Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME (music) PLAYER
toby10;550406 Wrote: If, on the other hand, you are willing to use the Touch with SBS on your computer then I would not hesitate. :) Very much agree. Wired ethernet with SBS on computer works great! I am running wired to router, SBS on computer, happily streaming 24bit 96kHz FLACs (transcode to PCM on server). Can't comment on TinySC tho' -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79118 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Discrete IR codes work for Menu Browse and Menu Search options?
Anyone know if the Menu browse \ Menu search discretes are supposed to work with the Touch? I have used the RMDU file from http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63757 successfully to get discrete power on\off etc. but the Menu browse\search do not seem to work with the Touch - they do work fine with my SB3s and more importantly with my *Boom*. Sorry for the cross post, thought this would get more visibility than in the DIY forum... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78961 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] which phone for Touch remote controller?
Droid and SqueezeCommander control my 5 SB3s, Touch, Duet and Boom - all controlled identically and easy to switch between (may be minor differences, but I can't tell. Can't compare to iPeng and iPhone, but exteremly simple to use for all tasks, especially things like search where you can use voice search for songs rather than typing (with Android 2.1). As per some Droid apps, if you leave it on all the time it will drain your battery fast... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78730 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
JohnSwenson;541864 Wrote: Tonight I tried the fix I'd found and it does work, no switching to 44.1 between hi sample rate tracks. Unfortunately its in the C code so it will have to be in a future firmware release. You can't just patch it with the Patch Installer. John S. Cool! I assume that if one had a playlist of 24/94, 16/44.1, 24/88.2, 24/48 etc. that it would also all work Ok/? I'm concerned that that bit of code to stitch to 44.1 was there for a reason -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Phil Leigh;541216 Wrote: I'm pretty sure your gap problem is indeed a different issue. I've not seen any gapless problem at 88.2/96, and I've seen no other reports. What server hardware are you using? Yeah, I have just managed to test this, but I do not get any gapless issues with 24/96 either... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Leigh;541393 Wrote: Hmm, weird. I am at work now but will do more testing later and see if I can figure out what's going on. I'm using a very hefty system for the server so it's not a CPU issue. I'm also running the latest server software. The gaps are very short, probably 1/5 of a second or so. I have to admit I only have one 24/96 gapless FLAC album to test with, and I converted to WAV to FLAC myself with FooBar2000 (-0 option), but it plays perfectly... BTW, I am running a nightly 7.5.1 - r30657 @ Sat Apr 17 01:08:36 PDT 2010 with 7.5.1-r8732 firmware on the Touch, as I was experiencing the faad.exe issue with 7.5.0 which 7.5.1. fixed... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540545 Wrote: As you can see I am a junior member and need some time to learn how to open a bug. Please let us know when\if you enter this bug, we will vote for it. Also happens on my Benchmark DAC-1 connected via digital coax; actually the red error light briefly lights up when skipping to the next 24/96 track, indicating loss of lock - no popping though. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540658 Wrote: OK, hope this is correct: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16146 If not, I am quite sure I will get a message :-) Voted and added my 2C! -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;538770 Wrote: The worst average CPU was about 50% which was when using VU meters. It's weird that things are so different in my environment!! During the stuttering on my Touch, looks like the CPU is maxed out.. 72% /usr/bin/jive 10% jive_alsa -d default -c default -b 200 8% jive-alsa -d plughw:2,0 -b 2 -p2 4% [sirq-tasklet/0] 2% [sirq-net-rx/0] 2% [IRQ-57] 2% [IRQ-34] -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What is the hardware version of your Touch?
5 -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77754 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
JohnSwenson;538191 Wrote: The variability in reports is interesting. I can play 24/96 -8 flacs from an external server, wired or wireless, VU meters on without any problems. Stopping, starting, changing files etc. It works perfectly. Yet others are having problems with -5 files wired without visualizers. That should be a BIG difference in CPU usage. That seems point to something else going on other than just flac decoder. John S. So to me it seems CPU-bound... When it stutters (analog VUs) top gives me CPU usage (approx values): 72% /usr/bin/jive 10% jive_alsa -d default -c default -b 200 8% jive-alsa -d plughw:2,0 -b 2 -p2 4%[sirq-tasklet/0] 2%[sirq-net-rx/0] 2%[IRQ-57] 2%[IRQ-34] When it does not stutter, the major difference is in /usr/bin/jive which goes down to approx 50% Note in my scenario, when it stutters, it continues to stutter - until I pause, get rid of the VUs, and restart the track... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;537854 Wrote: Do you happen to know what the compression level was to begin with? Did you have anything plugged into the USB or SD connectors when you experienced the stuttering? If not then this is very important info. Would you be willing to ssh into the Touch and run some tests while the stuttering is happening? Thanks, John S. Hi John, Nope, nothing in USB or SD connectors - this was brand new, out of the box from Logitech configured. As well as coax I did have RCA analog connections to it, but that was it. I was running the spectrum analyzer now playing, but it happens on all of them. yes, absolutely willing to ssh into it and run some tests. Just talk me through what you need me to do and I will follow. I don't knwo what the compression level was I am afraid - is there a way to find out? It's not stored in the tags anywhere. What I do know is that if I convert the original to wav, then flac at -8, the resulting file is larger in size than the original! regards, Ziggy -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;537854 Wrote: Do you happen to know what the compression level was to begin with? Did you have anything plugged into the USB or SD connectors when you experienced the stuttering? If not then this is very important info. Would you be willing to ssh into the Touch and run some tests while the stuttering is happening? Thanks, John S. Hi John, Nope, nothing in USB or SD connectors - this was brand new, out of the box from Logitech configured. As well as coax I did have RCA analog connections to it, but that was it. I was running the spectrum analyzer now playing, but it happens on all of them. yes, absolutely willing to ssh into it and run some tests. Just talk me through what you need me to do and I will follow. I don't knwo what the compression level was I am afraid - is there a way to find out? It's not stored in the tags anywhere. What I do know is that if I convert the original to wav, then flac at -8, the resulting file is larger in size than the original! regards, Ziggy -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Peter314;537859 Wrote: Curious. I removed the thumb drive from the USB port and changed an HDTracks album (World's Greatest Audiophile Vocal...) from -0 to -8. This is the one that stuttered before. It all played fine on the wired Touch, no stuttering. Peter S'interesting, that's the one that gives me problems too - Spanish Harlem was the one in particular, but there are others. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
JohnSwenson;537754 Wrote: The easiest way to do this is run a cable from the Touch to a laptop ethernet port (NOT the switch or router on your LAN), assuming the laptop is NOT running a DHCP server. Many thanks John, great solution! Worked perfectly! -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Phil Leigh;537908 Wrote: ...but, but, that's impossible! - unless different versions of the flac encoder library were involved... hmmm... Yes, they are different... The original was flac-ed in 1.2.1.20070917 and I have 1.2.1.20070715 on my PC... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Phil Leigh;537978 Wrote: Where did you get yours from? - that's not an officially released version (20070917 is...) Sheesh, so long ago I have no idea! It's under my EAC subdirectories, so maybe from there? I have just used FooBar2000 to convert using the 20070917 version, and the filesizes are still different. But I don't think I am comparing apples-to-apples - -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
So I was just prompted to download this firmware to the Touch, which I did. I set up SSH and was doing a top on the files that previously stuttered... and now all is OK! /usr/bin/jive is at like 60%... Was this firmware release to address this? -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
May have stumbled on how to do reproduce this... Happens to me when I *start *a track with the Analog VU meters as the Now Playing display. i get stuttering. If I start the track with the normal Album art and text now playing, all plays well, and I can change to the VU display, and the track keeps on playing. If I restart the track, stuttering again! -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Remote Control Codes
Seven;537970 Wrote: I looked at the .ccf-file on remotecentral (the one from February 2004), deduced the hex format from that and tried it with the discrete codes listed in this thread. They seem to work fine on the Touch with my URC MX-900 (using the hex editor). Seven - these both seem to be the same - can I ask you what you deduced as the format, I would liek to add some more discrete ones... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77401 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;537701 Wrote: First off, does anybody have any problems with an form of 24/96 when WIRED to an external server? Yes, I just purchased some music from HDTracks.com and I experience stuttering - I am wired Gigabit ethernet to an external server - am am going to try re-flac to 0 to see if this cures the issue... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
ziggyb63;537774 Wrote: Yes, I just purchased some music from HDTracks.com and I experience stuttering - I am wired Gigabit ethernet to an external server - am am going to try re-flac to 0 to see if this cures the issue... Yep, reflac-ing to 0 cured the issue - can provide the original and re-flaced files for debugging purposes ~80MB each - was using coaxial out, digital vol 100%, Cat6 gigabit Ethernet everywhere. This is going to be a pain! -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?
Swimmerbird123;535203 Wrote: Yes, at least this morning it was - tired of waiting on amazon, I ordered from Logitech USA this morning and received my shipping confirmation tonight - should arrive tomorrow! Swimmer Also got tired of Amazon, jost ordered from Logitech. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77060 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch has no fixed volume setting
Phil Leigh;532099 Wrote: +1 - categorically bit-perfect when vol=100 (DTS and HDCD prove this). The Touch doesn't need the -63dB setting for the analogue outs that was useful on the SB3). There is no additional analogue level control on the Touch. Many thanks for the info... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77018 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch has no fixed volume setting
JJZolx;531869 Wrote: Unlike Squeezeboxes before it, there is no ability to set the output volume to be fixed at 100% on the Touch. Please vote for 'bug 14807' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14807). Voted. Can someone confirm the Touch has a preamp volume control and that it works OK? For the SB3 the optimal setting for using digitals out was to set the output level to 100% and the preamp volume attenuation to max 63 for the analog outs... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77018 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] amazon cancelled today
GordyInMA-USA;517306 Wrote: I received a notice from Amazon about two weeks ago asking me if I wanted to continue my order for the Squeezebox Touch. All I did was answer yes, and my order is still in place... Since I'm not in a rush, I'll just hunker down and continue to wait. Same here, 2 days ago. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74273 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Controller\Touch Hybrid?
CouchPotatoe;457832 Wrote: M\and could be popped into either a desk standing cradle or wallmount holder where it would charge and be usable - both options.. Now I like that. I can see having multiple wallmounts in various rooms, then maybe two of these devices and moving them from room to room as required. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67566 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Controller\Touch Hybrid?
Phil Leigh;456888 Wrote: Why is the only high-rez Dire Straits album Brothers In Arms? (my least favourite!!!) Yeah, I know. I made the 'mistake' of getting that on SACD. At least some of the hundred's of SACDs I 'invested' in are hybrids (like Brothers In Arms), so I can rip them. Mind you , I still prefer a properly mixed multichannel experience compared to Dolby Pro Logic II, so I can't complain too much. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67566 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Controller\Touch Hybrid?
Hmmm, a shame, as people seem to feel this is not financially viable as a product offering from Logitech. I could see a product like this potentially sharing the same codebase as the current Controller (OK, Controller has a headphone out...), but I get the idea that the main PCB+screen would make up the majority of the cost. With Logitech manufacturing a wall mount for this piece of kit, I assume they are expecting it to be used as a controller-only-type device - I can't see them wanting people to run analog cable\digital in-wall to connect to some pre-amp; but the current price point is a bit prohibitive, at least for me... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67566 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
