Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2012-06-21 Thread jean2

Hi,

I quickly tested the following two USB powered drives with the Touch :
Toshiba Canvio Basics 750 GB E05A075BAU2XK - formatted as EXT-3
Toshiba Canvio 1.0 TB USB 3.0 HDTC610XL3B1 - formatted as NTFS
(default)
Both seems to be working fine. I only did a quick test scanning a 9k
track collection. The ext3 formatted drives feels faster than my old 640
GB drive (which is now also ext3), and the NTFS feels slower, not a
scientific test.
On the 750 GB, smart monitoring was disabled, and I had to enable it
(under Linux using smarctl).
I was worried that the USB 3.0 drive would not work, especially that the
review complain a lot about flaky cable connector, but it seems to work
fine.

Also, my original Toshiba has now been attached to the Touch for over
two years 24/7, went through all the firmware upgrades, collection
updates, power outage, reformat to ext3, and it is still working fine.
I'm pleased.

Jean



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2011-11-01 Thread eddyther

Iomega Prestige 35192, 500 gb and usb 3.0.
Comes with extra usb port for extra power suply, but no need tu plug
with the touch.
Working well. I didn't try sleep mode. I have to dig a little bit on
that.
Very thin and silent... and aluminum black.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2011-10-31 Thread CranBerry

A few days ago I bought the USB powered WD Elements Portable SE 500GB
USB3.0 (WDBPCK5000ABK) external drive.
No problems. Drive spins down after a couple of time (I don't know
exactly when, but I think after 30 - 60 minutes) and works flawlessly
after a spin up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-12-08 Thread MrSpigot

I've been using a Seagate FreeAgent Go 250GB for several months. It's
small, light and very quiet. The drive sleeps with no problems, just a
few seconds delay on wake up. The period before sleeping can be
configured by attaching to a PC and running the Seagate config
software.
Just another option - it's not only Toshiba's that work!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-12-04 Thread jean2

iPhone;576550 Wrote: 
> I can second the Toshiba drives as not giving me any issues. I have a
> 320GB, a 500GB, a '640GB'
> (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0316591),
> and the new 'Canvio 1TB USB drive'
> (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0330202)
> all working well with Touch.

By the way, for those like me trying to keeping track of all those
Toshiba drives and all the technical details... Note that the specs on
Toshiba web site are not very helpful, so those are my guesses...

The original Toshiba external drives are still available in the
usual places and are well tested with the Touch. The drive has a single
wave on them. The largest 2 platter is 640GB, the 1T was a 3 platters
design.

The Canvio drives are also now well tested with the Touch and widely
available. The drives have fairly large squares on them. It looks like
the largest 2 platter is still 640GB (like the original Toshiba
external drives), the 750GB and 1T seems to be 3 platters designs.

However, I see that on the Toshiba web site there are new Canvio
models, the Canvio 3.0 and Canvio Basics, those seems to already
available in some places (but quite expensive). The 3.0 has very small
squares on them, the basic seems all black. Obviously, those have not
been tested with the Touch and I would like to have feedback on those
before recommending them, hopefully Toshiba did not change the formula.
The 3.0 is overkill for the Touch, as the Touch does not support USB
3.0, and I would worry about the encryption feature. For those drives,
it looks like the largest 2 platters is 750GB and only the 1TB is 3
platters.

Note that the number of bare/internal drives at 5400rpm on Toshiba
web site is much more limited, so I'm assuming that most of those
external drives use the same drive inside, and the only changes are the
enclosure and the software...

Good luck...

Jean


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-12-03 Thread RGibran

Today Only 12/03 the newer Toshiba Canvio 750GB model is featured on
eBay home page for $64.99 with free shipping!  They are going fast!!!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-11-30 Thread 808htfan

jean2;576469 Wrote: 
> I'm using a Toshiba 640GB 2.5" external hard drive, powered by the Touch
> USB bus. Model number HDDR640E04XK. I've been using it since April and
> the drive itself has not given me any trouble. Power saving even seems
> to works properly. The black model visually goes very well with the
> Touch, almost the same finish.
> 
> http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/ExternalHardDrives/USB_Portable_Ext_Hard_Drive

Just in case anyone is interested, Amazon has this 640GB Toshiba
(Black) for $66.34 at the moment.  I think the newer Toshiba Canivo
750GB was about $80.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-11-03 Thread Altec

Hi spamtom

Thanks very much - that is good info. I live in Europe so I can use
their guaranty if necessary.  I like that drive and it even looks nice
too so I think I just buy that one. Is it fast enough/the response time
ok and is it ready within a short time when you turn on the Touch? Does
it power up and down as it should so that it doesn't spin when you
don't use it?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-11-03 Thread spamtom

Hi Altec

I havnt looked into this thread for a while, so dont know if you will
see this now but the toshiba drive recomended in this thread is great.
I have used it now for 2 months and it works great. Its a 320gb, but
the range does go upto 600gb, so i dont see why a bigger size would not
work. If you live in europe you would get protected for 10days to send
back no matter the reason if it didnt work, although im not sure how
that stuff works in the states though. Here is the link on amazon to a
500gb version
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-HDDR500E04ER_CS-2-5-inch-Portable-External/dp/B002JM25BE/ref=pd_sim_computers_4

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-10-08 Thread Altec

Nice thread! I have the exact same question - I need a usb powered hard
drive, less than 500GB would do. So what should I buy, WD or Toshiba?
(or something else?) I googled some of the recommended hard drives and
got scared from all the bad reviews (I would like to keep my hard drive
for more than 6 months...). I need help, please! What about memory
sticks, cards etc. - is that an option and are they better for this
purpose? I would like one that is able to power down and one that just
works without delays and other problems.

Please post the full name of recommended hard drives incl. model number
so that I/we get the right one. Thanks! :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-24 Thread Scidd0w

Thank you for the reply.
I also ordered the Toshiba drive you have so all should be good! :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-23 Thread jean2

Scidd0w;578485 Wrote: 
> I still need to receive my touch but can this be set in the touch itself
> or do you need a special harddrive tool for this?

With the Toshiba, I did not have to do anything, it worked right out of
the box. I can't determine what is the spin down time, because the drive
is so quiet.

As far as I am aware, there does not seem to be any setting in the
Touch itself.

Good luck...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-23 Thread Scidd0w

thunderlips;578088 Wrote: 
> 
> [...]
> Mine is set to spin down after 10 minutes and I haven't had any trouble
> with it waking up when I go to use it.I still need to receive my touch but 
> can this be set in the touch itself
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-21 Thread thunderlips

I'm using a WD Passport and I've had no problems at all with it.

The drive has a partition that is seen as a virtual CD drive and that
needs to be disabled with the software that comes with the drive
otherwise it won't work properly with the Touch.

Mine is set to spin down after 10 minutes and I haven't had any trouble
with it waking up when I go to use it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-21 Thread Rikk

vinhattieu;576717 Wrote: 
> I am using a 640GB WD Element 2.5" and it works flawlessly.

does it go in power save (or sleep) or it's always on?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-19 Thread spamtom

JohnSwenson;577525 Wrote: 
> The bug lists a patch so it certainly seems like its being fixed. 
> 
> John S.

That is good news, even though its not officially supported im glad
enough people use it for them to look into fixing it.

jean2;577529 Wrote: 
> Just for your information, R8837 (7.5.1) was not any better in my
> testing.
> 
> If you have connectivity trouble and or range issues, you can try a
> 802.11 ethernet bridge as I suggest in my post about TinySB :
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070
> 
> Actually, I'm curious about something. People claim that Ethernet
> sounds better than 802.11, the most likely explanation is that 802.11
> requires more CPU and power. If you use a 802.11 Ethernet bridge, the
> Touch will use its Ethernet port, and not its 802.11 port. I'm curious
> about how using a 802.11 Ethernet bridge sounds compared to direct
> Ethernet or direct 802.11.
> 
> Have fun...
> 
> Jean

It seems this has brokd quite a few times judging by the comments on
the bug, so lets hope they fix it once and for all now.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-19 Thread guidof

Is the 1TB Canvio *-really-* quiet?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-18 Thread jean2

spamtom;576995 Wrote: 
> Only problem now is the beta tinysc firmware 7.6 R9113 wont let you play
> music from local usb if you dont plug a network cable in. LOL. i hope it
> isnt permenent change otherwise it kinda defeats the point of having a
> local USB port!!
> 

Just for your information, R8837 (7.5.1) was not any better in my
testing.

If you have connectivity trouble and or range issues, you can try a
802.11 ethernet bridge as I suggest in my post about TinySB :
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070

Actually, I'm curious about something. People claim that Ethernet
sounds better than 802.11, the most likely explanation is that 802.11
requires more CPU and power. If you use a 802.11 Ethernet bridge, the
Touch will use its Ethernet port, and not its 802.11 port. I'm curious
about how using a 802.11 Ethernet bridge sounds compared to direct
Ethernet or direct 802.11.

Have fun...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-18 Thread JohnSwenson

spamtom;577202 Wrote: 
> After all that hard work finding the right drive. I found out that
> networkless touch is not offically supported and firmware version 7.6
> stops you from playing music from a local USB drive if your device is
> not networked
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16552

The bug lists a patch so it certainly seems like its being fixed. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-18 Thread guidof

Is the 1TB Canvio *really* quiet?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-18 Thread dasmueller

And yet it appears that the Logitech website still speaks about using
the touch wo a network as noted on p12 of the Squeezebox Touch Features
Guide ??


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-17 Thread spamtom

After all that hard work finding the right drive. I found out that
networkless touch is not offically supported and firmware version 7.6
stops you from playing music from a local USB drive if your device is
not networked
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16552


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-16 Thread Adoto

I`ve been using a Seagate Expansion for the last months - no problems at
all. Had a (old) wd passport earlier with lots of trouble. I guess newer
ones works better, but for me seagate is thumbs up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-16 Thread spamtom

Well, fingers crossed the Toshiba drive mentioned earlier by Jean and
Iphone is working perfectly. 

I have 9300 Flac files with embedded artwork on the Toshiba
HDDR320E04EL 320GB drive. It took 45 minutes to scan (using beta
firmware 7.6 R9113)

Only problem now is the beta tinysc firmware 7.6 R9113 wont let you
play music from local usb if you dont plug a network cable in. LOL. i
hope it isnt permenent change otherwise it kinda defeats the point of
having a local USB port!!

Bug logged here http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16552


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-15 Thread vinhattieu

I am using a 640GB WD Element 2.5" and it works flawlessly.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-15 Thread Teus de Jong

I use a 1 Tb Toshiba STOR.E ART 3 without any problem. I suspect this is
the same drive as iPhone mentions as the Canvio 1Tb (looks the same; it
seems it is called Canvio in the US and STOR.E ART 3 in the EU).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-15 Thread spamtom

Cheers guys it's good to get some more posts. I am expecting my Toshiba
3260gb USB bus powered drive tomorrow morning, should be the same model
that Iphone and Jean are using. 

Just to add i have an old Western digital 250gb My Passport essential
(before they put all that hidden partition VCD rubbish on). It was
formated with one partition NTFS and also tried fat32. Both times the
drive would initially work but after i paused playback and then resumed
about 10 minutes later the drive would disconect from the touch and i
would need to reset the touch for it to recognize the drive again.
Drive model is WD2500MEB-00. Drive works fine on PS3 and pc so probably
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-14 Thread 808htfan

I have a USB powered Seagate 320GB ST903203FAA2E1-RK working with
TinySBS.  Got it from bestbuy.com, though they show ST903203FAA as the
model#. 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+FreeAgent+Go+320GB+External+USB+2.0+Portable+Hard+Drive+-+Black/8992664.p?id=1218007086869&skuId=8992664&st=ST903203FAA&cp=1&lp=1



I tried an older Western Digital WDMLB3200TN, one of the older Passport
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-14 Thread garym

iPhone;576550 Wrote: 
> I can second the Toshiba drives as not giving me any issues. I have a
> 320GB, a 500GB, a '640GB'
> (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0316591),
> and the new 'Canvio 1TB USB drive'
> (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0330202)
> all working well with Touch.

I have the Toshiba Canvio 1TB USB drive working.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-14 Thread iPhone

I can second the Toshiba drives as not giving me any issues. I have a
320GB, a 500GB, a '640GB'
(http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0316591),
and the new 'Canvio 1TB USB drive'
(http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0330202)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-14 Thread spamtom

I have been looking for the drive that was mentioned in the post above
but it appears to have a slightly different model number in the UK. In
the uk it appears to be HDDR640E04EL rather than HDDR640E04XK. I think
the last two digits may refer to color choice though as the only colour
i can find online in uk is Blue and black. I will order the 320gb from
amazon tomorrow and post my findings.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-HDDR320E04EL_CS-Portable-Protection-Encryption/dp/B002JM25A0/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1284489546&sr=1-1


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-14 Thread spamtom

Thanks for your reply Jean2. Worth looking into the toshiba's then. Like
yourself i prefer WD but to be honest i dont mind which drive as long as
i can get it working. Anyone else?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive

2010-09-14 Thread jean2

spamtom;576443 Wrote: 
> 
> I am hoping that people can post what USB drives (bus powered ONLY) in
> touch standalone mode they are using and if they are working.
> 

I'm using a Toshiba 640GB 2.5" external hard drive, powered by the
Touch USB bus. Model number HDDR640E04XK. I've been using it since
April and the drive itself has not given me any trouble. Power saving
even seems to works properly. The black model visually goes very well
with the Touch, almost the same finish.

http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Path=StorageSolutions/ExternalHardDrives/USB_Portable_Ext_Hard_Drive

I'm using a WD person when it comes to HDD, and normally I would not
have considered a Toshiba. The reason I bought the Toshiba is that like
you I did some research and it was recommended on those forums.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=538135&postcount=13
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=533525&postcount=27

The 640GB model is the largest 2 platter drive (as per Toshiba bare
drive specification), larger models use 3 platters, and therefore
likely more power. If I remember correctly, the spec for the bare drive
listed the startup power as fairly low, which may explain the good
success rate with those drives.

Other drives may work (see the threads listed above), I have not tried
them. Some of the more fancy HDDs have hidden partitions or the like
which seems to confuse the Touch, there are many threads about that on
the forums. Everything that has a Y USB connector is out of question,
obviously. Note that since I bought my drive, Toshiba seems to have
introduced a new model of external drives, called Canvio, I have no
experience with those.

There is a wiki page on this topic, but it's a bit of a mess :

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_-_USB_Compatibility

Note that selecting the proper HDD is only half the story, Tiny SB is
notoriously picky, as can be seen from the many thread. But it can be
made to work great, I'll probably write about that in the future.

Good luck...

Jean


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