Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch considered lower SQ than CD player on a high-end system?
Mnyb wrote: > So by DAC side you mean both the internal and some arbirary external DAC > , as you say it opens up a plethora of different possibilities depending > on how the DAC is designed . > Hopefully most sane DAC's can take signals that is the full word length > for a couple of consecutive samples (loudness war digital clipping > mastering ) . > If read this correctly the analog filter in the dac could reconstruct > this at a higher level than usual and it better have some headroom to > cope with the result (or worse the digital filter implementation does > not correct for this ). > > Do you have a DAC that exhibits this ? Yes, thats how i mean it. Never realized that myself. My older DAC based on BB PCM63k had for sure more audible clipping on overcompressed recordings. I often heard that when my tweeters puked. I noticed it became less when i switched to the Transporter. Since i used its build in volume since day 1 i may have solved that problem once and for all even without knowing about it :) Benchmark introduced some feature in its DAC2 that " includes 3.5 dB of headroom above 0 dBFS" whatever that means. Maybe some DACs these days have this build in or they use some pre-defined volume drop. Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97483 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch considered lower SQ than CD player on a high-end system?
I just lately realized that my Transporters digital volume control prevents the hard clipping of intersample overs when i use it at my normal volume setting, mostly below -8dB. If i interpret my readings correctly a nearly clipped signal can create peaks after analog conversation up to +6dB. When no care is taken on the DAC side you may have very hard clipping. On the Transporter that means a fixed 100% volume may have more downsides as using the internal volume control. I have not done any testing, since i use my Transporter directly into my amps. Just wanted to mention this as food for thought. Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97483 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch digital out is bit perfect or other players have "better" bits ????
SBGK wrote: > funny how other forums look at hydrogenaudio as a bunch of kooks and > here they are revered, nuff said !!! Even more funny is how in "other forums" some are very good in quoting studies to proof things (often totaly out of context and wrongly interpreted) and linking to pdfs of AES that have members on hydrogenaudio and not over there ;) Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96419 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] ripping from PC to Touch USB-attached drive?
Mnyb;696211 Wrote: > If they are on the same network , Touch has smb sharing (samba ) so it > should be available trough your network . Totaly OT but meanwhile i love the Touch without owning one :) I may get me one soon only to play around and having some fun. I really can´t imagine to leave the Logitech/Slimdevices line anytime soon. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94164 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Blind Testing app - testers wanted
I have no Touch but find this idea funny! What i wonder is if here is a chance to cheat when someone knows to debug the processes and its changes in reasltime!? -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93583 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
garym;689914 Wrote: > i.e., the *mastering* of the 24/96 can be much better than the 16/44.1. > So one really has to compare the same mastering. I recall a long thread > on this issue a couple of years ago. It is even simpler here. The 24bit version is 44.1khz also. So simply dither down the 24bit version to 16bit and compare again. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
firedog;689849 Wrote: > Except that I've consistently picked out the 24bit versions in blind > testing. As as example, listen to the hand claps and the "jangly > guitar" in "Words of Love" - the hand claps sound more like the real > thing, and the guitar is more "jangly" in the 24bit. I think we had this here once. You have to comparethe 24bit version to a 16bit file coming from this 24bit file. The 24bit version is slightly different in loudness (afaik 0.2dB) and maybe treated a tiny bit different no matter what you read how they were done. Besides that hearing difference between 16 and 24bit is very unlikely with The Beatles. Even after remastering the noisefloor should be way to high. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
