Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
has a known cause and solution for this ever been found? I loved my SB system and have tried a few alternatives and keep coming back to "i don't want sonos" and "why is there not a good reasonable alternative?" - i just want a simple reliable system with streaming support from one of the big players like spotify yes i guess the only way is to run LMS on a PC or some other external device but its a shame the device didn't do what it was designed to do! I had a hunch its down to it not been powerful enough as putting up the VU meter is a sure way for it to get all laggy and throw in the towel. it sometimes could go 10 days fine and other days keep stopping its service over and over. the multi room play, play of personal collection and streaming of the SB system is very of the "now" its a real shame SB didn't continue or get updated baz-r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
baz-r wrote: > ok i have taken a small sd card (sub 1gb) put only 4 albums on it with > only mp3 files and album art and im still getting local music stopped > fults. > what is going on its driveing me mad? I had the same problem, and understand your pain. I ran a 4GB usb flash card with FLAC files for about a month without problems. Then I would get the stopped music server faults. I stupidly tied to go to a large USB hard drive. After a successful scan, tinyLMS would frequently crash and have to restart. One day I could not restart Tiny LMS or disconnect the drive. The LMS database on the HD had FAT errors. I have not been able to get it to scan again after reformatting the drive, recopying all the files, etc. Why is crashes when the Touch is not even playing music is a mystery. I tied to look in the log file for something helpful, but to me it is nothing but jargon. I have given up and will look to either moving to something else (Olive One) or perhaps this Raspberry Pi. However, despite how easy the computer-file say it is, this audiofool is cautious that I might trade one headache (Touch) for another with the Pi (Install Linux, Putty, LMS, etc...) P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
ok i have taken a small sd card (sub 1gb) put only 4 albums on it with only mp3 files and album art and im still getting local music stopped fults. what is going on its driveing me mad? baz-r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
touch also has 24/96 and native AAC ( and possibly also alac ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
P Nelson wrote: > I have read the Touch has a better DAC, but I use the DAC from my > Rotel pre-amp, so I should not notice much of a difference going back to > the SB3. Does the Touch have a better digital out (coax) than the SB3? I agree, any differences should be very subtle. The TOUCH reportedly has better digital out (coax) than the SB3 based on folks that know how to measure these things. But again, any actual audible difference is likely to be subtle at best. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
There is a some type of problem interacting with the HD. After giving up on the scan, I dismounted the HD, with an OK to remove USB device, and took it to my windows machine. CHDSK reported errors. P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
garym wrote: > Have you tried running LMS on a PC, just as a test to confirm that touch > does in fact work properly? Yes. No problem running LMS from my Windows XP machine; am using it now while listening to internet radio while working on the computer. I did verify the the Touch works connected to LMS on the PC. The Touch is running tinyLMS from a 8GB memory stick. The Touch is for the man cave with the HiFi system. Since the Touch isn't working as a music server (right terminology?) I am thinking about selling it while it has high value on the market. Perhaps I will use the money to nuy a Olive one. Perhaps I will just go back to my old SB3. I have read the Touch has a better DAC, but I use the DAC from my Rotel pre-amp, so I should not notice much of a difference going back to the SB3. Does the Touch have a better digital out (coax) than the SB3? P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
P Nelson wrote: > I have given up. About a month ago I was able to get a successful scan > of music on my Toshiba hard drive. It was working with occasional > crashes, but it would work. However, one day is really crashed hard and > I could not get it to release the USB HD. The LMS database had > corrupted files, so I deleted it and have been unable to get a > successful scan again. In addition what I mentioned earlier (page 1), > have reserved an IP address and I do not do anything with the Touch > while it is trying to scan. In a desperate attempt to get it to work > again I reformatted the HD (FAT32), recopied all the music, and did a > factory reset on the Touch. I was still unsuccessful getting it to scan > the music. It does work on a 8 GB flash drive. Maybe is the USB > powered issue? I don't know. > > I have observed it does not appear to be an artwork problem. The > problem is scanning files, which is between discovering files and > caching artwork. Perhaps it is some of my tags, but I deleted the > non-essential tags from the files. > > I suspect there may be a hardware/software problem with the USB > connection as sometimes it does not want to let go of the hard drive. > For example, it say you can disconnect the drive, but the drive keeps > spinning. When I go to USB information it shows the name of my hard > drive. However, it will not start LMS with the message of no USB drive > attached. > > I am thinking about getting an Olive One or if the community funded > replacement supports a hard drive I might look at that. > > Thanks for the suggestions. Have you tried running LMS on a PC, just as a test to confirm that touch does in fact work properly? garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
I have given up. About a month ago I was able to get a successful scan of music on my Toshiba hard drive. It was working with occasional crashes, but it would work. However, one day is really crashed hard and I could not get it to release the USB HD. The LMS database had corrupted files, so I deleted it and have been unable to get a successful scan again. In addition what I mentioned earlier (page 1), have reserved an IP address and I do not do anything with the Touch while it is trying to scan. In a desperate attempt to get it to work again I reformatted the HD (FAT32), recopied all the music, and did a factory reset on the Touch. I was still unsuccessful getting it to scan the music. It does work on a 8 GB flash drive. Maybe is the USB powered issue? I don't know. I have observed it does not appear to be an artwork problem. The problem is scanning files, which is between discovering files and caching artwork. Perhaps it is some of my tags, but I deleted the non-essential tags from the files. I suspect there may be a hardware/software problem with the USB connection as sometimes it does not want to let go of the hard drive. For example, it say you can disconnect the drive, but the drive keeps spinning. When I go to USB information it shows the name of my hard drive. However, it will not start LMS with the message of no USB drive attached. I am thinking about getting an Olive One or if the community funded replacement supports a hard drive I might look at that. Thanks for the suggestions. P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
I used to have this problem on an almost daily basis when using the internal LMS. I'd come home from an evening out and wanted to relax listening to music and see the dreaded message, wait for a rescan to the point I just switched it off and went to bed. Eventually I took advice from this forum and bought a simple cheap small footprint PC and installed the PC server s/w from Logitech. It's low enough power not to cost too much to run 24/7 and I have never had a problem since. Nor have I ever had to mess around with the clock since as it also used to slip using the LMS, and the search speed is far superior. I know you shouldn't have to do this but I was like you in terms of frustration. Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
dasmueller wrote: > At one point I was using a Toshiba Canvio 2.0 1 TB HDD. The exact model > # I do not know. It Now is used to contain my library but is attached to > my PC. I have a Toshiba Canvio 3.0 that I use for a backup. > > That being said, when I had the 2.0 drive connected directly to the > Touch I was using SBS 7.5.3. The reason I switched to a network was that > it was a real pain to add files. Others have commented that it can be > done w/o issues but I am a luddite. If you want to/insist on running w > the HDD attached to the Touch you might try downgrading to SBS 7.5.3. It > can be found here- > > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/ > > Good luck and let us know about your progress etc. Yes as Gary Said it can be finicky if you remove the drive all the time to add files its better to just do it over the network . And if OP is still reading don't try to use while it's scanning that would ensure a crash , let it finish . And yes it's a very crippled version of the server it works better from a pc or other suitable machine . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
At one point I was using a Toshiba Canvio 2.0 1 TB HDD. The exact model # I do not know. It Now is used to contain my library but is attached to my PC. I have a Toshiba Canvio 3.0 that I use for a backup. That being said, when I had the 2.0 drive connected directly to the Touch I was using SBS 7.5.3. The reason I switched to a network was that it was a real pain to add files. Others have commented that it can be done w/o issues but I am a luddite. If you want to/insist on running w the HDD attached to the Touch you might try downgrading to SBS 7.5.3. It can be found here- http://downloads.slimdevices.com/ Good luck and let us know about your progress etc. dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
dasmueller wrote: > I may be wrong but doing a search the Toshiba Centrino is a laptop not > an external drive. Please confirm what you are using . I got the name wrong I am using Toshiba Canvio 1.0 TB USB 3.0 Portable Hard Drive - HDTC610XK3B1 (Black) P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
I may be wrong but doing a search the Toshiba Centrino is a laptop not an external drive. Please confirm what you are using . dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
P Nelson wrote: > I am also having the same problem. TinyLMS will crash even when the > unit is not playing any music. > > I read the suggestions on the provided link: > > > > I have about 2000 flac files and about 1500 MP3, for a total of about > 3500 tracks. Sometimes the indexing will crash, sometimes it will work > fine. > I am using a Toshiba Centreno 1TB portable drive, formatted to FAT32, > single partition, powered by the Touch. > I removed embedded artwork and made sure all artwork was 500x500 or > less. > I tried to remove extra tags that were not necessary to selecting music. > The tags do have replaygain information > I am running the most recent software version, and have installed it > twice and did factory resets. > I have two SB radios connected to the Touch. > > The Toshiba drive is powered by the Touch, but other have reported this > drive as being compatible. Earlier, when testing with a USB stick, I > also had crashing problems, but in that case I did not clean-up my FLAC > files to remove artwork or extra tag information. > > I have tied to view the log file, but when it crashes and I restart LMS, > it clears the log file. > > What can I investigate to solve this problem? Any suggestions? Sorry, no other ideas. use of TinyLMS in the TOUCH is "touchy" (no pun intended). My recommendation is always to use LMS on something a bit more powerful. Any old computer is more than enough (and doesn't have to be in the same room, anywhere it can connect to the router is just fine for running LMS and feediing players). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
I am also having the same problem. TinyLMS will crash even when the unit is not playing any music. I read the suggestions on the provided link: garym wrote: > Here's some best practices for using "tinyLMS" within the TOUCH: > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?82070-Touch-with-USB-drive-mastering-TinySB&highlight=using+touch+server I have about 2000 flac files and about 1500 MP3, for a total of about 3500 tracks. Sometimes the indexing will crash, sometimes it will work fine. I am using a Toshiba Centreno 1TB portable drive, formatted to FAT32, single partition, powered by the Touch. I removed embedded artwork and made sure all artwork was 500x500 or less. I tried to remove extra tags that were not necessary to selecting music. The tags do have replaygain information I am running the most recent software version, and have installed it twice and did factory resets. I have two SB radios connected to the Touch. The Toshiba drive is powered by the Touch, but other have reported this drive as being compatible. Earlier, when testing with a USB stick, I also had crashing problems, but in that case I did not clean-up my FLAC files to remove artwork or extra tag information. I have tied to view the log file, but when it crashes and I restart LMS, it clears the log file. What can I investigate to solve this problem? Any suggestions? P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
toby10 wrote: > USB HD self powered or bus powered? How many mp3's on HD? Anything > besides mp3's on HD? HD is a single partician? How is HD formatted? i have tried a 32gb sd card with just mp3's on, a 4gb usb stick and 2 external hdd both with own supply baz-r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
Here's some best practices for using "tinyLMS" within the TOUCH: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?82070-Touch-with-USB-drive-mastering-TinySB&highlight=using+touch+server garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
USB HD self powered or bus powered? How many mp3's on HD? Anything besides mp3's on HD? HD is a single partician? How is HD formatted? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
baz-r wrote: > firmware is 7.7.2 R9663 > > where can i find beta's or older firmware's why do you want older firmware? I don't think your problem is a firmware problem. But if you really want different firmware, you just connect your TOUCH to a PC running an older version of LMS/SbS and the firmware will be automatically downgraded to match. Again, I don't think this is your problem. But old LMS/SbS available for download here: downloads.slimdevices.com garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
firmware is 7.7.2 R9663 where can i find beta's or older firmware's baz-r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] repeat" local music service has stopped " with new touch
im going mad with my squeezebox touch my wife got me for crimbo i get this "local music service has stopped" error all the time and its basicly unuseable. im usding a usb or sd with mp3's on and have linked in my boom that has worked fine to be surved form the touch. i have tried updateing firmware (auto) and factory reset with no luck and done all that stuff on http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Troubleshooting_Squeezebox_Touch_Server#Local_music_service_stopped is it a firmware problem? or am i going mad? baz-r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
