[SlimDevices: Touch] How to turn off SB touch without losing connection to local server
Hi, I have a Squeezebox Touch working stand-alone with a self-powered usb HD. From time to time when I turn it off, it loses its connection with the local server and I have to restart the SB server and rescan everything again. Am I doing anything wrong? Is there a right way to turn it off? Thanks, Raul -- raulmoras raulmoras's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to turn off SB touch without losing connection to local server
Well, it depends on what you mean by off? If just using the off button (IR remote or touch screen) this is really just a Standby, not really off. Nor should this cause the Touch's server to stop. But if you are actually removing power for the Touch then yes this will cause the Touch server to need to reboot at power on and then must rescan the entire HD. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to turn off SB touch without losing connection to local server
Another issue might be if your HD goes to sleep due to inactivity. This may cause the Touch's server to think it is a new HD requiring a rescan. Is your HD going to sleep? Are there any drive utilities on that HD that may be causing this? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to turn off SB touch without losing connection to local server
Thanks Toby10 for your answer. I ment standby when said off. I just want to stop the music and come back later. Sometimes the server is disconnected. Perhaps is the sleep mode on the HD...but isnt it good to let the HD rest when not in use? Im using a seagate expansion portable drive 500Gb connected through an powered usb hub. But I didnt erase those apps that came in the HD. How do I disable the sleep mode? On the Touch or on the HD? Thanks again, Raul -- raulmoras raulmoras's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Custom online radio
Hi, Last.fm doesnt work in Brazil. Does anyone know any other radio that works with SB touch and Brazil??? Thanks, Raul -- raulmoras raulmoras's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91812 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Custom online radio
Go to your www.MySqueezeBox.com account, go to App Gallery, see what is there. Usually the offered Apps are based on your location so if it is listed it should be available to you. But this is probably not 100% accurate all the time. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91812 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to turn off SB touch without losing connection to local server
Also Erland has has written a patch/applet which can be installed directly onto the Touch to force it to not scan. How this works, what is required, etc... I have no idea. But might be worth some reading to possibly stop the Touch rescanning your HD. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90147page=3 -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] If I got a touch...
Hi all, I am considering buying a SB touch to add in with my current marantz amp/cd combo player. I was wondering what the best way to run it with. I don't particularly want to turn on my pc to use it and neither do I want to get a NAS drive so either an external hard drive or a small number of high capacity SD cards/usb sticks. Pretty much all my music is regular cds which I have ripped as wma lossless in Windows Media Player. From my understanding the Touch can only support this format when streaming so I will need to convert to FLAC. I have tried it in foobar and it seems to work. Anything I should be careful of regarding tags etc? I care little for album art images personally. One thing I realised I can do is whilst converting all my music to FLAC is upsample it in SOX from 16/44 to 16/96 (except for the odd hdcd I have I see no reason to use 24/96?). Would this be beneficial for the SB's DAC or should I just leave it in original form. Certainly would use up a fair amount of extra space to upsample it but beyond that it's not really extra hassle as it needs to be converted anyway. -- bassedolie bassedolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91816 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] If I got a touch...
The best way to go is have a dedicated music server. While Logitech added the feature to be standalone many here feel that was a poor idea. The hardware really is not powerful enough to reliably run both the server and client. If you read the forums here you will see many people have issues running the touch in standalone mode. I know some people are very successful but more are banging their heads against the wall. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91816 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] If I got a touch...
bassedolie;672153 Wrote: Hi all, I am considering buying a SB touch to add in with my current marantz amp/cd combo player. I was wondering what the best way to run it with. I don't particularly want to turn on my pc to use it and neither do I want to get a NAS drive so either an external hard drive or a small number of high capacity SD cards/usb sticks. Pretty much all my music is regular cds which I have ripped as wma lossless in Windows Media Player. From my understanding the Touch can only support this format when streaming so I will need to convert to FLAC. I have tried it in foobar and it seems to work. Anything I should be careful of regarding tags etc? I care little for album art images personally. One thing I realised I can do is whilst converting all my music to FLAC is upsample it in SOX from 16/44 to 16/96 (except for the odd hdcd I have I see no reason to use 24/96?). Would this be beneficial for the SB's DAC or should I just leave it in original form. Certainly would use up a fair amount of extra space to upsample it but beyond that it's not really extra hassle as it needs to be converted anyway. Thanks in advance *most* people will point out that upsampling the files will be of no benefit. The TOUCH *can* work with a USB drive plugged in, running the internal tinySbS and playing FLAC files. Search this forum for suggestions on USB drives, etc. Basically, use a USB drive that gets its own power, set it NOT to go into standby mode, leave it always attached to the TOUCH (otherwise everytime you connect it a complete scan will take place), and when you do the intial setup/scan, this can take a very long time (hours and hours). Don't try to do anything else with the touch while the scan is taking place. And make sure your USB drive only has one partition. The Touch doesn't deal with some of the 2nd partitions included on some USB drives (that act like CD rom drives, contain programs, etc.) And best to have ONLY music files or album art on the USB drive. It will scan the entire drive, even if only part of drive is music. Bottom line, get the right USB drive, set it up properly, and don't think you'll be plugging and unplugging usb drive often. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91816 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Streaming 24/96 Flac
I've got a Touch that I've been using to stream 24/96 flac files of vinyl transfers. I've implimented the Soundcheck's Mods and had the Squeeze Server configured to do the flac decoding. The Squeeze Server is running on an iMac and the Touch is connected to the network by direct ethernet. I'm using an Asus Eeee Pad tablet running Squeeze Controller to control everything. I have liked the sound (using both the analogue out and an external DAC) but the files always seemed to sound better when I played them directly on the MAC to a USB audio interface (M-Audio FastTrack Pro) that I use as my monitor while doing the vinyl transfers. Today I was looking at the information screen for the file being played. as displayed on the Squeeze Controller screen. It indicated that the file was PCM with a data-rate of about 3Mbits (which is about right for 24/96 audio) but then in brackets it said (downconverted to 1.4Mbits) which I believe is 16/44. I went back to Squeeze Server and changed the advanced configuration to have it pass the Flac files to the Touch for decoding. My information screen now indicates that the file is Flac with a data-rate of app 3Mbits. No downconversion happening!! The sound has improved significantly. The sound stage has opened up greatly and the sound is much smoother. Like going from 2D to 3D. Moral.. be careful if you are streaming hi-res files. I'm not sure how the Flac decoding is happening within the Suqeeze Server, or if there are settings for it, but it appears that it can downconvert your hi-res stuff to 1.4M. The next DAC I get will have to have incoming data-rate indicator lights so that I can spot problems like this faster. -- PBass_Forever PBass_Forever's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91817 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Streaming 24/96 Flac
PBass_Forever;672173 Wrote: I've got a Touch that I've been using to stream 24/96 flac files of vinyl transfers. I've implimented the Soundcheck's Mods and had the Squeeze Server configured to do the flac decoding. The Squeeze Server is running on an iMac and the Touch is connected to the network by direct ethernet. I'm using an Asus Eeee Pad tablet running Squeeze Controller to control everything. I have liked the sound (using both the analogue out and an external DAC) but the files always seemed to sound better when I played them directly on the MAC to a USB audio interface (M-Audio FastTrack Pro) that I use as my monitor while doing the vinyl transfers. Today I was looking at the information screen for the file being played. as displayed on the Squeeze Controller screen. It indicated that the file was PCM with a data-rate of about 3Mbits (which is about right for 24/96 audio) but then in brackets it said (downconverted to 1.4Mbits) which I believe is 16/44. I went back to Squeeze Server and changed the advanced configuration to have it pass the Flac files to the Touch for decoding. My information screen now indicates that the file is Flac with a data-rate of app 3Mbits. No downconversion happening!! The sound has improved significantly. The sound stage has opened up greatly and the sound is much smoother. Like going from 2D to 3D. Moral.. be careful if you are streaming hi-res files. I'm not sure how the Flac decoding is happening within the Suqeeze Server, or if there are settings for it, but it appears that it can downconvert your hi-res stuff to 1.4M. The next DAC I get will have to have incoming data-rate indicator lights so that I can spot problems like this faster. Well I don't want to rain on your significant improvement parade. I see the same message about downconverting to 1.4mbits, but my dac still lights up 24/96, so I'm thinking it's just a cosmetic issue. I guess there's the slim possibility it's down converting to 16/44 and then back up again. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91817 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Streaming 24/96 Flac
Yeah, that value is just indicating it's being transcoded and doesn't reflect the true bitrate. We should probably remove it, it causes a lot of confusion. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91817 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Streaming 24/96 Flac
Ik, I'll do more comparing but the difference seemed so significant that I didn't pursue it any further. The difference seemed identical to the difference I observed when listening to 24/96 files directly from my iMac's optical (SPDIF) out to a DacMagic, that I use to own, while forcing the output from 96 to 48 and back. Same opening up of the sound stage. This experiment is what convinced me to by the Touch.. I felt getting the 24/96 files to my main sound system was the best thing I could do to improve my sound. I even sold the DacMagic because it wasn't an improvement over the Touch's DAC. -- PBass_Forever PBass_Forever's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91817 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] New behaviour with not square cover arts ?
Yeah, but I've gone to the work to create some cool custom wallpapers, Iron Maiden, Van Halen ect. and I don't want a black background. And the main thing is, it didn't do it before this update, so something changed in how it maps album art and one would think it shouldn't be an issue to go back to what it was. -- rayman1701 rayman1701's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90990 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Streaming 24/96 Flac
I would love to get a better DAC. I never realized that the Rega DAC had date rate lights.. very nice!! That's the one thing I really liked about the DacMagic. -- PBass_Forever PBass_Forever's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91817 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?
gbcambridge;671937 Wrote: Hi Toby, I have Googled until I am blue in the face. I get loads of personal reviews.. like I am really pleased... etc., etc. What I am looking for is a more objective functional evaluation. So far I have not found anything. Perhaps someone in this forum can enlighten me on this? http://www.stereophile.com/content/logitech-squeezebox-touch-network-music-player -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91782 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to turn off SB touch without losing connection to local server
Hi Toby10, I'll try that! Thanks again! -- raulmoras raulmoras's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91810 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?
Squeezemenicely;672028 Wrote:
Why all this doom and gloom?
Some people have pretty much said Squeezebox is doomed since Logitech
took over back in 2006, but they are still sold and I can even purchase
them in all my local home electronics stores in north Sweden, something
that definitely wasn't possible at all back in 2006.
Both Touch and Radio are both the best Squeezeboxes I've ever owned, so
even though I sometimes also worry myself, it's still a bit strange to
worry about the best streaming device available on the market...
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91782
___
Touch mailing list
Touch@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?
Nah, the worst part about going computer with music is the ripping of all the CD's. After that, it's gravy. -- steveinaz - transport: squeezebox touch - dac: benchmark dac/pre - linestage: placette passive - power amplifier: parasound hca-1500a - speakers: fritz speakers carbon 7 monitor - cables: kimber hero/8tc v.2, dh labs d-75 steveinaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34707 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91782 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?
You need one of these... http://www.cdrecordingsoftware.com/p1173431566/MF-Digital-Ripstation-DP6-7602-2-Drive/product_info.html made my life a lot easier... -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91782 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Streaming 24/96 Flac
This was my first post here and I just want to add a thank you for the quick response to my post. The Touch is an excellent product at a great price. DAC's may come and go but the Touch is here to stay :-) -- PBass_Forever PBass_Forever's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91817 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Custom online radio
Lot's of ideas, but as I'm not in Brazil I don't know what is available to you. What shows up on your Apps Gallery list? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91812 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Custom online radio
raulmoras;672243 Wrote: Hi Toby10, I'm looking for a radio station that suggests music according to your preferences... I used yahoo music and grooveshark on my PC Any sugestion? I'll try the country trick ;) Thanks, Raul not sure what works in brazil, but: pandora last.fm MOG spotify -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) SbS 7.6.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop LMS 7.7.0 TouchBenchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91812 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] If I got a touch...
bassedolie;672153 Wrote: Hi all, One thing I realised I can do is whilst converting all my music to FLAC is upsample it in SOX from 16/44 to 16/96 (except for the odd hdcd I have I see no reason to use 24/96?). Would this be beneficial for the SB's DAC or should I just leave it in original form. Certainly would use up a fair amount of extra space to upsample it but beyond that it's not really extra hassle as it needs to be converted anyway. Thanks in advance Probably not beneficial with the Touch because it already has a Delta Sigma DAC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-sigma_modulation#Digital_to_analog_conversion -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91816 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
