Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread TimT

Here was my setup: two Squeezebox Receivers with Controller, Squeezebox
Touch, LMS running on a Windows PC, music files stored on the Windows
PC. Before that, I had LMS running on a Western Digital My Book Live
(1tb), music files stored on the same. The latter setup was slow but
quiet; the former setup was fast but noisy. Setting up the SBRs was
fiddly, and the SBT was hidden in the back of my stereo cabinet -- who
needs a touchscreen when all you need is a music player and your mobile
is your remote?

Last fall I built two players using RPi2b, HiFi Dac+ and HiFi Digi+. At
first, I didn't know what I was doing but there is a lot of information
on the forum about how to build the players and set them up so the first
try took me about half an hour -- and at least half of that time was
devoted to figuring out how to put the case together. The Pi/Digi+ runs
Max2Play and LMS on a 8gb microSD card. Music files are stored out of
sight and sound on the My Book Live. The Pi/HiFi Dac+ runs piCorePlayer
1.21. Setting up the players -- Max2Play and piCorePlayer -- is through
a Web interface. Really easy to do. Once the players are set up, your
running LMS on the Pi/Max2Play finds them automatically. What surprised
me is how efficiently the My Book Live serves the music files. Retrieval
is nearly instantaneous on my network (all wired, no wifi) from both of
my players (upstairs and downstairs).

If you like the Touch form factor (the touchscreen, the stand, the
remote etc.) by all means start with that. However, I believe that the
SBT is more player than needed if that is all you use it for; and unlike
the Pi/Max2Play, the SBT won't run LMS. So you are still have to figure
out how you are going to run LMS (NAS? PC? HTPC? something else?) and
where your music files will be stored (USB drive? NAS? PC? HTPC?
something else?).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread reinholdk

re 1:
- let LMS start automatically when the PC starts up
- let the PC fall into sleep mode when it's not used, there's a plugin
(to be activated on the LMS settings page) that prevents this as long as
a player is on
- enable wake-on-lan (WOL) on the PC (you can get more details how to
configure this if you wish)
- when a player is switched on, it sends a WOL packet to wake up the PC



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread Man in a van

daleyb wrote: 
> Not too tech savy-need to keep it simple the ras.PI thing may be too
> difficult to set up I will just run from Home P.C. For now.  
> 2 Questions spring to mind at the mo'.
> 
> 1. Is it advised to keep LMS SERVER running constant on my P.C. or just
> appear on start up.I realise my p.c needs to be on not sleeping to run
> S.B.T.
> 
> 2. Does Qnap support LMS ( my thoughts are more no. ) I was going to get
> one of those to stream via DLNA, before I realised I didn't have to
> break the bank to set up a music library...



Answer:

1) leave it to run when you start the PC, no point in it being on unless
you wake in the middle of the night :eek:  and want some tunes.

2) yes LMS can be run on a Qnap, but at the moment that is a step to
far, patience, Grasshopper..:p



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread daleyb

mherger wrote: 
> > When Logitech build "new" Squeezeboxes they also did a job to involve
> > NAS builders to add LMS into their NAS.
> 
> Only the Netgear ReadyNAS ever got "official" support from us. All 
> others have done it on their own, or based on some community work. 
> Nothing has changed in this regard.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Not too tech savy-need to keep it simple the ras.PI thing may be too
difficult to set up I will just run from Home P.C. For now.  
2 Questions spring to mind at the mo'.

1. Is it advised to keep LMS SERVER running constant on my P.C. or just
appear on start up.I realise my p.c needs to be on not sleeping to run
S.B.T.

2. Does Qnap support LMS ( my thoughts are more no. ) I was going to get
one of those to stream via DLNA, before I realised I didn't have to
break the bank to set up a music library...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread Michael Herger

When Logitech build "new" Squeezeboxes they also did a job to involve
NAS builders to add LMS into their NAS.


Only the Netgear ReadyNAS ever got "official" support from us. All 
others have done it on their own, or based on some community work. 
Nothing has changed in this regard.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread DJanGo

didjean wrote: 
> 
> NAS was the way forward 5 year ago for Squeezebox. Now, there are so
> many other cheaper possibilities.

Its a bit more complicated...

When Logitech build "new" Squeezeboxes they also did a job to involve
NAS builders to add LMS into their NAS. Most of the NASses (that supoort
some LMS) cant use the outofthebox Version/Paket from LMS direct - so
you need a NAS that has Power and supports the actual Updates.
Since Logitech pull the plug most (afaik all of them) need new LMS
Pakets and the only way to get them is 3rd Party updates from some
customers here. (Take a look to some Threads)

*BUT* If you spend some time to rip & Tag your Stuff, a NAS is always
the WAY to go for Backups and you can/should also put your Photos
there.

SO "my" Tipp is - get your Touch running, add some small PC/Rpi2(3) to
run LMS and if you want a backup device go for a NAS (depends if your
able to built your "own" or buy some.)
I would prefer something thats opensource in case the supplier pull the
plug you can alter it.



Gruss
Jan

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] To NAS or not to NAS

2016-04-07 Thread didjean

And why not just consider buying a RaspberryPi, install
www.max2play.com, plug a hard drive and use it for server/files only.
Currently I am using an Intel NUC, it does work great, but I am more and
more considering moving to max2play. I believe it's even more cost
effective (power use).
I've been testing it with a pi3, the response is great, you get all
features,  and even more as you can use airplay.
NAS was the way forward 5 year ago for Squeezebox. Now, there are so
many other cheaper possibilities.



Touch + Cambridge Audio 651R & DAC Magic + Q Acoustics Concept 40 /
Touch + Onkyo TX-SR309 + Morel Applause MKII / SB2, SB3, and Duet / 2
Boom / 7 Radios / Ipeng & SqueezePad / Windows 8.1 + LMS 7.9.0 -
1415373344 on Intel NUC i5

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