Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital/Analog simultaneously on Touch
I think it's quite common for a slight delay when applying processing in the amp to a digital signal. Even using the analogue in for zone 1 may have the same issue if your amp is doing any processing (for example if your amp has options for using the sub in stereo) Might be worth trying analogue for both zones. Failing that your only option for good syncing might be a 2nd SB in zone 2, there's delay settings in LMS to tweak for a good sync if necessary. Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96651 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to improve Touch sound?
guidof wrote: I use EDO and I also use TT3.0 and SBGK's blog values. In my experience and to my ears, each of these has enhanced the sound of my main system. I do not find them to yield a particularly 'digital' sound -- and I don't find the sound of the unvarnished SBT, with or without external DAC to be 'digital' either, by which I mean I don't find it edgy, shrill, or tipped up in the high frequencies. I also have digitized a few of my LPs, and I don't find the resulting transfers in any way 'digital' in sound. By this, I'm not suggesting SBGK and some other forum members are imagining things. We each listen with different ears and expectations and through different systems in different rooms. Personally, I think this is just the way it should be. If your system does not sound 'digital' to you, enjoy it and the music it lets you hear. Best, Guido F. Hi Guido, I try to get what setting you're using to work in my system by failed. I use a USB DAC, with EDO only it work fine. Intalled TT tt -i, the playback start crackling. resume to normal with tt -r Then I try to follow SBGK's suggestion to update the values. The crackling gone. but command tt -s show that kernel modification disabled. I wonder if I do anything wrong, do you also get the kernel modification disabled with the tt -s command? ivanyiu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57634 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: Bose� CineMate� GS Series II Digital Home Theater Speaker System
Agree with Mnyb. :) My only experience with Energy is the Take 5.1 setup, never heard the Micros. I'm also a big Yamaha fan (avr and motorcycles :)) but I only recommended the posted Yamaha and Denon as examples of decent budget gear below the $200 mark. Do shop, research, compare. The important thing is that posted $600 system above will out perform the Bose 2.1 and give you FAR more flexibility in the future. Enjoy. :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96803 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
reinholdk wrote: So I could solve the issue by simply stopping and restarting the LMS service (on Windows). But you probably tried restarting your server already, did you? Yep, I have tried restarting the server, but still no go. It's pretty frustrating; when I tell the Touch to connect to the library, I can watch the LMS on the NAS register the Touch in the Choose Player dropdown, but the Touch still says it can't find the server. Headboy100's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
I assume you have restarted the Touch. Do you use authentication (username + password) and do you run more than one server? I'm also frequently seeing this but it usually helps to reboot the Touch. The problem is that the player part of the touch connects but not the controller. It seems go somehow also be related to WiFi reception, I only see it with a week connection, maybe a timing issue. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital/Analog simultaneously on Touch
bobm wrote: I want to route the touch output to a second zone on my receiver for speakers in another room. My receiver requires analog inputs as a source for a second zone and I use the digital output for my mains. Is it ok to use the both the Digital and Analog outputs at the same time? Will the both outputs be in synch so I dont hear an echo as I walk between rooms? Thanks Bob I use the analog out for both zones when doing multizone listening. This will eliminate the delay, with my Denon AVR anyway. tmauceri's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41450 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96651 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
pippin wrote: I assume you have restarted the Touch. Do you use authentication (username + password) and do you run more than one server? I'm also frequently seeing this but it usually helps to reboot the Touch. The problem is that the player part of the touch connects but not the controller. It seems go somehow also be related to WiFi reception, I only see it with a week connection, maybe a timing issue. Yep, I have restarted the Touch. I am using a wired connection, not WiFi. I currently have 2 servers running, the old one hosted on an Ubuntu laptop that works fine, and the new one on the NAS which won't behave. When you say do I use authentication do you mean to access the servers? Headboy100's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: Bose� CineMate� GS Series II Digital Home Theater Speaker System
Base the system on a modern digital AVR which will handle myriad sources and you can't go wrong. I use Denon but there are lots of competent ones these days as Toby notes. Listen to Mnyb and avoid any speakers with micro in the name unless you simply can't fit anything larger. :) My favorite really small speaker is the NHT SuperZero 2.0 but they do need a little sub of some kind as they're not big enough for decent bass. Start with a nice 2.1 system and add speakers as needed and budget allows. Next thing virtual 4WD drive on the 2 front wheels... Stay tuned :) Jack Gilvey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57582 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96803 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
I don't know if this will help (or if its poor protocol to copy chunks
of files directly into messages) but here is a dump of the relevant part
of the Touch log file. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of this
than me might spot something. Is the bit about skipping wake on lan
significant?
I couldn't see anything in the LMS log file that seemed to relate to the
connection attempt.
Oct 19 23:30:29 squeezeplay: INFO applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:215 Using existing server with same ip
address: SlimServer {192.168.0.39}
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:648 connectPlayerToServer() LocalPlayer
{Squeezebox Touch} SlimServer {192.168.0.39}
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: WARN squeezebox.server -
SlimServer.lua:624 wakeOnLan(): SKIPPING WOL, self.mac: nil,
self:isSqueezeNetwork(): false
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO squeezebox.player -
LocalPlayer.lua:203 connectToServer(): connecting localPlayer to
serverSlimServer {192.168.0.39} via internal call
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO net.slimproto - SlimProto.lua:592
connect to 192.168.0.39 (192.168.0.39)
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO net.slimproto - SlimProto.lua:152
Send HELO: reconnect-bit=0 bytesReceived(H,L)=0,27362083
Oct 19 23:30:51 squeezeplay: WARN applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:634 Connection failure or Timeout, current
count: 21
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
Yes, I meant whether you have set username/password in LMS pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: Bose� CineMate� GS Series II Digital Home Theater Speaker System
Simply the front speakers must be able to do voices in a decent manner , the midrange is most important . On a tigth budget one migth have to weigth the need for sub for movie fun and front speakers that have some hifi like qualities regarding music ? decisions decisions . NHT is a good suggestion to :) as is BW ,Dali ,Dynaudio ,PSB ,Boston ,Wharferdale etc etc But there are no shortage of good small speakers , to many brands to fill this tread with . I suggest you check out whats available locally (or somewhere you go on regular basis ) and get a feel for what they sell . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96803 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: Bose� CineMate� GS Series II Digital Home Theater Speaker System
Mnyb wrote: Simply the front speakers must be able to do voices in a decent manner , the midrange is most important . If voices are not right then nothing else matters. That's where our ears are tuned by evolution. Still, most small speakers lack the depth and richness I crave and enjoy from live music. I need good performance down to 40Hz. :) Jack Gilvey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57582 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96803 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Is ODAC an improvement over Touch internal DAC
I am considering to buy an O2 headphone amp for my Sennheiser HD650, as alternative to my Trend Audio PA10 hybrid tube amp. I'm tempted to go for a O2+ODAC configuration, but I'm wondering if the ODAC would be an improvement over the Touch internal DAC Nando1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96813 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks wont progress
ply3908 wrote: Did you try to play the Album/Folder by not using the favorite to see if all all the tracks played? I think you set the only one song to the favorite, not the folder. Yeh playing tracks from music folders works fine, but I thought before, when i selected the first track from the 'New Music' menu on the touch it would progress to the next track whatever folder it was in, maybe I imagined it though. andyt32's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57608 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96778 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to improve Touch sound?
ivanyiu wrote: Hi Guido, I try to get what setting you're using to work in my system by failed. I use a USB DAC, with EDO only it work fine. Intalled TT tt -i, the playback start crackling. resume to normal with tt -r Then I try to follow SBGK's suggestion to update the values. The crackling gone. but command tt -s show that kernel modification disabled. I wonder if I do anything wrong, do you also get the kernel modification disabled with the tt -s command? I'm sorry, I use SPDIF (Toslink) into my DSPeaker Dual Core DAC/EQ, not USB, so I cannot replicate your problem. Earlier on, I tried USB via a VLink II USB to SPDIF converter, and had no problem with crackling. Try varying the order in which you load TT, EDO, and SBGK. If that does not work, I would suggest dropping TT from the mix. Best, Guido F. guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Pre-caching artwork problem
Hello all, Well, pleased to say problem is know fixed. I used Mp3tag to remove all artwork and that still didn't fix it so I devided my collection in half and loaded 1 half onto a USB stick. The touch scanned the stick correctly. Good so fare. Then I had a stroke of luck. I had decided to add albums 5 at atime until it failed the scan. The next five albums I added made it fail the scan. I then removed them one at a time until the scan completed successfuly. It turned out to be a Kasabian album which according to Mp3tag doesnt even have any artwork. Very strange. The result is I know have my hole collection minus 1 album all running lovely. Thanks for all the help. Pete ptgrav's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH
Moving the static IPs up in the hundreds and re-adjusting the DHCP pool settings to use those below 100 seem to have done the trick. Thanks. Tip: I didn't find a way of manually changing the IPs on the TOUCH and radios, so I temporarily disabled DCHP on the router and following a reset of the devices, they prompt for an IP address. Once set, renabled DCHP pool and rebooted the whole system including router and hey ho. Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96736 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH
Waldo Pepper wrote: Moving the static IPs up in the hundreds and re-adjusting the DHCP pool settings to use those below 100 seem to have done the trick. Thanks. Tip: I didn't find a way of manually changing the IPs on the TOUCH and radios, so I temporarily disabled DCHP on the router and following a reset of the devices, they prompt for an IP address. Once set, renabled DCHP pool and rebooted the whole system including router and hey ho. Correct. There is no easy manual way of setting fixed IP addresses for TOUCH and RADIO or CONTROLLER. Your method is what I do. For older players (SB3, Boom, Transporter), one can do this in the player itself. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96736 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Pre-caching artwork problem
ptgrav wrote: Hello all, Well, pleased to say problem is know fixed. I used Mp3tag to remove all artwork and that still didn't fix it so I devided my collection in half and loaded 1 half onto a USB stick. The touch scanned the stick correctly. Good so fare. Then I had a stroke of luck. I had decided to add albums 5 at atime until it failed the scan. The next five albums I added made it fail the scan. I then removed them one at a time until the scan completed successfuly. It turned out to be a Kasabian album which according to Mp3tag doesnt even have any artwork. Very strange. The result is I know have my hole collection minus 1 album all running lovely. Thanks for all the help. Pete This kasabian album does it have any artwork files in the folder ? It is not only the embedded art that's matter ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly losing TOUCH
The other manual way to add static IP is to use SSH and edit the network files on the Touch itself . For some reason Logitech always refused to include this standard option ? Even my iPad has it , and apple is the epitome of the walled garden :) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96736 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tracks wont progress
andyt32 wrote: Yeh playing tracks from music folders works fine, but I thought before, when i selected the first track from the 'New Music' menu on the touch it would progress to the next track whatever folder it was in, maybe I imagined it though. yes, that is the behavior in selecting a song after browsing to an album (plays all the songs in the album). But this is very different from saving a song as a favorite then playing that favorite. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96778 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Pre-caching artwork problem
Hello Mnyb, there was no artwork in folder as I had deleted them first. Very strange. Even when i look at the tags no artwork is shown. Pete ptgrav's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96767 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch: Listening to radio without mysqueezebox.com
Unless of course, by the time LMS is dead, your favourite radio station has joined an ecosystem and is only available via a plugin and for pay. Which is where is is all headed, at least where commercial radio is concerned. The non-profit ones likely to always stay on the open web. Osamede's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11753 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96597 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
pippin wrote: Yes, I meant whether you have set username/password in LMS No, when I try to log in to MySqueezebox it says invalid email or password, even though that email/password works if i go directly to the site in my laptop browser. Headboy100's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
I didn't mean MySqueezebox.com, I meant the server, you can enable password protection for that as well. But I assume you didn't do that, right? pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
pippin wrote: I didn't mean MySqueezebox.com, I meant the server, you can enable password protection for that as well. But I assume you didn't do that, right? Ah, no. Headboy100's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96804 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't see LMS, but LMS can play music on Touch
Headboy100 wrote:
I don't know if this will help (or if its poor protocol to copy chunks
of files directly into messages) but here is a dump of the relevant part
of the Touch log file. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of this
than me might spot something. Is the bit about skipping wake on lan
significant?
I couldn't see anything in the LMS log file that seemed to relate to the
connection attempt.
Oct 19 23:30:29 squeezeplay: INFO applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:215 Using existing server with same ip
address: SlimServer {192.168.0.39}
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:648 connectPlayerToServer() LocalPlayer
{Squeezebox Touch} SlimServer {192.168.0.39}
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: WARN squeezebox.server -
SlimServer.lua:624 wakeOnLan(): SKIPPING WOL, self.mac: nil,
self:isSqueezeNetwork(): false
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO squeezebox.player -
LocalPlayer.lua:203 connectToServer(): connecting localPlayer to
serverSlimServer {192.168.0.39} via internal call
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO net.slimproto - SlimProto.lua:592
connect to 192.168.0.39 (192.168.0.39)
Oct 19 23:30:31 squeezeplay: INFO net.slimproto - SlimProto.lua:152
Send HELO: reconnect-bit=0 bytesReceived(H,L)=0,27362083
Oct 19 23:30:51 squeezeplay: WARN applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:634 Connection failure or Timeout, current
count: 21
I do not read code that well, but I know some background facts .
WakeOnLan aka WOL is something the squeezebox always try against it
latest conected server , this is quite neat as many modern computers
will be in sleep mode when not used for a while and hence not visible to
the Touch .
Even a successfully WOL can take some time depending on the computers
status how fast it wakes . It can even boot the computer. In such case
you try to choose my music Touch find no server but it sends out the
WOL command either waking or booting the machine , but if this takes to
long you will have an error message ignore that and don't touch anything
and it will fix itself when things are ready , that is how it is
supposed to work .
Now I don't know if this is relevant to your NAS at all if it has a
sleep mode or if it is supporting wakeOnLan at all .
What can throw in a spanner here is that almost no wifi network cards
supports WOL , but this probably does not apply to your NAS . But in
such cases LMS running on a wifi conected laptop that goes to sleep
could be unavailable until someone manually wakes it up .
This is another reason to why we recommend thatnthe server should be
wired .
Back to,the subjects of ports . There can be another problem that can
thwart conectivity that is if the server and the player is not on the
same network and subnet for example in your case 192.168.0.x and subnet
mask 255.255.255.0 where x differs on the clients . You can get this
even if you think have the rigth ip adresses by using another router as
wifi ap but connecting or setting it up the wrong way so that it forms
it own network ,it may itself be a client to the main router .
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