Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch music folder access very slow

2012-12-08 Thread ChipMonk

An update for all of you who provided advice to help me with my very
long scan times and, mainly, my slow and clunky music folder navigation.
I have spent a silly amount of time over the last week tidying up my
collection in order to try to solve these issues. I tackled it in 4
phases.

1. Studying the scanner log showed that the main error messages were
caused by a significant number of cue files unable to locate the
corresponding full disc flac file. Invariably the problem had been
caused by foreign characters in some of the file/track names getting
mangled (oh the joys of an old classical music collection). I went
through correcting all these errors
2. I found substantial blocks of tracks with little or no tagging data
attached, which had been missed in the past - these tags were updated
3. I finished the ongoing process of converting residual ape and wv
files to flac.
4. I used cue splitter to split up all remaining whole disc flac files
into individual tracks and eliminated cue files.

After each of these four stages I did a complete cache cleanup and
overnight scan on my Tranquil BBS2 Atom WHS 2011 server. I have to
report that, within experimental error, the scan times remained pretty
much the same i.e. about six hours for a full scan, about 2 hours for a
rescan for files changes. In parallel to this, at each stage, I used my
newly updated music library backup on an old, energy profligate, desktop
machine, (Win7 with LMS same version 7.7.2) to do faster scanning checks
for errors etc. In this case, full scan was consistently about 2 hours
re-scan 10 -15 mins throughout.

At the end of all this I certainly have a more orderly collection, the
database of my music should be in much better shape and sql based random
playlists will find long lost tracks. But I’ve seen absolutely no
evidence that it has noticeably improved scan times and Music Folder
navigation (my preferred means of music selection) appears to be as
erratic and clunky as ever. Which is a great pity!

In the middle of all this, I received an email from Logitech customer
services requesting feedback and my opinion about their products and
whether or not I recommended them to friends and colleagues. I took the
opportunity to express, in no uncertain terms, my “disappointment” at
their dropping the Squeezebox line just as the market for quality
streaming products is taking off. I trust that everyone else has done
the same.

Thanks again for everyone's help with this - I am still open to any
suggestions as to how I can improve Music Folder navigation and, if at
all possible, how to stop the automatic scanning which appears to be
triggered when moving through Music Folders.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Future Squeezeboxes added to network requiring user account at mysqueezebox.com

2012-12-08 Thread toby10

I'd be more concerned with using WEB itself than what form of
authentication your WEP is using.  ;)

I believe you can bypass the registration request by swiping the screen
L to R.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Future Squeezeboxes added to network requiring user account at mysqueezebox.com

2012-12-08 Thread reinholdk

klezmer41 wrote: 
 Anyway during setup, I was required to put in my user/pass for
 mysqueezebox.com.
 
 What will happen to the Squeezeboxes if this website is shut down, and
 also if it's shut down will I be unable to add new Squeezeboxes to the
 network?

It's possible to bypass registration for mysb.com.
For example, there's a detailed description for the SBT here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96209-Setting-up-a-Touch-without-connecting-to-mysb-comp=717247viewfull=1#post717247


I added a SBT to my network without registering at mysb.com by simply
disconnecting the WAN side of my broadband router during initial setup.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT - Ethernet Connector

2012-12-08 Thread CharlieG

Mr_Mxlptlk wrote: 
 Hi forum,
 
 I’m new to this forum (and new to SBT either). Not sure if a product was
 a good choice, when I need to contact the forum one day after the
 product was unboxed - anyway:
 
 there seems to be a problem with the Ethernet jack. I'm using cables
 with shielded connectors that formerly worked very well with a bunch of
 hubs and computers. But the jack of my SBT seems to be a bit
 waggly/loose. When trying to connect to network via cable, SBT says that
 there is no cable connected. When I'm pressing the connector a bit
 up/down, the control LED on my switch always confirmes this manipulation
 by flashing. I tried different cables with the same result.
 
 Is this normal behavior by SBT?
 
 Thanks in advance, Tom

No, I would say this is not normal.  I have two Touches and the Ethernet
connection feels just like any other device I have.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT - Ethernet Connector

2012-12-08 Thread bimboy

I also had this problem and sent my SBT back to Logitech who sent me a
replacement. I have not had a problem with the replacement unit.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SqueezePad or iPeng app?

2012-12-08 Thread Saturn94

If I load music on my iPad how do I stream it to stereo using iPang?  Is
there something I have to do in LMS on my computer to do this?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SqueezePad or iPeng app?

2012-12-08 Thread garym

Saturn94 wrote: 
 If I load music on my iPad how do I stream it to stereo using iPang?  Is
 there something I have to do in LMS on my computer to do this?

You don't load your music on the ipad to stream. You have your music on
your PC where you are running LMS.  Then on iPeng on your ipad, you
control the LMS.  In iPeng you select the Squeezebox player you want to
control (e.g., your Touch).  If you want to actually *play* the music
through your iPad, you select your ipad as the player within ipeng.  
But in all cases, the music is on a harddrive connected to the PC
running LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SqueezePad or iPeng app?

2012-12-08 Thread Saturn94

garym wrote: 
 You don't load your music on the ipad to stream. You have your music on
 your PC where you are running LMS.  Then on iPeng on your ipad, you
 control the LMS.  In iPeng you select the Squeezebox player you want to
 control (e.g., your Touch).  If you want to actually *play* the music
 through your iPad, you select your ipad as the player within ipeng.  
 But in all cases, the music is on a harddrive connected to the PC
 running LMS.

So I cannot stream music from my iPad to my stereo with my current setup
(SB Touch, LMS on computer, iPeng on iPad).  Is this correct?

I don't have any music on my iPad yet, but may in the future, hence my
question.  I'm guessing that I would have to have some sort of AirPlay
device to stream from the iPad to the stereo?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SqueezePad or iPeng app?

2012-12-08 Thread garym

Saturn94 wrote: 
 So I cannot stream music from my iPad to my stereo with my current setup
 (SB Touch, LMS on computer, iPeng on iPad).  Is this correct?
 
 I don't have any music on my iPad yet, but may in the future, hence my
 question.  I'm guessing that I would have to have some sort of AirPlay
 device to stream from the iPad to the stereo?

correct. you can't do this.  But completely unrelated to LMS or ipeng,
one can have music on ipad and use some apple apps, airplay, icloud etc.
to stream from ipad to your stereo.  But why do you even need this? 
Isn't your complete music library already on your PC. You can already
stream to your stereo and control with your ipad.  

note: I also put lossy versions of some of my music on my iphone and
ipad, but not for streaming to my home stereo (for that I use LMS).
These local versions of songs are just for headphone listening when
traveling.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SqueezePad or iPeng app?

2012-12-08 Thread Saturn94

garym wrote: 
 correct. you can't do this.  But completely unrelated to LMS or ipeng,
 one can have music on ipad and use some apple apps, airplay, icloud etc.
 to stream from ipad to your stereo.  But why do you even need this? 
 Isn't your complete music library already on your PC. You can already
 stream to your stereo and control with your ipad.

Good point.

 note: I also put lossy versions of some of my music on my iphone and
 ipad, but not for streaming to my home stereo (for that I use LMS).
 These local versions of songs are just for headphone listening when
 traveling.

This would be nice to do.  I did post a question on the Apple site about
if I can transfer music files from my PC to my iPad if my PC doesn't
have iTunes (for now I'd prefer not to load it on my PC).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SqueezePad or iPeng app?

2012-12-08 Thread garym

Saturn94 wrote: 
 Good point.
 
 
 
 This would be nice to do.  I did post a question on the Apple site about
 if I can transfer music files from my PC to my iPad if my PC doesn't
 have iTunes (for now I'd prefer not to load it on my PC).

there are ways to do it, but the most straightforward way is to have
itunes on your PC. I have it on my PC, but I only use if for
transferring music to my iphones/ipods/ipads.   You can have this and
use it and it won't interfere with your LMS. And although there is a way
to integrate the two, I don't recommend that approach.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2012-12-08 Thread HumanMedia

New firmware 1.41 is out for the NAD M51.
Anyone tested it yet with USB and EDO?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch considered lower SQ than CD player on a high-end system?

2012-12-08 Thread ralphpnj

Plenty of really good responses and lots of positive things being said
about the Touch. One thing to keep in mind is that you can use the
Touch's analog outputs for the time being and while doing so you can
start a leisurely search for an external DAC to use with the Touch. If
one is not in a hurry and willing to bide one's time there is a very
good possibility that great sounding DAC can be found on the used market
for a very nice price. One good thing about audiophiles is that many of
them are always chasing the next hot thing so last year's must have
DAC can often be had this year at a substantial savings.

Happy listening and happy hunting!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch music folder access very slow

2012-12-08 Thread aubuti

ChipMonk wrote: 
 After each of these four stages I did a complete cache cleanup and
 overnight scan on my Tranquil BBS2 Atom WHS 2011 server. I have to
 report that, within experimental error, the scan times remained pretty
 much the same i.e. about six hours for a full scan, about 2 hours for a
 rescan for files changes. In parallel to this, at each stage, I used my
 newly updated music library backup on an old, energy profligate, desktop
 machine, (Win7 with LMS same version 7.7.2) to do faster scanning checks
 for errors etc. In this case, full scan was consistently about 2 hours
 re-scan 10 -15 mins throughout.
 
What are the hardware specs on the Tranquil and the old desktop? The
scan times are dramatically different, so if the old desktop doesn't
have equally dramatically better hardware then it would seem that you
may have configuration issues on your Tranquil, either with the
hardware, with WHS, or with LMS itself. You could look in the
performance section of LMS (Settings  Advanced  Performance) to see if
they are very different between the desktop and the Tranquil. As others
have mentioned, browsing music folders is largely a function of the OS
itself, rather than LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Play List Options

2012-12-08 Thread johnreid

Wow!!! That is the answer. Thanks.

Johnreid



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