Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-19 Thread Speak Freely
Another update.

Nothing to report.

None of the exits I changed to guard changed their consensus weight.
I spun up a brand new guard relay last week, and it also is stuck at 20.

So, my one relay that was an exit but then put to guard which was then
reverted back to exit is - dun dun dun - a complete one off.

Curse words and middle fingers.



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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-15 Thread Speak Freely
Further update:

I changed two other affected relays to guard last night.

The consensus weight didn't budge at all and bandwidth usage was
negligible, so I've deleted all my onion keys for those two relays.

So these relays are starting fresh. We'll see how it goes. I'm going to
wait until I get some flags and see a measured speed of anything above
160b/s, as I'll assume this means regardless of actual accuracy, the
bwauths have been able to determine *something* about me, then I'll
switch the flip back to exit. This should take a while, as they have to
go through the different stages again.

My first relay's consensus weight hasn't budged yet, but it was in the
thousands before I changed from guard to exit, so I'm not concerned - it
hasn't dropped is the point I'm trying to make.

The first relay is now finally being used appropriately, at 13Mb/s in
and out each. Since last evening I've done over 250GB in/out.

Arm is still reporting the measured speed as 45Kb/s.

Relay that is now working
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/D60B02A13F5D9CAFD6EC27A5332C5FEF5B769105

You can see from March to near the end of April, as an exit relay, damn
near nothing was going on. Around April 20th I changed it to guard, and
activity finally started happening. Yesterday I switch back to exit, and
you can clearly see the exit probability jump. :)


For comparison:
https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/034A61A65419B5A115A7B6B253CAC4C9D5731E02

Like the other relay, it's consensus never went above 20. However, when
I switched the flip to guard, the middle and guard probability increase
was technically present, but negligible. 0.0002% and 0.0001%, respectively.
Because the first relay's consensus weight responded almost immediately
to the change, I arbitrarily decided the problem for the other two
relays was not fixed. So I deleted the keys and am starting over to see
if that helps any.

And here we are.


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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-14 Thread nusenu
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Speak Freely:
 It seems like the most pertinent task would be to fix the problem,
 not display it.
 
 Just saying...

I agree.
Do we know already which relays are affected and why?
teor asked in the trac entry as well.

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/13450
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-14 Thread Speak Freely
From my experience, this happens only with exit relays. Changing from
an exit relay to a guard fixes the problem immediately.

I've seen past threads that mentioned deleting your id key would fix
the problem, but that never fixed it for me. But that is also
counter-intuitive given that going from exit to guard while keeping
the same id fixes the problem. If I recall correctly, going back to
exit causes the problem to re-appear - I will see if I can confirm
that again with one of my guards-that-was-exit.

The common theme I keep seeing is that the bwauths need to fix their
systems, but beyond that, or which part of their system, I don't know.


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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-14 Thread nusenu
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Speak Freely:
 From my experience, this happens only with exit relays. Changing
 from
 an exit relay to a guard fixes the problem immediately.
 
 I've seen past threads that mentioned deleting your id key would
 fix the problem, but that never fixed it for me. But that is also 
 counter-intuitive given that going from exit to guard while
 keeping the same id fixes the problem. If I recall correctly, going
 back to exit causes the problem to re-appear - I will see if I can
 confirm that again with one of my guards-that-was-exit.
 
 The common theme I keep seeing is that the bwauths need to fix
 their systems, but beyond that, or which part of their system, I
 don't know.

thanks for that post. please add that (or a pointer to it) also in the
trac bug entry.
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-14 Thread Speak Freely
A quick update regarding my guard-that-was-exit.

This relay, when it was an exit relay, never got past consensus weight
of 20. When I changed it to guard, the consensus weight immediately
jumped, and bandwidth was finally starting to be used. As usual, it
took a few days for full usage, but it did come.

Instead of measured bandwidth at 20b/s, it now read 45kb/s. Though arm
indicated the average speed was 7-11Mb/s.

A few hours ago I switched that relay back to exit, and so far
everything looks goodish. The measured bandwidth still says 45Kb/s.

I'm now averaging 10.6Mb/s, and have downloaded 16GB and uploaded 17GB
since my last email.

In arm, I lost my HSDir flag, but I have received Exit flag, and have
just over 500 exit connections and 1700 in/out connections.

The consensus weight, or anything for that matter, hasn't changed in
Atlas yet, but that's not terribly surprising. There were recent
changes in how/when Atlas report things now, right?


So... perhaps I just found a fix? Err... Workaround. This isn't a fix.

I'll take a look at doing this to the other relays to see if this
fixes the problem for them as well.

Maybe some other people can do the same thing to confirm?

1) Comment out your ExitPolicy accept rules
2) service tor restart
2) Run the relay as a middle/guard until you see in Atlas your
consensus weight rises - it should rise within a few hours, but seeing
as how your relay isn't working anyway - you can try to wait a day to
make sure all those bwauths pick you up.
3) Uncomment your ExitPolicy accept rules
4) service tor restart
5) Report your status back.



How exciting!

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-14 Thread nusenu
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In the light of this thread I made an onionoo (- atlas) feature
request to display the Unmeasured=1 flag on atlas (eventually).

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/16020

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-11 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi,

This is a known problem; the bandwidth authorities need to be worked on.
See for example

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/13450
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/4359

There's no timeline set yet on when this will be fixed.

On 05/10/2015 09:48 PM, Marcus Wahle wrote:
 I had a look at 
 https://collector.torproject.org/recent/relay-descriptors/consensuses/2015-05-10-19-00-00-consensus
 There you can find 874 relays with the „flag“ Bandwidth=20 Unmeasured=1“…
 I don’t think this is normal… 
 Can anybody have a look at this?!
 
 Best regards,
 Marcus
 
 
 Am 10.05.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Marcus Wahle marcus.freif...@gmx.de:

 Hey I have almost the same problem with my relay 
 (https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DABC2440E9EAAEDB23F150CF95656405917A7829)
 I stuck to Consensus Weight: 20 since over one week. If I look at the 
 collected data“ I se the „unmetered = 1“ comment. :(

 Any Ideas how to fix this? Is this the normal and wanted behavior?

 Best regards,
 Marcus

 Am 10.05.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Network Operations Center 
 n...@schokomil.ch:

 hey,

 can you do me a favor and remove the exit status of your relay and turn it 
 into a regular node? I experienced the same problem as you:

 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600

 but ever since I removed the exit-flag I am generating some consensus 
 rating again. This problem first popped during the last days of 2014 and up 
 until now there hasn't been any reliable fix. Apparently even deleting the 
 ID of your tor-node didn't help according to one user.

 On 10.05.2015 07:05 AM, Larry Brandt wrote:
 yes
 I have experienced the same problem on my exit relay:
 DDC6C968B3DFD156C97FD71808758D251B66DBB2
 My relay lost the stable flag due to a inadvertent shut-down a few days 
 back.
 LB
 On 5/9/2015 1:38 PM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a Tor relay
 (https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
 running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
 connection.
 I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay has
 not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
 Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.
 I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
 that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
 (86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be calculating
 any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.
 Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
 operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem get
 resolved?
 Thanks,
 Neel Chauhan
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-11 Thread Speak Freely
I'll be shutting down 5 of my unmetered 100mbit relays until they are fixed.


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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-11 Thread Larry Brandt

Thanks for the response Moritz.   L Brandt

On 5/10/2015 11:26 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote:

Hi,

This is a known problem; the bandwidth authorities need to be worked on.
See for example

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/13450
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/4359

There's no timeline set yet on when this will be fixed.

On 05/10/2015 09:48 PM, Marcus Wahle wrote:

I had a look at 
https://collector.torproject.org/recent/relay-descriptors/consensuses/2015-05-10-19-00-00-consensus
There you can find 874 relays with the „flag“ Bandwidth=20 Unmeasured=1“…
I don’t think this is normal…
Can anybody have a look at this?!

Best regards,
Marcus



Am 10.05.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Marcus Wahle marcus.freif...@gmx.de:

Hey I have almost the same problem with my relay 
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DABC2440E9EAAEDB23F150CF95656405917A7829)
I stuck to Consensus Weight: 20 since over one week. If I look at the 
collected data“ I se the „unmetered = 1“ comment. :(

Any Ideas how to fix this? Is this the normal and wanted behavior?

Best regards,
Marcus


Am 10.05.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Network Operations Center n...@schokomil.ch:

hey,

can you do me a favor and remove the exit status of your relay and turn it into 
a regular node? I experienced the same problem as you:

https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600

but ever since I removed the exit-flag I am generating some consensus rating 
again. This problem first popped during the last days of 2014 and up until now 
there hasn't been any reliable fix. Apparently even deleting the ID of your 
tor-node didn't help according to one user.

On 10.05.2015 07:05 AM, Larry Brandt wrote:

yes
I have experienced the same problem on my exit relay:
DDC6C968B3DFD156C97FD71808758D251B66DBB2
My relay lost the stable flag due to a inadvertent shut-down a few days back.
LB
On 5/9/2015 1:38 PM, Neel Chauhan wrote:

Hi,
I have a Tor relay
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
connection.
I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay has
not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.
I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
(86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be calculating
any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.
Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem get
resolved?
Thanks,
Neel Chauhan
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-10 Thread Network Operations Center

hey,

can you do me a favor and remove the exit status of your relay and turn 
it into a regular node? I experienced the same problem as you:


https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600

but ever since I removed the exit-flag I am generating some consensus 
rating again. This problem first popped during the last days of 2014 and 
up until now there hasn't been any reliable fix. Apparently even 
deleting the ID of your tor-node didn't help according to one user.


On 10.05.2015 07:05 AM, Larry Brandt wrote:

yes

I have experienced the same problem on my exit relay:
DDC6C968B3DFD156C97FD71808758D251B66DBB2

My relay lost the stable flag due to a inadvertent shut-down a few days 
back.


LB

On 5/9/2015 1:38 PM, Neel Chauhan wrote:

Hi,
I have a Tor relay
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
connection.

I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay 
has

not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.

I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
(86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be 
calculating

any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.

Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem 
get

resolved?

Thanks,
Neel Chauhan

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-10 Thread Marcus Wahle
Hey I have almost the same problem with my relay 
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DABC2440E9EAAEDB23F150CF95656405917A7829)
I stuck to Consensus Weight: 20 since over one week. If I look at the 
collected data“ I se the „unmetered = 1“ comment. :(

Any Ideas how to fix this? Is this the normal and wanted behavior?

Best regards,
Marcus

 Am 10.05.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Network Operations Center n...@schokomil.ch:
 
 hey,
 
 can you do me a favor and remove the exit status of your relay and turn it 
 into a regular node? I experienced the same problem as you:
 
 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600
 
 but ever since I removed the exit-flag I am generating some consensus rating 
 again. This problem first popped during the last days of 2014 and up until 
 now there hasn't been any reliable fix. Apparently even deleting the ID of 
 your tor-node didn't help according to one user.
 
 On 10.05.2015 07:05 AM, Larry Brandt wrote:
 yes
 I have experienced the same problem on my exit relay:
 DDC6C968B3DFD156C97FD71808758D251B66DBB2
 My relay lost the stable flag due to a inadvertent shut-down a few days back.
 LB
 On 5/9/2015 1:38 PM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a Tor relay
 (https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
 running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
 connection.
 I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay has
 not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
 Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.
 I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
 that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
 (86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be calculating
 any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.
 Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
 operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem get
 resolved?
 Thanks,
 Neel Chauhan
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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-10 Thread Marcus Wahle
I had a look at 
https://collector.torproject.org/recent/relay-descriptors/consensuses/2015-05-10-19-00-00-consensus
There you can find 874 relays with the „flag“ Bandwidth=20 Unmeasured=1“…
I don’t think this is normal… 
Can anybody have a look at this?!

Best regards,
Marcus


 Am 10.05.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Marcus Wahle marcus.freif...@gmx.de:
 
 Hey I have almost the same problem with my relay 
 (https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/DABC2440E9EAAEDB23F150CF95656405917A7829)
 I stuck to Consensus Weight: 20 since over one week. If I look at the 
 collected data“ I se the „unmetered = 1“ comment. :(
 
 Any Ideas how to fix this? Is this the normal and wanted behavior?
 
 Best regards,
 Marcus
 
 Am 10.05.2015 um 13:54 schrieb Network Operations Center n...@schokomil.ch:
 
 hey,
 
 can you do me a favor and remove the exit status of your relay and turn it 
 into a regular node? I experienced the same problem as you:
 
 https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/3D7E274A87D9A89AF064C13D1EE4CA1F184F2600
 
 but ever since I removed the exit-flag I am generating some consensus rating 
 again. This problem first popped during the last days of 2014 and up until 
 now there hasn't been any reliable fix. Apparently even deleting the ID of 
 your tor-node didn't help according to one user.
 
 On 10.05.2015 07:05 AM, Larry Brandt wrote:
 yes
 I have experienced the same problem on my exit relay:
 DDC6C968B3DFD156C97FD71808758D251B66DBB2
 My relay lost the stable flag due to a inadvertent shut-down a few days 
 back.
 LB
 On 5/9/2015 1:38 PM, Neel Chauhan wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a Tor relay
 (https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
 running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
 connection.
 I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay has
 not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
 Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.
 I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
 that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
 (86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be calculating
 any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.
 Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
 operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem get
 resolved?
 Thanks,
 Neel Chauhan
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[tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-09 Thread Neel Chauhan
Hi,
I have a Tor relay
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
connection.

I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay has
not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.

I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
(86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be calculating
any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.

Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem get
resolved?

Thanks,
Neel Chauhan

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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Consensus Weight Stuck at 20 (Even on Relay with Stable Flag)

2015-05-09 Thread Larry Brandt

yes

I have experienced the same problem on my exit relay: 
DDC6C968B3DFD156C97FD71808758D251B66DBB2


My relay lost the stable flag due to a inadvertent shut-down a few days 
back.


LB

On 5/9/2015 1:38 PM, Neel Chauhan wrote:

Hi,
I have a Tor relay
(https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/342587A287603040A49BB364D72EAC0B6BC3D71A)
running from a FreeBSD server at my house on with a 5 megabit upstream
connection.

I have seen that lately, Tor's Consensus Weight value on this relay has
not been going anywhere above (or below) 20. My relay has gotten the
Stable flag, but yet didn't see it's consensus weight value rise.

I decided to look at https://consensus-health.torproject.org/, and saw
that two of the four bandwidth consensus servers, namely tor26
(86.59.21.38) and longclaw (199.254.238.52) don't seem to be calculating
any consensus value for Tor relays in the last few days.

Has anyone else been having this problem? And if the Tor consensus
operators are reading this, (approximately) when would this problem get
resolved?

Thanks,
Neel Chauhan

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