Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
On 2011-12-12, at 8:27 AM, N1BUG wrote: To me, 1.800 to 1.810 seems an ideal place for casual QRP and CW operation where DX outside North America is not the goal. Hi Paul, Yes, I agree totally... It can be very difficult to locate any ...free space on the band if all you want is a casual QSO: many is the time that I've had a leisurely rag chew interrupted below 1820-KHz with a terse, QSY DX HR directed my way---even after an already well-established QSO with another domestic station. Having had some modicum of experience as to the general operating habits on the band, I can appreciate such a sudden plaintive plea---but a newcomer to 1.8-MHz may not, he could well interpret such comments as being rude, and dismissive. That's why the bottom 10-KHz of Topband is, IMHO, the ideal safe haven for those whose interests might be different from the goals ambitions of what appears to be the vast majority of its up-band CW denizens, i.e. DX'ing... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 08:27 -0500, N1BUG wrote: QRP may be fun for the QRP station but it's often a PITA for the station on the other end. I'm sure that's true in some cases, but QRP'ers take heart! There are some, myself included, who enjoy the challenge of trying to dig a very weak signal from the noise. I suppose that is why I gravitated toward EME, 160m DX, 6m DX, anywhere else I am likely have to really dig stuff out. It's also one reason I don't enjoy digital modes - it robs me of the challenge and fun of using my brain to decode something which is at the very limit of audibility. To each their own! Personally, I'd get more enjoyment out of watching paint dry. As for band plans, I think we've seen some very sensible comments in this thread about utilizing the band but being mindful of the enjoyment of others. Over the past several years, with low solar activity, the 1.810 to 1.835 segment was crammed to the brink with DX and people calling for DX. This was especially true around and just after sunset here in New England. This year, with solar activity on the rise and topband conditions well down from what we've seen of late, it seems far less busy. I will add that 1.810 to 1.820 is a favorite among DX stations in Southeast Asia trying to work North America, especially the east coast. These signals are almost always VERY weak and fleeting, making this activity is especially vulnerable to QRM. I admit I've had mixed feelings about where to put digital. Below 1.810 seems unfair as most of the world cannot operate there. Given the available options, I don't see any better option that the 1.835 t0 1.840 segment where most of it is now. To me, 1.800 to 1.810 seems an ideal place for casual QRP and CW operation where DX outside North America is not the goal. As I am weening myself from the much beloved pursuit of DX (not easy!), I went looking for and found a new interest: building of vintage/antique gear. Having been an avid topband DXer for many years, I plan to stay below 1.810 when on the air with my homebrew antique rigs. I hope to work a few of you down there eventually. I've not yet wound a set of 160 meter coils for my recently completed 1929 TNT transmitter, so I'm stuck on 80 meters at the moment. 73, Paul N1BUG ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK Hi Paul, I'm newly trying to get on 160 meters. I do operate QRP and sometimes QRPp. I am not really discouraged by comments I see on this or any other list. I have been running with QRP as my first choice since 1980. I *know* there are some hams who can hear me but they choose to NOT work a weak signal. At least they don't interfere. So I have no complaints about that. To each his own. When I bought that Ten Tec Argonaut 509 back then I soon made boots for it consisting of a 6146B and associated circuitry to maintain QSK operation. Sometimes QRP is just not appropriate. I don't have and I don't want legal limit amplifiers here. I have always been able to operate somewhere in the one or another of the ham bands with ~100 watts or much, much less. That included my participation in traffic nets. heresy I'm not much of a contester. Some of the things I encounter in contests really disgust me. That is not intended to change anybody's mind about how they operate in contests. /heresy I do operate in contests. The more casual the contest the longer I stay in. I am working toward improving my portable operation capability for several reasons and one of those is providing counties or grid squares that are difficult to get to stations that need them for - contests. I'm in Roscommon county in Michigan and it's only three miles to Missaukee County and four miles to a State Forest campground/park there. Aside from offering paper to other hams .. it's fun. In my preparations to get active on Top Band I have found lots of useful information from all of the threads on this list. I can't load an antenna here yet but I have been listening and I have the general idea about who operates where and the day/night/gray line thing about when. I an pretty sure I am going to like 160 when I finally get those wires up. When the band is crowded and/or I've had my fill of the current contest there are always the WARC bands grin. 73, Bill KU8H ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
Way to go, Gary! I'll be on Top Band this week, starting this evening, lookin' for QSOs with anyone BUT really hoping to have Qs with CT, VT, RI, SC, FL, ME, IN and MD so I can complete QRP WAS on 160 meters! I have a sked with a fella in IN early tomorrow morning - 0100 my time, 0300 his - so I'll be there if anyone is interested in working me from those states, in particular but from where ever. I'll be operating during the Stew, as often as time permits, offering up my 4 points to y'all and certainly hope to work lots of you! 72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV From: g...@ka1j.com To: topband@contesting.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:44:28 -0500 Subject: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A 599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2. Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely alive. 100mW... nice! Gary KA1J/QRPp ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
What is the QRP frequency on 160? Sounds fun. Would like to give it a try with my newly finished K3. 73, Mike WA5POK -Original Message- From: James Rodenkirch Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:28 AM To: g...@ka1j.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO Way to go, Gary! I'll be on Top Band this week, starting this evening, lookin' for QSOs with anyone BUT really hoping to have Qs with CT, VT, RI, SC, FL, ME, IN and MD so I can complete QRP WAS on 160 meters! I have a sked with a fella in IN early tomorrow morning - 0100 my time, 0300 his - so I'll be there if anyone is interested in working me from those states, in particular but from where ever. I'll be operating during the Stew, as often as time permits, offering up my 4 points to y'all and certainly hope to work lots of you! 72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV From: g...@ka1j.com To: topband@contesting.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:44:28 -0500 Subject: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A 599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2. Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely alive. 100mW... nice! Gary KA1J/QRPp ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
1810 is the suggested frequency, Mike - I tend to start there, listening, to see if any other QRP stations are around but I tend to not hang around there too much as I don't think of myself as QRP as much as just challenging myself to do well with lessHi Hi I'll be on 160 this evening, probably around 2000 Mountain Time and, of course, early tomorrow morning around 0800Z - hope to hear and work you! Jim R. K9JWV From: mikefur...@att.net To: rodenkirch_...@msn.com; g...@ka1j.com; topband@contesting.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:13:17 -0600 Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO What is the QRP frequency on 160? Sounds fun. Would like to give it a try with my newly finished K3. 73, Mike WA5POK -Original Message- From: James Rodenkirch Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:28 AM To: g...@ka1j.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO Way to go, Gary! I'll be on Top Band this week, starting this evening, lookin' for QSOs with anyone BUT really hoping to have Qs with CT, VT, RI, SC, FL, ME, IN and MD so I can complete QRP WAS on 160 meters! I have a sked with a fella in IN early tomorrow morning - 0100 my time, 0300 his - so I'll be there if anyone is interested in working me from those states, in particular but from where ever. I'll be operating during the Stew, as often as time permits, offering up my 4 points to y'all and certainly hope to work lots of you! 72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV From: g...@ka1j.com To: topband@contesting.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 02:44:28 -0500 Subject: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A 599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2. Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely alive. 100mW... nice! Gary KA1J/QRPp ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:44 AM, Gary Smith wrote: By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A 599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2. Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely alive. 100mW... nice! I agree, there is not a whole lot of activity on 160 cw or digital even though the band is quite capable. Activity seems to be mostly devoted to contesting and DX, (or SSB.) Ken WA8JXM ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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One of my QRP rigs is a pre WW2 Meissner Signal Shifter coupled with a 1934
National FB-XA.
Carl
KM1H
- Original Message -
From: Bill Stewart cw...@embarqmail.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
Congrats, Gary, on the QRPp QSO. QRP on top band is quite an
accomplishment and is a real thrill when it happens. I recently built a 4
coil Meissner osc, from a 1924 QST. It uses a C-301A ('24 vintage) tube at
about 4 watts input...and probably about 1.5 out. I strung up a 160m
Windom at 30-35 feet...thot it would be a dummy load...but so far I've
worked about 5 states...and Eddy, VE3CUI and getting pretty good reports.
If you hear me down at the low end of 160, pse give me a call.
Have fun...73, Bill K4JYS (NC)
- Original Message -
From: Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:44:28 AM
Subject: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with
N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was
absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as
a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A
599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2.
Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely
alive. 100mW... nice!
Gary
KA1J/QRPp
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Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
I have a total of 13 countries on 160 with 100mw Gary and almost DXCC at 5W; a few more on 160 and I'll have 9 band QRP DXCC. When conditions cooperate anything is possible. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:44 AM Subject: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A 599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2. Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely alive. 100mW... nice! Gary KA1J/QRPp ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4073 - Release Date: 12/10/11 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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That sounds fun ... I have a knight kit station I may try ... an Ocean
Hopper and the Knight Broadcaster adjusted to slide up to 160, watt or so on
160 AM. That would be ridiculous. I use that Broadcaster each year in my
physics and engineering classes when my students build crystal radios ...
h slide the crystal radios up to 160. I could only hope for a Q
with someone in the neighborhood.
73, Mike WA5POK
-Original Message-
From: Bill Stewart
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 7:42 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
Congrats, Gary, on the QRPp QSO. QRP on top band is quite an accomplishment
and is a real thrill when it happens. I recently built a 4 coil Meissner
osc, from a 1924 QST. It uses a C-301A ('24 vintage) tube at about 4 watts
input...and probably about 1.5 out. I strung up a 160m Windom at 30-35
feet...thot it would be a dummy load...but so far I've worked about 5
states...and Eddy, VE3CUI and getting pretty good reports. If you hear me
down at the low end of 160, pse give me a call.
Have fun...73, Bill K4JYS (NC)
- Original Message -
From: Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:44:28 AM
Subject: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
By no means any shadow of a record but I just had a CW QSO on TB with
N3LCW/QRP in Md me in CT; about 300 miles apart. The band was
absent of signals till down at the bottom, there he was calling CQ as
a QRP so I switched the amp off, turned the K3 down to 5W and got A
599. a bit later I dropped it to 100mW and got a 559 from his K2.
Kind of amazing there aren't more people on 160, it's definitely
alive. 100mW... nice!
Gary
KA1J/QRPp
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Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
Hi Guys, QRP on 160-meters is fun, alright---and there's at least one QRP contest every year that's dedicated just to the band (you've missed it by a matter of about 1-1/2 weeks!). One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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___Original Message_ From: James Rodenkirch rodenkirch_...@msn.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 Time: 06:17:37 1810 is the suggested frequency, Mike - I tend to start there, listening, to see if any other QRP stations are around but I tend to not hang around there too much as I don't think of myself as QRP as much as just challenging myself to do well with lessHi Hi James If you want to work some *real* DX, you might consider sliding up a few Hz, as 1810 is the lower band edge for most of Europe. -- 73 Ian, G3NRW ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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Oh - that DX crowd doesn't scare me, Eddy...smiling! I know to watch out for that dx window Hi Hi From: deswy...@xplornet.ca Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:52:14 -0500 To: mikefur...@att.net CC: cw...@embarqmail.com; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO Hi Guys, QRP on 160-meters is fun, alright---and there's at least one QRP contest every year that's dedicated just to the band (you've missed it by a matter of about 1-1/2 weeks!). One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote: One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... The Ham world needs to get their act together! Not complaining about your advice Eddy, but just yesterday I found the IARU recommended 160m bandplan (dated October 2010): 1800-1810 digi modes 1810-1830 CW 1812QRP 1830-1840 DX window Isn't it nice that the amateur radio bureaucrats are totally disconnected from reality? I try to be cooperative but in truth I can't figure out where in the heck I should operate on 160 with casual CW operation. I usually hang around 1836-38 for digital (Contestia, Olivia, Thor). 73, Ken WA8JXM ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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Too funny: There's the plan as listed by Ken... Then, you go to the AC6V web site and you find this: 1.810 QRP CW Calling frequency 1828.5 -- DXpeditions CW Operations are frequently here 1.830-1.840 CW, RTTY and other narrowband modes, intercontinental QSOs only 1.840-1.850 CW, SSB, SSTV and other wideband modes, intercontinental QSOs only 1.825 - SSB QRP Calling Freq 1910 - SSB QRP Calling Freq Then, you go to the ARRL web site and you find THIS! 1.800 - 2.000 CW 1.800 - 1.810 Digital Modes 1.810 CW QRP 1.843-2.000 SSB, SSTV and other wideband modes 1.910 SSB QRP 1.995 - 2.000 Experimental 1.999 - 2.000 Beacons Now, I don't really care, as long as SSB operators stay away from the lower end of the band 'cuz I'll just find a nice spot at the lower end to call CQ or look for other operators as far up as my loading coil lets me, so to speak and not worry too much about it. Just wish more hams got on Top Band - love the excitement of working someone on the east coast, for instance, at 0500 local time (as I did with AA1K a month or so back) with QRP power. Just to be able to get on Top Band is a big plus for me with my limited space for a low band antenna...! 72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV QRP ARCI Contest Manager From: wa8...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:52:05 -0500 To: deswy...@xplornet.ca CC: TOPBAND@CONTESTING.COM Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote: One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... The Ham world needs to get their act together! Not complaining about your advice Eddy, but just yesterday I found the IARU recommended 160m bandplan (dated October 2010): 1800-1810 digi modes 1810-1830 CW 1812QRP 1830-1840 DX window Isn't it nice that the amateur radio bureaucrats are totally disconnected from reality? I try to be cooperative but in truth I can't figure out where in the heck I should operate on 160 with casual CW operation. I usually hang around 1836-38 for digital (Contestia, Olivia, Thor). 73, Ken WA8JXM ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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I have an 1825 crystal so that is where i usually hang out, with a vairied power level depending upon which final in use: 833a, 211, or 6V6. mike w7dra On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:52:05 -0500 Ken wa8...@gmail.com writes: On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote: One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... The Ham world needs to get their act together! Not complaining about your advice Eddy, but just yesterday I found the IARU recommended 160m bandplan (dated October 2010): 1800-1810 digi modes 1810-1830 CW 1812QRP 1830-1840 DX window Isn't it nice that the amateur radio bureaucrats are totally disconnected from reality? I try to be cooperative but in truth I can't figure out where in the heck I should operate on 160 with casual CW operation. I usually hang around 1836-38 for digital (Contestia, Olivia, Thor). 73, Ken WA8JXM ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ee4e812d613999a595st05vuc ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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My primary interest on CW is DX so Ive not even listened below 1810 except in a contest. To work QRP DX on 160 wait for the nights that EU and Carribean are pounding in and find stations nobody else is calling. With 100mw Ive received 339 to 559 reports from EU and up to 579 in the Carribean. After all its only 40dB below a 1000W (-; The rig is usually a TS-940 or TS-950SD with an Oak Hills QRP wattmeter attached that has full scale ranges of 100mw, 1W, 10W and a thru position. A switchable attenuator eliminates having to use the power controls at its low end where it is very touchy.. QRP can be fun and I guess I'll never understand the type of operator who needs a 3CX15000 and a world class antenna farm to boost his ego. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: James Rodenkirch rodenkirch_...@msn.com To: deswy...@xplornet.ca; mikefur...@att.net Cc: cw...@embarqmail.com; topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO Oh - that DX crowd doesn't scare me, Eddy...smiling! I know to watch out for that dx window Hi Hi From: deswy...@xplornet.ca Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:52:14 -0500 To: mikefur...@att.net CC: cw...@embarqmail.com; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO Hi Guys, QRP on 160-meters is fun, alright---and there's at least one QRP contest every year that's dedicated just to the band (you've missed it by a matter of about 1-1/2 weeks!). One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4074 - Release Date: 12/11/11 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:03 PM, ZR wrote: QRP can be fun and I guess I'll never understand the type of operator who needs a 3CX15000 and a world class antenna farm to boost his ego. Carl, QRP may be fun for the QRP station but it's often a PITA for the station on the other end. I'm not saying that most of us need a KW on CW, I sold my SB220 in 1974. But I hate trying to dig some station out of the mud to get 50% copy just so that he can get his jollies with miles per milliwatt. Yes, I've operated a little QRP and decided it wasn't fair to the stations on the other end. Obviously, YMMV. 73, Ken WA8JXM ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
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- Original Message - From: Ken wa8...@gmail.com To: ZR z...@jeremy.mv.com Cc: TOPBAND topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:03 PM, ZR wrote: QRP can be fun and I guess I'll never understand the type of operator who needs a 3CX15000 and a world class antenna farm to boost his ego. Carl, QRP may be fun for the QRP station but it's often a PITA for the station on the other end. I'm not saying that most of us need a KW on CW, I sold my SB220 in 1974. But I hate trying to dig some station out of the mud to get 50% copy just so that he can get his jollies with miles per milliwatt. Yes, I've operated a little QRP and decided it wasn't fair to the stations on the other end. Obviously, YMMV. 73, Ken WA8JXM Ken, Im far from anti QRO as many on here and the Amps reflector know. My amps are a LK-500ZC and Alpha 76 PA on the primary and second station respectively. Backups are a MLA-2500 and DTR-2000L and the only time they get used is when I cycle them thru once a year for a week. In fact I run an amp repair and 6M conversion business. OTOH there is very little I need on any band and since I hate most of whats on TV, especially what the OL watches; cant read a book constantly and Im too old to surf porn in the Internet Ive taken up other excuses to be in the basement. QRP is one of them. Restoring vintage AM and SSB gear plus building AM amps and modulators is another. VHF to microwave also takes some of my time. Since QRP appears to be more popular in EU Id say any CW op worth his salt over there is capable of digging out weak signals. Carl KM1H - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4074 - Release Date: 12/11/11 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Nice QRPP QSO
On Dec 11, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote: One bit of advice, though: save yourself a LOT of potential grief, limit operations between 1800- 1810-KHz, i.e. the extreme bottom 10-KHz of the band. Apart from the W1AW code practice sessions there, that part of the band is usually unoccupied. If you call CQ QRP anywhere from about 1812- to 1835-KHz, you could well incur the wrath of the DX crowd hunting their quarry therein...! Be forewarned... The Ham world needs to get their act together! Not complaining about your advice Eddy, but just yesterday I found the IARU recommended 160m bandplan (dated October 2010): 1800-1810 digi modes 1810-1830 CW 1812QRP 1830-1840 DX window Isn't it nice that the amateur radio bureaucrats are totally disconnected from reality? I try to be cooperative but in truth I can't figure out where in the heck I should operate on 160 with casual CW operation. I usually hang around 1836-38 for digital (Contestia, Olivia, Thor). 73, Ken WA8JXM I agree with the IARU plan for digi (-; Carl KM1H ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
