Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
First of all, thanks to all of you for the tips. Final thoughts based on recent experiments: 1. Turning the volume up on the Touch was incredibly important. This seemed to have a huge impact on sound quality. 2. Using dbPoweramp to rip flac files was a bit more complicated than iTunes for aiff files. However, dbPoweramp was much faster, more flexible, more informative, and more comforting. 3. Most importantly, the sound quality of flac seemed a little better than aiff. Both were only a little better than a 192kps wma file. I think the Touch improves a 192 kps wma file. I did use much newer equipment for additional testing and the sound differences were easier to notice. I firmly believe the Touch is a stunning product. The sound quality is very good overall, but is great considering the price. The ability to combine Internet Radio with easy playback of stored files in combination with the ease and fun render this one of the great bargains in audio. P.S. I know my hearing isn't as good as before, but this is the first product comparison in years that has been hard to judge. I couldn't try my DAC due to cable issues. My sample size (and time) was not huge, but I rarely need that much time to spot sound quality. Using the Touch in a secondary room close to the screen makes the product even better. The remote is good, but the screen is fun. -- mrfinsky327 Steve F. Main System: SOTA Nova TT, Clearaudio Aurum Beta, CJ PV-12 Preamp, Cambridge CD4SE, Musical Fidelity V-DAC, McCormack DNA-1 Amp, Paradigm Reference Studio 100 V.3 Speakers, Kimber AQ and TARA Cables Second System: Rega Planar 3 TT, AT 95 Cartridge, Superphon Preamp, B&K ST-140 Amp, Linn Index Speakers, Squeezebox Touch Media Player, Aural Symphonics Chord and AQ Cables mrfinsky327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Soulkeeper;666413 Wrote: > But seriously, the average pop production sounds like sewage to me, so I > don't care whether it's in its purest form, or slightly processed. The > war on sound (aka loudness war) has really ruined a lot of otherwise > good music. > How true to the newer recordings. Rgds -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
aubuti;666030 Wrote: > Didn't mean to take an unfair shot about the hearing, but it happens. > Especially the high frequencies. There are lots of easy tests out there > to see where your hearing drops off. If you still have all your aural > acuity, more power to you. I'm a few years younger than you, and know > that I've lost a lot of the high end. At least I still don't need > specs. Bummer!. I work at an airport (24Yrs) and wear specs -- RussellMrgn Squeezebox: Classic/SB3, Duet, Boom x3, Radio and Touch Server: Noah Blk Mini-ITX Case, Intel D945GCLF2 Atom 330 Motherboard, 2 GB 667 RAM, X2 Western Digital Scorpio Blue 500GB 2.5" H/D's Internal. Ext Backup: DAS 200 with X2 Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB H/D's Raided. OS: WHS. Ripper: dBpoweramp. (Installed on WHS & Win7) Running 24/7 Looks good and works well! RussellMrgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Soulkeeper;666413 Wrote: > I can't tell the difference between a pig with lipstick, and a regular > pig, either. ;) > > But seriously, the average pop production sounds like sewage to me, so > I don't care whether it's in its purest form, or slightly processed. > The war on sound (aka loudness war) has really ruined a lot of > otherwise good music. > > But what do I know, maybe lossy compression even helps reduce the > effects of all that clipping in one way or another? I haven't > considered that possibility before, but is it ... well, possible? Can't disagree, but to clarify by pop I meant anything non classical or some jazz. Most of my 1980s and 1990s CDs don't suffer as much from loudness war problems (at least based on the replay gain values). My "pop" is rock, blues, and country, with some frank Sinatra thrown in for good measure.;-) -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
garym;666383 Wrote: > On normal pop tracks, I can't differentiate between 192 mp3 (lame V2) > and FLAC files in a blind ABX test. I can't tell the difference between a pig with lipstick, and a regular pig, either. ;) But seriously, the average pop track sounds like manure anyway, so whether it's in its purest form, or slightly processed, matters little to me. But what do I know, maybe lossy compression even helps reduce the effects of all that clipping in one way or another? I haven't considered that possibility before, but is it ... well, possible? -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch (sans caps) + duet + boom + radio (portable) / dd-wrt @ linksys wrt54g/160n/320n/e2k/e3k + homeplugs &c. / sbs 7.6.x on w7(x86) w/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
@ OP: Your original question (*Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?*) was quite intriguing. In view of the comments it elicited and of my own experience with the Touch in three very different systems, I would suggest that your sound quality might be more limited by: 1. equipment to which the Touch is connected, 2. interconnects and speaker cables in the system, 3. speaker placement and room interaction, 4. sound quality of the recordings, music streams, etc, 5. and, yes, acuity of your hearing (full disclosure, for those 56-yr. old youngsters in the forum: I'll turn 80 next week and, according to my audiologist, my own hearing is much better than most the rest of my anatomy, but I think you would have to experience a rather large decrease in high- and low-frequency hearing before it would impact your perception of a system's sound quality to the extent suggested by your post). May you enjoy many, many years of listening to great music through your Touch! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge -> Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch (digital out) -> Cambridge Azur 840C DAC -> Adcom GFP-750 preamp -> Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp -> Martin Logan SL3 speakers DSpeaker Antimode 8033 equalizer -> REL T1 Subwoofer BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out) -> Little Dot Mk III amp -> AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch -> Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
adamdea;666379 Wrote: > If the only evidence that OPs hearing and / or equipment is knackered is > that he can't hear the difference between AIFF and WMA 192kbps then it > might just be that perceptual codec designers know a lot more than > audiophiles. > -192 is a little on the low side, but I think BBC 3 hd and spotify > sound damn good. On normal pop tracks, I can't differentiate between 192 mp3 (lame V2) and FLAC files in a blind ABX test. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
If the only evidence that OPs hearing and / or equipment is knackered is that he can't hear the difference between AIFF and WMA 192kbps then it might just be that perceptual codec designers know a lot more than audiophiles. -192 is a little on the low side, but I think BBC 3 hd and spotify sound damn good. -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
SuperQ;666201 Wrote: > I personally stay away from iTunes for music. I use itunes (and a mirror mp3 library) for loading up my iphones/ipods. But I don't use it for ripping, tagging, or organizing my files. Nothing I have against itunes, just not nearly as good as other tools that are easily available. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
+1 to the other comments about iTunes for ripping. - ALAC is a good choice if you're set on using iTunes. - Make sure to enable sound check to add gain tags. Not needed for single album listening, but essential for random playback. - Make sure to enable secure ripping in order to avoid bad rips. I personally stay away from iTunes for music. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
I second the recommendation for ripping with dbpoweramp. I have used EAC and dbpoweramp. If you have a PC with a multicore processor, dbpoweramp will be much faster than EAC. dbpoweramp also uses multiple sources for metadata and will transcode your flac (or apple lossless) rips to mp3 for your portable player. Well worth the money. -- jcowling jcowling's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
mrfinsky327;666028 Wrote: > Again, thanks to all repliers. I am a high-end veteran but new at > computer audio. I enjoy the wide access but am frustrated by the > complications. > > I am curious why the replies recommend flac as a file format. My > understanding was that aiff was totally uncompressed and allowed access > to the iTunes meta data for any CD's imported. Also, I thought that flac > files couldn't be created by iTunes, or by any other free program. > > I was afraid that your answers would include mention of the degradation > of the physical properties of my equipment. Most pieces have seen only > minor usage in the last 10-15 years. I suppose time will age caps and > drivers as much as use. The concept that this stuff won't last forever > is both scary and irritating. I can't imagine paying $50k+ for a system > and seeing it age. > > By the way, my hearing is still fine (I think and hope). I am a mere 56 > years old, and have been zealously protecting my ears for years. In general, itunes is NOT a secure ripping program so you may not be getting bitperfect rips. For windows users, the two most recommended secure rippers are EAC and dbpoweramp. EAC is free. And both also can use ACCURATERIP databases to provide even more confirmation that your rips are secure (by comparing to the rips of other users automatically). dbpa is not free, but at the cost of 2 CDs is a bargain. And I also recommend FLAC as a lossless format. But EAC and dbpa can use Apple Lossless, etc. as well. Bottom line, rip once, make sure it is bitperfect rip, your metadata (tags) are exactly what you want, and the album art is exactly what you want. Then in the future, you can easily convert these to any other format with no loss. And in my case, I create a mirror image of mp3 files for use on my portables (all with one or two mouse clicks!). re hearing and age. I'm 56 as well. And unless you are a freak of nature, it is almost physically impossible that your hearing (particularly high frequency) is anywhere close to what it was at age 20. Some of this loss is caused by damage (which you've tried to avoid), but most of this loss is caused by aging. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Didn't mean to take an unfair shot about the hearing, but it happens. Especially the high frequencies. There are lots of easy tests out there to see where your hearing drops off. If you still have all your aural acuity, more power to you. I'm a few years younger than you, and know that I've lost a lot of the high end. At least I still don't need specs. Re AIFF and FLAC, you're right that iTunes won't encode FLAC, but there are plenty of software packages that will, including freeware, shareware, and commercial products. Which ripper you use depends on your computer's OS -- there are a lot of packages for Windows and Linux that do FLAC, but only a couple for MacOS. Some are better rippers than iTunes because they support secure ripping via AccurateRip, which helps ensure you don't get errors in the rip. The compression in FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) -- and Apple Lossless, for that matter -- is just that: lossless. So it sounds just the same as an uncompressed lossless format such as AIFF and WAV. You didn't mention iTunes in your earlier posts. Any particular reason why you need iTunes compatibility? Many of us who do (eg, for iPods) keep a lossless copy (most often FLAC) of our library for home use, and a lossy copy (often MP3) for use with portables. But one size does not fit all, so you'll certainly want to tailor your setup to your needs. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Again, thanks to all repliers. I am a high-end veteran but new at computer audio. I enjoy the wide access but am frustrated by the complications. I am curious why the replies recommend flac as a file format. My understanding was that aiff was totally uncompressed and allowed access to the iTunes meta data for any CD's imported. Also, I thought that flac files couldn't be created by iTunes, or by any other free program. I was afraid that your answers would include mention of the degradation of the physical properties of my equipment. Most pieces have seen only minor usage in the last 10-15 years. I suppose time will age caps and drivers as much as use. The concept that this stuff won't last forever is both scary and irritating. I can't imagine paying $50k+ for a system and seeing it age. By the way, my hearing is still fine (I think and hope. I am a mere 56 years old, and have been zealously protecting my ears for years. -- mrfinsky327 mrfinsky327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
25 year old amps need their electrolytic caps replacing. Also the drive units in your speakers may be getting rather tired and their crossovers probably need rebuilding by now. None of these things last forever unfortunately. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
mrfinsky327;665990 Wrote: > I hesitate to open up the Touch to touch the caps. The sound is as good > as my expectations, but I am surprised at the minor difference between > .wma and .aiff. I am confident that the old system, plus the small room > size and non-optimal speaker placement, is limiting the sound. > > I do have to think ahead as an additional Touch may eventually be the > digital source in my main system (that has a Musical Fidelity V-DAC). I > suppose that creating .aiff files is safer than being disappointed by > .wma. After all, hard drives are cheap. Definitely go ahead and rip to a lossless format. Whatever the codec, you don't want to do it more than once. And, as you say, hard drives are cheap. Also, I'm sorry to say that it may not be only the old stereo components and sub-optimal room that are limiting how you perceive the sound. If you bought those components 20-25 years ago, then you're probably old enough to have diminished hearing, and quite possibly enough that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between lossless and 192kbps WMA even on a better system. It sucks, but that's life. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
I second the suggestion about ripping your CDs to lossless flac. If, as it appears, you have a main system in which you have an external DAC, why not temporarily connect your Touch to that DAC via the Touch digital output and play a few good rips through your main system, as a test? Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge -> Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch (digital out) -> Cambridge Azur 840C DAC -> Adcom GFP-750 preamp -> Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp -> Martin Logan SL3 speakers DSpeaker Antimode 8033 equalizer -> REL T1 Subwoofer BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out) -> Little Dot Mk III amp -> AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch -> Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Think lossless flac for your digitized music . -- jmschnur Joel jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Thank you for the replies and suggestions. I will definitely turn the volume on the Touch up to 100% and use the preamp for management of the overall level. I speculate that this will allow the Touch to fully blossom as a source. My Denon CD player is 15-20 years old. I am certain that the Touch's DAC would destroy any circuitry in the Denon. An additional DAC would be overkill as this system is just the old equipment that has been replaced. I hesitate to open up the Touch to touch the caps. The sound is as good as my expectations, but I am surprised at the minor difference between .wma and .aiff. I am confident that the old system, plus the small room size and non-optimal speaker placement, is limiting the sound. I do have to think ahead as an additional Touch may eventually be the digital source in my main system (that has a Musical Fidelity V-DAC). I suppose that creating .aiff files is safer than being disappointed by .wma. After all, hard drives are cheap. -- mrfinsky327 mrfinsky327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
Most likely you are having issues with volume level calibration. Many devices like the Denon CD player have very loud op-amps. They will sound better because they are louder. The Touch is a well designed neutral DAC without the usual over driving. It's almost impossible to calibrate this with your ears. The human ear is just not designed for calibrating SPL. http://ben.nerp.net/noise/pink-noise-30.flac Write that file as an audio track to play in your CD player. Then use an SPL meter or voltmeter across your speaker terminals. That should tell you how much output difference there is between the Denon and the Touch. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
mrfinsky327;665916 Wrote: > I am using only the analog outputs of the Touch (the only digital > component). > Although the Touch internal DAC is good, it's not as good as a well designed external DAC. That, plus Soundcheck's software mods (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742) have had a large sonic impact in my main system (see below). Of course YMMV, but you may try borrowing a good DAC and give it a listen. Best luck! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge -> Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch (digital out) -> Cambridge Azur 840C DAC -> Adcom GFP-750 preamp -> Music Reference RM-200 Mk II amp -> Martin Logan SL3 speakers DSpeaker Antimode 8033 equalizer -> REL T1 Subwoofer BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch (analog out) -> Little Dot Mk III amp -> AKG K701 headphones SECOND BEDROOM: Squeezebox Touch -> Grado SR125 headphones guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
You may want to read this link http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83412 It made a difference for me BUT if you are not comfortable opening up your Touch and doing some solder you may want to pass. There also are other posts in this forum talking about using a better power supply ( linear) So that may be a good read for you as well. -- bitstopjoe Joe Sica bitstopjoe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Is the Touch limiting my sound quality?
I recently installed a brand new Touch with SB Server 7.6.1. I have Kind of Blue in both .wma (192kps) and .aiff formats. I did a listening test and found it difficult to discern a significant difference in sound quality. My sound system is fairly old (most components are about 20-25 years service), but was a respectable but cheap high-end system at the time. I almost always can hear the difference in any component at any point in a system. The sound is pretty good, but not up to the level of a 25 year old Rega Planar 3 with a $50 AT cartridge or my old Denon CD player. I am using only the analog outputs of the Touch (the only digital component). Is the Touch making everything sound good but not great or is this the fault of the older equipment? I don't want to record 1000's of CD's as .aiff if the quality is no better than .wma. -- mrfinsky327 mrfinsky327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91196 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
