Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
Goodsounds;545274 Wrote: > It probably has nothing to do with the conversion rate. > > Compare prices (of non-food goods) in a small country to a larger > country, in a small town compared to a large city. The larger the > market, the more competition between sellers, availability of market > information and alternate suppliers, etc. Internet sites have changed > the landscape a bit, but not so much as to change the longstanding > differences between relatively larger markets versus relatively smaller > ones. That's cool, but how come I can't order that product from the vendor's US site, only from the vendor's Canadian site? -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
crazyj;545179 Wrote: > Perhaps, but until marketers realize that the US and Canada are similar > enough marketplaces to drop the price skewing, we'll continue to find > ways around their practices. Which unfortunately, makes Canada look > like a smaller market and receives less attention from marketers. It's > a viscious cycle... True. Recently, bestbuy.com (US) were selling an external 1 terabyte HD for $79.99, while bestbuy.ca (Canada) had the exact same HD for $129.00. And the US and the Canadian dollar are pretty much on par these days (fifty bucks more in Canada?!? What kind of a fishy conversion rate is that?) So who's crazy here? -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
ds2021;545582 Wrote: > Your argument is excellent, except that your suggestions do nothing to > explain why some companies can do it while Logitech cannot. There are > prominent companies around the world that have proven that it can be > done both intelligently (i.e., choice of quick and cost effective > delivery methods, proper preparation of relevant paperwork) and > efficiently (i.e., quick packaging, shipment, and delivery). In the > light of such, what are your suggestions based on? A hunch? Maybe Logitech (and many other companies, including Sonos) can deliver in Canada at the same price but instead _choose_ to charge a higher price. Why? A perfectly good and common explanation is that Logitech thinks Canadians are less price sensitive than their neighbors to the south when it comes to SBs. If they're right about that, then the sales they lose by pricing SBs higher are more than compensated for by the extra revenue gained on the units they do sell. In the US it's the opposite -- they profit more from selling higher volume at a lower margin. It's called demand elasticity, and it's not a hunch. Maybe for the other unnamed products you refer to the demand curves in the US and Canada look the same. If that's the case, _and_if_ the company can supply both markets at comparable costs, then it makes sense for the company to sell at similar prices on both sides of the border. Like Goodsounds says, if you're not happy with Canadian pricing, vote with your wallet and look elsewhere. That will show Logitech that Canadians are price sensitive. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
Your argument is excellent, except that your suggestions do nothing to explain why some companies can do it while Logitech cannot. There are prominent companies around the world that have proven that it can be done both intelligently and efficiently. In the light of such, what are your suggestions based on? -- ds2021 All your bass are belong to us. ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
ds2021;545332 Wrote: > We see more and more intelligent companies selling efficiently to Canada > at prices that make sense given exchange rates. If Logitech is not one > such company, I - for one - am happy to forego any further purchases > from them. I'd suggest that in addition to having little to do with exchange rates, it also has little to do with either intelligent practices (as you would define them) or efficiency. Since forever, my UK colleagues and friends have complained that US and UK prices for consumer goods of all sorts are the same in numerical terms. Something that cost £500 could be purchased in the US for $500. This was true even when £1 = $1.75 or more. I've heard the same thing said of Euro zone prices compared to US prices. The difference is far too great for VAT to be the reason. In my experience, this is no more true with Logitech's products than for most other consumer products. Squeezebox products seem to be very successful in Europe and elsewhere despite prices consistently higher than in the US. If you're unhappy with the Canadian marketplace, then you should do as you suggest, buy other products. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
magiccarpetride;545301 Wrote: > That's cool, but how come I can't order that product from the vendor's > US site, only from the vendor's Canadian site? Because that would make the people who work in the vendor's Canadian operations very unhappy. If they get unhappy enough then they entirely drop the SB line (or any similar product where the price is undercut). Then who's going to handle the bilingual French/English retail boxes? Dividing up sales "territories" is as old as the hills, whether it involves international boundaries or not. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
Perhaps, but until marketers realize that the US and Canada are similar enough marketplaces to drop the price skewing, we'll continue to find ways around their practices. Which unfortunately, makes Canada look like a smaller market and receives less attention from marketers. It's a viscious cycle... -- crazyj crazyj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
We see more and more intelligent companies selling efficiently to Canada at prices that make sense given exchange rates. If Logitech is not one such company, I - for one - am happy to forego any further purchases from them. -- ds2021 All your bass are belong to us. ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
magiccarpetride;545215 Wrote: > True. Recently, bestbuy.com (US) were selling an external 1 terabyte HD > for $79.99, while bestbuy.ca (Canada) had the exact same HD for > $129.00. And the US and the Canadian dollar are pretty much on par > these days (fifty bucks more in Canada?!? What kind of a fishy > conversion rate is that?) It probably has nothing to do with the conversion rate. Compare prices (of non-food goods) in a small country to a larger country, in a small town compared to a large city. The larger the market, the more competition between sellers, availability of market information and alternate suppliers, etc. Internet sites have changed the landscape a bit, but not so much as to change the longstanding differences between relatively larger markets versus relatively smaller ones. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
magiccarpetride;545215 Wrote: > True. Recently, bestbuy.com (US) were selling an external 1 terabyte HD > for $79.99, while bestbuy.ca (Canada) had the exact same HD for > $129.00. And the US and the Canadian dollar are pretty much on par > these days (fifty bucks more in Canada?!? What kind of a fishy > conversion rate is that?) > > So who's crazy here? That may have more to do with what products get chosen as loss leaders in their respective markets or what inventory levels look like at the warehouse that services a particular region, just to throw two variables into the mix. There are always factors involved that no one outside the company can know. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
crazyj;544326 Wrote: > Or you could buy one from Ebay and get it drop shipped across the > border. I'm not about to pay Logitech $380. I got mine on ebay for > $280, and about $20 shipping. They can take their divided market > pricing and shove it. Isn't this a common practice for most companies? Why bash Logitech? -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
Or you could buy one from Ebay and get it drop shipped across the border. I'm not about to pay Logitech $380. I got mine on ebay for $280, and about $20 shipping. They can take their divided market pricing and shove it. -- crazyj crazyj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
Or you could buy one from Ebay and get it drop shipped across the border. I'm not about to pay Logitech $380. I got mine on ebay for $280, and about $20 shipping. They can take their divided market pricing and shove it. -- crazyj crazyj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
So, with this in mind, how about a SB equipment swap?? Radio batteries are not available in Canada so maybe a Canadian will swap a Touch for a Radio battery with me? Tell you what, I'll throw in free shipping as well! -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
funkstar;544111 Wrote: > So it's not just Logitech that has messed up international sites :) > > http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?k=squeezebox&_nks=true&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&p=1&x=0&y=0 > > Duet, Controller, Receiver and Boom are available from Dell UK. But no Touch. Canadians Only for Dell it seems... -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
toby10;544049 Wrote: > Interesting... > > Dell Canada sells all SB players, including Touch, except Boom > > Dell US sells all SB players, including Boom, except Touch So it's not just Logitech that has messed up international sites :) http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/category.aspx?k=squeezebox&_nks=true&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs&p=1&x=0&y=0 Duet, Controller, Receiver and Boom are available from Dell UK. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
Interesting... Dell Canada sells all SB players, including Touch, except Boom Dell US sells all SB players, including Boom, except Touch -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
I ordered one from Dell Canada Tuesday and I received it Wednesday and WOW!!! Simply better than a SB3. Click on this following URL: http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=gen&c=ca&l=en&cs=&k=squeezebox&cat=all&x=0&y=0 Enjoy! -- mario21 mario21's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Is Touch even available in Canada?
All I get when I go to order it is the "click here to be notified" option. How can one purchase Touch in Canada? -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78389 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
