Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
I also hoped that I could use my NAS as storage :( But the other way around - the Touch acting as NAS - would be ok as wll :) But how does it work? How do I connect to the Touch and upload my music files? I have dowloaded the Squeezebox server to my computer but I do not know what to do next... PS. I am completly new to Squeezebox. Thanks, Andreas -- andreasa andreasa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37630 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
andreasa;536891 Wrote: I also hoped that I could use my NAS as storage :( But the other way around - the Touch acting as NAS - would be ok as wll :) But how does it work? How do I connect to the Touch and upload my music files? I have dowloaded the Squeezebox server to my computer but I do not know what to do next... PS. I am completly new to Squeezebox. Thanks, Andreas Touch works with samba like any NAS so if you activate it's sharing you can find it via the explorer like any other network share. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
andreasa;536891 Wrote: I also hoped that I could use my NAS as storage :( But the other way around - the Touch acting as NAS - would be ok as wll :) But how does it work? How do I connect to the Touch and upload my music files? I have dowloaded the Squeezebox server to my computer but I do not know what to do next... PS. I am completly new to Squeezebox. Thanks, Andreas Touch works with samba like any NAS so if you activate it's sharing you can find it via the explorer like any other network share. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
Mnyb;536904 Wrote: Touch works with samba like any NAS so if you activate it's sharing you can find it via the explorer like any other network share. Thanks, Mnyb. But what is samba? Sorry, but I am pretty new to this... -- andreasa andreasa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37630 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
andreasa;536967 Wrote: Thanks, Mnyb. But what is samba? Sorry, but I am pretty new to this... Don really know :) SMB = samba =cifs is a network protocol for sharing disks over networks, it not important windows knows what it is and the Touch do too. Samba translates between different OS's so you can use the NAS as any other drive. So you can browse your network neighborhood and find it. You don't have to install anything Most if not all NAS disk run linux in the background, but with the help of smb it can appear as drive on the PC . Most NAS boxes have a nice web-UI Touch don't so it is not filled with backup programs and whatnot's like a regular NAS . Hmm somebody who runs windows should have insight heres the wiki btw http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
andreasa;536891 Wrote: I have dowloaded the Squeezebox server to my computer but I do not know what to do next... Just to clarify, you don't need Squeezebox Server on your computer if you have a drive directly connected to the Touch. It's an alterative, not a precondition. -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
aubuti;536848 Wrote: What format is the drive? The Touch supports several (FAT32, NTFS, ext2, ext3). Or do you mean it's an ethernet interface and not USB? It's Journaled for a Mac. I was under the impression that it could be connected to my router via USB as a network drive and be able to work. Based on the size of my files etc., I am probably going to have to move a lot of things around and reformat. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
Mnyb;536982 Wrote: Don really know :) SMB = samba =cifs is a network protocol for sharing disks over networks, it not important windows knows what it is and the Touch do too. Samba translates between different OS's so you can use the NAS as any other drive. In the network menu, there is a setting where I can enter an IP address. Is this what you are referring to? I tried to enter my router's IP address and nothing happened. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
metalbob;537001 Wrote: In the network menu, there is a setting where I can enter an IP address. Is this what you are referring to? I tried to enter my router's IP address and nothing happened. No I have not tried. But settings advanced USB SD Storage Sharing would be a good place to start. If you have a disk conected it should the appear on your network. I'm not on win so I can not give specifics -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
metalbob;537009 Wrote: I have turned on Sharing and tried to turn on SBS on the Touch. Still not getting anything. It only prompts me for a attached USB drive or SD card and won't do anything at that point because there is nothing attached. No sharing wont work until you have an USB drive SD card, that's the whole piont ? There's no Hard drive on-board the Touch it has no internal space for music, that's what the USB drive is for. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
Mnyb;537010 Wrote: No sharing wont work until you have an USB drive SD card, that's the whole piont ? There's no Hard drive on-board the Touch it has no internal space for music, that's what the USB drive is for. I understand that. But I was lead to believe (or I misunderstood) a few months ago that the Touch would be able to use a Network-attached HD in lieu of using a computer. I am now moving some files around so I can reformat this HD and get it set up that way. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
metalbob;537035 Wrote: I understand that. But I was lead to believe (or I misunderstood) a few months ago that the Touch would be able to use a Network-attached HD in lieu of using a computer. I am now moving some files around so I can reformat this HD and get it set up that way. Ok, but I think thwers a good reason for that. You realize that a network disk is much slower than an USB drive. Then home user use NAS's boxes that are even slower than that, they barely reach 10mB. Yes the NAS can have 100/1000 Network adapter, but the speed reached when handling files is limited by CPU so these tiny NAS boxes are not close to that spec at all, but gigabit ethernet looks cool in the spec sheet. That leads to this: Scanning against a network drive is very slow even for a fast server. But Touch is not exactly Quad Core 4mHz machine ;) so it's a slow server. Slow+Slow+Slow is what ? really slooow. Logitech can not sell that kind of user experience, it would be horrible. A significant amount of customers would not understand ? it would be that stupid logitech box's fault. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
I'm with metalbob. I'd like to see this option even if people think the performance would be bad. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76997 -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
pounce;537060 Wrote: I'm with metalbob. I'd like to see this option even if people think the performance would be bad. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76997 I am using ALAC, so based on the technical explanation above, it *could* be slow. But I am hardwiring everything as my router, Network HD and Touch are in close proximity to each other. I don't think I'd have major problems. As it was, in some preliminary testing, I was unknowingly running SBS on my Macbook Pro, pulling tracks off my network HD and I guess back to the router, then to the Touch. I had no issues. I can't imagine it choking that bad, if at all, if someone were to use MP3s instead by cutting out the computer entirely. Those files are significantly smaller. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
Yes, already looking into it along with iSCSI support. Would prefer that someone else did the heavy lifting though :) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
I just tried NFS mounts on the Touch. No joy. Input/Output error.I don't think I have enough understanding of what's implemented with this OS to determine the problem. Anyone with more experience able to add an NFS mount? btw: My NAS is running NSFv3. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
Mnyb;537038 Wrote: Ok, but I think there is a good reason for that. You realize that a network disk is much slower than an USB drive. Then home user use NAS's boxes that are even slower than that, they barely reach 10mB. Yes the NAS can have 100/1000 Network adapter, but the speed reached when handling files is limited by CPU so these tiny NAS boxes are not close to that spec at all, but gigabit ethernet looks cool in the spec sheet. That leads to this: Scanning against a network drive is very slow even for a fast server. But Touch is not exactly Quad Core 4mHz machine ;) so it's a slow server. Slow+Slow+Slow is what ? really slooow. Logitech can not sell that kind of user experience, it would be horrible. A significant amount of customers would not understand ? it would be that stupid logitech box's fault. My weak Buffalo TSII NAS seem to do 24MBytes/second (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_nasItemid=190) I have no trouble using it to play multiple streams as well as serving HD video. P -- pski real stereo doesn't wake neighbors (it enrages them) . pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
I was under the impression that the Touch was able to access a network-attached hard drive without a computer as the unit was running SBS. Or at least I believe that was the discussion a few months ago on here. Anyone else able to set this up? I had it running for a while, but then realized it was running through my computer as I rebooted and the Touch stopped playing. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
Uggh. The only problem with just moving the drive over to the Touch is that it's not in the right format. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Network Attached Drive?
What format is the drive? The Touch supports several (FAT32, NTFS, ext2, ext3). Or do you mean it's an ethernet interface and not USB? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77522 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
