Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amplifier recommendations for "new" Touch
fletch wrote: > Got a new (to me) Touch yesterday and while it was squirrely out of the > box , getting the community firmware updates make it work like new . > Thanks for keeping this alive! > > I have not had a proper stereo in many years. I see very inexpensive > rec/amps on Amazon but I am sure there is some kind of catch. > > We have a bookshelf/desk/cabinet next to our fireplace and that is where > we have a cheap all in one located currently. > > Want to replace it with the touch and a rec/amp or just an amp. I don't > need something super powerful or expensive but I don't want junk ether. > > > What are good brands to look for these days?? > > Thanks If you're starting from scratch, I'd consider something like the JBL 308P active speakers. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114340 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ah the lovely Squeezebox Touch - it has returned to the fold
stop-spinning wrote: > It has the same configuration but it's not that beast of a power supply. > Goes to show what potential you can get out of the SBT though! > > An SBT on average sells for £100 (sometimes less) - and this power > supply £600! So what you effectively get is a streamer for £700! > Disproportionately priced you may think, but if the combo exceeds a > modern day £1000 streamer then, money well spent I guess if you think of > it that way. > > I know for a fact that the linear power supply I have is hugely > influential in a positive way - what that £600 one will do I can only > imagine! > > if you are deadly serious about your SBT - perhaps you owe it to > yourself to invest in one of these power supplies and not worry about > the ratio of the investment. You have to try it for yourself and see I > guess. I owe it to myself not to waste money on power supplies that don't make any audible difference. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113913 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
wartburgritter wrote: > I own a Squeeze Touch. The balance has a problem. One speaker is much > more loud than the other. If I change the cable on the bass speakeron > the box the balance is switched. Means the two small speaker work well > and the wrong balance comes out of the big bass speaker. Two > possibilities ... it is somehow adjusted or something is broken. But it > seams I can not change balance on a Squeezebox Touch. Any help is very > welcome. > > cheers bernd Can you describe the setup a bit more? The model of the speakers and how the wiring from the Touch is done? In these situations, it's good to have a voltmeter around so you can test the output from the Touch by playing a test tone through it and measuring the output voltage. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > What's the current situation with Squeezebox Touch and LMS? Would any > of you be willing to give me a short summary? I've been out of touch > with this community since 2012! > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about that already. The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still use mine for my headphone system. I use an RPi4 (headless) running piCorePlayer for my speaker system. For me, the biggest changes in LMS were: * LMS 7.9 including a Composer menu. * Qobuz * Material Skin, finally a decent web interface * Music & Artist Info (I can read all those PDFs in my music folders) Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
I'm hearing clicks between tracks when playing FLAC/DoP (DSD-over-PCM). I think I saw someone else complaining about this in another thread. Is this a known issue? Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
HumanMedia wrote: Absolutely no issues with Flac/DoP here. LMS 7.8 with ethernetted SBT. I'm using 7.7.3 with a wireless connection. So the issue is one of * LMS * Wireless vs. wired * DAC I really don't want to run ethernet to the Touch. However, I hear don't similar clicks when playing 24/192 files, so I don't think it's a bandwidth issue. To eliminate the DAC, I may try playing the files with some other media server, like JRiver. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Daverz wrote: Just got my Aurilac Vega DAC today, and the async USB works great with EDO. I did have to use the large buffer setting to get 24/192 to work with the Vega's exact clock setting. I spoke too soon. The Vega stutters when switching between sample rates with the exact clock setting whatever buffer setting I use on the Touch. I have to back off to the clock setting to auto if I'm doing a lot of switching between sample rates. If I'm just playing one sample rate, the exact setting is OK. Not a huge deal, as the clock accuracy probably still beats most DACs out there. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
Just got my Aurilac Vega DAC today, and the async USB works great with EDO. I did have to use the large buffer setting to get 24/192 to work with the Vega's exact clock setting. For DSD64, I used Sonore's command-line dsf2flac program to convert a sample DFF file from 2L Records to a DSD-over-PCM (DoP) FLAC, and it worked fine. I haven't tried DXD or DSD128 yet. http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/531-auralic-vega-digital-audio-processor-review/ http://www.auralic.com http://www.sonore.us/apps.html http://www.2l.no/hires/ +---+ |Filename: open.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15689| +---+ Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput
reverendo wrote: Daverz, Doesn't converting the file kind of defeat the purpose of DSD? Just curious. No, DoP just uses PCM as the delivery format to the DAC. It's treated as DSD at the DAC end. Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most of Internet Radio seems to be MP3 Format..............
Jazz Wyoming, KUWL, streams at 256kbps and sounds pretty good. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86430 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] dbPowerAmp/Classical Music SB Touch
souwalker;618870 Wrote: In dbpoweramp, where can we put the orchestra name? In the Album Artis field? Eg. Christoph von Dohmanyi - The Cleveland Orchestra? Rgds The ORCHESTRA field is the same as the BAND field, if there is one. I would just put this info in the ARTIST field, unless you specifically want to browse by BAND (and then I think you'll need custom browse for that, though hopefully I'm wrong). And my tendency would be to just shorten it to Dohnanyi/Cleveland. I do use the CONDUCTOR and BAND tag, but I don't know why I bother because I never use it for anything that couldn't be handled by the ARTIST tag. If you want to credit all the artists, I think it would be better to put them in the COMMENT or use a custom tag like PERFORMER. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85659 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to convert CD in FLAC + CUE into individual tracks?
On Linux I use shnsplit. This is from a suite of commmand-line tools, shntools. On Mac I use XLD. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86057 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] dbPowerAmp/Classical Music SB Touch
You'll find some advice on tagging classical music on the Wiki. There's no standard way to do it. There are standard tags for COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR and BAND (or orchestra). Unfortunately, these don't get displayed up front. There is an option to fold them into artists, but it doesn't work in the album display or in now playing. These fields do work in searches. I try to put the composer in the album title and leave ARTIST for the actual musicians, e.g. ALBUM: Brahms Tchaikovsky: Violin Concertos ARTIST: Heifetz; Reiner If you have a large collection, you should look into Custom Scan/Browse. At the very least it allows you to create a menu sorted by the COMPOSER tag, or you can add your own custom tags. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85659 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A DAC for the SB
magiccarpetride;596144 Wrote: I wouldn't advise you take the above approach. The reason is that DACs are notorious for needing a lot of burn in time. This concept always reminds me of David Brin's '\practice effect\' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Practice_Effect): In this world, instead of objects wearing out as you use them, they improve. This is referred to as the Practice effect. For example, swords get sharper with use, baskets get stronger the more things they carry, mirrors, furniture and decorations look more attractive the more they are looked at. The downside to this being that an object's condition deteriorates over time if not put to use. Under this system, members of society's higher strata employ servants to Practice their own possessions to perfection. Needless to say, our world doesn't work this way. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pfarrell;540023 Wrote: And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor on the data file, and adjust it once. Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently with a DAW. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote: Do you really adjust balance a lot/often? I don't have a balance control on my pre-amp! I bought into the whole audiophile purity thing, regrettably. No balance control, tone controls, loudness, etc. I did have a balance control on my older gear and did use it occasionally. The thing is, you may never use a balance control often, but when you need it, you really need it. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pfarrell;540190 Wrote: Daverz wrote:[color=blue] This is the touch forum. Its hard to see how you need to adjust the balance much if you are close enough to use the touch screen. I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way you do. My Touch is in my equipment rack, 3.3 meters away from my listening chair, where it's connected to my DAC. There is no balance control on my pre-amp, which is unfortunately typical for many high end pre-amps these days. A decade about, I would agree that not everyone could use a DAW. Even inexpensive ones cost $100 and good ones were close to a grand. I don't know about you, but I'm not interested in spending any money on PC speakers, so I have a couple crappy speakers placed suboptimally (not even balanced) in the space available near my PC that are adequate for listening to Youtube and the like. This is worthless for getting the proper balance at the listening position in my living room system. Again, the problem here is that you expect people to do things the way you would do them and do without the things you don't need. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
pfarrell;540327 Wrote: Daverz wrote:[color=blue] So the fact that your preamp is missing a feature that you desire makes you want it in your source devices? This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Well, now I'm not having any trouble with 24/96 or 24/88 flacs. I tried encoding some flacs with -8 and --best. No problem. But wav playback stutters (not an issue for me). -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
Ah, the Screen Off screensaver is perfect, thanks. I'll just leave it on all the time as my eyesight is not good enough to read the display from my listening chair, anyway. I still think a button on the remote that would start the Screen Off screensaver immediately would still be a good addition for a later version of the remote. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
One use for a balance control is for those occasional recordings where the balance is off. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and burn in
I'll go further: the bogus concept of burn-in is a scam to get people to hold onto equipment beyond the product return period. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should volume control only affect the analog outputs?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 Question: Should volume control only affect the analog outputs? - Yes, I don't/wouldn't use the digital outputs anyway - Yes, I want to use the digital outputs and want them locked at 100% - Yes (some other reason) - No, I want variable output for the digital outputs - No (some other reason) What's this only stuff? I want to be able to configure either. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77824 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
Is there a way to blank the display for listening in the dark? (This feature should be on the remote, IMO.) The display brightness won't dim all the way, and this is a tedious process anyway. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
Is there a way to blank the display for listening in the dark? (This feature should be on the remote, IMO.) The display brightness won't dim all the way, and this is a tedious process anyway. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and burn in
Phil Leigh;538976 Wrote: 2) The mere fact that (audio) equipment ALWAYS sounds better after being burned-in This is the well-known '-practice effect-' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Practice_Effect). -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77727 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
I don't see a reason that a whole host of digital effects could not be offered in the interface. The needed software (e.g. sox) is there. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] The Ing is coming
erland;538945 Wrote: What browsing functionality are you missing ? Erland, my Custom Browse menus are broken with the Touch interface. In particular, Play All does not work. The play button on the remote works fine. I probably should do a formal bug report (where?) The problem is similar to those I had with iPeng, and which I've already discussed here at length with Pippen. So far what I like about the Touch: * Being able to choose different radio streams. * Doubles as a nice looking digital clock. It does seem to have brought sound quality up a notch even using the digital coax out, but that may just be the coolness factor affecting my judgement. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77728 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] And Now The Touch?
maggior;538661 Wrote: You could accomplish that by purchasing a SBR (the player part of the duet) and controlling it with your Touch. With the Touch, you can select a player to control just like the controller. This assumes that one day you'll be able to buy a seperate player one day... Yes, but I want the improved transport electronics of the Touch as well. I could always buy another Touch to use as a controller, but this is starting to get expensive! -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77701 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Just got my Touch. I have my Duet reciever and Touch synchronized and both connected to my Cambridge 840C DAC and can switch between them with the 840C remote. I can't hear any difference between them. Well, I didn't really expect to, since the 840C should be fairly jitter immune. Comparing the analog to digital will be a little trickier because of the different output levels and the fact that I have to get out of my chair to switch them on the pre-amp. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
andyg;538006 Wrote:
Yes the main area that is a problem is the initial startup of a 24/96
track.
If anyone wants to experiment, try adjusting the $outputThreshold value
in Slim::Player::Squeezebox:
Code:
# Threshold the output buffer for high sample-rate flac.
if ( $track ) {
if ( $track-samplerate() $track-samplerate() =
88200 ) {
$outputThreshold = 20;
}
}
Magic numbers in code, tut, tut, tut. Do I need to restart the server
for the change to take effect?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
andyg;538713 Wrote: Interesting, especially since I just noticed that the output_threshold code seems to be commented out in SqueezePlay... will need some more investigation. I spoke too soon. I was probably testing wrong when I thought there wasn't a stutter. That setting doesn't effect the stutter at all. You guys didn't test 24/96 flacs over a wireless network? -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch hits Slickdeals - 225$ from Logitech if honored
buurin;535879 Wrote: Did you guys have to pay tax on your orders? I did. I am in WA. $20 tax here in California. Ouch. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77298 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
