitude to K3LR and WX0B for providing
> information on their fine 160M products - including elevation plots and
> technical data on their products.  I would never have been able to release
> this second edition without their input and cooperation - so thanks to them
> both!  I should note also that I did not ask for nor receive any
> remuneration whatsoever for highlighting their fine products in the revised
> version.  I simply consider both guys friends,  who are reputable
> suppliers,  who market great products and they service them well.  It is
> that simple.I buy and use their stuff myself - so I am 100% comfortable
> recommending what they sell to buyers of my book.
>
>
> 3) The price of the 2nd edition is $20.18  USD.
>
>
> 4) You may purchase it here:
>
>
> a) From DX Engineering - (it will soon be added to the DXE website in the
> books section)
>
>
> b) From Array Solutions - (it will soon be added to the Array Solutions
> website in the books section)
>
>
> c) Directly from the publisher Bookbaby - Here is the Internet Link:
>
>
> https://store.bookbaby.com/book/Dxing-On-the-Edge
>
>
> The ISBN number is:   9781483586458
>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read this message.  I do hope anyone who
> orders the new book finds it a useful addition to their 160M operating
> enjoyment going forward.
>
>
> 73  JEFF  K1ZM/VY2ZM
>
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Don Kirk]

Hi Michael,

Been doing this (plotting on google earth) as each report comes in (which
is what I always do), but since most folks can only provide direction such
as N.W., or West, this provides very poor resolution, and some reports
provide headings that are nowhere close (totally miss the target area by
hundreds of miles).  At the moment the majority of the bearings are
crossing in Ohio, and based on what I'm seeing on the plots, it looks like
it's likely on a line South of I-70 as it crosses the state, and probably
more SE (toward West Virginia), than SW of Columbus.  Signal strength is
generally useless unless the signal strength is during daylight hours (due
to propagation) and also since most reports are from uncalibrated RX
antenna systems.

Triangulation via bearings is generally the way to go until you get boots
on the ground so to speak with a portable direction finding antenna.

I just got home and don't hear the "dasher", and W1AW is already booming in
this afternoon, so suspect this case is closed.  Most likely the problem
has already been discovered by the guilty party.

73,
Don (wd8dsb)

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Michael Walker  wrote:

> I don't have time to do this, but if someone plugs all the reports with
> direction and guessing at strength on a Google Maps, the answer will start
> to become readily apparent.
>
> Mike va3mw
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:10 PM, GALE STEWARD via Topband <
> topband@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, and it sent a correct Morse letter/number every so often!
> > 73, Stew K3ND
> >
> >   From: ersmar 
> >  To: Don Kirk ; topband 
> >  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 1:54 PM
> >  Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
> >
> > It's a Coke bottle on a Morse key and flapping window blind in San
> > Francisco.  (For you youg'uns, check out On the Beach on Netflix.)
> >
> > 73 de
> > Gene Smar AD3F
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Don Kirk 
> > Date: 12/06/2016  1:17 AM  (GMT-05:00)
> > To: topband 
> > Subject: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
> >
> > I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate
> approximately
> > 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal and
> > heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
> > near Indianapolis).
> >
> > Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
> > Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
> >
> > Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
> >
> > At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
> >
> > Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Michael Walker]

I don't have time to do this, but if someone plugs all the reports with
direction and guessing at strength on a Google Maps, the answer will start
to become readily apparent.

Mike va3mw

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:10 PM, GALE STEWARD via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:

> Yes, and it sent a correct Morse letter/number every so often!
> 73, Stew K3ND
>
>   From: ersmar 
>  To: Don Kirk ; topband 
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 1:54 PM
>  Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
>
> It's a Coke bottle on a Morse key and flapping window blind in San
> Francisco.  (For you youg'uns, check out On the Beach on Netflix.)
>
> 73 de
> Gene Smar AD3F
>
>  Original message 
> From: Don Kirk 
> Date: 12/06/2016  1:17 AM  (GMT-05:00)
> To: topband 
> Subject: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
>
> I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate approximately
> 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal and
> heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
> near Indianapolis).
>
> Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
> Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
>
> Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
>
> At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
>
> Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: DX Propagation long path is getting strong this season

[Larry - K1UO]

A couple of us in Maine also worked Joe WL7E this morning but the LP direction 
was closed for us.  Instead, Joe was worked via the conventional NW path for me 
with the HI-Z array.  There was some slight copy to the West direction but I 
attribute that to pattern overlap on the vertical RX array.   So far this 
season we here in the NE area have had very limited and short openings of any 
kind to the SSW or even the SSE LP to Asia at our SS. 
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Topband: LA qsl

[ok1tn]

And it is done. Via LOTW  confirmed all states. Like a bolt from the blue. 
Thank you to all.

Three seasons on TB. Several states, I had an appointed sked for all W0SD 
thank you Ed, and other too.

-- 
73 Slavek Zeler

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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[GALE STEWARD via Topband]

Yes, and it sent a correct Morse letter/number every so often!
73, Stew K3ND

  From: ersmar 
 To: Don Kirk ; topband  
 Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 1:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
   
It's a Coke bottle on a Morse key and flapping window blind in San Francisco.  
(For you youg'uns, check out On the Beach on Netflix.)

73 de
Gene Smar AD3F

 Original message 
From: Don Kirk  
Date: 12/06/2016  1:17 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: topband  
Subject: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes 
 
I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate approximately
20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal and
heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
near Indianapolis).

Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.

Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.

At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.

Don (WD8DSB)
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Topband: qsl LA

[ok1tn]

Thank you all for help. Maybe it works, and the last state on 160m'll have 
cfm. I do not know why it's a problem today. In my youth I was delighted to 
confirm all the QSO

-- 
73 Slavek Zeler
http://www.lc-variable.eu/
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Re: Topband: DX Propagation long path is getting strong this season

[Dave AA6YQ]

re " We don't understand it ,but enjoy it for sure"

Ed N4II published a compelling explanation in the November/December issue of 
QST: "Gray Line Propagation, or Florida to Cocos
(Keeling) on 80m". The article is available here



and a presentation is available here:



  73,

 Dave, AA6YQ

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of JC
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:01 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: DX Propagation long path is getting strong this season

Hi topband lovers

Comments and an heads-up to watch for openings SSE/SSW on 160, 80, and 40m.

This DX season is starting somehow different from last ones. Two weeks ago a 
heard BD7PUZ 569 for 15 minutes after my SR (22:30z) on
160m, signal coming
150 degree SSE. It was the first time I heard China on 160m in the evening.


The DSt index is unprecedented high near +20 for few days. DSt will plunge 
again soon when we get hit by the arriving G1 magnetic
storm coming. DSt needs to be above +0 for several days for good possibility of 
long path,

http://lasp.colorado.edu/space_weather/dsttemerin/dsttemerin.html

This morning WL7E signal was stronger long path 210 degree, also it was the 
first time I heard KL7 from 210 degree. Joe signal was
579, real a strong signal ( horizontal polarized) , N4II also using a Waller 
Flag heard the same from the Boca Ratoon DX Club.. Joe
mentioned that he worked several Europeans last week pointing antenna toward 
Australia, near 210 degree, again the same SSW/SSE
path.

I can say for sure it is difficult to understand why SSW/SSE direction for 
almost everywhere you are in the north part planet. PY2RO
is using a Waller Flag and now he tell us how direction long path is arriving 
for stations south of the equator.

December 2011 was the best long path propagation day I remember. It seems that 
conditions is coming back. I hope more good long
conditions is possible this DX season. JA7QVI Tac also worked long path this 
morning but some QSB and a quick shift towards west.
Joe (WL7E) also reported poor condx to Japan this morning, go figure!

We don't understand it ,but enjoy it for sure, Any comments on SSE/SSW are 
welcome , this propagation mode is becoming more common.

 

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Re: Topband: Fwd: ET7L DXCC approval

[Victor Goncharsky via Topband]

ET7L issue has nothing to do with remote operation. It was from Ethiopia 
authorised by local officials.
The reason for not recognising it has nothing to do with ham radio.
SV2RSG is another example.


>Вторник,  6 декабря 2016, 17:55 +02:00 от DXer :
>
>So...the ARRL does not care. Libertarianism at its best, nothing wrong with
>that.
>
>Point taken about this reflector not being the place for this discussion.
>End of story for me. :^)
>
>73 de Vince, VA3VF
>
>On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Mike Cizek W0VTT < mgci...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> The reflector isn't the place to start a discussion of what is and what is
>> not acceptable, but the League has made their decision about remote ops.
>> From the DXCC rules:
>>
>>
>>
>> 11.  Issues concerning remotely controlled operating and DXCC are best
>> dealt with by each individual carefully considering the ethical limits that
>> he/she will accept for his/her DXCC and other operating awards.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> It will continue to be up to the operator to decide what types of legal
>> remote control operating he/she will use (if any) to contribute to an
>> operating award.
>>
>>
>>
>> Naturally, I have my opinions, and will gladly share them over a few
>> beers.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been a card checker since the program started, and am happy to say
>> that I have only found one case of a card being changed from 18 to 1.8
>> MHz.  The guy didn't even TRY to make it look good - couldn't believe it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mike Cizek WØVTT
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of DXer
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 08:51
>> To:  topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: ET7L DXCC approval
>>
>>
>>
>> This is going to be a much bigger issue than the adultered 18M QSLs. :^)
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know how easy it is to detect the use of a remote RX, unless a P5
>>
>> contact at 12 noon local time is claimed. :^))
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 de Vince, VA3VF
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Johann Bruinier < bruin...@t-online.de >
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Another unpleasant item is the growing use of remote RXs. It's not
>>
>> > difficult to identify the fakers but does ARRL care?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Seasons' Greetings & 73!
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Jan DL9KR.
>>
>> >
>>
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-- 
73, Victor Goncharsky US5WE/K1WE (UW5W in VHF contests, ex UB5WE), P.E.
UARL Technical and VHF Committies
DXCC Honor Roll #1 (Mixed, Phone)
DXCC card checker (160 meters).
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Re: Topband: ET7L DXCC approval

[Merv Schweigert]

I see a lot of remote receiver and transmitter use,  so far its not 
being addressed

that I know of.

I got blasted yesterday on the DX clusters because I was spotting A45, 
3B9, 3B8,
RA9 etc,  LID on the cluster said I was using remote,  I suggest the 
operator LID
use the call book and see where my call is licensed before opening his 
mouth and

proving his ignorance.

Merv K9FD   (Manaloa Hawaii for the uninformed)


Does anyone know the reason(s) for ARRL's withholding the approval for 
the excellent ET7L operation?


Another unpleasant item is the growing use of remote RXs. It's not 
difficult to identify the fakers but does ARRL care?


Seasons' Greetings & 73!

Jan DL9KR.

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Topband: Fwd: ET7L DXCC approval

[DXer]

So...the ARRL does not care. Libertarianism at its best, nothing wrong with
that.

Point taken about this reflector not being the place for this discussion.
End of story for me. :^)

73 de Vince, VA3VF

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Mike Cizek W0VTT  wrote:

> The reflector isn't the place to start a discussion of what is and what is
> not acceptable, but the League has made their decision about remote ops.
> From the DXCC rules:
>
>
>
> 11.  Issues concerning remotely controlled operating and DXCC are best
> dealt with by each individual carefully considering the ethical limits that
> he/she will accept for his/her DXCC and other operating awards.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> It will continue to be up to the operator to decide what types of legal
> remote control operating he/she will use (if any) to contribute to an
> operating award.
>
>
>
> Naturally, I have my opinions, and will gladly share them over a few
> beers.
>
>
>
> I've been a card checker since the program started, and am happy to say
> that I have only found one case of a card being changed from 18 to 1.8
> MHz.  The guy didn't even TRY to make it look good - couldn't believe it.
>
>
>
> --
>
> 73,
>
> Mike Cizek WØVTT
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of DXer
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 08:51
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: ET7L DXCC approval
>
>
>
> This is going to be a much bigger issue than the adultered 18M QSLs. :^)
>
>
>
> I don't know how easy it is to detect the use of a remote RX, unless a P5
>
> contact at 12 noon local time is claimed. :^))
>
>
>
> 73 de Vince, VA3VF
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Johann Bruinier 
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> > Another unpleasant item is the growing use of remote RXs. It's not
>
> > difficult to identify the fakers but does ARRL care?
>
> >
>
> > Seasons' Greetings & 73!
>
> >
>
> > Jan DL9KR.
>
> >
>
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Charlie Young]

At 1505 UTC, the 1809 kHz dash station is peaking S7 in Charleston WV, well 
above the noise on my TX inverted L.   There is significant QSB on the signal, 
down to S3 or 4, but always above the background noise.


The signal is W/NW from me.  The Hi Z triangle does not have enough resolution 
but hears the signal better than my bogs. Clearly better on the NW position 
than SW or N.   The signal seems better on a 280 degree bog than it does on a 
330 degree bog but it is close.


I have 4 tx inverted L's, each on a different hill quadrant.  In the absence of 
power line noise, they hear fairly well.  I can usually discern the general 
signal direction from listening to these antennas, if the signal is out of the 
noise.  The NW inverted L is clearly best on the dash signal.


At the moment, 1520 UTC, the signal has taken a significant fade and is only 
audible now on the NW inverted L.  It has fallen below the noise on the rx 
antennas.


Hope this helps.


73 Charlie N8RR



From: Topband  on behalf of Eric NO3M 

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 8:34 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

Signal peaks on SW beverage (245 deg) and 8-circle array aimed SW (245
deg) here in WPA (EN91wr).  Slightly more signal on the west than south
directions, so extrapolate slightly more west than 245 deg.

73 Eric NO3M

On 12/06/2016 09:05 AM, Don Kirk wrote:
> Thanks Russ,
>
> With your heading, we are starting to narrow in on a East South East
> direction from Columbus Ohio (heading 106 degrees from Columbus Ohio at a
> distance of approximately 77 miles).
>
> If someone is in that general area it would be nice to know if they hear
> the signal during the middle of the day.
>
> Suspect location subject to change as more data is received.
>
> Thanks,
> Don
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Russ Tobolic via Topband <
> topband@contesting.com> wrote:
>
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Re: Topband: ET7L DXCC approval

[Chortek, Robert L.]

Their license was apparently approved and issued by the wrong governmental 
department.  

73,

 Bob AA6VB 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Johann Bruinier  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the reason(s) for ARRL's withholding the approval for the 
> excellent ET7L operation?
> 
> Another unpleasant item is the growing use of remote RXs. It's not difficult 
> to identify the fakers but does ARRL care?
> 
> Seasons' Greetings & 73!
> 
> Jan DL9KR.
> 
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Re: Topband: ET7L DXCC approval

[DXer]

This is going to be a much bigger issue than the adultered 18M QSLs. :^)

I don't know how easy it is to detect the use of a remote RX, unless a P5
contact at 12 noon local time is claimed. :^))

73 de Vince, VA3VF

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Johann Bruinier 
wrote:

>
> Another unpleasant item is the growing use of remote RXs. It's not
> difficult to identify the fakers but does ARRL care?
>
> Seasons' Greetings & 73!
>
> Jan DL9KR.
>
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Topband: ET7L DXCC approval

[Johann Bruinier]

Does anyone know the reason(s) for ARRL's withholding the approval for 
the excellent ET7L operation?


Another unpleasant item is the growing use of remote RXs. It's not 
difficult to identify the fakers but does ARRL care?


Seasons' Greetings & 73!

Jan DL9KR.

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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Eric NO3M]

Signal peaks on SW beverage (245 deg) and 8-circle array aimed SW (245 
deg) here in WPA (EN91wr).  Slightly more signal on the west than south 
directions, so extrapolate slightly more west than 245 deg.


73 Eric NO3M

On 12/06/2016 09:05 AM, Don Kirk wrote:

Thanks Russ,

With your heading, we are starting to narrow in on a East South East
direction from Columbus Ohio (heading 106 degrees from Columbus Ohio at a
distance of approximately 77 miles).

If someone is in that general area it would be nice to know if they hear
the signal during the middle of the day.

Suspect location subject to change as more data is received.

Thanks,
Don

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Russ Tobolic via Topband <
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Topband: LA QSL

[ok1tn]

Hi topbanders
Please advice about how to get cfm. from the last US state  LA for  WAS 
award on 160 meters. A few years can not obtain qsl or from W5ZZ and N8OO at
last state USA No email answers no direct answers. The next station from LA 
I failed so far to work

-- 
73 Slavek Zeler
http://www.lc-variable.eu/
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Topband: Long path propagation SSE/SSW

[JC]

Hi topband lovers

 

Comments and an heads-up to watch for openings SSE/SSW on 160, 80, and 40m.

 

This DX season is starting somehow different from last ones. Two weeks ago a
heard BD7PUZ 569 for 15 minutes after my SR (22:30z) on 160m, signal coming
150 degree SSE. It was the first time I heard China on 160m in the evening.


 

The DSt index is unprecedented high near +20 for few days. DSt will plunge
again soon when we get hit by the arriving G1 magnetic storm coming. DSt
needs to be above +0 for several days for good possibility of long path,

 

 
http://lasp.colorado.edu/space_weather/dsttemerin/dsttemerin.html

 

 

This morning WL7E signal was stronger long path 210 degree, also it was the
first time I heard KL7 from 210 degree. Joe signal was 579, real a strong
signal ( horizontal polarized) , N4II also using a Waller Flag heard the
same from the Boca Ratoon DX Club.. Joe mentioned that he worked several
Europeans last week pointing antenna toward Australia, near 210 degree,
again the same SSW/SSE path.

 

I can say for sure it is difficult to understand why SSW/SSE direction for
almost everywhere you are in the north part planet. PY2RO is using a Waller
Flag and now he tell us how direction long path is arriving for stations
south of the equator.

 

December 2011 was the best long path propagation day I remember. It seems
that conditions is coming back. I hope more good long conditions is possible
this DX season. JA7QVI Tac also worked long path this morning but some QSB
and a quick shift towards west. Joe (WL7E) also reported poor condx to Japan
this morning, go figure!

 

We don't understand it ,but enjoy it for sure, Any comments on SSE/SSW are
welcome , this propagation mode is becoming more common.

 

73's

JC

N4IS

 

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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Don Kirk]

Thanks Russ,

With your heading, we are starting to narrow in on a East South East
direction from Columbus Ohio (heading 106 degrees from Columbus Ohio at a
distance of approximately 77 miles).

If someone is in that general area it would be nice to know if they hear
the signal during the middle of the day.

Suspect location subject to change as more data is received.

Thanks,
Don

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Russ Tobolic via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:

> I'm hearing it here near Grand Rapids, MI at 1336Z peaking on my SE K9AY
> loop around S2-S3..
> Russ, N3CO
>
>   From: Don Kirk 
>  To: JP Zaimes 
> Cc: topband 
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:13 AM
>  Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
>
> Thanks to everyone that has sent in directional headings so far.
>
> Jon (AA1K) and I are in almost perfect agreement regarding the direction of
> the signal from each of our locations, and using reports I received from
> others I would estimate the signal is coming from Ohio, SW Pennsylvania, NW
> West Virginia, or Eastern Indiana.
>
> Thanks so far to K3UL, AA1K, W5ZN, K1FZ, and K2XT.
>
> The signal was getting very strong when I left for work at 6am EST (peaking
> solid S9).
>
> Someone will probably figure out their mistake before we track it down.
>
> Don (wd8dsb)
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Jon Zaimes  wrote:
>
> > Hearing it at 1157z. Peaks on 280-degree Beverage from central Delaware.
> S5
> > on my K3 meter.
> >
> > 73/Jon AA1K
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don
> > Kirk
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:30 AM
> > To: topband 
> > Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
> >
> > Update.
> >
> > Still hearing it at 1026 UTC.  Heading approximately 90 to 100 degrees
> from
> > Fishers Indiana.
> >
> > Don (wd8dsb)
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 6, 2016, Don Kirk  wrote:
> >
> > > I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate
> > > approximately
> > > 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal
> > > and heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
> > > near Indianapolis).
> > >
> > > Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
> > > Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
> > >
> > > Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
> > >
> > > At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
> > >
> > > Don (WD8DSB)
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Topband: DX Propagation long path is getting strong this season

[JC]

Hi topband lovers

 

Comments and an heads-up to watch for openings SSE/SSW on 160, 80, and 40m.

 

This DX season is starting somehow different from last ones. Two weeks ago a
heard BD7PUZ 569 for 15 minutes after my SR (22:30z) on 160m, signal coming
150 degree SSE. It was the first time I heard China on 160m in the evening.


 

The DSt index is unprecedented high near +20 for few days. DSt will plunge
again soon when we get hit by the arriving G1 magnetic storm coming. DSt
needs to be above +0 for several days for good possibility of long path,

 

http://lasp.colorado.edu/space_weather/dsttemerin/dsttemerin.html

 

 

This morning WL7E signal was stronger long path 210 degree, also it was the
first time I heard KL7 from 210 degree. Joe signal was 579, real a strong
signal ( horizontal polarized) , N4II also using a Waller Flag heard the
same from the Boca Ratoon DX Club.. Joe mentioned that he worked several
Europeans last week pointing antenna toward Australia, near 210 degree,
again the same SSW/SSE path.

 

I can say for sure it is difficult to understand why SSW/SSE direction for
almost everywhere you are in the north part planet. PY2RO is using a Waller
Flag and now he tell us how direction long path is arriving for stations
south of the equator.

 

December 2011 was the best long path propagation day I remember. It seems
that conditions is coming back. I hope more good long conditions is possible
this DX season. JA7QVI Tac also worked long path this morning but some QSB
and a quick shift towards west. Joe (WL7E) also reported poor condx to Japan
this morning, go figure!

 

We don't understand it ,but enjoy it for sure, Any comments on SSE/SSW are
welcome , this propagation mode is becoming more common.

 

73's

JC

N4IS

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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Russ Tobolic via Topband]

I'm hearing it here near Grand Rapids, MI at 1336Z peaking on my SE K9AY loop 
around S2-S3..  
Russ, N3CO

  From: Don Kirk 
 To: JP Zaimes  
Cc: topband 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:13 AM
 Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
   
Thanks to everyone that has sent in directional headings so far.

Jon (AA1K) and I are in almost perfect agreement regarding the direction of
the signal from each of our locations, and using reports I received from
others I would estimate the signal is coming from Ohio, SW Pennsylvania, NW
West Virginia, or Eastern Indiana.

Thanks so far to K3UL, AA1K, W5ZN, K1FZ, and K2XT.

The signal was getting very strong when I left for work at 6am EST (peaking
solid S9).

Someone will probably figure out their mistake before we track it down.

Don (wd8dsb)

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Jon Zaimes  wrote:

> Hearing it at 1157z. Peaks on 280-degree Beverage from central Delaware. S5
> on my K3 meter.
>
> 73/Jon AA1K
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don
> Kirk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:30 AM
> To: topband 
> Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
>
> Update.
>
> Still hearing it at 1026 UTC.  Heading approximately 90 to 100 degrees from
> Fishers Indiana.
>
> Don (wd8dsb)
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016, Don Kirk  wrote:
>
> > I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate
> > approximately
> > 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal
> > and heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
> > near Indianapolis).
> >
> > Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
> > Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
> >
> > Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
> >
> > At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
> >
> > Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: Inv L Config

[Charles Shaw]

On 2016-12-06 04:37, Jerry Keller, K3BZ, wrote:

or is it enough to "fatten" the vertical
(radiating) section ?  How much BW will 3" diameter spacers give me?


	About 16 years ago I modified an ordinary inverted L (with c60 feet 
vertical) using 4 vertical #14 wires spaced in a one-foot square--hoping 
to broaden the TX band width.  No sign of improved bandwidth could be 
observed!  I was using the same groundplane of thirty-six 65-foot-long 
wires about 2 inches into the soil and the same horizontal loading-wire.


	Then I built a 86 foot tall, T-topped vertical with a 4-wire gull-wing 
groundplane at 20 feet which I'm still using. Its bandwidth is a little 
better than the L had.


73, Charles - N5UL
Hobbs, NM

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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Don Kirk]

Thanks to everyone that has sent in directional headings so far.

Jon (AA1K) and I are in almost perfect agreement regarding the direction of
the signal from each of our locations, and using reports I received from
others I would estimate the signal is coming from Ohio, SW Pennsylvania, NW
West Virginia, or Eastern Indiana.

Thanks so far to K3UL, AA1K, W5ZN, K1FZ, and K2XT.

The signal was getting very strong when I left for work at 6am EST (peaking
solid S9).

Someone will probably figure out their mistake before we track it down.

Don (wd8dsb)

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Jon Zaimes  wrote:

> Hearing it at 1157z. Peaks on 280-degree Beverage from central Delaware. S5
> on my K3 meter.
>
> 73/Jon AA1K
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don
> Kirk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:30 AM
> To: topband 
> Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes
>
> Update.
>
> Still hearing it at 1026 UTC.  Heading approximately 90 to 100 degrees from
> Fishers Indiana.
>
> Don (wd8dsb)
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016, Don Kirk  wrote:
>
> > I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate
> > approximately
> > 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal
> > and heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
> > near Indianapolis).
> >
> > Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
> > Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
> >
> > Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
> >
> > At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
> >
> > Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Jon Zaimes]

Hearing it at 1157z. Peaks on 280-degree Beverage from central Delaware. S5
on my K3 meter.

73/Jon AA1K

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Kirk
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:30 AM
To: topband 
Subject: Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

Update.

Still hearing it at 1026 UTC.  Heading approximately 90 to 100 degrees from
Fishers Indiana.

Don (wd8dsb)

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016, Don Kirk  wrote:

> I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate 
> approximately
> 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal 
> and heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is 
> near Indianapolis).
>
> Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in 
> Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
>
> Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
>
> At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
>
> Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Joel Harrison]

Hearing it in Arkansas approximately 10 dB above my noise floor. Peaks to
the NE from here. Constant dashes

73 Joel W5ZN



> Update.
>
> Still hearing it at 1026 UTC.  Heading approximately 90 to 100 degrees
> from
> Fishers Indiana.
>
> Don (wd8dsb)
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016, Don Kirk  wrote:
>
>> I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate
>> approximately
>> 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal and
>> heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
>> near Indianapolis).
>>
>> Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
>> Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
>>
>> Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
>>
>> At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
>>
>> Don (WD8DSB)
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Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

[Don Kirk]

Update.

Still hearing it at 1026 UTC.  Heading approximately 90 to 100 degrees from
Fishers Indiana.

Don (wd8dsb)

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016, Don Kirk  wrote:

> I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate approximately
> 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds).  Does not appear to be a local signal and
> heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is
> near Indianapolis).
>
> Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder Storms in
> Southern US, but definitely close to 90 degrees from me.
>
> Anyone else hearing and please provide heading from your location.
>
> At 0600 UTC it is peaking about S7.
>
> Don (WD8DSB)
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