Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-11-12 Thread MorpheusUK


Winder wrote: 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have 4 SBTs and I know I am late to the party, but decided to install
> EDO to access 192K material.
> 
> All SBTs are at 7.8xx version
> 
> After going to App Gallery>3rd Party Apps etc, and installing EDO they
> all only reboot once and then seemingly that's it - they don't install a
> kernel and do the second reboot - and nor is EDO active.
> In the Apps Gallery the EDO applet is listed as Re-Install - not
> Un-Install - so I assume it has not installed as evident above.
> I then try installing the Kernel Updater in the Apps Gallery and that
> too ends up in a 'Re-Install' state.
> 
> I have of course tried then re-installing EDO but of course the status
> quo remains.
> This happens on all 4 SBTs.
> 
> I have done a full factory reset - upgraded to 7.8 - that all goes well
> and all SBTs upgrade to latest firmware.
> I am logged into Squeezebox.com in LMS.
> 
> If anyone can help in this regard it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks

Just had a similar problem running the 8.0.community firmware and the
original 7.x Logitech ones on my Squeezebox Touch where there was no
Digital Output menu option or message about EDO on the boot screen. So
just In case anybody else has a similar issue like the above with the
reinstall state and missing Digital Output page, it also turned out to
be a networking issue but not firewall related (my guess is the DNS
response might be a bit too slow). In my case the touch is connected to
a secondary router via Ethernet which is in WiFi bridge mode and for
whatever reason that seemed to stop it consistently being able to
download the applet properly. I connected it directly to my main router,
selected reinstall and it then downloaded the applet rebooted and
downloaded and installed the kernel then prompted for the Digital Output
destination. 

Hope this helps someone in the future

Third time lucky as I accidentally deleted two of my posts for this
whilst trying to fix typos on my phone. The original problem one and
then the first version of the above. Sorry if anybody has started
reading either



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-11-12 Thread MorpheusUK


Winder wrote: 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have 4 SBTs and I know I am late to the party, but decided to install
> EDO to access 192K material.
> 
> All SBTs are at 7.8xx version
> 
> After going to App Gallery>3rd Party Apps etc, and installing EDO they
> all only reboot once and then seemingly that's it - they don't install a
> kernel and do the second reboot - and nor is EDO active.
> In the Apps Gallery the EDO applet is listed as Re-Install - not
> Un-Install - so I assume it has not installed as evident above.
> I then try installing the Kernel Updater in the Apps Gallery and that
> too ends up in a 'Re-Install' state.
> 
> I have of course tried then re-installing EDO but of course the status
> quo remains.
> This happens on all 4 SBTs.
> 
> I have done a full factory reset - upgraded to 7.8 - that all goes well
> and all SBTs upgrade to latest firmware.
> I am logged into Squeezebox.com in LMS.
> 
> If anyone can help in this regard it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks

Just had a similar problem running the 8.0.community firmware and the
original 7.x Logitech ones on my Squeezebox Touch where there was no
Digital Output menu option or message about EDO on the boot screen. So
just In case anybody else has a similar issue like the above with the
reinstall state and modifying Digital Output option, it also turned out
to be a networking issue but not firewall related (my guess is the DNS
response might be a bit too slow). In my case the touch is connected to
a secondary router via Ethernet which is in WiFi bridge mode and for
whatever reason that seemed to stop it consistently being able to
download the applet properly. I connected it directly to my main router,
selected reinstall and it then downloaded the applet rebooted and
downloaded and installed the kernel then prompted for the Digital Output
destination. 

Hope this helps someone in the future



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-11-12 Thread MorpheusUK


I have just purchased a DAC that is supported by EDO but am having
problems installing the applet.

I'm running the following:
Squeezebox Touch (connected via Ethernet)
Community Firmware v8.0.1 r16907
LMS 8.3.1 (Docker container on Synology NAS) connected to
mysqueezebox.com
Chord Qutest DAC via USB

As per installation instructions for the firmware I did a factory reset
them tried to install EDO. However after the installation there was no
Digital Output option and the applet couldn't be removed only
reinstalled which briefly flashes up downloading before rebooting the
Touch.

I tried another factory reset let the first Firmware update (7.7.3 IIRC)
install them tried installing EDO at which point it downloaded the
kernel and installed allowing me to select the Qutest from the Digital
Output screen. I let it update the firmware to v7.8.0 and I was back to
the no kernel and reinstall only option being available from both the
gallery and applet installer pages. 

Further factory resets haven't got me back into the state where EDO
installs correctly with the kernel update and the EDO message on the
boot screen.

A few pages back someone else seemed to have the same problem but the
suggested solution of installing and selecting digital only after a
factory reset doesn't work as the minute I click install v0.10 it goes
into the download then reboots :-

Winder wrote: 
> All SBTs are at 7.8xx version
> 
> After going to App Gallery>3rd Party Apps etc, and installing EDO they
> all only reboot once and then seemingly that's it - they don't install a
> kernel and do the second reboot - and nor is EDO active.
> In the Apps Gallery the EDO applet is listed as Re-Install - not
> Un-Install - so I assume it has not installed as evident above.
> I then try installing the Kernel Updater in the Apps Gallery and that
> too ends up in a 'Re-Install' state.
> 

Any ideas?

Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-01-31 Thread Zombie


Dave1972 wrote: 
> If you read page 1 of the thread you will see the following:
> 
> There are a number of limitations to be aware of:
> 1) *USB 1 dacs* which operate in asynchronous mode
> 
> If you miss that, the word "USB" is in the thread title, too! ;)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-01-31 Thread Winder


Man in a van wrote: 
> Do a factory reset, you should be connected to the enternet
> 
> From the home screen on the Touch:-
> 
> Settings > Advanced > Applet Installer > Enhanced Digital Output >
> Install 0.10 > select digital only
> 
> When the screen comes back up:-
> 
> Settings > Advanced > Digital Output > Select digital output > make your
> choice
> 
> ronnie

Thanks Ronnie - all sorted.

It was an internet firewall issue.

One thing I have noticed is that on the two SBTs I have updated, the
sound effects no longer work.

Ta

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-01-30 Thread Man in a van


Winder wrote: 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have 4 SBTs and I know I am late to the party, but decided to install
> EDO to access 192K material.
> 
> If anyone can help in this regard it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks


Do a factory reset, you should be connected to the enternet

>From the home screen on the Touch:-

Settings > Advanced > Applet Installer > Enhanced Digital Output >
Install 0.10 > select digital only

When the screen comes back up:-

Settings > Advanced > Digital Output > Select digital output > make your
choice

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2022-01-30 Thread Winder


Hello All,

I have 4 SBTs and I know I am late to the party, but decided to install
EDO to access 192K material.

All SBTs are at 7.8xx version

After going to App Gallery>3rd Party Apps etc, and installing EDO they
all only reboot once and then seemingly that's it - they don't install a
kernel and do the second reboot - and nor is EDO active.
In the Apps Gallery the EDO applet is listed as Re-Install - not
Un-Install - so I assume it has not installed as evident above.
I then try installing the Kernel Updater in the Apps Gallery and that
too ends up in a 'Re-Install' state.

I have of course tried then re-installing EDO but of course the status
quo remains.
This happens on all 4 SBTs.

I have done a full factory reset - upgraded to 7.8 - that all goes well
and all SBTs upgrade to latest firmware.
I am logged into Squeezebox.com in LMS.

If anyone can help in this regard it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-11-03 Thread Dave1972


Heuer wrote: 
> Have you tried using a coax SPID/F connection?

If you read page 1 of the thread you will see the following:

There are a number of limitations to be aware of:
1) *USB 1 dacs* which operate in asynchronous mode

If you miss that, the word "USB" is in the thread title, too! ;)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread slartibartfast


Heuer wrote: 
> Have you tried using a coax SPID/F connection?The Marantz doesn't have one.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Heuer


Have you tried using a coax SPID/F connection?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


All those ideas will definitely have to wait till I get back. I only
came across the 192khz plugin by pure chance when I was looking to
purchase another touch this week. So it's not the end of the world if it
does not work. I only have few 192khz albums anyway. Just thought it
would be interesting to try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


Croftman wrote: 
> I can confirm that if I access the squeezebox media server via the
> Marantz interface the same file plays fine and displays 192khz/24bit on
> the display. If I play the same file via USB into the Marantz the same
> is true. It is just not working properly via the touch.

totally remove the EDO applet

then reset the Touch to factory settings

Make sure the firmware is up to date and everything works.

Connect the topuch to the marantz, power on the Marantz, select the
optical input, power on the touch and install the EDO applet, 

Bring us back a stick of rock:) slarty likes  rock too :p

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Have you tried connecting the Touch via USB?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

The usb on the Marantz is for a disk or stick or apple thingy

The only two digital inputs are Optical and the spec says 192 kHZ is OK
(this was the first thing I checked)

Maybe the OP can try the other input, but better to ask Marantz (there
might be a firmware issue, or error in the spec sheet)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread slartibartfast


Croftman wrote: 
> I have hundreds of USB leads but no male to male. I am off on holiday on
> Friday so I am trying to fix this whilst doing lots of other things so
> it might have to wait till I get back. But I would like to say thank you
> for all the help so far. If anybody has any other ideas other than USB
> that would be great.If it makes you feel any better it won't sound any better 
> at 192kHz
[emoji2]

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


I have hundreds of USB leads but no male to male. I am off on holiday on
Friday so I am trying to fix this whilst doing lots of other things so
it might have to wait till I get back. But I would like to say thank you
for all the help so far. If anybody has any other ideas other than USB
that would be great.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread slartibartfast


Croftman wrote: 
> I can confirm that if I access the squeezebox media server via the
> Marantz interface the same file plays fine and displays 192khz/24bit on
> the display. If I play the same file via USB into the Marantz the same
> is true. It is just not working properly via the touch.Have you tried 
> connecting the Touch via USB?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


I can confirm that if I access the squeezebox media server via the
Marantz interface the same file plays fine and displays 192khz/24bit on
the display. If I play the same file via USB into the Marantz the same
is true. It is just working properly via the touch.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Well, I don't really know, but I'm guessing the Marantz does not accept
> the 192kHz files and Squeezelite (or LMS) resamples it to 96 kHZ
> 
> which OS do you have LMS installed on?
> 
> have you tried a 48 kHz stream ?
> 
> I'm away for a couple of hours now, will check back later
> 
> ronnieLooks like it is meant to support 192kHz
https://manuals.marantz.com/mcr612/NA/EN/OBAOSYoaorzswe.php

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


Installed on 64bit windows, everything connected via gigabit ethernet.
44khz and 48khz play and display correctly. Only info in the manual for
the Marantz is
35785
So it looks like it should


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


Croftman wrote: 
> Sorry what does that mean and if that is the case how do I stop that
> happening ?

Well, I don't really know, but I'm guessing the Marantz does not accept
the 192kHz files and Squeezelite (or LMS) resamples it to 96 kHZ

which OS do you have LMS installed on?

have you tried a 48 kHz stream ?

I'm away for a couple of hours now, will check back later

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


Sorry what does that mean and if that is the case how do I stop that
happening ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


It's being resampled



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


It would not let me paste the log file so have included an image of the
log
35784


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


@CROFTMAN
Whilst playing the flac file;

on the SBTouch Now Playing screen, tap the plus sign in the top right
hand corner, then tap 'More', what does it report ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread slartibartfast


Croftman wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply how do you set that up and where does the logfile
> reside on the pc
> I can see logging in advanced but no mention of player.sourceYou must have 
> missed it in the list [emoji2]. Information on the
location of the server file is on the same page and you can click on the
link to view it.[image:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/bf47af8692703d911ed1ef98fafb8be8.jpg][image:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210922/f40f6b67ad7d69c6e0e0873c796bcae9.jpg]

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


*@Croftman
*
If you stay in the UK, does the display switch to 48kHz if you stream a
BBC radio station via the SBTouch?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


Thanks for the reply how do you set that up and where does the logfile
reside on the pc



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread slartibartfast


Croftman wrote: 
> Downloaded the same track just to make sure
> 35780357813578235783
> Still showing 96khz as you can seeSet logging for player.source to info or 
> debug and check the server log
after playing to see what LMS thinks is going on.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Croftman


Downloaded the same track just to make sure
35780357813578235783
Still showing 96khz as you can see


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-22 Thread Man in a van


Croftman wrote: 
> Yes Digital Only [is current]

I don't have any 192kHZ files, so i downloaded this as a link into my
Favourites

http://www.lindberg.no/hires/test/2L38_01_192kHz.flac

and here it is; playing

35779

It is buffering a litle as I don't have it plugged into an Ethernet
cable.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-21 Thread Croftman


Yes Digital Only [is current]



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-21 Thread Man in a van


Croftman wrote: 
> Can anyone help I have just done the software upgrade to play 192khz
> files. The files are definitely 192khz as proved with media info, in
> FLAC format. My Marantz M-CR612 shows the bit rate on the optical in
> when a signal is input. But still only shows 96khz as it always has. I
> followed the instructions at the beginning of the thread to install and
> all seemed to go well, but no change on the incoming bit rate.
> 
> Thank you

Are you using the "Digital Only" output in:

Settings > Advanced > Digital Output > Select Digital Output


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-09-21 Thread Croftman


Can anyone help I have just done the software upgrade to play 192khz
files. The files are definitely 192khz as proved with media info, in
FLAC format. My Marantz M-CR612 shows the bit rate on the optical in
when a signal is input. But still only shows 96khz as it always has. I
followed the instructions at the beginning of the thread to install and
all seemed to go well, but no change on the incoming bit rate.

Thank you



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-23 Thread slartibartfast


tank121 wrote: 
> You can actually just mute & unmute when the bitrate changes.
> How does the Pi sound compared to the SBT?I think it would be difficult to 
> tell them apart.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-23 Thread tank121

Good to hear, I’ll keep the Touch until it goes to the digital
graveyard.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-23 Thread tank121

I’m well impressed with the sound. Nearly bought a CA CXNV2 :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-23 Thread tank121


You can actually just mute & unmute when the bitrate changes.
How does the Pi sound compared to the SBT?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-19 Thread slartibartfast


tank121 wrote: 
> I've always had this plugin enabled but never used the USB or of the
> Touch.
> I'm very tempted to buy the Topping E30 USB DAC as on paper it's DAC is
> better than the ESS Sabre 9016 built into my Arcam SA10 amp.
> Does this DAC work with the plugin?
> Will it then give Hires for Qbuzz?
> Do you need a decent USB cable?
> For anyone that owns this DAC are you better running it off a battery
> pack?
> 
> TIA

It works but I found that when the sampling frequency changed between
tracks or radio stations the DAC became silent. I had to toggle between
DAC inputs to get it to play again. On the other hand it works fine
using SPDIF. I now have a Raspberry Pi feeding the USB and the Touch
feeding the coax. 
The DAC comes with a USB cable which looks cheap but works fine. 
I use a Samsung phone charger. I initially tried a rechargeable USB
power pack but couldn't tell the difference and recharging was a pain.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-19 Thread tank121


I've always had this plugin enabled but never used the USB or of the
Touch.
I'm very tempted to buy the Topping E30 USB DAC as on paper it's DAC is
better than the ESS Sabre 9016 built into my Arcam SA10 amp.
Does this DAC work with the plugin?
Will it then give Hires for Qbuzz?
Do you need a decent USB cable?
For anyone that owns this DAC are you better running it off a battery
pack?

TIA



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-08-19 Thread tank121


I've always had this plugin enabled but never used the USB or of the
Touch.
I'm very tempted to buy the Topping E30 USB DAC as on paper it's DAC is
better than the ESS Sabre 9016 built into my Arcam SA10 amp.
Does this DAC work with the plugin?
Will it then give Hires for Qbuzz?
Do you need a decent USB cable?
For anyone that owns this DAC are you better running it off a battery
pack?

TIA



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-05-14 Thread cfuttrup


Hi redtom

I see you're right. For example the Bel Canto 2Qute dac ... (the 2Qute
is a Chord), and also the Benchmark 'mytek' dac is new to me :-?.

P.S. I tried the RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS and it didn't work. Probably
needs a USB-hub between (not tested).

/Claus



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-05-14 Thread redtom


Has someone borked the spreadsheet at
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UnnpylzUvFW3oi0ip5ghpuWFfDVcufKCn8k54uhqYKQ/
?

Need to go back to the version from 30th Jan for the models to match the
manufacturers, not sure what other data is wrong atm as well.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-04-21 Thread kristina

Curious if anyone has had success connecting a Denafrips DAC via USB?
First attempt didn’t work, but I think I have a powered hub somewhere to
try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-11 Thread pierrepfeffer


blackscorpio wrote: 
> Has anyone used Starting point systems DAC 3 successfully with the
> touch?
> 
> I tried it keeps restarting when I select DIGITAL out in the settings. 
> Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk

I only have my own experience with my Gungnir and my Modi DACs to draw
upon, but FWIW ... if you are trying to use USB, you should see your
specific DAC listed as an option on the Touch screen.  I.E. - digital
AND analogue AND Starting Point DAC 3.  If your DAC isn't listed as an
option on the Touch screen, then it probably isn't going to work - at
least not on USB.  Even if you do see it listed, it may not play which
is what I faced with my Gungnir.  If you have Coax s/pdif available as
DAC inputs, then the Touch EDO may work using digital out.  It did with
my Gungnir. 

As was mentioned earlier, the Touch does reboot every time you change
output.

One final observation based on my experience.  The original Touch will
play (up to) 96/24 files without EDO.  It will convert it to analogue
output (internal DAC), or output it digitally by way of Coax or Optical.
The EDO app provides TWO enhancements to the Touch.  One, it enabled
digital output of up to 192/24, and Two it added USB as an additional
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-10 Thread Stratmangler


blackscorpio wrote: 
> It's keeps restarting in a loop
> 
> Sent from my HD1901 using Tapatalk
Use the coaxial SPDIF



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-10 Thread blackscorpio


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I think it does restart when you change the output setting.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkIt's keeps restarting in a loop

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-10 Thread slartibartfast


blackscorpio wrote: 
> Has anyone used Starting point systems DAC 3 successfully with the
> touch?
> 
> I tried it keeps restarting when I select DIGITAL out in the settings. 
> Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> Sent from my HD1901 using TapatalkI think it does restart when you change the 
> output setting.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-10 Thread blackscorpio


Has anyone used Starting point systems DAC 3 successfully with the
touch?

I tried it keeps restarting when I select DIGITAL out in the settings. 
Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-03 Thread garym


pierrepfeffer wrote: 
> I can't argue with that.  garym, I've gotten lots of help from you and
> many of the "old timers" on this board.  Many thanks.  
> 
> However, I do have to disagree with the importance of being able to
> "hear" the difference.  You KNOW it's not about "how it sounds" but
> rather, is it the "best" available.  LOL.  Good seeing you here again
> after all this time.

Seeking the best is a good goal of course, but at some point (for some
people) the "seeking" takes over from the enjoyment of having reached
"really good".  As they say, don't let the "perfect" be the enemy of the
good.  On the other hand, I have some friends that say, "I'll quit
looking for better when they close the lid on my coffin.".  Take care
and enjoy!  /Gary



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-03 Thread pierrepfeffer


garym wrote: 
> Without regard to your hearing, the difference between a well
> implemented S/PDIF and USB connection would not even rise to level of
> subtle.

I can't argue with that.  garym, I've gotten lots of help from you and
many of the "old timers" on this board.  Many thanks.  

However, I do have to disagree with the importance of being able to
"hear" the difference.  You KNOW it's not about "how it sounds" but
rather, is it the "best" available.  LOL.  Good seeing you here again
after all this time.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-03 Thread pierrepfeffer


slartibartfast wrote: 
> It wouldn't cost a lot to try a piCorePlayer USB out to your DAC.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Yes ... I've been perusing other threads for those kinds of options. 
Didn't want to pollute this thread with "alternatives" discussion, but
yes - I'm looking in that direction.  Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-03 Thread garym


pierrepfeffer wrote: 
> I have assumed that USB was "technically" superior to s/pdif.  Of
> course, over 50 years of motor cycle riding probably precludes my ever
> hearing any subtle difference, even if there were one. 

Without regard to your hearing, the difference between a well
implemented S/PDIF and USB connection would not even rise to level of
subtle.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-03 Thread slartibartfast


pierrepfeffer wrote: 
> Hey Chris, you're right of course.  It's what I'm doing right now.  I
> have assumed that USB was "technically" superior to s/pdif.  Of course,
> over 50 years of motor cycle riding probably precludes my ever hearing
> any subtle difference, even if there were one.  Just annoyed I've
> invested in a USB upgrade of cosmic proportion (LOL) and can't make it
> work. Not sure what I'll do going forward.It wouldn't cost a lot to try a 
> piCorePlayer USB out to your DAC.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2021-01-02 Thread pierrepfeffer


Stratmangler wrote: 
> What are you playing through to the DAC that demands that it goes over
> USB?
> The S/PDIF coax out of the Touch is not flaky in the slightest, and
> supports 24/192 natively with the EDO applet installed.
> What advantage does USB give you?

Hey Chris, you're right of course.  It's what I'm doing right now.  I
have assumed that USB was "technically" superior to s/pdif.  Of course,
over 50 years of motor cycle riding probably precludes my ever hearing
any subtle difference, even if there were one.  Just annoyed I've
invested in a USB upgrade of cosmic proportion (LOL) and can't make it
work. Not sure what I'll do going forward.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-31 Thread Stratmangler


pierrepfeffer wrote: 
> Have I upgraded myself out of compatibility with the my Touch?  I have
> no real interest in upgrading my streamer, but do want to use the edo
> usb output.  Any suggestions, or do I simply have an incompatible usb in
> my dac?  I'm running latest LMS 8.1 and latest firmware on touch.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  My next move probably is to buy
> a micro rendu, but I'd REALLY rather keep using the Touch.
What are you playing through to the DAC that demands that it goes over
USB?
The S/PDIF coax out of the Touch is not flaky in the slightest, and
supports 24/192 natively with the EDO applet installed.
What advantage does USB give you?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-30 Thread pierrepfeffer


pierrepfeffer wrote: 
> Thanks for your thoughts on this.  I will try the usb hub workaround to
> see if that fixes issue, and will update here and on spreadsheet once I
> get that done.  I just moved so finding the hubs will take some time. 
> In the meantime i'm using the coax in.
> 
> Thanks again.

External non-powered hub does not work with new Schiit Gunginer Unison
USB upgrade.  Still looking for my powered hub to give that a try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-26 Thread pierrepfeffer


Man in a van wrote: 
> Most likely, I would guess, and the user base on this forum for the same
> device as yourself is likely small.
> 
> 
> 
> ronnie
> 
> Have you tried any workarounds, auch as using a usb hub between the
> Touch and dac (powered and unpowered). does the dac have a co-ax input 
> tha you could use?

Thanks for your thoughts on this.  I will try the usb hub workaround to
see if that fixes issue, and will update here and on spreadsheet once I
get that done.  I just moved so finding the hubs will take some time. 
In the meantime i'm using the coax in.

Thanks again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-26 Thread garym


aatr54 wrote: 
> Hi there, I'm new and just got my Rpi4B today. Got it set up and ready
> for streaming and is working now. I am trying to stream Tidal to my
> MQA-capable DAC but whenever I try to load up some MQA files, the bit
> rate on my DAC display does not change and is stuck at 44.1 khz. What
> setting do I need to toggle to get the DAC to decode the MQA properly?

You should probably start a new thread for this question (title it
something like "Tidal and MQA files playing through LMS". It has nothing
to do with the EDO app (the title of this thread).  LMS won't decode
MQA, but I recall seeing some posts that reported that the MQA Tidal
files were passed through to the MQA capable DACs and "turned on the
blue light" showing that MQA was recognized.  Can't find these posts at
the moment, but google a bit and you may find them.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-26 Thread Man in a van

pierrepfeffer wrote: 
> 
> Have I upgraded myself out of compatibility with the my Touch?  I have
> no real interest in upgrading my streamer, but do want to use the edo
> usb output.  Any suggestions, or do I simply have an incompatible usb in
> my dac?  I'm running latest LMS 8.1 and latest firmware on touch.
> 

Most likely, I would guess, and the user base on this forum for the same
device as yourself is likely small.

> SO WHAT PLATFORMS DOES YOUR UNISON USB INPUT SUPPORT?
> Actually, the question should be “What platforms support your  Unison
> USB input?” since our Unison USB input is 100% UAC2 compliant  (that is,
> USB Audio Class 2, the accepted standard for USB audio  transmission.)
> So, here you go:
> 
> 
> >   >   > 
  - *Linux. *As in, most popular streamers, from the  Sonore
  > MicroRendu to the Salk Streamer. Note “most.” Also most Linux 
  > distros that support UAC2 natively will be plug and play. Please
  > note  that we cannot provide detailed technical support for Linux.
  > > > 
> 

ronnie

Have you tried any workarounds, auch as using a usb hub between the
Touch and dac (powered and unpowered). does the dac have a co-ax input 
tha you could use?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-26 Thread Man in a van


aatr54 wrote: 
> Hi there, I'm new and just got my Rpi4B today. Got it set up and ready
> for streaming and is working now. I am trying to stream Tidal to my
> MQA-capable DAC but whenever I try to load up some MQA files, the bit
> rate on my DAC display does not change and is stuck at 44.1 khz. What
> setting do I need to toggle to get the DAC to decode the MQA properly?

LMS does not play MQA



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-26 Thread aatr54


Hi there, I'm new and just got my Rpi4B today. Got it set up and ready
for streaming and is working now. I am trying to stream Tidal to my
MQA-capable DAC but whenever I try to load up some MQA files, the bit
rate on my DAC display does not change and is stuck at 44.1 khz. What
setting do I need to toggle to get the DAC to decode the MQA properly?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-12-25 Thread pierrepfeffer


My usb 5 on the schiit gungnir failed, so while having it repaired I
decided to upgrade to the new unison usb.  First time with new usb
installed the touch booted, saw the gunginer, and then rebooted as per
normal but no music.  Clicked on the digital gungnir output and it said
dac status was "stopped."  Did a factory reset, reinstalled edo, and now
the gungnir is again recognized and clicking on the digital output for
the gunginer shows the dac is "running"  - but still no sound. 

Have I upgraded myself out of compatibility with the my Touch?  I have
no real interest in upgrading my streamer, but do want to use the edo
usb output.  Any suggestions, or do I simply have an incompatible usb in
my dac?  I'm running latest LMS 8.1 and latest firmware on touch.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  My next move probably is to buy
a micro rendu, but I'd REALLY rather keep using the Touch.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-26 Thread Man in a van


Thomasl47 wrote: 
> I have received the Xduoo XD-05 plus and it works on USB with my
> Squeezebox Touch (also with my android phone and my Ibasso DX90),
> perfect !

Good to hear :)

When you have had a little more use from it, would please consider
adding the info to the list, over here (when you have the time)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UnnpylzUvFW3oi0ip5ghpuWFfDVcufKCn8k54uhqYKQ/edit#gid=0

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-26 Thread Thomasl47


Man in a van wrote: 
> Hi Thomas
> 
> apparently the device uses the xmos usb chip, so there is a good chance
> that it may be recognised by the Squeezebox Touch.
> 
> As always, "buyer beware", make sure thta you can return the device if
> it does not work (maybe check with the sellerbefore purchase for
> compatability and your right to return).
> 
> All the best :)
> 
> ronnie
> 
> And welcome to the forum :)

I have received the Xduoo XD-05 plus and it works on USB with my
Squeezebox Touch (also with my android phone and my Ibasso DX90),
perfect !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> ronnieWould you believe the Topping remote control does strange things to my
Virginmedia box? You couldn't make it up [emoji3]

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Paul Webster wrote: 
> You will only have the VU meters when it is running on the same machine
> as it is controlling - it uses shared memory with Squeezelite to achieve
> it.I suspected that was the case. So the only way to have the Touch act as
a VU meter for another player is to synchronise the players.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Paul Webster


You will only have the VU meters when it is running on the same machine
as it is controlling - it uses shared memory with Squeezelite to achieve
it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> ronnieI was just about to ask how to use the now playing screen but realised I
could switch player on the Touch. For some reason the VU meters don't
work when I do that.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> 
> So do I use the Touch on coax or the pCP on USB or synchronise them and
> use the Touch as a now playing screen? [emoji3]
> 
> you can use the now playing screen without syncing
> 
> 
> Did you really have your DAC switching between sample rates when using
> USB from the Touch?
> 
> This might have been the problem I experienced when I first got the
> Topping, I can't remember if I was using the Touch or not:( :( :o
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Well iI have tried downloading  the kernel update (did not expect that
> work,obvs)
> 
> and connected the SBTouch via passive usb hub; that did not work.
> 
> Replaced the Touch with a rpi3b+ running pCP v 6.1.0 squeezelite and
> that worked without a problem.
> 
> Remember the EDO is not guarenteed to work with all dacs and as there is
> no developement of the Applet, it is what it is :rolleyes:
> 
> ronnieOK, now I have tried my picoreplayer running pCP 7 and that just works
at all sample rates and DSD. I have picoreplayer connected to USB and
the Touch connected to Coax and switching between them I can't tell the
difference. 
DSD works on WiFi on the picoreplayer. 
So do I use the Touch on coax or the pCP on USB or synchronise them and
use the Touch as a now playing screen? [emoji3]
Did you really have your DAC switching between sample rates when using
USB from the Touch?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


Well iI have tried downloading  the kernel update (did not expect that
work,obvs)

and connected the SBTouch via passive usb hub; that did not work.

Replaced the Touch with a rpi3b+ running pCP v 6.1.0 squeezelite and
that worked without a problem.

Remember the EDO is not guarenteed to work with all dacs and as there is
no developement of the Applet, it is what it is :rolleyes:

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I have never used a web browser on the Pi and there is no screen
> attached.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Well if you ssh into the pi, use raspi-config to activate VNC server

'https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
' (https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/)

and then on your somputer desktop install the free viewer for the OS it
uses.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> You don't need squeezelite, if you select the Topping as default output
> it should play.
> 
> Connect the topping and the reboot
> 
> Select it as output
> 
> Reboot again
> 
> Open web browser search for fip radio and it should play
> 
> ronnie who is definately gone now:o
> 
> the idea is to check if works corectly, then try it direct to a pi with
> squeezeliteI have never used a web browser on the Pi and there is no screen
attached.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I don't have squeezelite on the Pi4. I have a another Pi3B with pcp7 to
> try.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

You don't need squeezelite, if you select the Topping as default output
it should play.

Connect the topping and the reboot

Select it as output

Reboot again

Open web browser search for fip radio and it should play

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Oh, OK
> 
> If you connect the topping direct to the Buster rpi and select it as
> main output (top right hand corner, left or right click on volume)
> 
> The open the browser and play from fip radio, bbc sounds (and the listen
> again from the schedules) and radio paradise does it function correctly
> ?I don't have squeezelite on the Pi4. I have a another Pi3B with pcp7 to
try.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> So (still on usb) I changed the pcp 7 beta to lMS v 8.0.0 and nothing
> would play
> 
> > > > [20-11-12 12:07:22.7591] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't 
> > create command line for dff playback for 
> > [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-038_stereo_01_01.dff]
> > [20-11-12  12:08:27.3586] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't
> > create  command line for dff playback for 
> > [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-038_stereo_01_01.dff]
> > [20-11-12  12:09:49.5060] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't
> > create  command line for dsf playback for 
> > [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-139_stereo_DSF_5644k_1b_01.dsf]
> > [20-11-12  12:10:00.9911] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't
> > create  command line for dsf playback for 
> > [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-139_stereo_DSF_5644k_1b_01.dsf]/QUOTE]
> > 
> > But on this setup I don't have pcp dsdplay installed, as it is missing
> > from the extension list (I guess i can do a manual install, but can't be
> > arsed at the mo)
> > 
> > 32132
> > 
> > Switched the SBT to another pCP running 
> > 
> > > > > > > [Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.4 - 1603273368 @ Thu Oct 22 
> > > > > > > 04:21:56
> > > CEST 2020/QUOTE]
> > > 
> > > and PlayDSD setup like so
> > > 
> > > 32131
> > > 
> > > Plays like yours with buffering, so I connected an  ethernet cable,
> > > re-installed EDO and nothing would play.
> > > 
> > > So I pulled the plug on the Topping, put it back in to the power strip
> > > and it sprang to life.
> > > (this may sort your problem with the dac)
> > > 
> > > Still connect with usb, started with BBC Radio 2, switched to DSD and
> > > the files played without any buffering.
> > > 
> > > Changed to play a a Willie Nelson rip and got no sound, did the input
> > > switch and music played
> > > 
> > > I'm puzzled as when i play the Topping direct from a pi I do not have
> > > this promlem (although I did at first)
> > > 
> > > ronnie
> > > 
> > > off for a walk and lunch> > > > I am keen to learn how you fix the sample 
> > > rate issue. I have a pcp7
> > player to try when I get a round tuit. [emoji3]
> > 
> > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> LMS 8.0.0-1605106581
> RPi Buster desktop
> SB Touch with EDO
> USB to Topping E30
> 
> I posted on the audio science review forum but it seems nobody bothers
> to reply there unless you are one of their clique.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Oh, OK

If you connect the topping direct to the Buster rpi and select it as
main output (top right hand corner, left or right click on volume)

The open the browser and play from fip radio, bbc sounds (and the listen
again from the schedules) and radio paradise does it function correctly
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


So (still on usb) I changed the pcp 7 beta to lMS v 8.0.0 and nothing
would play

> [20-11-12 12:07:22.7591] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't 
> create command line for dff playback for 
> [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-038_stereo_01_01.dff]
> [20-11-12  12:08:27.3586] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't
> create  command line for dff playback for 
> [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-038_stereo_01_01.dff]
> [20-11-12  12:09:49.5060] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't
> create  command line for dsf playback for 
> [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-139_stereo_DSF_5644k_1b_01.dsf]
> [20-11-12  12:10:00.9911] Slim::Player::Song::open (413) Error: Couldn't
> create  command line for dsf playback for 
> [file:///mnt/Squeezebox/Squeezebox/Orchestral/2L-139_stereo_DSF_5644k_1b_01.dsf]/QUOTE]
> 
> But on this setup I don't have pcp dsdplay installed, as it is missing
> from the extension list (I guess i can do a manual install, but can't be
> arsed at the mo)
> 
> 32132
> 
> Switched the SBT to another pCP running 
> 
> > > > [Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.4 - 1603273368 @ Thu Oct 22 04:21:56
> > CEST 2020/QUOTE]
> > 
> > and PlayDSD setup like so
> > 
> > 32131
> > 
> > Plays like yours with buffering, so I connected an  ethernet cable,
> > re-installed EDO and nothing would play.
> > 
> > So I pulled the plug on the Topping, put it back in to the power strip
> > and it sprang to life.
> > (this may sort your problem with the dac)
> > 
> > Still connect with usb, started with BBC Radio 2, switched to DSD and
> > the files played without any buffering.
> > 
> > Changed to play a a Willie Nelson rip and got no sound, did the input
> > switch and music played
> > 
> > I'm puzzled as when i play the Topping direct from a pi I do not have
> > this promlem (although I did at first)
> > 
> > ronnie
> > 
> > off for a walk and lunch


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> So is your pathway
> 
> LMS (which version) on rpi (pCP which version) > SBTouch with EDO >
> Topping dac via usb.LMS 8.0.0-1605106581
RPi Buster desktop
SB Touch with EDO
USB to Topping E30

I posted on the audio science review forum but it seems nobody bothers
to reply there unless you are one of their clique.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


So is your pathway

LMS (which version) on rpi (pCP which version) > SBTouch with EDO >
Topping dac via usb.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I  discovered why the DSD64 file was breaking up, the stream was
> rebuffering. Seems odd as 24/192 FLAC plays OK.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkSwitching to Ethernet vastly improved 
> DSD64 playback. Maybe changing the
buffer size would help wireless. So my only remaining issue is no sound
when sampling rate changes when using USB which is v annoying.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> I have set up a rpi4b with the pcp 7beta this morning
> 
> Which version of LMS are you running ?
> 
> ronnieLatest 8.0.0

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread Man in a van


I have set up a rpi4b with the pcp 7beta this morning

Which version of LMS are you running ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-12 Thread slartibartfast


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Cycling through inputs works but not really practical. I also noticed
> that my single DSD file doesn't play properly. It plays with
> intermittent breaks when the bitrate display changes from something like
> 28.2 DSD to 176.4 PCM. That doesn't really bother me too much but is
> annoying as the same file played correctly on the standard Touch coax
> output. There are some other kernel choices but I have no idea if it is
> worth trying them.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkI did discovered why the DSD64 file was 
> breaking up, the stream was
rebuffering. Seems odd as 24/192 FLAC plays OK.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Ah ! 
> 
> I had forgotten you'r using the EDO on the Touch. (and which thread are
> we on, I ask myself :rolleyes: doh!!)
> 
> Can you set it up on a pi to  try and resolve the problems ?
> 
> It should then work OK on the Touch, which will need the DSD Player
> Plugin :oJust tried coax to the Topping and predictably the sampling frequency
issue disappears but my single DSF file doesn't play at all but I think
that is a limitation of the coax connection.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Use the switch on the dac to do thisThat was the first thing I did [emoji3]. 
> I haven't tried coax to the
Topping yet. I had this notion that USB was meant to be better.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Edvard wrote: 
> Topping e30?: check
> 
> Read the manual? check
> However, I don't understand (2) dsd filter setting. The dac is in 'dac
> mode'. But I can't figure out the right button combination / sequence to
> switch the dsd filter setting between 39 and 76 khz
> 
> Volume at 100%?: check
> 
> Hard reset?: check
> Just performed a hard reset as described.
> 
> Result: nothing changed. 
> 
> Since I have changed quite a few settings lately, I checked some more...
> 
> 
> (1) I checked the advanced settings for the playback of dsf. It was on
>  and changed it to  (I'm not sure if my translation to
> English is correct in this case..., but since I see this term on more
> occasions I think it's the right one)
> (2) At the music player section, I enabled 'Enable DSD-over-PCM' for the
> DSD-player.
> 
> Result: It works. Partly. Only dsd64 files. And all the flac's.
> 
> The automatic Hz change doesn't work. I have to switch to 'coax' (which
> isn't working) and back to 'usb' to hear music).
> And DSD128 and up don't 'work', I mean don't hear music.
> 
> Could the latter be a result of an improper 39 - 76 khz setting of the
> dac?
> 
> However, it's a major break through so far!

Hi Edvard did you ever fix the playback issue between different
bitrates? I see the same thing. I did find that muting and unmuting the
DAC restored the sound slightly more easily than switching inputs but
still not satisfactory. I also couldn't get a DSD64 file to play without
silent gaps.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Man in a van


Ah ! 

I had forgotten you'r using the EDO on the Touch. (and which thread are
we on, I ask myself :rolleyes: doh!!)

Can you set it up on a pi to  try and resolve the problems ?

It should then work OK on the Touch, which will need the DSD Player
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Well I typed this before seeing your edit
> 
> 
> Try this choose DAC output
> 
> play a streaming radio station
> 
> then start playing a stored music file
> 
> if the sound disappears flick the > and then < arrows on the remote
> 
> does the sound return ?
> 
> If not, cycle through all the inputs
> 
> It's too late to start messing now, but I can phone you tomorrow if you
> like
> 
> ronnie
> 
> another trick, whilst playing is to select the headphone output and then
> chang back to the line output (but your remote, although much the same
> as mine, has some buttons disabled).Cycling through inputs works but not 
> really practical. I also noticed
that my single DSD file doesn't play properly. It plays with
intermittent breaks when the bitrate display changes from something like
28.2 DSD to 176.4 PCM. That doesn't really bother me too much but is
annoying as the same file played correctly on the standard Touch coax
output. There are some other kernel choices but I have no idea if it is
worth trying them.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Man in a van


> Try this, choose DAC output
> 

Use the switch on the dac to do this



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I am having the same issue. Changing bit rate kills the sound. I can't
> see what I am doing wrong.
> 
> Edit. Interestingly muting and then unmuting the DAC restores the sound
> as well as switching inputs.
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Well I typed this before seeing your edit


Try this choose DAC output

play a streaming radio station

then start playing a stored music file

if the sound disappears flick the > and then < arrows on the remote

does the sound return ?

If not, cycle through all the inputs

It's too late to start messing now, but I can phone you tomorrow if you
like

ronnie

another trick, whilst playing is to select the headphone output and then
chang back to the line output (but your remote, although much the same
as mine, has some buttons disabled).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> Ah, well that was a combination of PBKAC and poor user instructions from
> Topping (or given the first reason, maybe the second was also confusion
> in my mind).
> 
> I simply failed to comprehend the setup instructions.
> 
> I can now flip between internet streaming, playing a music file and then
> a podcast sequentially on the usb input without any fannying around with
> the remote :o:o:o (hangs head in shame and shuffles off, stage left
> :confused::(:o:rolleyes::p).
> 
> ronnie
> 
> optical input now has a TV connected and the co-ax is using a Sonos
> Connect as source.I am having the same issue. Changing bit rate kills the 
> sound. I can't
see what I am doing wrong.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Thomasl47


Man in a van wrote: 
> Hi Thomas
> 
> apparently the device uses the xmos usb chip, so there is a good chance
> that it may be recognised by the Squeezebox Touch.
> 
> As always, "buyer beware", make sure thta you can return the device if
> it does not work (maybe check with the sellerbefore purchase for
> compatability and your right to return).
> 
> All the best :)
> 
> ronnie
> 
> And welcome to the forum :)

Thanks for your answer. So I will try and I will come back to say if
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> It went up to at least 0.7 or 0.8. Is yours on 0.1? My new DAC should
> arrive today so I can try it out [emoji3]. I also built a piCoreplayer 
> to compare with it.
> 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> What you get is what you get.  
> 
> I think there are missing versions (tweaked for specific problems /
> dacs)  somewhere in the ether, I seem to remember Ralphy making an
> appeal for copies.
> 
> ronnieActually thinking about it the available version is 0.10 which is likely
the version after 0.9. Doh!![emoji2357]

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> What you get is what you get.  
> 
> I think there are missing versions (tweaked for specific problems /
> dacs)  somewhere in the ether, I seem to remember Ralphy making an
> appeal for copies.
> 
> ronnieIt went up to at least 0.7 or 0.8. Is yours on 0.1? My new DAC should
arrive today so I can try it out [emoji3]. I also built a piCoreplayer 
to compare with it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I understood there had been updates to the applet but my version
> downloaded recently is version 0.1. What happened to later versions?
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

What you get is what you get.  

I think there are missing versions (tweaked for specific problems /
dacs)  somewhere in the ether, I seem to remember Ralphy making an
appeal for copies.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread slartibartfast


I understood there had been updates to the applet but my version
downloaded recently is version 0.1. What happened to later versions?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Man in a van


Hi Thomas

apparently the device uses the xmos usb chip, so there is a good chance
that it may be recognised by the Squeezebox Touch.

As always, "buyer beware", make sure thta you can return the device if
it does not work (maybe check with the sellerbefore purchase for
compatability and your right to return).

All the best :)

ronnie

And welcome to the forum :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Announce: Enhanced Digital Output app - USB Dac and 192k Digital Ouput

2020-11-11 Thread Thomasl47


Hello !

Excuse me but I don't speak a really good english so it's difficult for
me to read the thread but I want to know if xDuoo XD-05 Plus
(https://www.xduoo.net/product/xduoo-xd-05-plus/) can work on USB with
the squeezebox touch ? I don't see xDuoo products on the list so I'm not
sure... Thanks ! 

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