Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-10-15 Thread Simon_rb

Hi,

Still struggling to get this to work even on LMS. I installed the plugin
and downloaded the required IR conf files from LIRC and renamed them to
.conf. I opened the settings page and pointed it to the files. I select
a command and when I hit test the IR emitter flashed red however my amp
doesn't turn on. I have tried various different conf files for different
equipment and none work. I have also set the fixed volume to 100% and
still doesn't work.

Is there a log it can post here? Could I make my own conf file using
LIRC as saw the touch doesn't support RAW however should using LIRC be
ok? 

Thank you in advance.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-10-14 Thread Simon_rb

garym wrote: 
 generally one can't install plugins on TinySC.  I have seen posts where
 folks talk about ssh'ing in to the TOUCH to do some sort of hacking to
 add *some* plugins.

I did read that, I think it is to do with if the plugin calls the webUI
API or not. If it doesn't need it then it should work. I guess I
should get it working on my LMS first. 

Thank you for your reply :-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-10-13 Thread Simon_rb

Hi all,

I notice my previous post hasn't been answered so maybe this plugin
isn't supported anymore. 

I decided to buy a touch and as of yet I haven't managed to get the
plugin to work however for me it would be more useful working with
TinySC. So my question is, is it possible to install this plugin on
TinySC so my server doesn't have to be on when i turn touch on it will
turn my amps on. 

Cheers



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-10-13 Thread garym

Simon_rb wrote: 
 Hi all,
 
 I notice my previous post hasn't been answered so maybe this plugin
 isn't supported anymore. 
 
 I decided to buy a touch and as of yet I haven't managed to get the
 plugin to work however for me it would be more useful working with
 TinySC. So my question is, is it possible to install this plugin on
 TinySC so my server doesn't have to be on when i turn touch on it will
 turn my amps on. 
 
 Cheers

generally one can't install plugins on TinySC.  I have seen posts where
folks talk about ssh'ing in to the TOUCH to do some sort of hacking to
add *some* plugins.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-08-13 Thread Simon_rb

Hi All,

im thinking of buying a touch however the selling point for me would be
if i can get the blaster working. I have two sony amps that need to be
turned on and then changed to the correct input. (they use different
codes so no conflict there). would i have to find both remote codes and
combine them into one file? then using the web interface i'd be able
setup the touch to turn on both amps and put them in the correct inputs
when it comes out of standby?

Have i got this correct?

Thank you for reading and i look forward to your reply.

Simon



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-08-10 Thread giantpopples

Dibou wrote: 
 From Bugzilla – http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997
   
  On lirc.org you also can find how to use a Linux or Windows machine
 (and some
  simple hardware) to record proper .conf file in NEC or RC5 format.
 
 I tried to proceed as proposed. But unfortunately my remote control was
 not referenced in LIRC database. So I installed WinLIRC in order to
 record its codes. 
 
 I had to build an IR receiver (I welt components by myself!). I even had
 to find a serial DB9 bracket, because it was not provided with my
 motherboard. I did all that and it ran! I did it! I managed to record my
 RC codes with the IRRecord tool provided in the WinLIRC package.
 
 Then I got a .conf file that I tried with my old SB3 (replacing the old
 RAW one I recorded a long time ago with the IRBlast learning tool) and
 it ran.
 
 Then I tried it on my SBTouch and... and... it does not run... not at
 all. Arghhh... So much work for such a poor result!
 
 There might be a link with the mandatory RC5 / NEC format. This line is
 the .conf file generated by the LIRC IRRecord tool: 
 flags SPACE_ENC|CONST_LENGTH
 
 I found templates here http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/generic/ 
 
 For RC5 conf files, it seems that it should be flags RC5|CONST_LENGTH.
 But in NEC conf files, the line is the same as mine.
 
 The IR emitter is the one I used with my SB3, it was running perfectly
 (an IR emitting LED + a resistance / a 3.5 jack at the other end)
 
 
 Any idea?

Hello !
I think I have the same issue as Dibou, I used to use the IR Blaster
plugin with a Squeezebox Touch and a Denon receiver (RC5) and it worked
really well.
I have changed my receiver to a Emotiva UMC-1, since the LIRC site
didn't have the conf, I generate one from WinLIRC, I tested it with the
SqueezeIR plugin for the Controller and it works fine.

It seems to be using the NEC protocol but not in the same way as the
template available on lirc site, here how it begins:

name  UMC-1
bits   16
flags SPACE_ENC
eps30
aeps  100

header   9015  4403
one   596  1643
zero  596   519
ptrail576
repeat   8967  2212
pre_data_bits   16
pre_data   0x4FA
gap  41182
repeat_gap   600445
toggle_bit_mask 0x0

It is recognized by the plugin, but it doesn't seem to blast anything,
is there an error in the conf file, or this type of remote does not use
NEC protocol and thus is incompatibe with the plugin ?

Thank you for your help !

Regards



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-03-27 Thread BenH73

Just wanted to say what an awesome plugin this is. I use an old
Panasonic mini system and was able to easily (after finding a nice
tutorial) use irrecord on my linux box with with ms mce receiver to
record a lirc conf file with the keys I needed.

I have always enjoyed using various android and webos remotes to
control the touch, but found having to turn the stereo on/off tedious.
Not anymore.

Ben


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-03-27 Thread Martin N
Hello,

At 12:36 27/03/2012, BenH73 wrote:

Just wanted to say what an awesome plugin this is. I use an old
Panasonic mini system and was able to easily (after finding a nice
tutorial) use irrecord on my linux box with with ms mce receiver to
record a lirc conf file with the keys I needed.

I have always enjoyed using various android and webos remotes to
control the touch, but found having to turn the stereo on/off tedious.
Not anymore.

What does the Panasonic remote do that the WebOS squeeze control app
doesn't in relation to power off? (angrygoats)

I have it installed on a old palm pre1 and find it quite easy to use.

Martin N

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-03-27 Thread BenH73

trott3r;697783 Wrote: 
 Hello,
 
 What does the Panasonic remote do that the WebOS squeeze control app
 doesn't in relation to power off? (angrygoats)
 
 I have it installed on a old palm pre1 and find it quite easy to use.
 
 Martin N
 
 Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of 
 MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups

The squeeze control app turns the touch off perfectly, but it can't
turn off my stereo, or change it from the CD input to the Digital 1
input.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-03-27 Thread Martin N
Lo,

At 02:31 28/03/2012, you wrote:

trott3r;697783 Wrote:
  Hello,
 
  What does the Panasonic remote do that the WebOS squeeze control app
  doesn't in relation to power off? (angrygoats)
 
  I have it installed on a old palm pre1 and find it quite easy to use.
 
  Martin N
 
  Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of
  MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups

The squeeze control app turns the touch off perfectly, but it can't
turn off my stereo, or change it from the CD input to the Digital 1
input.


Ah right i see, got ya.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-01-29 Thread shaboyi

aubuti;678864 Wrote: 
 Wow Felix, that's great. I can't wait to check it out. Thanks!

As anyone been able to get the updated IRBlaster plugin to work with
the Touch? Before I try to create a custom .conf file I would love to
hear of others experience with the plugin. 

i also have a very basic question - I installed the blaster on LMS 7.7
on Vortexobx 2.0 and I am not able to get the IRBlaster setting page 
to see any conf file except the one it comes with (slim) and ones i
creae with the IR Learner. If i copy one to the IRBlaster directory
(for example, one from LIRC) I can not get the IRBlaster plugin
settings page to recognize it - it just does now show. 

I have set all permissions/ownership/groups the same as the existing
conf files. I have even tried things such as copying slim.conf to
slim1.conf and even then slim1.conf does not show up  - (of course i
reload) and have restarted LMS, etc. etc.  I know I am in the right
directory 
(/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/IRBlaster)
because if I delete slim.conf it disappears from the settings page. 

it's probably something simple, but surely i'm missing it!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-01-14 Thread Dibou

From Bugzilla #8211; http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997

 On lirc.org you also can find how to use a Linux or Windows machine
(and some
 simple hardware) to record proper .conf file in NEC or RC5 format.

I tried to proceed as proposed. But unfortunately my remote control was
not referenced in LIRC database. So I installed WinLIRC in order to
record its codes. 

I had to build an IR receiver (I welt components by myself!). I even
had to find a serial DB9 bracket, because it was not provided with my
motherboard. I did all that and it ran! I did it! I managed to record
my RC codes with the IRRecord tool provided in the WinLIRC package.

Then I got a .conf file that I tried with my old SB3 (replacing the old
RAW one I recorded a long time ago with the IRBlast learning tool)

Then I tried it on my SBTouch and... and... it does not run... not at
all. Arghhh... So much work for such a poor result!

There might be a link with the mandatory RC5 / NEC format. This line is
the .conf file generated by the LIRC IRRecord tool: 
flags SPACE_ENC|CONST_LENGTH

I found templates here http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/generic/ 

For RC5 conf files, it seems that it should be flags
RC5|CONST_LENGTH. But in NEC conf files, the line is the same as mine.

The IR emitter is the one I used with my SB3, it was running perfectly
(an IR emitting LED + a resistance / a 3.5 jack at the other end)


Any idea?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2012-01-06 Thread Soulkeeper

Time for me to get acquainted with IR Blaster. Will a 'Microsoft MCE IR
Emitter Wire'
(https://www.google.com/search?q=Microsoft+MCE+IR+Emitter+Wire) work
with the Touch?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-12-28 Thread JohnSwenson

gonk;679855 Wrote: 
 Well, I have disassembled my Touch to make some modifications. On the
 front panel there are 4 optical devices, except for the display of
 course:
 
 - 1 Ambient light sensor
 - 1 IR Reciever
 - 2 IR LED transmitters
 
 I was suprised to find the two LED:s there. I have made a search and
 found a reference somewhere that verified the LEDs, but there were no
 software available to drive these. I expect that it cannot be so
 difficult to modify the code in the plugin to send out the IR codes on
 these as well as on the headphone output...
 
 I have pictures that show the diodes, but I fail to upload them by some
 reason.

Aha, yes those are part of the proximity sensors, they are both a
transmitter and receiver designed to detect when a hand got near the
screen so the software could show buttons and such when something
approached. It never worked very well so the programmers turned that
feature off a long time ago. 

In order to use these as an IR blaster would take some significant work
in the low level drivers and higher level interfaces on the Touch. Its
not something that could be done in the pluggin. The pluggin can only
work with what the firmware in the Touch allows to be accessable over
the server to player interface. I can guarantee those devices are NOT
in that list. 

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-12-27 Thread gonk

Well, I have disassembled my Touch to make some modifications. On the
front panel there are 4 optical devices, except for the display of
course:

- 1 Ambient light sensor
- 1 IR Reciever
- 2 IR LED transmitters

I was suprised to find the two LED:s there. I have made a search and
found a reference somewhere that verified the LEDs, but there were no
software available to drive these. I expect that it cannot be so
difficult to modify the code in the plugin to send out the IR codes on
these as well as on the headphone output...

I have pictures that show the diodes, but I fail to upload them by some
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-12-26 Thread gonk

I've been looking forward to this! Great! 

Will this also use the two internal IR-diodes that are placed on the
Touch front panel, facing forward?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-12-26 Thread JohnSwenson

gonk;679498 Wrote: 
 I've been looking forward to this! Great! 
 
 Will this also use the two internal IR-diodes that are placed on the
 Touch front panel, facing forward?

Those are receivers not transmitters. The transmitter works the same
way as other SB products, you have to plug in the IR blaster hardware
into the headphone jack.

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-12-22 Thread fcm4711

Hi guys

I finally found time to update the IR Blaster plugin to support SB
Touch (NEC and RC5).

If you already have the IR Blaster plugin installed LMS should alert
you about the update to version 6.2. In case it's not happening
automatically you might need to first uninstall the old version (be
sure to save your *.conf files first), then add the following plugin
repository:

http://www.gwendesign.com/sc/repo/repo.xml

and then enable the new version of IR Blaster.

Note: Please be aware that SB Touch cannot support RAW IR format as it
is not sending RAW IR codes to the server like SB2/3 and TR do. The
implication as stated before is that the following functionality isn't
available on SB Touch:

- IR learning
- IR repeating
- Use of previously learned IR commands (as they are stored in RAW
format too)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-12-22 Thread aubuti

fcm4711;678838 Wrote: 
 I finally found time to update the IR Blaster plugin to support SB Touch
 (NEC and RC5).
Wow Felix, that's great. I can't wait to check it out. Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-02-11 Thread aubuti

It will remain so. IR blasting RAW format on the Touch is clearly
labeled 'not possible'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997) (see Felix's
comment #7).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-02-11 Thread mbg

Just wondering -- does IR Blaster work in any capacity at all on the
Touch, even if with reduced functionality?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-02-11 Thread aubuti

At present I don't think so, but they're working on it (see
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-02-10 Thread ericj

I finally pulled the trigger on a SB touch, but much to my chagrin,
found out that it does not support RAW codes for IRBlaster.I assume
that this is still the case, and that it will remain so
Sadly, the Touch will go back.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-06-29 Thread aubuti

Don't consider me an authoritative source on this, but my reading of the
comments for 'bug 12997'
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997) is that the SB
Radio does not have the hardware required for IR blasting.
Specifically, the first two comments in the bug (note that Baby is
the nickname for Radio (as in Baby Boom), and that Caleb was one of the
lead developers for the Radio).


Code:


  -Felix:- Caleb: I know hardware supports IR Blasting on Fab4. How about Baby?
  
  -Caleb:- Nope.  Baby-no-blasty.
  



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-06-29 Thread mctigercom

Yeah, I can see your point. I currently use an SB3 to IR Blast to a DVD
and Tivo hidden in a cabinet. I also use the IR Blaster to run an alarm
sequence in the morning. We wake up to Pandora and then after 10 min,
the SB3 shuts down and turns on the TV that's already tuned to CNN. The
alarms are stored in a db and fired off using perl scripts that run the
commands from the CLI. Very neat, tidy and reliable for the couple of
years that we've been doing it.

Anyhow, no worries. I'll keep using the SB3 for now and use the Radio
around the house.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-06-29 Thread luny

any progress on the developments to enable IR Blaster for the Touch?

In fact, I'm waiting for this to move my SB3 to another room.
I now have a synched setup where the SB3 and Touch are standing next to
eachother, IR Blaster being the only reason for the SB3 to be there to
control my amp.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-04-28 Thread luny

Well, I already have my Touch, but I'm veryy much interested in the IR
Blaster plugin for the Touch.
Can anybody tell me about the status??


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-04-28 Thread fcm4711

Hi there

At the moment (as of 7.5.0) IR Blaster does not work on SB Touch.

IR Blaster plugin needs to be adapted to work with SB Touch. Please see
here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997

and the firmware running on SB Touch needs to be modified too, see
here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15826

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-04-28 Thread fcm4711

Hi there

At the moment (as of 7.5.0) IR Blaster does not work on SB Touch.

IR Blaster plugin needs to be adapted to work with SB Touch. Please see
here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997

and the firmware running on SB Touch needs to be modified too, see
here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15826

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-04-28 Thread bernt

Voted for the bugs. IR-blaster on Touch is a must (for me).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-08 Thread fcm4711

Hi there

The IR-Blaster solution I am referring to is using a similar mechanism
/ server plugin as we have for SB Classic. I.e. Squeezebox Server is
sending IR commands via SlimProto to SB Touch where the commands are
sent out via IR emitter attached to the headphone out. This solution
cannot easily be modified because IR reception and IR blasting are
controlled by a pre-programmed microcontroller in SB Touch (source
closed).

But since SB Touch is running Linux and has an USB port I could imagine
a solution using LIRC (www.lirc.org) and an USB IR dongle (i.e.
www.iguanaworks.net).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-08 Thread DaveWr

Sorry to be a little dense, does that pre-programmed controller mean
Logitech pre-programmed, or external party.

Again, is the Touch ever going to support IR Blaster functionality for
RC5 coded devices or not?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-08 Thread fcm4711

Hi Dave

No problem. The microcontroller is Logitech pre-programmed and can be
updated in the field in case we need to fix bugs.

Are you asking about _receiving_ RC5? I don't think that will be
implemented any time soon as it is not needed for basic IR blasting.
Even without this you can still send RC5 coded commands to RC5 devices.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-08 Thread DaveWr

I was looking at the case for volume control of an RC5 command
amplifier, being transcoded from standard SB remotes or iPeng

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-08 Thread linvale

Thanks Felix. The information is very helpfuil and of course,
disappointing. The IR learning and ability to repeat RAW codes is so
useful and your plug in works so well - maybe I should be shopping for
Classics, they may well become even more desirable on this basis alone.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-06 Thread fcm4711

Hi there

You'll be interested in this bug then I guess:
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12997

Please read my comment #7 about some limitations regarding formats and
capabilities IR Blaster will have on SB Touch compared to what a SB
Classic or Transporter can do.

So if you need any of the features that SB Touch IR-Blaster will not
support I suggest you hold on to your trusty SB Classic or Transporter.

IR-Blaster is currently on the list of features for 7.5 (SB Touch
release) but as of today I cannot say if it will be ready for the first
release.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-06 Thread DaveWr

Hi Felix,

Will the RAW and RC5 receiving ever get fixed, or is it inherently
impossible?

Bit of a shame as a lot of European HiFi is RC5 codes.

Dave


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[SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-05 Thread linvale

Does anyone know if the IR blaster plugin will work with a touch? This
can nicely control volume and on off for equipment and I have been
working a plugin that works with it to control multiple functions from
my SB3 once the codes are learned, before working on making this usable
and adding a LUA interface, expanding it to have macros etc. I'd like to
know if this is worthwhile or will the geek port be lost in the
future.

Thanks


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-05 Thread JohnSwenson

The Touch does have IR blaster hardware. But its accessed differently
than the SB3 so the existing IR blaster plugin will not work. Its going
to take a new piece of software written for the Touch. To date this has
not been written. At one point it was going to be part of the released
software with the Touch, but with the current priorities I don't think
its going to be ready at release. 

My guess is that once it gets released there will be enough interest
that somebody will write it fairly quickly. It will happen, but you
might have to wait little while for it. 

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2010-02-05 Thread linvale

Thanks for the prompt reply. I guess we will need to wait, but I gained
a fairly good insight into Felix's really excellent work on the original
plugin - and have gotten to rely on it - such that all my other remotes
are packed away. I might just continue with the prototype and see if
others find it useful and then see what needs to be done for the touch.


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