[Touch-packages] [Bug 1887407] Re: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me
Life is hard. Please read messages carefully, and keep backups/snapshots. ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: New => Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887407 Title: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Opinion Bug description: I had TortoiseHG installed on my computer https://tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/download/linux.html After upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, then 19.10 and then 20.04 (I can't tell at what stage), it's GONE. Never was I asked if I was fine with that. I don't care if there's a conflict of packages or whatever, you don't just uninstall software like that without asking me for confirmation. And yes, at some point I guess I clicked Yes to something like "2387 packages will be installed, 8793 will be removed" or whatever. But if you are going to uninstall an application that I installed manually (as opposed to some library that I never chose to install), you have to give a very specific warning and prompt, one that I can't easily miss. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Now I wonder how many other programs, that I don't use that often (unlike THG with which I work on a daily basis) may be gone. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: apt 2.0.2ubuntu0.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-40.44-generic 5.4.44 Uname: Linux 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.3 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Mon Jul 13 17:55:51 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2466 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: apt UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to focal on 2020-07-12 (0 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1887407/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1887407] Re: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me
** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887407 Title: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: I had TortoiseHG installed on my computer https://tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/download/linux.html After upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, then 19.10 and then 20.04 (I can't tell at what stage), it's GONE. Never was I asked if I was fine with that. I don't care if there's a conflict of packages or whatever, you don't just uninstall software like that without asking me for confirmation. And yes, at some point I guess I clicked Yes to something like "2387 packages will be installed, 8793 will be removed" or whatever. But if you are going to uninstall an application that I installed manually (as opposed to some library that I never chose to install), you have to give a very specific warning and prompt, one that I can't easily miss. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Now I wonder how many other programs, that I don't use that often (unlike THG with which I work on a daily basis) may be gone. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: apt 2.0.2ubuntu0.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-40.44-generic 5.4.44 Uname: Linux 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.3 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Mon Jul 13 17:55:51 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2466 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: apt UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to focal on 2020-07-12 (0 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1887407/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1887407] Re: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me
> the upgrade gives you a chance to see the details you want. You were prompted with these screens, including the obsolete software screen, correct? Correct. As I said, not good enough. > Please be more specific about the exact changes you would like to see. Again as I said: for every individual application that you are going to remove that I installed manually (as opposed to it being installed as a dependency), you have to show an individual popup screen with a very scary warning. THEN, if you want, there you can add a checkbox like "apply to all" or whatever, where I can choose to accept in bulk after reviewing a list. OR simply change the "remove obsolete packages" prompt to make it more scary, so I get the impression that I seriously need to review the list. However, if the number is actually in the order of 86, you need to make it smaller to begin with, one way or another. Otherwise, even if I start to look at the list seriously, chances are I'll end up missing something or saying "well, whatever". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887407 Title: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: I had TortoiseHG installed on my computer https://tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/download/linux.html After upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, then 19.10 and then 20.04 (I can't tell at what stage), it's GONE. Never was I asked if I was fine with that. I don't care if there's a conflict of packages or whatever, you don't just uninstall software like that without asking me for confirmation. And yes, at some point I guess I clicked Yes to something like "2387 packages will be installed, 8793 will be removed" or whatever. But if you are going to uninstall an application that I installed manually (as opposed to some library that I never chose to install), you have to give a very specific warning and prompt, one that I can't easily miss. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Now I wonder how many other programs, that I don't use that often (unlike THG with which I work on a daily basis) may be gone. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: apt 2.0.2ubuntu0.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-40.44-generic 5.4.44 Uname: Linux 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.3 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Mon Jul 13 17:55:51 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2466 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: apt UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to focal on 2020-07-12 (0 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1887407/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1887407] Re: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me
First off, some background about why TortoiseHG was removed and why the PPA disappeared: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939258 https://foss.heptapod.net/mercurial/tortoisehg/thg/-/issues/5562 Second, the upgrade gives you a chance to see the details you want. You were prompted with these screens, including the obsolete software screen, correct? Screen 1 Do you want to start the upgrade? 36 installed packages are no longer supported by Canonical. You can still get support from the community. 13 packages are going to be removed. 246 new packages are going to be installed. 1256 packages are going to be upgraded. You have to download a total of 810 M. This download will take about 11 minutes with your connection. Installing the upgrade can take several hours. Once the download has finished, the process cannot be canceled. Continue [yN] Details [d] - Screen 2 -- Searching for obsolete software Reading state information... Done Remove obsolete packages? 86 packages are going to be removed. Continue [yN] Details [d] Please be more specific about the exact changes you would like to see. ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #939258 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=939258 ** Bug watch added: foss.heptapod.net/mercurial/tortoisehg/thg/-/issues #5562 https://foss.heptapod.net/mercurial/tortoisehg/thg/-/issues/5562 ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887407 Title: Distribution upgrade uninstalled TortoiseHG without asking me Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: I had TortoiseHG installed on my computer https://tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/download/linux.html After upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, then 19.10 and then 20.04 (I can't tell at what stage), it's GONE. Never was I asked if I was fine with that. I don't care if there's a conflict of packages or whatever, you don't just uninstall software like that without asking me for confirmation. And yes, at some point I guess I clicked Yes to something like "2387 packages will be installed, 8793 will be removed" or whatever. But if you are going to uninstall an application that I installed manually (as opposed to some library that I never chose to install), you have to give a very specific warning and prompt, one that I can't easily miss. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Now I wonder how many other programs, that I don't use that often (unlike THG with which I work on a daily basis) may be gone. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 Package: apt 2.0.2ubuntu0.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-40.44-generic 5.4.44 Uname: Linux 5.4.0-40-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.3 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: skip CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Mon Jul 13 17:55:51 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-10-11 (2466 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.04 "Raring Ringtail" - Release amd64 (20130424) SourcePackage: apt UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to focal on 2020-07-12 (0 days ago) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1887407/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp