Re: [tor-talk] Is it going to extradite Jacob to usa?
The Fembots/Himbots collective has been formed and will change the way of the world as we know it. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Cecilia Tanakawrote: > On Jun 8, 2016 9:41 PM, wroce: > >>> Maybe it is a good advice to ask which citizenship the sex partner is > and in which country to have sex considering later allegations. or to do a > contract beforehand... > > I am writing some legal contracts to use before _and_ after any sexual > intercourse. Suggestions of legal terms for avoiding a future public > lynching and being harrassed by hypocrite governments (all of them!), > please? :-) > > After reading all these stories of "victims", I am almost giving up of sex > forever, aff... Crazy people, citizen origin of partners, diseases, > pregnancy and public lynching in hacker communities and media... Sex is a > too much dangerous and stressing thing nowadays!! :(( > > In any case, I think to keep some contracts already ready for use always > will be interesting, haha!! I am almost writing also a "satisfaction > survey" just to avoid some process for "few orgasms" or another bizarre > situation, haha!! ;D > > "Oh, Cecilia, you made me feel bad about myself because, ten years ago, you > didn't scream of pleasure loudly enough for all the neighbourhood knows > that I am a good lover! Now I have several traums because of it and I will > destroy your whole life and say in all hacker communities that you are > colder than Russian Winter!" :((( > > This kind of perspective is not sexy at all, uff... :((( > > Not sexual and not romantical kisses for you all! Have a lovely night and > sweet dreams! :* > > Cecilia, cecilying a bit instead answering to serious messages... ;) > > Sorry, after being strongly kicked for some "friends" just for believing > that Jake is innocent, I do need some fun with extreme urgency, ugh! > Creepy people always are disgusting! :P > > At least, I never loved so much my ex-partners. Sane cute ex-boyfriends > are a rare thing nowadays and I was pretty lucky, yay!!! ;D > -- > tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." ~ W. Somerset Maugham "The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge." ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] BlackHat2014: Deanonymize Tor for $3000
Best guess, many client side and web app attacks Tor can't do much about. (My talk at Defcon will cover a bunch of folks that got Deanonymized, but in every case it was not Tor that was really broke) Adrian On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:49 PM, krishna e bera k...@cyblings.on.ca wrote: On 14-07-03 02:05 PM, grarpamp wrote: You Don't Have to be the NSA to Break Tor: Deanonymizing Users on a Budget Alexander Volynkin / Michael McCord if they have followed a responsible disclosure process, tor developers should already be working on remedies... -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Case examples of people deanonymized while using Tor?
Sorry, I forgot to come back to post this Dropping Docs On Darknets: How People Got Caught - Adrian Crenshaw http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/showmecon2014/2-03-dropping-docs-on-darknets-how-people-got-caught-adrian-crenshaw It was also accepted at Defcon, but Defcon is a pretty geeky crowd and I should not have to spend as much time to explain how Tor works to them. What other things should I add? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 09:16:46AM +, Adrian Crenshaw wrote: It will be public after ShowMeCon. Going to do a private one next week as practice. Can you paste link on talk here after ShowMeCon please? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Case examples of people deanonymized while using Tor?
In hindsight, most don't have time to watch, so here are the slides if you want to wade through them: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfen626aruv89b3/Dropping%20Docs%20on%20Darknets%20How%20People%20Got%20Caught.pptx On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Adrian Crenshaw irong...@irongeek.com wrote: Sorry, I forgot to come back to post this Dropping Docs On Darknets: How People Got Caught - Adrian Crenshaw http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/showmecon2014/2-03-dropping-docs-on-darknets-how-people-got-caught-adrian-crenshaw It was also accepted at Defcon, but Defcon is a pretty geeky crowd and I should not have to spend as much time to explain how Tor works to them. What other things should I add? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 09:16:46AM +, Adrian Crenshaw wrote: It will be public after ShowMeCon. Going to do a private one next week as practice. Can you paste link on talk here after ShowMeCon please? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Case examples of people deanonymized while using Tor?
I reuse some alot of slides, just a different focus. I did Intro to Darknets: Tor and I2P Workshop first, and it is a lot longer because I show how to set things up, but it does not have as much detail about how people got caught. Adrian On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Soul Plane soulplan...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the video. On your website there is another video Intro to Darknets: Tor and I2P Workshop. Is one part of the other or do they cover different material? On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Adrian Crenshaw irong...@irongeek.com wrote: Sorry, I forgot to come back to post this Dropping Docs On Darknets: How People Got Caught - Adrian Crenshaw http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/showmecon2014/2-03-dropping-docs-on-darknets-how-people-got-caught-adrian-crenshaw It was also accepted at Defcon, but Defcon is a pretty geeky crowd and I should not have to spend as much time to explain how Tor works to them. What other things should I add? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Артур Истомин art.is...@yandex.ru wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 09:16:46AM +, Adrian Crenshaw wrote: It will be public after ShowMeCon. Going to do a private one next week as practice. Can you paste link on talk here after ShowMeCon please? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Case examples of people deanonymized while using Tor?
It will be public after ShowMeCon. Going to do a private one next week as practice. Adrian On Wednesday, March 19, 2014, Soul Plane soulplan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Adrian Crenshaw irong...@irongeek.comjavascript:; wrote: Hi all, I'm working on a talk that will be on real life examples of people being caught while using Tor, and how it can be avoided. If your talk is public can you share it here, it sounds interesting. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org javascript:; To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Case examples of people deanonymized while using Tor?
Hi all, I'm working on a talk that will be on real life examples of people being caught while using Tor, and how it can be avoided. Basically it will cover screw ups people make. I've already researched case examples like Eldo Kim Harvard the Harvard Bomb Threat, Hector Xavier Monsegur (Sabu)/Jeremy Hammond (sup_g) LulzSec, Freedom Hosting Eric Eoin Marques and Ross William Ulbricht/Dread Pirate Roberts of the SilkRoad. Any other notable cases I can look into? Thanks, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Intro to Darknets video on Tor and I2P
Glad you like it. Adrian On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Hyoung-Kee Choi meos...@skku.edu wrote: Nice work, Andrian. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Adrian Crenshaw irong...@irongeek.com wrote: Here is a class we put on at a local university that covers using Tor and I2P http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/intro-to-tor-i2p-darknets likely it's not something most on this list would get very much out of, but it might be useful to some getting started with Tor. Thanks, Adrian -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Harvard student used Tor to send bomb threats, gets caught by old-fashioned policework
Not a lot of real details (and in case someone stumbles on this email outside of the list, I'm not trying to explain how he could have gotten away with it). I assume Harvard: 1. Either tracks folks that connect to Tor entry nodes, or Tor's download website. or 2. The looked at the X-Originating-IP: email header (Strangely, when I tested Guerrillamail put my IP in this header). then: Figured it was Tor traffic, and looked to see who was using Tor on the campus network, and associate the MAC address with who signed on to their wireless. The guy apparently confessed, but they may not have really had anything on him besides using Tor. The cops may have said Tell the truth and we will go easy on you, which was not in his best interest. Adrian On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Nils Kunze kunze.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I stumbeled upon this on facebook [1] where Nicolas Kristof wrote: A Harvard student has been charged with using an anonymous email address and Tor to disguise his identity, and then sending a bomb threat to get out of a final exam. What's remarkable to me that he was caught despite taking smart steps to hide his identity. Here's the FBI affidavit explaining how they caught him: [2] Apparently he used Tor in the university network to send the emails via Guerrilla Mail. The university was able to figure out which student used Tor in their network before the emails where sent and he then confessed when confronted. I thought this might be of interest! Best, Nils [1] https://www.facebook.com/kristof/posts/10152046960187891 (attention links to facebook) [2] http://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/kimeldoharvard.pdf -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Media: VICE Magazine about the Darknet
Nice, thanks. I like Vice's min-documentaries. Adrian On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote: http://motherboard.vice.com/de/blog/eine-dokumentation-ueber-das-darknet Featuring Karsten Nohl an me. They cut some of my most important sentences, but all in all the thing is okay. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers.net/ -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] What's written to HD?
But don't some LIveCDs write to swap space on the local hard drive IF they see one? Adrian On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Greg Norcie g...@norcie.com wrote: If you're on a Live CD, everything should stay in the RAM, unless you really jump through hoops to write to the HD. In that case (barring a cold boot attack, which is far fetched), any data you downloaded will be gone. On a normal PC anything saved or opened is stored on the HD though. Live CDs are special, everything runs in RAM. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 11/11/12 3:19 PM, Dan Hughes wrote: Hello, Does browsing with TBB installed on the HD or a USB stick and downloading files (.PDFs, SM vids etc.;)) to a USB stick (but not opening online) result in the content of what's browsed or downloaded being written to the HD at all? If TBB does leave 'content evidence' on the HD, other than Tails are there any easy ways (i.e. for the technically challenged) to run Tor (TBB) from within a liveCD or VM to prevent this? ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Choosing a name for a .onon
Hi all, I was under the impression that the .onion names for Tor Hidden Services were pseudo-random based on the public key. How was someone able to choose one/choose some character in one? As an example: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion (hope it is not against policy to post that link, only example I know. ) How did they choose the first 8 characters? Thanks, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham The ability to Google can be a serviceable substitute for technical knowledge. ~ Adrian D. Crenshaw ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Workable Tor as service instructions for Win 7?
Never mind, the instructions are more or less right. Had issues because of the errors the non depreciated versions of the commands throw, plus configs in the wrong place. I would still love to know where the default torrc should be for a Windows service if you don't specify it. To make Vidalia work again in Window after making Tor a service 1. CD into c:\Program Files\Vidalia Bundle\Tor and run: tor --hash-password somepassword Note:This is the hash you will use. 2: Add this to the torrc you will locate in C:\ ControlPort 9051 HashedControlPassword 16:B0AB72FC4E3A30D560A3524C79E7F26CF350A8504E73210426CCBE2373 3. If the service is already installed, run: tor -remove 4. Not run this to set up your config: tor -install -options -f C:\torrc ControlPort 9051 5. Now when you start, Vidalia will ask for the password to connect. Adrian On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Adrian Crenshaw irong...@irongeek.comwrote: Hi all, I've tried t use a combination of the insturctions here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorFAQ#HowdoIrunmyTorrelayasanNTservice and here: https://trac-vidalia.torproject.org/projects/vidalia/wiki/FAQ#ExistingTor to no avail. The service runs fine in Windows 7, but Vidalia will never prompt me for a password for connecting to the live Tor. Tried with 0.2.1.30 and 0.2.2.30. Where am I suppose to locate my Torrc in case that I'm running it as an NT service? I've tried a few locations, As a side note, running tor -install says the option is depreciated, but using the recommended tor --service install give the error: Jul 28 15:41:53.469 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Unknown option 'service'. Failing. Thanks, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Workable Tor as service instructions for Win 7?
Hi all, I've tried t use a combination of the insturctions here: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorFAQ#HowdoIrunmyTorrelayasanNTservice and here: https://trac-vidalia.torproject.org/projects/vidalia/wiki/FAQ#ExistingTor to no avail. The service runs fine in Windows 7, but Vidalia will never prompt me for a password for connecting to the live Tor. Tried with 0.2.1.30 and 0.2.2.30. Where am I suppose to locate my Torrc in case that I'm running it as an NT service? I've tried a few locations, As a side note, running tor -install says the option is depreciated, but using the recommended tor --service install give the error: Jul 28 15:41:53.469 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Unknown option 'service'. Failing. Thanks, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Must visit hidden services
Hi All, I was hoping to get some recommendations on must visit Tor hidden services. Both HTTP, and other protocols. I found a few IRC server addressed, but I'm not sure which ones are up (they could be down, or I may not have name resolution set right in my IRC client). Thanks, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Darknet Weaknesses slides: Animation test
I've been working on my common Darknet Weaknesses slides for AIDE and Defcon. Any feed back on sample animations/things to add? Keep in mind I only have about 50min to speak. First network animations are at about 50 sec in. http://youtu.be/UoXk-Nx6spw?hd=1 I plan to make more changes, and intend to take this video down later as there are likely mistakes/omissions. The slides play at about 10 times faster than I plan to speak. :) Thanks, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Darknet Weaknesses slides: Animation test
I can send you the pptx offlist. Thanks, Adrian On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:24 PM, David H. Lipman dlip...@verizon.netwrote: From: Adrian Crenshaw irong...@irongeek.com I've been working on my common Darknet Weaknesses slides for AIDE and Defcon. Any feed back on sample animations/things to add? Keep in mind I only have about 50min to speak. First network animations are at about 50 sec in. http://youtu.be/UoXk-Nx6spw?hd=1 I plan to make more changes, and intend to take this video down later as there are likely mistakes/omissions. The slides play at about 10 times faster than I plan to speak. :) Thanks, Too fast for me. I rather see it as a PP or PDF slideshow where I can control the speed. I gave up on it. -- Dave Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Firefox v.5 - Torbutton supported?
Seemed to work when I ran it, though I can guarantee that there is not some blocking feature it missed because of changes in Firefox. Adrian On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:44 PM, wakeupneo...@safe-mail.net wrote: Does Torbutton support Firefox version 5? If no, when? ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] Using TorButton with other proxies
Hello all, I had a question I hoped someone here could point me in the right direction on. I use Tor for some things, and I2P for others. I'd like to use TorButton's javascript/plugins security protections to access eepSites over I2P, but that means (unless I'm mistaken) toggling off Tor which I think toggles off some of the security options. I can change the TorButton proxy settings to point to I2P's port, but that's a pain to do every time. Any way to be able to quickly switch proxies and keep TorButton's other functionality working? On a related note:I've played around with using the Tor browser bundle, and set it up with a proxy switcher, to quickly switch to I2P and back as needed. I noticed some privacy setting in the browser bundle are always on (like not remembering history) even when the TorButton is toggled off. My issue is that I'm not sure what security features are kept even when the button is off, and which ones disappear. Oh, one final suggestion for the Tor Browser Bundle: A different icon. I sometime run an instance of Tor's Firefox at the same time as an instance of plain jane Firefox, and it would be nice to be able to quickly tell the difference in the task bar. Thanks much for any info you can give, Adrian -- The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit. ~ W. Somerset Maugham ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk