Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread James Rodenkirch

JT65 certainly levels the playing field as far as us low power goof balls are 
concerned - I, personally, dislike the digital modes, for nowwhen I can't 
"work' with CW any longer I might cave in and give one of those modes a try...
 
Great discussion on power and low power and QRP power and the affects Top Band 
have on 'em all - appreciate the various views and discussions.  72 to all, Jim 
R. K9JWV
 

 

> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:14:26 -0700
> From: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please
> 
> On 3/18/2012 2:01 PM, James Rodenkirch wrote:
> > Sounds like you and others might not be so keen on burying your ears in 
> > noise just to work a QRP puke like me, 'eh?
> 
> I'm not keen on listening for hours and hours with no activity. I have 
> recently taken up a new challenge -- working JT65A on 160M. There's JT65 
> activity almost every night at a dial frequency of 1838 kHz, which puts 
> signals between about 1838.5 and 1840.5. The bandwidth of a signal is 
> about 200 Hz, and stations spread out in that 2kHz bandwidth. It's not 
> uncommon for me to decode five or six signals in that bandwidth when the 
> band is hopping. The last couple of nights ZR1ADI has been on, and I 
> heard a W1 work him. I heard him one of those nights and called him 
> several times.
> 
> JT65 is pretty easy to use with W6CQZ's JT65-HF software. The interface 
> is just like RTTY AFSK or PSK, and W6CQZ maintains a reverse beacon 
> server that you can set his software to send spots for everything you 
> hear. If I call CQ around 0500Z or later I'll usually see between 
> three and six spots of my signal from the east coast on every transmission.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC CM87
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
  
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/18/2012 2:01 PM, James Rodenkirch wrote:
> Sounds like you and others might not be so keen on burying your ears in noise 
> just to work a QRP puke like me, 'eh?

I'm not keen on listening for hours and hours with no activity.  I have 
recently taken up a new challenge -- working JT65A on 160M. There's JT65 
activity almost every night at a dial frequency of 1838 kHz, which puts 
signals between about 1838.5 and 1840.5. The bandwidth of a signal is 
about 200 Hz, and stations spread out in that 2kHz bandwidth.  It's not 
uncommon for me to decode five or six signals in that bandwidth when the 
band is hopping. The last couple of nights ZR1ADI has been on, and I 
heard a W1 work him.  I heard him one of those nights and called him 
several times.

JT65 is pretty easy to use with W6CQZ's JT65-HF software. The interface 
is just like RTTY AFSK or PSK, and W6CQZ maintains a reverse beacon 
server that you can set his software to send spots for everything you 
hear.   If I call CQ around 0500Z or later I'll usually see between 
three and six spots of my signal from the east coast on every transmission.

73, Jim K9YC  CM87
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread James Rodenkirch

I understand your use of "dissallow" Jim ---  this will be my first summer of 
operating Top Band, albeit at QRP levels ...I can crank it up to 20 watts 
max...after being shamed into operating after making a comment a couple of days 
ago about taking my top loading wires down for the summer and focusing on 40 
and higher...much to my chagrin, heard from lots of reflector posts that we 
shouldn't do that..hang in there and all of that.
 
Sounds like you and others might not be so keen on burying your ears in noise 
just to work a QRP puke like me, 'eh??!?!!?!?
 
Jim R. K9JWV





> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:14:21 -0700
> From: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please
> 
> On 3/18/2012 12:06 PM, James Rodenkirch wrote:
> > disallow QRP operations
> 
> The point was not to disallow QRP, but to observe that when noise levels 
> are high a QRP signal is not likely to be heard.
> 
> Three important facts of life that every QRPer must firmly understand 
> are that 1) when you're running QRP the other station's receiving 
> system is doing 99% of the work, and 2) your success is limited by the 
> other station's noise level, and 3) 5W gives away 13dB ( two S-units) of 
> noise as compared to 100W and 25dB (four S-units) as compared to 1.5kW. 
> When you give that much away, you're only going to work guys in quiet 
> locations with Beverages. During a recent 160M contest a QRP VY2 called 
> me when I was running. He has a big antenna farm and I've got a good 
> Beverage pointed at him, and he was just barely readable.
> 
> Another important consideration with QRP is that propagation between any 
> two points often varies by 30-40dB over the course of an evening. When 
> you're running QRO you can make Qs when propagation is well below peak, 
> while with QRP you've got to make your Q when conditions are just right, 
> and the other guy may have gone to bed by then. :) When I lived in 
> Chicago I ran WAE CW QRP. I couldn't work anyone when they were S5 -- I 
> had to wait until they were S9 or better.
> 
> I've run some contests QRP, including some 160M events, but I'm not 
> enough of a glutton for punishment to do QRP on 160M during my summer. :)
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
  
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread James Rodenkirch

Meant to type...Oh yeah...NOW that comment sure musst lead one to believe that 
dd is trollin'!

 

 



From: rodenkirch_...@msn.com
To: telegraph...@gmail.com; k5oai@gmail.com
CC: topband@contesting.com
Subject: RE: Topband: July Stew Perry Please
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 13:06:04 -0600





Oh yeah...not that comment SURE must lead one to believe that dd is 
'trollin'!  
 
Hah - what an absurd thought - disallow QRP operations in an event where a QRP 
station garners more points/weight than even the "heaviest/most high powered 
station?
 
Oh yeah - we want some of that, not!  Hi Hi

 


> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:06:54 -0600
> From: telegraph...@gmail.com
> To: k5oai@gmail.com
> CC: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please
> 
> Perhaps during the summer months we should forgo QRP.
> 
> Dave WX7G
> On Mar 18, 2012 11:29 AM, "Sam Morgan"  wrote:
> 
> > I know I tried very hard to participate last year,
> > mother nature had it in for us here in WTX DM91sk
> >
> > if you check that list there were only two '5's listed
> > one was in MS the other in KY
> >
> > but I'll for sure give it another try this year
> > any Stew Perry test, any time, QRPers will be there
> > if thunderstorms permit that is
> >
> > P.S.
> > if you are a QRPer you know the Stew Perry
> > is the ONLY contest 160m or anywhere,
> > that we are treated with any respect by the rest of hamdom.
> > You have it we will come! Nuff said
> > --
> > GB & 73
> > K5OAI
> > Sam Morgan
> >
> > On 3/18/2012 12:01 PM, Tree wrote:
> > > Think of the June Stew as an activity night. No weekend is going to be
> > > without conflicts - but maybe the die hard 160 types will show up and
> > hand
> > > out some QSOs. Here are the results from last year:
> > >
> > > http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/SummerStew2011.txt
> > >
> > > The top QSO total was 94 QSOs. Not a lot - but more than you would have
> > > worked on most other evenings.:-) This was the first running of the
> > > event - so hopefully, there will be a bit more activity the second time.
> > ___
> > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
> >
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
  
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/18/2012 12:06 PM, James Rodenkirch wrote:
>   disallow QRP operations

The point was not to disallow QRP, but to observe that when noise levels 
are high a QRP signal is not likely to be heard.

Three important facts of life that every QRPer must firmly understand 
are that 1)  when you're running QRP the other station's receiving 
system is doing 99% of the work, and 2) your success is limited by the 
other station's noise level, and 3) 5W gives away 13dB ( two S-units) of 
noise as compared to 100W and 25dB (four S-units) as compared to 1.5kW.  
When you give that much away, you're only going to work guys in quiet 
locations with Beverages. During a recent 160M contest a QRP VY2 called 
me when I was running. He has a big antenna farm and I've got a good 
Beverage pointed at him, and he was just barely readable.

Another important consideration with QRP is that propagation between any 
two points often varies by 30-40dB over the course of an evening. When 
you're running QRO you can make Qs when propagation is well below peak, 
while with QRP you've got to make your Q when conditions are just right, 
and the other guy may have gone to bed by then. :)   When I lived in 
Chicago I ran WAE CW QRP. I couldn't work anyone when they were S5 -- I 
had to wait until they were S9 or better.

I've run some contests QRP, including some 160M events, but I'm not 
enough of a glutton for punishment to do QRP on 160M during my summer. :)

73, Jim K9YC
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread James Rodenkirch

Oh yeah...not that comment SURE must lead one to believe that dd is 
'trollin'!  
 
Hah - what an absurd thought - disallow QRP operations in an event where a QRP 
station garners more points/weight than even the "heaviest/most high powered 
station?
 
Oh yeah - we want some of that, not!  Hi Hi

 

> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:06:54 -0600
> From: telegraph...@gmail.com
> To: k5oai@gmail.com
> CC: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please
> 
> Perhaps during the summer months we should forgo QRP.
> 
> Dave WX7G
> On Mar 18, 2012 11:29 AM, "Sam Morgan"  wrote:
> 
> > I know I tried very hard to participate last year,
> > mother nature had it in for us here in WTX DM91sk
> >
> > if you check that list there were only two '5's listed
> > one was in MS the other in KY
> >
> > but I'll for sure give it another try this year
> > any Stew Perry test, any time, QRPers will be there
> > if thunderstorms permit that is
> >
> > P.S.
> > if you are a QRPer you know the Stew Perry
> > is the ONLY contest 160m or anywhere,
> > that we are treated with any respect by the rest of hamdom.
> > You have it we will come! Nuff said
> > --
> > GB & 73
> > K5OAI
> > Sam Morgan
> >
> > On 3/18/2012 12:01 PM, Tree wrote:
> > > Think of the June Stew as an activity night. No weekend is going to be
> > > without conflicts - but maybe the die hard 160 types will show up and
> > hand
> > > out some QSOs. Here are the results from last year:
> > >
> > > http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/SummerStew2011.txt
> > >
> > > The top QSO total was 94 QSOs. Not a lot - but more than you would have
> > > worked on most other evenings.:-) This was the first running of the
> > > event - so hopefully, there will be a bit more activity the second time.
> > ___
> > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
> >
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
  
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread DAVID CUTHBERT
Perhaps during the summer months we should forgo QRP.

Dave WX7G
On Mar 18, 2012 11:29 AM, "Sam Morgan"  wrote:

> I know I tried very hard to participate last year,
> mother nature had it in for us here in WTX DM91sk
>
> if you check that list there were only two '5's listed
> one was in MS the other in KY
>
> but I'll for sure give it another try this year
> any Stew Perry test, any time, QRPers will be there
> if thunderstorms permit that is
>
> P.S.
> if you are a QRPer you know the Stew Perry
> is the ONLY contest 160m or anywhere,
> that we are treated with any respect by the rest of hamdom.
> You have it we will come! Nuff said
> --
> GB & 73
> K5OAI
> Sam Morgan
>
> On 3/18/2012 12:01 PM, Tree wrote:
> > Think of the June Stew as an activity night.  No weekend is going to be
> > without conflicts - but maybe the die hard 160 types will show up and
> hand
> > out some QSOs.  Here are the results from last year:
> >
> > http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/SummerStew2011.txt
> >
> > The top QSO total was 94 QSOs.  Not a lot - but more than you would have
> > worked on most other evenings.:-)   This was the first running of the
> > event - so hopefully, there will be a bit more activity the second time.
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread James Rodenkirch

You can count me in as a QRP entry, Sam - yep, LUV the Stew...we QRPers are 
worth more 'bout that time than others.  Hi Hi  Jim R. K9JWV

 

 

> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:28:17 -0500
> From: k5oai@gmail.com
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please
> 
> I know I tried very hard to participate last year,
> mother nature had it in for us here in WTX DM91sk
> 
> if you check that list there were only two '5's listed
> one was in MS the other in KY
> 
> but I'll for sure give it another try this year
> any Stew Perry test, any time, QRPers will be there
> if thunderstorms permit that is
> 
> P.S.
> if you are a QRPer you know the Stew Perry
> is the ONLY contest 160m or anywhere,
> that we are treated with any respect by the rest of hamdom.
> You have it we will come! Nuff said
> --
> GB & 73
> K5OAI
> Sam Morgan
> 
> On 3/18/2012 12:01 PM, Tree wrote:
> > Think of the June Stew as an activity night. No weekend is going to be
> > without conflicts - but maybe the die hard 160 types will show up and hand
> > out some QSOs. Here are the results from last year:
> >
> > http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/SummerStew2011.txt
> >
> > The top QSO total was 94 QSOs. Not a lot - but more than you would have
> > worked on most other evenings.:-) This was the first running of the
> > event - so hopefully, there will be a bit more activity the second time.
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
  
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Sam Morgan
I know I tried very hard to participate last year,
mother nature had it in for us here in WTX DM91sk

if you check that list there were only two '5's listed
one was in MS the other in KY

but I'll for sure give it another try this year
any Stew Perry test, any time, QRPers will be there
if thunderstorms permit that is

P.S.
if you are a QRPer you know the Stew Perry
is the ONLY contest 160m or anywhere,
that we are treated with any respect by the rest of hamdom.
You have it we will come! Nuff said
--
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 3/18/2012 12:01 PM, Tree wrote:
> Think of the June Stew as an activity night.  No weekend is going to be
> without conflicts - but maybe the die hard 160 types will show up and hand
> out some QSOs.  Here are the results from last year:
>
> http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/SummerStew2011.txt
>
> The top QSO total was 94 QSOs.  Not a lot - but more than you would have
> worked on most other evenings.:-)   This was the first running of the
> event - so hopefully, there will be a bit more activity the second time.
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Tree
A couple of comments.

The June Stew is the weekend before field day.

There is activity from the IARU on 160 meters as multipliers count once per
band.  I remember having some fun there for the first 5 or 10 minutes of
the contest back when there was a bit more activity from the South
Pacific.  Also - quite easy to work a few JAs if they are around.  The east
coast guys can even work some of the HQ multipliers that we can't hear on
the west coast.  Maybe some dedicated activity hours?   Maybe like
0400-0800 UTC or something (which leaves out some people obviously).  Don't
expect to work KL7.

Think of the June Stew as an activity night.  No weekend is going to be
without conflicts - but maybe the die hard 160 types will show up and hand
out some QSOs.  Here are the results from last year:

http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/SummerStew2011.txt

The top QSO total was 94 QSOs.  Not a lot - but more than you would have
worked on most other evenings.  :-)  This was the first running of the
event - so hopefully, there will be a bit more activity the second time.

Tree N6TR
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:31 AM, DAVID CUTHBERT wrote:

> I beleive there is the issue holding the June Stew on Field Day; there will
> not be many serious efforts on top band.
>
> Do we need four hour top band contests or an occasional QSO party?
> Something less formal than a full blown contest?
>
>   Dave WX7G
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Jim Brown  >wrote:
>
> > On 3/18/2012 6:55 AM, Steve London wrote:
> > > Hence, my suggestion to make the already-popular, all-HF-band, SSB/CW,
> > IARU HF
> > > contest the summer 160 meter event.
> >
> > The problem with that approach is that no one attempting a serious
> > effort in IARU is going to be on 160M.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> > ___
> > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
> >
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Steve London
IARU HF contest isn't Field Day. They are two weeks apart.

On 03/18/2012 10:31 AM, DAVID CUTHBERT wrote:
> I beleive there is the issue holding the June Stew on Field Day; there will
> not be many serious efforts on top band.
>
> Do we need four hour top band contests or an occasional QSO party?
> Something less formal than a full blown contest?
>
> Dave WX7G
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Jim Brownwrote:
>
>> On 3/18/2012 6:55 AM, Steve London wrote:
>>> Hence, my suggestion to make the already-popular, all-HF-band, SSB/CW,
>> IARU HF
>>> contest the summer 160 meter event.
>>
>> The problem with that approach is that no one attempting a serious
>> effort in IARU is going to be on 160M.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> ___
>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>>
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread DAVID CUTHBERT
I beleive there is the issue holding the June Stew on Field Day; there will
not be many serious efforts on top band.

Do we need four hour top band contests or an occasional QSO party?
Something less formal than a full blown contest?

   Dave WX7G

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 3/18/2012 6:55 AM, Steve London wrote:
> > Hence, my suggestion to make the already-popular, all-HF-band, SSB/CW,
> IARU HF
> > contest the summer 160 meter event.
>
> The problem with that approach is that no one attempting a serious
> effort in IARU is going to be on 160M.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/18/2012 6:55 AM, Steve London wrote:
> Hence, my suggestion to make the already-popular, all-HF-band, SSB/CW, IARU HF
> contest the summer 160 meter event.

The problem with that approach is that no one attempting a serious 
effort in IARU is going to be on 160M.

73, Jim K9YC
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
On 3/18/2012 9:55 AM, Steve London wrote:
> On 03/17/2012 08:12 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 3/17/2012 6:34 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>>> Four 24 hour Stew's a year is a good deal, at the equinoxes and the
>>> soltices.
>> While I LOVE the concept of the Stew, it seriously lacks critical mass,
>> even in the main event in December.  As a result, I always finding
>> myself taking frequent breaks during the evening and going QRT from
>> boredom by 1 am or so.
>>
>> It has seemed to me that adding the July and October runnings of the
>> Stew are even more poorly attended, and have also served to dilute
>> interest in the Dec event.  While I'd love to see topband activity
>> spread around the calendar, far more effort is needed to get more folks
>> to participate.
> Hence, my suggestion to make the already-popular, all-HF-band, SSB/CW, IARU HF
> contest the summer 160 meter event. The ITU zones that make up the exchange
> don't provide quite the same geographic granularity as grid squares, but they
> can still be used to provide a distance-based metric.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC


> In most competition whether major or minor league sports or even NASCAR or 
> Indie races the importance or a warm up is very crucial to the outcome in 
> most cases.
   Herb, KV4FZ
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UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-18 Thread Steve London
On 03/17/2012 08:12 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 3/17/2012 6:34 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>> Four 24 hour Stew's a year is a good deal, at the equinoxes and the
>> soltices.
>
> While I LOVE the concept of the Stew, it seriously lacks critical mass,
> even in the main event in December.  As a result, I always finding
> myself taking frequent breaks during the evening and going QRT from
> boredom by 1 am or so.
>
> It has seemed to me that adding the July and October runnings of the
> Stew are even more poorly attended, and have also served to dilute
> interest in the Dec event.  While I'd love to see topband activity
> spread around the calendar, far more effort is needed to get more folks
> to participate.

Hence, my suggestion to make the already-popular, all-HF-band, SSB/CW, IARU HF 
contest the summer 160 meter event. The ITU zones that make up the exchange 
don't provide quite the same geographic granularity as grid squares, but they 
can still be used to provide a distance-based metric.

73,
Steve, N2IC
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread W5JR - Mike
I like the Stew, however, it typically falls at a time when I've traveled away 
from home for the holidays and don't have access to a station or am actually 
traveling during the Stew weekend. Bummer. 

This year, the timing was different enough to operate the event and condx 
turned out to be less than stellar from QTH. 

I would like more 160 events but I doubt my station would be able to work any 
DX in the summer months. 

tnx
Mike

On Mar 17, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 3/17/2012 6:34 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>> Four 24 hour Stew's a year is a good deal, at the equinoxes and the
>> soltices.
> 
> While I LOVE the concept of the Stew, it seriously lacks critical mass, 
> even in the main event in December.  As a result, I always finding 
> myself taking frequent breaks during the evening and going QRT from 
> boredom by 1 am or so.
> 
> It has seemed to me that adding the July and October runnings of the 
> Stew are even more poorly attended, and have also served to dilute 
> interest in the Dec event.  While I'd love to see topband activity 
> spread around the calendar, far more effort is needed to get more folks 
> to participate.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/17/2012 6:34 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Four 24 hour Stew's a year is a good deal, at the equinoxes and the
> soltices.

While I LOVE the concept of the Stew, it seriously lacks critical mass, 
even in the main event in December.  As a result, I always finding 
myself taking frequent breaks during the evening and going QRT from 
boredom by 1 am or so.

It has seemed to me that adding the July and October runnings of the 
Stew are even more poorly attended, and have also served to dilute 
interest in the Dec event.  While I'd love to see topband activity 
spread around the calendar, far more effort is needed to get more folks 
to participate.

73, Jim K9YC
___
UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
IARU is an all-band contest, be a lot of topbanders on other bands for
score.

Four 24 hour Stew's a year is a good deal, at the equinoxes and the
soltices.  Then you can forget the practice Stew.  Also get into the
business that for spring, summer, fall there's only 24  hours to get logs
in after the contest, and results out on web as soon as the program runs.
No paper submissions.  Certificates, etc from the December Stew only. Some
rewards from the cumulative of the four contest for the year?

73, Guy.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Steve London  wrote:

> On 03/17/2012 07:44 AM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:
> > Please no!  Let the Stew be the Stew. It is the best and fairest TB
> > contest ever devised by mankind.  I wouldn't mind if we had one every
> > month especially at the summer solstice,  vernal and autumnal equinox
> > when those in the southern hemisphere could have even more kick.  Plus
> > the IARU has those nonsense QTC's which would be totally inappropriate
> > for TB DXing.
>
> No, the IARU HF contest does NOT have QTC's. You are confusing it with the
> WAE
> contest.
>
> The IARU exchange is 59(9) + ITU Zone. The ITU zones are smaller than the
> CQWW
> zones, and would provide a good distance-based mapping. See
> http://www4.plala.or.jp/nomrax/ITU/index.html for a map of the ITU zones.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
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> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
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Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Steve London
On 03/17/2012 07:44 AM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:
> Please no!  Let the Stew be the Stew. It is the best and fairest TB
> contest ever devised by mankind.  I wouldn't mind if we had one every
> month especially at the summer solstice,  vernal and autumnal equinox
> when those in the southern hemisphere could have even more kick.  Plus
> the IARU has those nonsense QTC's which would be totally inappropriate
> for TB DXing.

No, the IARU HF contest does NOT have QTC's. You are confusing it with the WAE 
contest.

The IARU exchange is 59(9) + ITU Zone. The ITU zones are smaller than the CQWW 
zones, and would provide a good distance-based mapping. See 
http://www4.plala.or.jp/nomrax/ITU/index.html for a map of the ITU zones.

73,
Steve, N2IC

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Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Please no!  Let the Stew be the Stew. It is the best and fairest TB 
contest ever devised by mankind.  I wouldn't mind if we had one every 
month especially at the summer solstice,  vernal and autumnal equinox 
when those in the southern hemisphere could have even more kick.  Plus 
the IARU has those nonsense QTC's which would be totally inappropriate 
for TB DXing.


Herb, KV4FZ




On 3/17/2012 9:18 AM, Steve London wrote:
> I'll throw out a related suggestion. Why not use the IARU HF contest as the
> "summertime" 160 contest ? It's 24 hours long and has excellent worldwide
> activity on all bands except 160 meters.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
> On 03/17/2012 05:12 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>> Dear OMs and Yls
>>
>>A July Stew Perry is an excellent idea!!!We need something to temp
>> more onto the band during the noisy season.   One tunes the band a number of
>> times and hears nothing and so resorts to HF.A good effort in high
>> summer for the northern latitudes might clear our ears.   Even if our
>> receive antennas were largely down, a contest might bring some of us out.
>> A summer contest could also make the K9AY and magnetic loop antennas have
>> more justification for their existence.A July Stew Perry would be a fair
>> handshake to the southern hemisphere and their efforts during the warm
>> months.   Please bring it on
>>
>>
>>
>>   73 Doug EI2CN
>>
>>
>>
>> PS Yes a summer contest, well Top Band Operators like pain.
>>
>> ___
>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>>
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Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Steve London
I'll throw out a related suggestion. Why not use the IARU HF contest as the 
"summertime" 160 contest ? It's 24 hours long and has excellent worldwide 
activity on all bands except 160 meters.

73,
Steve, N2IC

On 03/17/2012 05:12 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
> Dear OMs and Yls
>
>   A July Stew Perry is an excellent idea!!!We need something to temp
> more onto the band during the noisy season.   One tunes the band a number of
> times and hears nothing and so resorts to HF.A good effort in high
> summer for the northern latitudes might clear our ears.   Even if our
> receive antennas were largely down, a contest might bring some of us out.
> A summer contest could also make the K9AY and magnetic loop antennas have
> more justification for their existence.A July Stew Perry would be a fair
> handshake to the southern hemisphere and their efforts during the warm
> months.   Please bring it on
>
>
>
>  73 Doug EI2CN
>
>
>
> PS Yes a summer contest, well Top Band Operators like pain.
>
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
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Re: Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Felipe Ceglia
I like the idea, at least I will make some DX when band is not that noisy!

My eardrums say thanks! hihi

73,

Felipe Ceglia - PY1NB
-
PR1T team member /// Rio DX Group member /// Araucaria DX Group member
http://dxwatch.com /// http://reversebeacon.net /// http://riodxgroup.com



On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Doug Turnbull  wrote:

> Dear OMs and Yls
>
> A July Stew Perry is an excellent idea!!!We need something to temp
> more onto the band during the noisy season.   One tunes the band a number
> of
> times and hears nothing and so resorts to HF.A good effort in high
> summer for the northern latitudes might clear our ears.   Even if our
> receive antennas were largely down, a contest might bring some of us out.
> A summer contest could also make the K9AY and magnetic loop antennas have
> more justification for their existence.A July Stew Perry would be a
> fair
> handshake to the southern hemisphere and their efforts during the warm
> months.   Please bring it on
>
>
>
>73 Doug EI2CN
>
>
>
> PS Yes a summer contest, well Top Band Operators like pain.
>
> ___
> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>
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UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Topband: July Stew Perry Please!!!!

2012-03-17 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs and Yls

 A July Stew Perry is an excellent idea!!!We need something to temp
more onto the band during the noisy season.   One tunes the band a number of
times and hears nothing and so resorts to HF.A good effort in high
summer for the northern latitudes might clear our ears.   Even if our
receive antennas were largely down, a contest might bring some of us out.
A summer contest could also make the K9AY and magnetic loop antennas have
more justification for their existence.A July Stew Perry would be a fair
handshake to the southern hemisphere and their efforts during the warm
months.   Please bring it on

 

73 Doug EI2CN

 

PS Yes a summer contest, well Top Band Operators like pain.

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UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK