Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Saulius Zalnerauskas
UA7 is in zone 16
Good luck in CQWW 160 SSB
Sam LY5W

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:29 PM Jim Brown 
wrote:

> 3-4 weeks either side of the winter solstice, I worked a dozen or so EU
> stations using FT8. Nearly all were on the daylight side of their
> sunrise. Best DX was a UA7 in Zone 17!
>
> Last weekend in ARRL DX CW, I worked a bunch of EU stations on 80M, most
> well into daylight after their sunrise.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
> Near San Francisco
>
> On 2/21/2020 11:17 AM, Wes wrote:
> > I worked him at 0500Z
> >
> > Wes  N7WS
> >
> > On 2/21/2020 11:50 AM, W7RH wrote:
> >>
> >> Yesterday I worked EA7X two hours after sunset and then the band
> closed.
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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Jim Brown
3-4 weeks either side of the winter solstice, I worked a dozen or so EU 
stations using FT8. Nearly all were on the daylight side of their 
sunrise. Best DX was a UA7 in Zone 17!


Last weekend in ARRL DX CW, I worked a bunch of EU stations on 80M, most 
well into daylight after their sunrise.


73, Jim K9YC
Near San Francisco

On 2/21/2020 11:17 AM, Wes wrote:

I worked him at 0500Z

Wes  N7WS

On 2/21/2020 11:50 AM, W7RH wrote:


Yesterday I worked EA7X two hours after sunset and then the band closed. 


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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
Isn't the auroral zone centered on the "geomagnetic pole" rather than 
the "magnetic pole"?   Given that the geomagnetic pole is hardly 
moving at all in comparison with the magnetic pole, that would 
indicate that the location of the auroral zone itself shouldn't have 
moved too much since the last solar minimum.


73

Nick
VE7DXR


At 18:50 2020-02-21, W7RH wrote:

Thanks for the comments in this discussion.

I have in previous posts commented on the magnetic north pole and 
it's migration towards Siberia. I feel this has been the primary 
cause of propagation disturbance at my location. That and I'm at the 
wrong distance from the aurora itself creating the high absorption.


Here are a couple of links to visualize what I perceive is the 
cause. Fortunately 160m is almost always open somewhere after dark, 
not necessarily where I want it to be.


Yesterday I worked EA7X two hours after sunset and then the band closed.

http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/poles/polesexp.html

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

On the NOAA page click on the right hand image of the Aurora and run 
the 24 hour collection. You can see I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.


73

Bob W7RH

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Victoria, BC
Canada 


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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Wes

I worked him at 0500Z

Wes  N7WS

On 2/21/2020 11:50 AM, W7RH wrote:


Yesterday I worked EA7X two hours after sunset and then the band closed. 


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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread W7RH

Thanks for the comments in this discussion.

I have in previous posts commented on the magnetic north pole and it's 
migration towards Siberia. I feel this has been the primary cause of 
propagation disturbance at my location. That and I'm at the wrong 
distance from the aurora itself creating the high absorption.


Here are a couple of links to visualize what I perceive is the cause. 
Fortunately 160m is almost always open somewhere after dark, not 
necessarily where I want it to be.


Yesterday I worked EA7X two hours after sunset and then the band closed.

http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/poles/polesexp.html

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

On the NOAA page click on the right hand image of the Aurora and run the 
24 hour collection. You can see I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time.


73

Bob W7RH

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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Cecil


> On Feb 21, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Roy Morgan  wrote:
> 
> In that same building is the US standard 1.1 million pound weight.  

That must have been used to measure our gold reserves accurately...藍

Cecil
K5DL
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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Roy Morgan
Dave,

Thanks for your reply. I am reminded that here I may have topographic maps from 
late 1800's possibly and from the late 1950's. I will dig them out to see what 
they show. 

I assume the numbers you show are for London. Also I'd expect to find accurate 
current values for my location on line somewhere. 

It's just of interest - I don't expect to do any important surveying with this 
Brunton Pocket Transit. I do want to survey our house lot. I think only one 
corner pin is known.  

I used to work at NIST/NBS Gaithersburg, MD. On the grounds there is a primary 
survey monument. It is at the top of a 20-foot(?) pole anchored in bedrock and 
covered by an innocuous cover in the grass. It and perhaps 2 or 3 others in 
this part of the country establish the basis for all surveying this side of the 
Mississippi. It's position is known to a small fraction of an inch.  Also on 
the site is a GPS monitoring system that issues corrections to GPS users doing 
surveying. In that same building is the US standard 1.1 million pound weight.  

Ferdinand Hassler was Superintendent of the first thorough survey of the East 
coast sometime around 1800. See NIST.gov for info about him. 

Roy Morgan
K1LKY Western Mass

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 9:39 AM, David Olean  wrote:
> 
> Years ago, I think the correction was more like 17 degrees in New England.   
> ...magnetic variations for London, England over the last few  centuries. The 
> pole really does move.
> 
> YEAR   DECL.
> 
> 1600  8E
> 1650  1E
> 1700  7W
> 1750  18W
> 1800  24W
> 1850  22W
> 1900  16W
> 1950   8W
> 1970  7W
> 
> 73
> Dave K1WHS
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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread David Olean
Years ago, I think the correction was more like 17 degrees in New 
England.  I did some work on the geomagnetic field some years ago, and 
remembered getting magnetic variations for London, England over the last 
few  centuries. The pole really does move.


YEAR   DECL.

1600  8E
1650  1E
1700  7W
1750  18W
1800  24W
1850  22W
1900  16W
1950   8W
1970  7W

73

Dave K1WHS

On 2/21/2020 2:05 PM, Roy Morgan wrote:

Hello Frantisek and others,

I wonder how much the magnetic pole has shifted.

I have been reviewing the operation of the Brunton Pocket Transit here. It has 
an adjustment for declination - the angular difference between the magnetic 
North Pole and the true rotational axis North Pole.

Here in Western Massachusetts it has been about 15 degrees East for a very long 
time. I wonder if that is changing.

Roy Morgan
K1LKY Western Mass


On Feb 21, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Frantisek Mikulenka 
 wrote:

Hi Bob,

did you take in mind  increasing magnetic  pole (and accompanied  aurora oval) 
eastern shift  from Canada towards Siberia ?

73
Frantisek OK2BUZ

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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Roy Morgan
Hello Frantisek and others,

I wonder how much the magnetic pole has shifted. 

I have been reviewing the operation of the Brunton Pocket Transit here. It has 
an adjustment for declination - the angular difference between the magnetic 
North Pole and the true rotational axis North Pole. 

Here in Western Massachusetts it has been about 15 degrees East for a very long 
time. I wonder if that is changing. 

Roy Morgan
K1LKY Western Mass

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 4:59 AM, Frantisek Mikulenka 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> did you take in mind  increasing magnetic  pole (and accompanied  aurora 
> oval) eastern shift  from Canada towards Siberia ?
> 
> 73
> Frantisek OK2BUZ
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Re: Topband: 160m activity and propagation

2020-02-21 Thread Frantisek Mikulenka
Hi Bob,

did you take in mind  increasing magnetic  pole (and accompanied  aurora oval) 
eastern shift  from Canada towards Siberia ?

73
Frantisek OK2BUZ

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Perhaps I was misunderstood by some in their comments regarding my post. 
As Larry N7DD pointed out the stations are there at least in the contests. My 
comments were pointed at changing propagation characteristics. It is no 
uncommon for huge swings between my location, N7DD near Tucson and NA7TB on the 
Mexican boarder near New Mexico. 
300-500 miles can make a huge difference. They often flip over the over a two 
day contest period.

I am very lucky and have a great RX location with very low noise. At this 
moment (0300) my s-meter is S1-S2 on the TX/RX array pointed to EU. 
My point is that more often than not a station may be 349 at my place and 579 
down south 300 miles. This was not the case during the last solar cycle.

I will note I have logged many new calls the past year and  it's always a 
pleasure to work a new one. I just expected more openings than what we've had 
for this solar minimum.

73

Bob W7RH


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