Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
m1abrams;541690 Wrote: Why would you bother? If someone has access to that file, whether or not they need to decrypt it is the least of your concerns. They have root access to a box on your network, having your WPA key is pointless they are ON the network already. Also if the key was encrypted you would not want to hash it because then you could not use it. The box will need to be able to decrypt it WITHOUT need external input otherwise you would have to provide creditinals every time you wanted your Touch to get online. So the root user would have to be able to decrypt it, so guess what if a user can read that file they are root. Not really going to stop them from decrypting anything if they are root. So that encryption becomes a needless complication for no gain. All good points. :) Host security on a device like a music player is probably not top on the list of Logitec's priorities, but my bigger worry is, at least on the radio, the pointless open ports presented via inetd. Echo, time and daytime are open for no real reason (unless someone can tell me why). I do wish perl was installed! Could then make the touch/radio/etc do some neat things... -- Aslak3 (SB 2, SB Boom, SB Radio) Aslak3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31977 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Aslak3;542014 Wrote: All good points. :) Host security on a device like a music player is probably not top on the list of Logitec's priorities, but my bigger worry is, at least on the radio, the pointless open ports presented via inetd. Echo, time and daytime are open for no real reason (unless someone can tell me why). I do wish perl was installed! Could then make the touch/radio/etc do some neat things... It is beyond being a priority for the points I make, I am saying there is NO point to encrypting the wifi key in this application. As for open ports, yea those are probably not needed to be open and should be closed. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
I use the scp command with the MacOS X terminal.app (e.g.) to move stuff on/off the device. -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Mnyb;536599 Wrote: It is an easy way to change network settings. ... Want to edit your wireless settings fast: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ... I cannot believe that they don't hash/encrypt the wlan key. :( -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
how would you decrypt the stored key on powering up the device? -- fragfutter You're obviously not a Linux person. If you were, you'd know that the most important feature of a GUI is the icon that opens a shell window. fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
copperstate;541653 Wrote: I use the scp command with the MacOS X terminal.app (e.g.) to move stuff on/off the device. thaks. could you explain the syntax of how to use that pleaseI want to copy files to, say, my C drive on my PC. Again, no clue about linux...an old DOS-er though...so failiar wiht commmand line. If I need to go read up I will, no problemo :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
You really don't need to scp if you just enable sharing on the device. Once sharing is enabled you can treat the Touch live a network drive. Drag and drop files and folders etc. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
copperstate;541656 Wrote: I cannot believe that they don't hash/encrypt the wlan key. :( Why would you bother? If someone has access to that file, whether or not they need to decrypt it is the least of your concerns. They have root access to a box on your network, having your WPA key is pointless they are ON the network already. Also if the key was encrypted you would not want to hash it because then you could not use it. The box will need to be able to decrypt it WITHOUT need external input otherwise you would have to provide creditinals every time you wanted your Touch to get online. So the root user would have to be able to decrypt it, so guess what if a user can read that file they are root. Not really going to stop them from decrypting anything if they are root. So that encryption becomes a needless complication for no gain. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
pounce;541682 Wrote: You really don't need to scp if you just enable sharing on the device. Once sharing is enabled you can treat the Touch live a network drive. Drag and drop files and folders etc. On my PC I dont see the Touch on my Network (both the PC and Touch are set to WORKGROUP, but when I add a custom network location I see the Touch, but I only have shared access to the Logs/Coreswatchdog folders? Anyone explain please? lol all i want to do is transfer files from theTouch to the PC and back :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Gazjam;541689 Wrote: On my PC I dont see the Touch on my Network (both the PC and Touch are set to WORKGROUP, but when I add a custom network location I see the Touch, but I only have shared access to the Logs/Coreswatchdog folders? Anyone explain please? lol all i want to do is transfer files from theTouch to the PC and back :) Do you have a usb drive or sd card plugged in? -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Gazjam;541677 Wrote: thaks. could you explain the syntax of how to use that pleaseI want to copy files to, say, my C drive on my PC. Again, no clue about linux...an old DOS-er though...so failiar wiht commmand line. If I need to go read up I will, no problemo :) I use the free WinSCP here: Pretty easy to set up - gives me some error about not being about to find Groups, but I'm cool with that. http://winscp.net/eng/download.php -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
plympton;541693 Wrote: I use the free WinSCP here: Pretty easy to set up - gives me some error about not being about to find Groups, but I'm cool with that. http://winscp.net/eng/download.php -Dan Spot on Dan, thanks. Knew a windows based program would fix it! ;) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Gazjam;541704 Wrote: Spot on Dan, thanks. Knew a windows based program would fix it! ;) Do you prefer using a special program like this over just using windows explorer? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
using scp will most likely be slower then a network share. SCP needs to encrypt/decrypt files on the touch side. The CPU will be a bottleneck. -- fragfutter You're obviously not a Linux person. If you were, you'd know that the most important feature of a GUI is the icon that opens a shell window. fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
pounce;541705 Wrote: Do you prefer using a special program like this over just using windows explorer? Hey whatever works... :) but I tried accessing it through windows networking, couldnt get access properly, hence the question. :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
The default VU meter images can be found here: http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/jive/7.5/trunk/squeezeplay/src/squeezeplay/share/applets/WQVGAsmallSkin/images/UNOFFICIAL/VUMeter/ You can also install the SqueezePlayAdmin plugin/applet combination I have in my testing repository, they make it possible to browse the Touch file system and get any file on the Touch. However, it only works for copying from the Touch to the PC. scp is the way to go when copying files from PC to the Touch. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
erland;540019 Wrote: Make sure the Recommended Only Applets option in Applet Installer menu is not checked. I did. I'm only using the TinySC of the Touch, is that the problem? -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Tony T;540156 Wrote: I did. I'm only using the TinySC of the Touch, is that the problem? Could be, you can try to just install a SBS on a computer temporarily, it should only be needed while you install the applet so you don't have to run it all the time. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
When i want make a connection with the touch i'm getting connection refused Do i have to enable something to get a connection ?? -- madpatrick madpatrick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
madpatrick;540282 Wrote: When i want make a connection with the touch i'm getting connection refused Do i have to enable something to get a connection ?? yes, go to advanced setings remote login and enable SSH. -- ulvi ulvi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Found it. Thanks -- madpatrick madpatrick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
erland;536580 Wrote: If you just want to install third party stuff, you don't need ssh, then it's enough to go to Settings/Advanced/Applet Installer and start installing stuff. Uncheck the Recommended Only Applets checkbox and you will see all applets and not just those Logitech and senior users recommend. I tried this and I get No Applets Found (Trying to get your Custom Clock Applet on my Touch) -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Tony T;540015 Wrote: I tried this and I get No Applets Found (Trying to get your Custom Clock Applet on my Touch) Make sure the Recommended Only Applets option in Applet Installer menu is not checked. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Because the welcome text is so reassuring I can't break anything (...), I'd like to explore some things I can add/change/do. Any suggestions on this level? +---+ |Filename: ssh.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9674| +---+ -- MrRalph MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
It is an easy way to change network settings. for example set static ip on the Touch Btw for some reason the prompt is outside the files system cd / fix that, if you want to learn some basic linux skills you can use it for that. get a good linux book (linux bible is ok) or google some shell commands like ls ( dir in dos) cd is change directory try ls -la for a more comprehensive list Your network settings is in the file interfaces /etc/network/interfaces try this # cat /etc/network/interfaces cat is a command that prints a file to the screen so now you can read it There is a text editor on-board the Touch vi it is horrible but very light just # vi file_name example: # vi /etc/network/interfaces !! google some good instructions on vi before doing this, frustration guarantee included. Want to edit your wireless settings fast: /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf learn to use scp or get winscp so you can copy files I have as an experiment changed to boot sound on my controller and the boot screen. There is an example in the wiki about changing highlight color, you now that black bar under the menu text's You can use scp to fetch the messages file if you want to read the logs if you have a bug to track. # reboot reboots it Or learn lua and do some awesome applets as Erland does -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Mnyb;536599 Wrote: learn to use scp or get winscp so you can copy files Should SFTP be enabled out of the box? I get. sh: /usr/libexec/sftp-server: not found Connection closed when attempting to establish a SFTP connection (SSH works fine). -- AnotherTribe AnotherTribe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4118 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
scp and sftp are different - use scp as this should be available. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
scp and sftp are different - use scp as this should be available. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SSH into my Touch, any nice things to explore?
Triode;536683 Wrote: scp and sftp are different - use scp as this should be available. Yep, my bad. I am so used to using Transmit (OS X) to browse directories and xfer files to and from my Debian server. Thanks. -- AnotherTribe AnotherTribe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4118 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77491 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
