[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
I am a new owner of the Squeezebox Touch and am trying to manage a pretty large (over 1600) albums, some of which are flac and some of which are wav. I have ripped my CDs using Windows Media Player and chose wav for those (flac was not an option...and I did not know about flac at that time). I am using mp3tag to add tags to flac files that are not properly tagged. However, I have not found a way to make Logitech Media Server recognize Albumartist for the wav files; I only see the track artists for the wav files (and many of the wav files do not have the track artists filled in, so I end up with a lot of Unknown Artist files. Finally, my questions: 1. How should I handle the tagging of the wav files? Should I convert them to flac in order to use mp3tag? If so, how do I do that? Which software should I use? I do not see any way to do that with Windows Media Player or other software that I have. Should I leave the wav files as wav files and use other software to tag them? I have been reripping some of the CDs in Windows Media Player in order to fill in the Artists column (to avoid the Unknown Artist problem) but then I wind up with Various Artists as the album artist, which is not what I want. 2. It appears that in the future I should rip CDs to flac rather than to wav. Is that right? If so, which software is best for doing that? Windows Media Player does not offer flac as an alternative. As far as I can determine Windows Media Player is the only software I have for ripping CDs. I will appreciate any advice you are able to offer. I fear that I have wasted a lot of time trying to make wav files work with Media Server and I need to figure out how to do this right before proceeding further. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
You will find that most people here are advocates of FLAC as a file format. It is lossless and takes up less space on your drive. Wav does not have good support for tagging. The two software applications people prefer for ripping are Eac and Dbpoweramp. Eac is free, Dbpoweramp is not free. I use Eac and it works fine. I have not used Dbpoweramp but there are many advocates. I believe it may have more features than Eac. I would suggest looking at both and deciding from there. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
Windows Media Player is absolutely horrible ripper. I did most of my collection the first time around with WMP and found files with digital noise when discs weren't in absolutely perfect shape. So if you value accuracy in your rips, I suggest you rerip your whole collection again with dbPoweramp. You'll kill 3 birds with one stone. 1) FLAC files 2) dbPoweramp will properly tag your flac files 3) dbPoweramp will confirm your rips as accurate against the accurate rip database and store these results in tags for future reference. I know it's a real pain to rerip but in the end you'll be real happy you did. Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
I have a W4S DAC-2 and a Burson Audio HA-160D. Just wondering if anyone has got the USB interface to work with either of these? windycitycy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42894 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: Can't find SB player or drops out
I have a SB Touch that connects to a QNAP TS-412 NAS through one of two LMSes. I have one LMS on the NAS that is very iffy as of late and another one on a Mac laptop, which is a little less iffy, but not good. Both LMSes are the latest version of 7.7 and I control the player through a iPad 2 using iPeng or Logitech's own app and it plays through a fairly hefty sound system. The NAS has probably a couple of terabytes of music on it. The player is on all the time, but most of the time when I want to access it neither app can find the player. It doesn't matter whether which of the LMSes I'm using. Sometimes I can control it directly on the player and fuss around a while to get it going-- changing libraries, disconnecting and reconnecting and just fiddling. It takes a good 20 minutes if I'm lucky, then I'm usually good to go with the iPad... except that it occasionally loses the connection to the player and then it comes back. I've tried connecting the player via the Ethernet using a power line adapter and through an 801.n wireless network using an Apple Airport Xtreme where the router is no more than 10 feet away. Sometimes one way works better than the other, but not consistently. iPeng just kind of hangs during all the fussing then tells me that your player cannot be found or switches to the iPad itself; the Logitech controller app does give me some error about network connectivity that might be due to congestion, etc. It worked flawlessly until I got the NAS but I can't see why that should make a difference. I should still be able see the player, shouldn't I? Any suggestions? Bosconermal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95315 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
dasmueller wrote: You will find that most people here are advocates of FLAC as a file format. It is lossless and takes up less space on your drive. Wav does not have good support for tagging. The two software applications people prefer for ripping are Eac and Dbpoweramp. Eac is free, Dbpoweramp is not free. I use Eac and it works fine. I have not used Dbpoweramp but there are many advocates. I believe it may have more features than Eac. I would suggest looking at both and deciding from there. Thanks for the prompt reply. I will look into Eac and Dbpoweramp. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
Jeff Flowerday wrote: Windows Media Player is absolutely horrible ripper. I did most of my collection the first time around with WMP and found files with digital noise when discs weren't in absolutely perfect shape. So if you value accuracy in your rips, I suggest you rerip your whole collection again with dbPoweramp. You'll kill 3 birds with one stone. 1) FLAC files 2) dbPoweramp will properly tag your flac files 3) dbPoweramp will confirm your rips as accurate against the accurate rip database and store these results in tags for future reference. I know it's a real pain to rerip but in the end you'll be real happy you did. Hi Jeff, thanks for the input. At this time I do not have the time to rerip my entire collection. However, I may start the process and do it gradually. I am going to look into both Eac and dbpoweramp. Do either of those programs convert wav files to flac? If I converted the wav files to flac I could use mp3tag to tag them. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
jdt7385 wrote: Hi Jeff, thanks for the input. At this time I do not have the time to rerip my entire collection. However, I may start the process and do it gradually. I am going to look into both Eac and dbpoweramp. Do either of those programs convert wav files to flac? If I converted the wav files to flac I could use mp3tag to tag them. dbPoweramp as a batch music converter and handles all kinds of formats. Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
Jeff Flowerday wrote: dbPoweramp as a batch music converter and handles all kinds of formats. Agree. I use Dbpa. And use mp3tag for tag cleanup. Although not needed much after dbpa. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
And also the need for re-rip may depend on the personal level audiophilia . Even a bad ripper succeeds without problem in -most- cases and give bitperfect rips but which rips are not ;) a perfect q to ponder 03:15 in the nigth or so. And if it reaches the level of obvious audibility we are talking thousands of errors, but ripps are also backup and archive so secure ripping is good for the future ,and don't forget to make good backups of all work . It also depends on the state of CD's if they have been abused as drink coaster for decades dBp or EAC is very needed , or other rippers with secure methods , but afaik dBp and EAC is the ones that use the accurate rip dB giving external confirmation of your rip Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
I also think that dbpoweramp is worth every penny. It is fast, reliable, the tags are great - especially for classical music and easy to use. Been ripping like crazy, also retouching tags with mp3tag. You really should re-rip your discs, might be less work than trying to tag your wave files in the end. Do a bunch every day, you will get there in the end... Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch: Can't find SB player or drops out
Bosconermal wrote: I have a SB Touch that connects to a QNAP TS-412 NAS through one of two LMSes. I have one LMS on the NAS that is very iffy as of late and another one on a Mac laptop, which is a little less iffy, but not good. Both LMSes are the latest version of 7.7 and I control the player through a iPad 2 using iPeng or Logitech's own app and it plays through a fairly hefty sound system. The NAS has probably a couple of terabytes of music on it. The player is on all the time, but most of the time when I want to access it neither app can find the player. It doesn't matter whether which of the LMSes I'm using. Sometimes I can control it directly on the player and fuss around a while to get it going-- changing libraries, disconnecting and reconnecting and just fiddling. It takes a good 20 minutes if I'm lucky, then I'm usually good to go with the iPad... except that it occasionally loses the connection to the player and then it comes back. I've tried connecting the player via the Ethernet using a power line adapter and through an 801.n wireless network using an Apple Airport Xtreme where the router is no more than 10 feet away. Sometimes one way works better than the other, but not consistently. iPeng just kind of hangs during all the fussing then tells me that your player cannot be found or switches to the iPad itself; the Logitech controller app does give me some error about network connectivity that might be due to congestion, etc. It worked flawlessly until I got the NAS but I can't see why that should make a difference. I should still be able see the player, shouldn't I? Any suggestions? First a little more information, it sounds like you have a router in this system, what is it? Are all the devices set for DHCP or do you have static addresses? What does your network look like, information like, DSL modem or cable modem etc, router: does it handle wifi as well as ethernet on the lan side? Are the mac and NAS connected directly to the router or are there switches etc in between? The SB device discovery protocol (how servers find players etc) uses UDP broadcast messages so you need to make sure you don't have any firewalls that block UDP in either the router or the computers (NAS, Mac). This can frequently be a problem. If you have the any part of the system connected wirelessly you might also have a separate firewall on the wireless side that could be causing the problem. (some routers have separate firewall entries for the wireless port) Another problem that I have seen is DHCP issues. In most systems the DHCP server (usually in the router) assigns address with a certain timeout, anywhere from a few minutes to a couple days, the device and the DHCP server are supposed to renegotiate this when the time is running out, but sometimes this doesn't happen and the device is left with an expired address, this can cause the it worked fine at first but in the morning it wasn't there syndrome. A couple things you can try: first just for testing purposes, hook everything up with cables, no wifi, you might have to move the Touch near the router for the test or run a long cable down the hall. Make sure both the NAS and mac are connected with wires. See how this works. Try this with just one server running, try just the mac, then try just the NAS. Try rebooting everything in the network, router, switches, modems etc. See if this makes any difference. If you have a router that has been on for months you can find that they slowly start degrading, particularly the DHCP servers and a reboot does them a lot of good. Hopefully this can help pinpoint where the problem might be. Then we can start tackling what to do about it. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95315 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
