Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
seaco;562686 Wrote: *** It's not friendly... I unplug power at night and I want to listen next morning, I have to set my clock again, there should be a built-in batery to supply clock power... *** Unfortunately there is no battery and there is no way to add one. I can easily see how that happened. All previous Squeezebox hardware had to run connected to an external server, if the hardware needed time it just got it from the server. There was never any need for a battery. When the hardware for the Touch was speced it was as a replacement for the SB3, which has to run off an external server. This being able to run a server on the Touch itself was an after thought, not a primary design goal, I'm sure the concept of needing a battery backed up clock just never even came up. Anyway its theoretically not a problem as long as your network has a connection to the internet, then it can get time from mysqueezebox.com at boot time. If you have a connection to the internet and its NOT getting time then we need to find out why. If you don't have a connection to the internet, then you better keep the Touch running all the time if you want to be able to display a clock. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - 30% Discount
I was about to put mine on eBay - too many SB's, an don't want to wait for the NPR bug to get fixed. PM me if interested. -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best external hard drive configuration for squeezebox touch with 20k+ flacs
I am using a self powered 1.5 Tb LaCie d2 Quadra HDD (formatted in FAT32 with Disk Utility on a Mac), containing around 450 Gb of Flac files (approx. 1500 albums / 25000 songs). AFAIC, with Tiny SC, when reading 16/44.1 files, I find the navigation in the menus a bit slow (in comparison with the external server) and there is just a rebuffering problem on the beginning of the first track of an album, but I can live with that. On the other hand, when reading 24/96 files with Tiny SC, I have big rebuffering problems (even after the corrections made in the 7.5.1 version), and this must linked with the size of the collection : the same files on the same HDD with only a couple of albums play flawlessly. And one last thing : the use of the Touch in standalone mode with the Controller is far slower than with the external server... -- rotho rotho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80516 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch won't connect
I'd be inclined to uninstall 7.6 and use 7.5.2 You didn't mention your network setip. If you are using a wireless router and modem then unplug the power from your Touch, modem and router and leave it unplugged for a minute or so. Then reconnect the power and go through the setup process again. See if that helps. -- avta avta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80529 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch won't connect
Think you are fine with SBS 7.6. The Touch is trying to log into MySB.com so it can update to the newest Firmware. Have a go at this. Try doing a back swipe to get off the spinny screen. Then press and hold down the Back/Left Button until it drops back to the Home Screen. Then goto SettingsAdvancedUpdate and select your Server not MySB.com as the place you want the update from. Update and all should be well. I really hate this has to be connected to the Internet to setup the Touch. They should have put a menu page in that asks if you have Internet connectivity and if you answer NO, then a warning that if the Touch is being setup for the first time it needs a connection to get a proper Firmware Update, but allow those that are current to move forward without Internet. A warning and instructions is far better then being forced to HAVE to have an Internet connection. Or have a warning page come up that says it is best to have an Internet connection when setting up the Touch for the first time so it can get the latest Firmware with an option to establish Connectivity or Proceed Without it! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80529 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Will this setup work?
I have had incredible issues with my Touch when my external hard drive is directly connected to the Touch. My Touch is hard-wired to my internet. Last night, I attached my hard drive to my laptop and ran the server through my laptop (wireless). Worked beautifully. Squeezeplay worked beautifully as well. But I don't want a hard drive connected to my laptop, so here's what I'd like to do: Connect my hard drive to my old desktop (bought in 2003). Run the Squeezebox Server off of my desktop. I'm confident that my Touch will work well. But here's the thing I want to be able to do. I want to be able to control the Touch remotely using my laptop (and Squeezeplay). Will that work? I'm wondering if Squeezeplay only works on a computer that is also running the Squeezebox server. Thank you. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80544 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will this setup work?
crimscrem;562781 Wrote: Connect my hard drive to my old desktop (bought in 2003). Run the Squeezebox Server off of my desktop. I'm confident that my Touch will work well. But here's the thing I want to be able to do. I want to be able to control the Touch remotely using my laptop (and Squeezeplay). Will that work? I'm wondering if Squeezeplay only works on a computer that is also running the Squeezebox server. Thank you. You can do that: Squeezeplay will connect to servers other than localhost. Remember SqueezePlay is the same software as is on the Touch/Radio/Controller with some platform tweaks. If you use a 'real' server (ie, not the touch) you also get the webui which is even more accessible. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80544 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - 30% Discount
plympton;562718 Wrote: I was about to put mine on eBay - too many SB's, an don't want to wait for the NPR bug to get fixed. PM me if interested. -Dan Sorry I missed this but what is the NPR bug? I did a quick search and found mention of National Public Radio but people were saying it worked great.? Thanks, TV -- tv69 tv69's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch won't connect
robinbowes;562786 Wrote: Agreed. The requirement to update firmware on first connect is a serious usability fail from Logitech, in my view. R. Can't really put it into words how strongly I feel about this subject. It has killed two of the Commercial applications I had worked on for months when I first found out about the Touch. Granted its only for 1000 to 3000 Touch units which volume wise means nothing to Logitech but would have meant about 150K to 500K for us. We did a field test with 5 full setups and its just not worth the headaches from having to pre-setup or actually do onsite customer installs with Touch units already connected once for Firmware update instead of just being able to ship it to the clients (well over 90% of these installs won't have Internet which is why this Touch local server setup is perfect for them, but Logitech requires Internet before using Touch). And then hope the client never has to do a factory reset, those calls drove us crazy. How hard would it have been to have the Touch look to see if there was a local server first with a greater Firmware then was shipped and get an update from that instead of demanding Internet access? One business model has servers in the setup that would have been up to date (have higher firmware to DL then Touch ships with) and would have eliminated both the Internet requirement issue, having every client have to have and setup a MySB.com account (hard to do without Internet), resolve the issue if a client needs to do a factory reset and allow direct shipping to the client. Yes, I have found some ways around this but clients don't went to hear about complicated workarounds that non-technical employees might have to do. They just want it to work like we demoed it to them all the time. In hindsight it looks like we would never have been able to get our hands on 3000 Touch units anyway. Pity, it would have been a fun project. The really sad thing is, we couldn't do this with Sonos or another NMP if we wanted to and cost wasn't an issue, they just don't have any model like the Touch! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80529 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] operating question about power-off
Why do you unplug the power? The touch uses very little power. I completely understand wanting to reduce ones power usage but unplugging a device like the touch every night is not really saving much power at all. The touch uses ~5W with drive connected. So 365days * 24hours * 5W = ~44kWH . My current power cost is $0.15 per kWH which for the US is on the high side of power costs. At my rate it costs me a whole $6.60 to power the Touch for an entire year. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80447 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch is loosing time
R Johnson;559165 Wrote: ... As I've mentioned before, my Touch only has a weak wireless connection to a friend's router, but this configuration has not changed. Some days ago I reset the Touch by disconnecting the power. As expected, it took several tries to get a good enough wireless connection to enable and set the clock. ... Since a reset a few weeks ago, my Touch got to be more than 10 minutes slow. This morning I noticed that it had the correct time. Apparently my weak wireless connection was working well enough when the Touch decided to call home. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79894 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - 30% Discount
tv69;562809 Wrote: Sorry I missed this but what is the NPR bug? I did a quick search and found mention of National Public Radio but people were saying it worked great.? Thanks, TV Esoteric bug - with 7.5, and fixed in the 7.6 nightlies (though might have introduced syncing problems, not sure if related). With SOME NPR streams, the header (thank you for supporting OPB...) is malformed or something, and messes up the streaming on the Touch ( Radio, I believe). AND it only happens if you're in sync with another player (my case, a SB2 in the kitchen). 7.6 fixes it, but not completely, so after the header, the 2 streams are about 100ms apart. This is hackable, by delaying the SB2 by 100ms, but then ALL music is 100ms delayed. Ugh. As much as I love the touch, and put like 30 hours into helping get SuperDateTime working on it with CustomClock, I also have a 5 month old that limits my hacking time. :-) Anyway, the bug is here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16233 Thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78826 Like I said, esoteric, but I am the king of esoteric. -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Much better power supply re: NOISE INTERFERENCE
Thank's for the comment ! I considered aluminum enclosure because it's easy to drill and to grind ... incidentally, it provides excellent shielding against electromagnetic disturbances. Bye ! Gidu -- Gidu Gidu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38192 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80341 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best external hard drive configuration for squeezebox touch with 20k+ flacs
JohnSwenson;562611 Wrote: The one thing you CAN'T do is have the flacs under a directory called say music at the top level and another directory at the top level with other non music files. The scanner will look at ALL files on the disk, you cannot tell it just look at the files under music. So its best if you just have music files on the disk. For example if you have a music directory and a games directory, all the little files with bleeps and blurps and gunshots etc will show up in your music library and all the image files will be converted into into cover art, probably not what you want. Hi all, wondering if it would work OK if those 'other' files are non-music, non-image (non-jpg, etc) types? My external drive (only have one) is sort of a back up drive as well. Along with my music it's got some DVD rips, program installers (.exe's), text files, disc images (.iso's), and some Ghost images...stuff like that. Oh, some .pdf's too, but they don't really need to be there. Other than slowing down the scan, ya think they'll cause TinySC to choke? Thanks! -- 808htfan I want NBC's *-Ed-* on DVD/Blu-ray! 808htfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80516 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best external hard drive configuration for squeezebox touch with 20k+ flacs
808htfan;562939 Wrote: Hi all, wondering if it would work OK if those 'other' files are non-music, non-image (non-jpg, etc) types? My external drive (only have one) is sort of a back up drive as well. Along with my music it's got some DVD rips, program installers (.exe's), text files, disc images (.iso's), and some Ghost images...stuff like that. Oh, some .pdf's too, but they don't really need to be there. Other than slowing down the scan, ya think they'll cause TinySC to choke? Thanks! It may be all right it may not. It depends on how the scanner classifies the file types. I tried a drive with a backup on it and it took an hour and a half to go through all the backup files. The problem is that its going to do a scan of the whole disk every time you boot the Touch, thus in my case it would have been an hour and a half wait before I could play music every time it booted. You can certainly try it, but its not a particularly good thing to do. A backup disk is probably the worst to share with music, there can be hundreds of thousands of files and many of those could very well wind up having extensions that the scanner is interested in. Its just not really a good idea. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80516 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Best external hard drive configuration for squeezebox touch with 20k+ flacs
JohnSwenson;562942 Wrote: It may be all right it may not. It depends on how the scanner classifies the file types. I tried a drive with a backup on it and it took an hour and a half to go through all the backup files. The problem is that its going to do a scan of the whole disk every time you boot the Touch, thus in my case it would have been an hour and a half wait before I could play music every time it booted. You can certainly try it, but its not a particularly good thing to do. A backup disk is probably the worst to share with music, there can be hundreds of thousands of files and many of those could very well wind up having extensions that the scanner is interested in. Its just not really a good idea. John S. Thanks John. BTW, when you mention the Touch scanning at boot time, do you mean everytime it's powered on...as in using its or the remote's power button? Thanks! -- 808htfan I want NBC's *-Ed-* on DVD/Blu-ray! 808htfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80516 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Screen Burn In?
So the question is, am I hurting the beautiful screen on my touch using it as an expensive clock (it looks so nice under the TV) when it's turned off or not? Anyone? Anyone? -- mrtim67 mrtim67's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79340 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
