Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
mcullinan;537577 Wrote: > Im thinking so.. Im on a PowerPC G5, I wonder if the Intel Macs also see > ALAC as MPEG-4? > > On a PC it sees an ALAC? > M Yes - on a PC/XP it sees it as ALAC. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Phil Leigh;537562 Wrote: > This is the weird thing, because that Copland file you posted played > fine under 7.6 for me on XP... wonder if there is a Mac issue with ALAC > detection...? Im thinking so.. Im on a PowerPC G5, I wonder if the Intel Macs also see ALAC as MPEG-4? On a PC it sees an ALAC? M -- mcullinan mcullinan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
mcullinan;537520 Wrote: > My ALAC files arent being seen as ALAC, just MPEG-4 So it never even > hits the ALAC filetype. And it was trying to convert to AAC, which I > guess cant be done. > M This is the weird thing, because that Copland file you posted played fine under 7.6 for me on XP... wonder if there is a Mac issue with ALAC detection...? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Phil Leigh;536874 Wrote: > It is frustrating but you need to understand that there are (at least) 2 > seperate problems, both of which only impact certain people based on > THEIR specific combination of platform and music files. As such these > bugs can be very hard to prevent (and quite hard to fix). > > They certainly weren't hit during beta AFAIK. > > However, Andy has fixed the faad memory exception bug that was > occasionally causing faad to crash on alac playback. The "Can't open > file..." problem is different... > > I've been trying to help with this but I can never recreate this error > on XP SP3 with 7.6. I've used example files sent by people with the > problem and they all work fine on my system. > > At one point it looked like the alac files were possibly being > misinterpreted as AAC (or MPEG-4 as SBS refers to them) and hence faad > was not being invoked - the native AAC decoder was being invoked > instead. > > This won't work, hence the advice to check your file types to ensure > that MPEG-4 is set to stream as FLAC via faad (same as "Apple > Lossless". > > If you turn on player.source logging you can see exactly what SBS is > trying to do when you play a track... > > This is NOT the default. > > However, this is only a workaraound (if I'm correct about the alac > files being wrongly identified as AAC). > > There may also be a problem with the tags generated via iTunes, but I > can't comment on that...I think some other folks have been looking at > that. My ALAC files arent being seen as ALAC, just MPEG-4 So it never even hits the ALAC filetype. And it was trying to convert to AAC, which I guess cant be done. M -- mcullinan mcullinan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Phil Leigh;536874 Wrote: > It is frustrating but you need to understand that there are (at least) 2 > seperate problems, both of which only impact certain people based on > THEIR specific combination of platform and music files. As such these > bugs can be very hard to prevent (and quite hard to fix). > > They certainly weren't hit during beta AFAIK. > > However, Andy has fixed the faad memory exception bug that was > occasionally causing faad to crash on alac playback. The "Can't open > file..." problem is different... > > I've been trying to help with this but I can never recreate this error > on XP SP3 with 7.6. I've used example files sent by people with the > problem and they all work fine on my system. > > At one point it looked like the alac files were possibly being > misinterpreted as AAC (or MPEG-4 as SBS refers to them) and hence faad > was not being invoked - the native AAC decoder was being invoked > instead. > > This won't work, hence the advice to check your file types to ensure > that MPEG-4 is set to stream as FLAC via faad (same as "Apple > Lossless". > > If you turn on player.source logging you can see exactly what SBS is > trying to do when you play a track... > > This is NOT the default. > > However, this is only a workaraound (if I'm correct about the alac > files being wrongly identified as AAC). > > There may also be a problem with the tags generated via iTunes, but I > can't comment on that...I think some other folks have been looking at > that. This seems to work. Finally able to play something. I will enable the logging you suggested in the BETA forum and post results when I get a chance. Maybe it will reveal the core problem. Thx. -- AudioFrog AudioFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
AudioFrog;536718 Wrote: > Ok I am frustrated. I have an SB2 and 2 days ago purchased a SB Touch > which mandates SBS 7.5. I have installed SBS 7.5, 7.5.1 + 7.6 and NONE > of them will FIX the 'Cannot open D:\Itunes' issue. I have a large > Itunes library completely made up of ALAC files and I cannot listen to > any of them. This is such a huge bug for a product that supposedly had > been delayed to make sure everthing worked out of the box. > > I have read the threads about this issue and have tried different SBS > builds, different FAAD.EXEs (even one that a none-Logitech person > modified to try and fix this issue) and none of them work. > > SBS has always been the Achilles Heel of this product line and when it > works it works well but it has been plagued with bugs that somehow make > it thru 'QA'. I was hoping this would be plug and play but I am ready to > throw the Touch thru a window. > > Sorry for the rant. This is just so unacceptable. It is frustrating but you need to understand that there are (at least) 2 seperate problems, both of which only impact certain people based on THEIR specific combination of platform and music files. As such these bugs can be very hard to prevent (and quite hard to fix). They certainly weren't hit during beta AFAIK. However, Andy has fixed the faad memory exception bug that was occasionally causing faad to crash on alac playback. The "Can't open file..." problem is different... I've been trying to help with this but I can never recreate this error on XP SP3 with 7.6. I've used example files sent by people with the problem and they all work fine on my system. At one point it looked like the alac files were possibly being misinterpreted as AAC (or MPEG-4 as SBS refers to them) and hence faad was not being invoked - the native AAC decoder was being invoked instead. This won't work, hence the advice to check your file types to ensure that MPEG-4 is set to stream as FLAC via faad (same as "Apple Lossless". If you turn on player.source logging you can see exactly what SBS is trying to do when you play a track... This is NOT the default. However, this is only a workaraound (if I'm correct about the alac files being wrongly identified as AAC). There may also be a problem with the tags generated via iTunes, but I can't comment on that...I think Copperstate has been looking at that. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Try this... Under advanced(In server settings) under filetypes disable MPEG4 to AAC. Should work then. With latest nightly build -- mcullinan mcullinan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37399 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Don't need too since a Logitech developer is already aware of the issue (in the DEV forum) but it has not resolved yet. How can this slip past testing? -- AudioFrog AudioFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
But have you tried to contact support? -- Kuben72 /Kuben72 1 Duet, 1 SBR, 1 SB3 and 1 Boom Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
But have you tried to contact support? -- Kuben72 /Kuben72 1 Duet, 1 SBR, 1 SB3 and 1 Boom Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Aarrg! SB Touch + SBS 7.5 = waste of money...
Ok I am frustrated. I have an SB2 and 2 days ago purchased a SB Touch which mandates SBS 7.5. I have installed SBS 7.5, 7.5.1 + 7.6 and NONE of them will FIX the 'Cannot open D:\Itunes' issue. I have a large Itunes library completely made up of ALAC files and I cannot listen to any of them. This is such a huge bug for a product that supposedly had been delayed to make sure everthing worked out of the box. I have read the threads about this issue and have tried different SBS builds, different FAAD.EXEs (even one that a none-Logitech person modified to try and fix this issue) and none of them work. SBS has always been the Achilles Heel of this product line and when it works it works well but it has been plagued with bugs that somehow make it thru 'QA'. I was hoping this would be plug and play but I am ready to throw the Touch thru a window. Sorry for the rant. This is just so unacceptable. -- AudioFrog AudioFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77511 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
