Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
pounce;539538 Wrote: Is this a common term somewhere? In my (non English speaking)area it is a common term, but I can see that this could have a complete other meaning in English. Sorry for the confusion. Still it could have the same meaning in English: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zapping Hopefully we can now consentrate on my problem. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
what model is your dac? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hi, It is a RME Multiface II Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539660 Wrote: Hi, It is a RME Multiface II Paal and is the Lock indicator going on and off on the RME when you zap? Also, are you running SBS on the Touch itself or on a PC/Mac? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Yes, the lock indicator starts flashing. (flashing means thar the input freq is out of range for lock) SBS is on a PC Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539672 Wrote: Yes, the lock indicator starts flashing. (flashing means thar the input freq is out of range for lock) SBS is on a PC Paal I just had the same problem when switching between 16bit and 24 bit and to fix it I had the digital relay in my Audio Note DAC modifier. It seems that most on the new DACs are reducing cost by not installing a relay that handles high res signal. -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Sorry - my ADSL gateway went down and my posting got messed up... Nicoleif - sounds like your DAC needed a muting relay fitted - that should have been there from day 1! Paalj - you have a different problem I think. What type of server are you using? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Phil Leigh;539696 Wrote: Nasty! Are you using the coax / spdif input on the RME? That SHOULD handle sample rate switching properly... However, it sounds like your dac's are not muting properly when lock is lost. That is very bad - for the reasons you've discovered. All DAC's should be fitted with a muting circuit (usually couple of transistors - could be a relay) that prevent any signal output from the DAC when input lock is lost. There's no excuse for this - it's penny-pinching and bad design. yes, I have tried both coax and optical, but problem is the same. You could argue that my dac is not muting properly, but the problem is only with the Touch (not with duet or DVD player) so why drop the sample rate every time you zap from a 48kHz song to another 48kHz song? Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539708 Wrote: yes, I have tried both coax and optical, but problem is the same. You could argue that my dac is not muting properly, but the problem is only with the Touch (not with duet or DVD player) so why drop the sample rate every time you zap from a 48kHz song to another 48kHz song? Paal Your DAC is a semi-pro dac not a domestic one so I'm not surprised it has no muting circuit. However, as you say the problem is only with the Touch. This means that the Touch may not be correctly outputting digital silence between tracks... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Phil Leigh;539704 Wrote: Sorry - my ADSL gateway went down and my posting got messed up... Nicoleif - sounds like your DAC needed a muting relay fitted - that should have been there from day 1! Paalj - you have a different problem I think. What type of server are you using? The modification eliminated the problem. It properly included a muting relay. Now it handles non standard signal perfectly. -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Phil Leigh;539704 Wrote: Sorry - my ADSL gateway went down and my posting got messed up... Nicoleif - sounds like your DAC needed a muting relay fitted - that should have been there from day 1! Paalj - you have a different problem I think. What type of server are you using? The modification eliminated the problem. It properly included a muting relay. Now it handles non standard signal perfectly. -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539708 Wrote: yes, I have tried both coax and optical, but problem is the same. You could argue that my dac is not muting properly, but the problem is only with the Touch (not with duet or DVD player) so why drop the sample rate every time you zap from a 48kHz song to another 48kHz song? Paal If I am not mistaken the Duet doesn't output high rez signal! Don't know with your dvd. -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
nicoleif;539717 Wrote: If I am not mistaken the Duet doesn't output high rez signal! Don't know with your dvd. Paal is using 24/48 - they play OK on everything... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Phil Leigh;539719 Wrote: Paal is using 24/48 - they play OK on everything... My problem occured only with 96KHz. -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Paalj - you have a different problem I think. What type of server are you using?[/QUOTE Wrote: I am using a windows server and 7.6.0-30685 at the moment, but I started with 7.5.0. Problem is the same with 7.5.0. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Zapping? Tapping? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hello and Welcome to the Forum. What is zapping through music? If I were Zapping music my DAC would probably be having a problem also. Also how about some more details that might help answer your problem. What file type are you using? What is the specifics on the files that are problems, 24/48, 24/96, 16/44.1? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
I presume he means FFWD = zap? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hi, sorry, zapping means changing track (FFWD) from a 24/48kHz flac to another 24/48kHz flac. All files other than 44.1 kHz is a problem. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
Hi, sorry, zapping means changing track (FFWD) from a 24/48kHz flac to another 24/48kHz flac. All files other than 44.1 kHz is a problem. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
paalj;539524 Wrote: Hi, sorry, zapping means changing track Is this a common term somewhere? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out - noise when zapping
In french (we say zapper) it would have the exact same meaning -- flyingdoherty flyingdoherty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77822 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
