Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
I probably should know, but what makes Zone 2 such a rarity for JA & the others? The few operators from 2? Propagation issues? 73, Gary KA1J _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
FT/X is never going away. Just like Remotes and packet, contesting, SSTV, insert your most dislike part of the hobby. It is called change. Disparaging other people in our hobby is not helpful to the hobby especially to new people coming it. What would they think if they over heard this conversation? Sadly many only care about themselves and what they can work as long as it is using the modes and bands they like. If you can't beat em, join em. Who knows you might even have some fun or a least work a new one or two. Cheers W0MU On 11/10/2019 7:56 PM, Larry via Topband wrote: gang, you are missing the point. this thread has turned into a discussion of FT8 vs CW. again. the original message is about jeff and miriam taking the time, effort and no doubt expense to give the deserving few a new zone. some day you may be lucky enough to need only one zone for WAZ. you may not be whining if it was zone 2. imagine the delight for steve, VK6IR who completed his 5BWAZ! this is what ham radio is all about. my wife and i were fortunate to visit VY2ZM/VY2NA and finer people can't be found. i suggest that you find the time to write and congratulate them for their efforts rather than bitch about what mode they used. just a thought, 73,larryn7dd -Original Message- From: Michael Walker To: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ CC: k...@aol.com ; topband Sent: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 1:15 Subject: Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week It is clear that the 160M is just full of grumpy old farts. That is ok, we are getting used to it. :) You'd think someone is making them use FT8. No one said you had to use it. If you don't like it, just spin the dial or turn the radio off. I have a pretty good hearing 160M station. I see maybe 5 guys on CW. For you 5, that is awesome!! I see double to triple that on FT8. If you want the screen shot that shows the activity, just ask me and I'll send it to you. For all you guys b*tching about FT8, how many actually turned on the radio an called CQ? This week? This month? This year? I'm trying to work new countries on 160M CW. I might hear 1 a month in CW. Maybe. Not true in FT8. The one and only exception is if there is a contest. Then, you guys don't get on because the band is then too crowded. Sounds like you need a new hobby, unless your hobby is complaining. 73 all. Maybe I'll work you on the air. Feel free to yell at me if you hear me. LOL Mike va3mw On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:10 PM Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: Hi, Unfortunately, I learned very late about work plans from the 2 zone. I heard a short, quiet squeak in the CW, and later decoded the signal on 1840. Unfortunately, all the work was for JA friends, RX was only in 1908. May be later on 1840, but I’m no decode... For me, the 2 zone is the only one that is needed for 160m. Usually, guys coming to CQWW’s work only for Europe, no chance for us (Far East Asia). But I continue to hope and listen band :) 73! Eugene, RA0FF http://wwwq.qsl.net/ra0ff / https://twitter.com/ra0ff/ Пятница, 8 ноября 2019, 21:50 +11:00 от k1zm--- via Topband < topband@contesting.com>: 08 Nov 2019 Hi Gang Jeff and I just got back from a one week "mini dx'pedition" to ZONE 2. Three ferries and about a 2400km roundtrip drive to 50.112 North from PEI was made with the express purpose of giving ZONE 2 to our JA 160m friends. Prior to our trip, only one single JA station had ever managed a qso with ZONE 2 on Topband and that was JA7HMZ about 35 years ago - so this zone was much needed by most 160m JA dx'ers. Quite of few of our 160m JA friends have been stuck at 39 zones on 160m for many years - so this was our chance to help them get ZONE 2 for #40. So without too much bandwidth - here is our report: QRV 31 October to 04 November 2019 Roughly 350 stations worked on Topband - in 42 DXCC countries (we could have worked more but we took lots of time off in order to sleep and then get up for the JA window from about 0715z - 1110z.) We tried some CW but signals were very very weak and FT8 proved the only possible way to complete contacts to JA. It was pretty exciting to work these (6) JA friends: JF8QNF JA8EAT JA7NI JA1BK JA8WKE JA3FYC We decoded no other JA signals on our side- but we know we were decoded by these other JA stations: JH7PFD (two decodes) JE6KYA (one decode) JA1EOD (several decodes). Epilogue: We think that each JA qso that was made completed WAZ 40 on Topband for these JA friends. (meaning ZONE 2 was most likely their last one needed). Steve VK6IR called us on ON4KST chat saying he had been chasing ZONE 2 on 80m for 5BWAZ for 45 years and asked if we could work him on 80m. We did not know about 80m since the antenna had not been tested for that band but, after checking it with my analyst, I found it resonated at about 3778kHz. Steve said he could not do SSB there - so I asked him if he could do digital. YES! was his reply and we m
Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
gang, you are missing the point. this thread has turned into a discussion of FT8 vs CW. again. the original message is about jeff and miriam taking the time, effort and no doubt expense to give the deserving few a new zone. some day you may be lucky enough to need only one zone for WAZ. you may not be whining if it was zone 2. imagine the delight for steve, VK6IR who completed his 5BWAZ! this is what ham radio is all about. my wife and i were fortunate to visit VY2ZM/VY2NA and finer people can't be found. i suggest that you find the time to write and congratulate them for their efforts rather than bitch about what mode they used. just a thought, 73,larryn7dd -Original Message- From: Michael Walker To: Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ CC: k...@aol.com ; topband Sent: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 1:15 Subject: Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week It is clear that the 160M is just full of grumpy old farts. That is ok, we are getting used to it. :) You'd think someone is making them use FT8. No one said you had to use it. If you don't like it, just spin the dial or turn the radio off. I have a pretty good hearing 160M station. I see maybe 5 guys on CW. For you 5, that is awesome!! I see double to triple that on FT8. If you want the screen shot that shows the activity, just ask me and I'll send it to you. For all you guys b*tching about FT8, how many actually turned on the radio an called CQ? This week? This month? This year? I'm trying to work new countries on 160M CW. I might hear 1 a month in CW. Maybe. Not true in FT8. The one and only exception is if there is a contest. Then, you guys don't get on because the band is then too crowded. Sounds like you need a new hobby, unless your hobby is complaining. 73 all. Maybe I'll work you on the air. Feel free to yell at me if you hear me. LOL Mike va3mw On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:10 PM Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > Unfortunately, I learned very late about work plans from the 2 zone. I > heard a short, quiet squeak in the CW, and later decoded the signal > on 1840. Unfortunately, all the work was for JA friends, RX was only in > 1908. > May be later on 1840, but I’m no decode... > For me, the 2 zone is the only one that is needed for 160m. Usually, guys > coming to CQWW’s work only for Europe, no chance for us (Far East Asia). > But I continue to hope and listen band :) > > 73! Eugene, RA0FF > http://wwwq.qsl.net/ra0ff / > https://twitter.com/ra0ff/ > > > >Пятница, 8 ноября 2019, 21:50 +11:00 от k1zm--- via Topband < > topband@contesting.com>: > > > >08 Nov 2019 > > > > > >Hi Gang > >Jeff and I just got back from a one week "mini dx'pedition" to ZONE 2. > Three ferries and about a 2400km roundtrip drive to 50.112 North from PEI > was made with the express purpose of giving ZONE 2 to our JA 160m friends. > >Prior to our trip, only one single JA station had ever managed a qso with > ZONE 2 on Topband and that was JA7HMZ about 35 years ago - so this zone was > much needed by most 160m JA dx'ers. Quite of few of our 160m JA friends > have been stuck at 39 zones on 160m for many years - so this was our chance > to help them get ZONE 2 for #40. > >So without too much bandwidth - here is our report: > >QRV 31 October to 04 November 2019 > >Roughly 350 stations worked on Topband - in 42 DXCC countries (we could > have worked more but we took lots of time off in order to sleep and then > get up for the JA window from about 0715z - 1110z.) > >We tried some CW but signals were very very weak and FT8 proved the only > possible way to complete contacts to JA. > >It was pretty exciting to work these (6) JA friends: > >JF8QNF > >JA8EAT > >JA7NI > >JA1BK > >JA8WKE > >JA3FYC > >We decoded no other JA signals on our side- but we know we were decoded > by these other JA stations: > >JH7PFD (two decodes) > >JE6KYA (one decode) > >JA1EOD (several decodes). > >Epilogue: > >We think that each JA qso that was made completed WAZ 40 on Topband for > these JA friends. (meaning ZONE 2 was most likely their last one needed). > >Steve VK6IR called us on ON4KST chat saying he had been chasing ZONE 2 on > 80m for 5BWAZ for 45 years and asked if we could work him on 80m. We did > not know about 80m since the antenna had not been tested for that band > but, after checking it with my analyst, I found it resonated at about > 3778kHz. Steve said he could not do SSB there - so I asked him if he could > do digital. YES! was his reply and we managed a qso on FT8 a few minutes > later. > >After we uploaded our LOG FILE to LOTW (completed on 06 November) - > within minutes there were 37 DXCC entities instantly confirmed via LOTW - > including VK6IR and all (6) lucky JA friends we had worked. > >So we are happy we helped some of our JA friends with WAZ 40 - and, at > the same time, we are a bit disappointed that we could not do more. The > A/K were lousy on nights one and two - things got better on night 3
Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
It is clear that the 160M is just full of grumpy old farts. That is ok, we are getting used to it. :) You'd think someone is making them use FT8. No one said you had to use it. If you don't like it, just spin the dial or turn the radio off. I have a pretty good hearing 160M station. I see maybe 5 guys on CW. For you 5, that is awesome!! I see double to triple that on FT8. If you want the screen shot that shows the activity, just ask me and I'll send it to you. For all you guys b*tching about FT8, how many actually turned on the radio an called CQ? This week? This month? This year? I'm trying to work new countries on 160M CW. I might hear 1 a month in CW. Maybe.Not true in FT8. The one and only exception is if there is a contest. Then, you guys don't get on because the band is then too crowded. Sounds like you need a new hobby, unless your hobby is complaining. 73 all. Maybe I'll work you on the air. Feel free to yell at me if you hear me. LOL Mike va3mw On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:10 PM Eugene Popov /RA0FF/ via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > Unfortunately, I learned very late about work plans from the 2 zone. I > heard a short, quiet squeak in the CW, and later decoded the signal > on 1840. Unfortunately, all the work was for JA friends, RX was only in > 1908. > May be later on 1840, but I’m no decode... > For me, the 2 zone is the only one that is needed for 160m. Usually, guys > coming to CQWW’s work only for Europe, no chance for us (Far East Asia). > But I continue to hope and listen band :) > > 73! Eugene, RA0FF > http://wwwq.qsl.net/ra0ff / > https://twitter.com/ra0ff/ > > > >Пятница, 8 ноября 2019, 21:50 +11:00 от k1zm--- via Topband < > topband@contesting.com>: > > > >08 Nov 2019 > > > > > >Hi Gang > >Jeff and I just got back from a one week "mini dx'pedition" to ZONE 2. > Three ferries and about a 2400km roundtrip drive to 50.112 North from PEI > was made with the express purpose of giving ZONE 2 to our JA 160m friends. > >Prior to our trip, only one single JA station had ever managed a qso with > ZONE 2 on Topband and that was JA7HMZ about 35 years ago - so this zone was > much needed by most 160m JA dx'ers. Quite of few of our 160m JA friends > have been stuck at 39 zones on 160m for many years - so this was our chance > to help them get ZONE 2 for #40. > >So without too much bandwidth - here is our report: > >QRV 31 October to 04 November 2019 > >Roughly 350 stations worked on Topband - in 42 DXCC countries (we could > have worked more but we took lots of time off in order to sleep and then > get up for the JA window from about 0715z - 1110z.) > >We tried some CW but signals were very very weak and FT8 proved the only > possible way to complete contacts to JA. > >It was pretty exciting to work these (6) JA friends: > >JF8QNF > >JA8EAT > >JA7NI > >JA1BK > >JA8WKE > >JA3FYC > >We decoded no other JA signals on our side- but we know we were decoded > by these other JA stations: > >JH7PFD (two decodes) > >JE6KYA (one decode) > >JA1EOD (several decodes). > >Epilogue: > >We think that each JA qso that was made completed WAZ 40 on Topband for > these JA friends. (meaning ZONE 2 was most likely their last one needed). > >Steve VK6IR called us on ON4KST chat saying he had been chasing ZONE 2 on > 80m for 5BWAZ for 45 years and asked if we could work him on 80m. We did > not know about 80m since the antenna had not been tested for that band > but, after checking it with my analyst, I found it resonated at about > 3778kHz. Steve said he could not do SSB there - so I asked him if he could > do digital. YES! was his reply and we managed a qso on FT8 a few minutes > later. > >After we uploaded our LOG FILE to LOTW (completed on 06 November) - > within minutes there were 37 DXCC entities instantly confirmed via LOTW - > including VK6IR and all (6) lucky JA friends we had worked. > >So we are happy we helped some of our JA friends with WAZ 40 - and, at > the same time, we are a bit disappointed that we could not do more. The > A/K were lousy on nights one and two - things got better on night 3 when we > worked the first 4 JA's - nights 5 and 6 produced one JA qso each - meaning > JA8WKE and JA3FYC. > >One amusing final fact - it was roughly a 2400km trip to there and back - > so this works out to about 400km per JA qso. > >KOWABUNGA! but we had a great time trying this - and are pleased we had > some limited success in doing so. > >We wish to mention our special thanks to Don Toman (K2KQ) and to Frank > Donovan (W3LPL) for their kind assistance with our antenna planning. Their > input and suggestions were invaluable in making this happen! > >73/88 de Miriam (VY2NA) and Jeff VY2ZM > >Email: k...@aol.com > >_ > >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives:
Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
Hi, Unfortunately, I learned very late about work plans from the 2 zone. I heard a short, quiet squeak in the CW, and later decoded the signal on 1840. Unfortunately, all the work was for JA friends, RX was only in 1908. May be later on 1840, but I’m no decode... For me, the 2 zone is the only one that is needed for 160m. Usually, guys coming to CQWW’s work only for Europe, no chance for us (Far East Asia). But I continue to hope and listen band :) 73! Eugene, RA0FF http://wwwq.qsl.net/ra0ff / https://twitter.com/ra0ff/ >Пятница, 8 ноября 2019, 21:50 +11:00 от k1zm--- via Topband >: > >08 Nov 2019 > > >Hi Gang >Jeff and I just got back from a one week "mini dx'pedition" to ZONE 2. Three >ferries and about a 2400km roundtrip drive to 50.112 North from PEI was made >with the express purpose of giving ZONE 2 to our JA 160m friends. >Prior to our trip, only one single JA station had ever managed a qso with ZONE >2 on Topband and that was JA7HMZ about 35 years ago - so this zone was much >needed by most 160m JA dx'ers. Quite of few of our 160m JA friends have been >stuck at 39 zones on 160m for many years - so this was our chance to help them >get ZONE 2 for #40. >So without too much bandwidth - here is our report: >QRV 31 October to 04 November 2019 >Roughly 350 stations worked on Topband - in 42 DXCC countries (we could have >worked more but we took lots of time off in order to sleep and then get up for >the JA window from about 0715z - 1110z.) >We tried some CW but signals were very very weak and FT8 proved the only >possible way to complete contacts to JA. >It was pretty exciting to work these (6) JA friends: >JF8QNF >JA8EAT >JA7NI >JA1BK >JA8WKE >JA3FYC >We decoded no other JA signals on our side- but we know we were decoded by >these other JA stations: >JH7PFD (two decodes) >JE6KYA (one decode) >JA1EOD (several decodes). >Epilogue: >We think that each JA qso that was made completed WAZ 40 on Topband for these >JA friends. (meaning ZONE 2 was most likely their last one needed). >Steve VK6IR called us on ON4KST chat saying he had been chasing ZONE 2 on 80m >for 5BWAZ for 45 years and asked if we could work him on 80m. We did not know >about 80m since the antenna had not been tested for that band but, after >checking it with my analyst, I found it resonated at about 3778kHz. Steve >said he could not do SSB there - so I asked him if he could do digital. YES! >was his reply and we managed a qso on FT8 a few minutes later. >After we uploaded our LOG FILE to LOTW (completed on 06 November) - within >minutes there were 37 DXCC entities instantly confirmed via LOTW - including >VK6IR and all (6) lucky JA friends we had worked. >So we are happy we helped some of our JA friends with WAZ 40 - and, at the >same time, we are a bit disappointed that we could not do more. The A/K were >lousy on nights one and two - things got better on night 3 when we worked the >first 4 JA's - nights 5 and 6 produced one JA qso each - meaning JA8WKE and >JA3FYC. >One amusing final fact - it was roughly a 2400km trip to there and back - so >this works out to about 400km per JA qso. >KOWABUNGA! but we had a great time trying this - and are pleased we had some >limited success in doing so. >We wish to mention our special thanks to Don Toman (K2KQ) and to Frank Donovan >(W3LPL) for their kind assistance with our antenna planning. Their input and >suggestions were invaluable in making this happen! >73/88 de Miriam (VY2NA) and Jeff VY2ZM >Email: k...@aol.com >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: 23rd Annual Stew Perry Topband Distance Challenge
About 24 years ago - a small group of topband operators designed a new type of radio contest which we all now know as the Stew Perry. It is time to start making plans for the next fun evening of topband CW operating. While it is becoming harder and harder to find guys using the old CW mode - there is no shortage of them during the 24 hours of this event. One of the fun things about this event is the plaque program. The plaques for last year are about to be created and mailed to their rightful new owners. You can review the list of plaques and winners at https://www.kkn.net/stew/stew_plaques.html. I know many of you enjoy the missives posted by our Plaque-meister, W7EW, but he is on sabbatical this year and you will have to read these boring posts instead. Gone are the flowery words and obscure references to things I never understood - but what remains is the intent and the list of plaques that will be sponsored. I know a few of you sponsor plaques annually and perhaps even paid some $$$ towards a plaque that hasn't be awarded yet. We will get that figured out - although if you could take a moment and let me know about it, that will assure that I look for it. So - use your imagination (not too much of it however) and come up with your choice of plaque to sponsor for this year's running. Please send your emails to me instead of Lew this year. The cost per plaque was $65 last year. We might have to make a small adjustment to this due to our costs - but we are offering this price FOR A LIMITED TIME only - so shop early and often. 73 Tree N6TR Vice Plaque Chairmen PS: There is no fine print. _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
HI Jeff and Miriam, Great effort and wonderful results making a lot of people happy by your family project. You have made our family happy this Summer by giving us a new country on 6 meters - Canada! Keep up the good work. We enjoyed reading your 160m book. Best wishes from our ham radio family. 73/88 Vic US5WE, Helen UR5WA >Пятница, 8 ноября 2019, 10:51 UTC от k1zm--- via Topband < >topband@contesting.com >: > >08 Nov 2019 > > >Hi Gang >Jeff and I just got back from a one week "mini dx'pedition" to ZONE 2. Three >ferries and about a 2400km roundtrip drive to 50.112 North from PEI was made >with the express purpose of giving ZONE 2 to our JA 160m friends. >Prior to our trip, only one single JA station had ever managed a qso with ZONE >2 on Topband and that was JA7HMZ about 35 years ago - so this zone was much >needed by most 160m JA dx'ers. Quite of few of our 160m JA friends have been >stuck at 39 zones on 160m for many years - so this was our chance to help them >get ZONE 2 for #40. >So without too much bandwidth - here is our report: >QRV 31 October to 04 November 2019 >Roughly 350 stations worked on Topband - in 42 DXCC countries (we could have >worked more but we took lots of time off in order to sleep and then get up for >the JA window from about 0715z - 1110z.) >We tried some CW but signals were very very weak and FT8 proved the only >possible way to complete contacts to JA. >It was pretty exciting to work these (6) JA friends: >JF8QNF >JA8EAT >JA7NI >JA1BK >JA8WKE >JA3FYC >We decoded no other JA signals on our side- but we know we were decoded by >these other JA stations: >JH7PFD (two decodes) >JE6KYA (one decode) >JA1EOD (several decodes). >Epilogue: >We think that each JA qso that was made completed WAZ 40 on Topband for these >JA friends. (meaning ZONE 2 was most likely their last one needed). >Steve VK6IR called us on ON4KST chat saying he had been chasing ZONE 2 on 80m >for 5BWAZ for 45 years and asked if we could work him on 80m. We did not know >about 80m since the antenna had not been tested for that band but, after >checking it with my analyst, I found it resonated at about 3778kHz. Steve >said he could not do SSB there - so I asked him if he could do digital. YES! >was his reply and we managed a qso on FT8 a few minutes later. >After we uploaded our LOG FILE to LOTW (completed on 06 November) - within >minutes there were 37 DXCC entities instantly confirmed via LOTW - including >VK6IR and all (6) lucky JA friends we had worked. >So we are happy we helped some of our JA friends with WAZ 40 - and, at the >same time, we are a bit disappointed that we could not do more. The A/K were >lousy on nights one and two - things got better on night 3 when we worked the >first 4 JA's - nights 5 and 6 produced one JA qso each - meaning JA8WKE and >JA3FYC. >One amusing final fact - it was roughly a 2400km trip to there and back - so >this works out to about 400km per JA qso. >KOWABUNGA! but we had a great time trying this - and are pleased we had some >limited success in doing so. >We wish to mention our special thanks to Don Toman (K2KQ) and to Frank Donovan >(W3LPL) for their kind assistance with our antenna planning. Their input and >suggestions were invaluable in making this happen! >73/88 de Miriam (VY2NA) and Jeff VY2ZM >Email: k...@aol.com >_ >Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector -- 73, Victor Goncharsky US5WE/K1WE (UW5W in VHF contests, ex UB5WE), P.E. UARL Technical and VHF Committies DXCC Honor Roll #1 (Mixed, Phone), 10BDXCC, 8BWAS DXCC card checker (160 meters). -- -- 73, Victor Goncharsky US5WE/K1WE (UW5W in VHF contests, ex UB5WE), P.E. UARL Technical and VHF Committies DXCC Honor Roll #1 (Mixed, Phone), 10BDXCC, 8BWAS DXCC card checker (160 meters). _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: A Bit of Zone 2 History Was Made Last Week
G'day As Mike VE9AA has indicated there have been several excellent Zone 2 operations in the past from the Point Amour lighthouse in Cape where the operators have had a good 160m setup. Unfortunately despite the operating teams kindly making skeds with me, we've had no success. Mike VK6HD SK also tried skeds with temporary well-equipped stations operating from Labrador on 160m without success. After many years of both of us chasing Zone 2, Mike finally managed a QSO with a temporary VE2 (during a CQ 160 CW contest, I think?) station operating just inside the Zone 2 boundary in Quebec. There is a nice little overlap between sunset here and sunrise in VO2 at this time of the year (now VO2 sunrise is at 1128Z, whereas VK6 Perth sunset is at 1054Z) but despite this my attempts in the past during/around the CQ WW CW have still been negative. Maybe it has just been conditions, but it is certainly seems a harder path to Z2 Labrador than Z2 Quebec. All that being said, I'd love to try a sked again on 160m with a VO2 station prior to the CQ WW CW. Dave VE9CB (of VO2AC) and I are good mates so maybe this is possible one day. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ On 10/11/2019 1:00 am, topband-requ...@contesting.com wrote: WRT to Steve's comments, I am*very* surprised that few VK's have worked Zone 2. In recent memory VO2AAA/VO2AC have put on 2 pretty big 160m contest expeditions from the Point Amour Lighthouse in Labrador with exceptional antennas and huge signals into NA and EU.(and elsewhere) In recent memory VO2AAA/VO2AC have put on 2 pretty big 160m contest expeditions from the Point Amour Lighthouse in Labrador with exceptional antennas and huge signals into NA and EU.(and elsewhere) Mike VE9AA/VO2DX.etc. _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
