Re: [translate-pootle] Better integration in existing Webdesign?

2008-10-22 Thread F Wolff
On Ma, 2008-10-20 at 16:37 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Hello,

Hallo Michelle

(please realise that you might miss some replies while not subscribed to
the list)

 I have a development Website and want to integrate pootle into  it,  but
 since it is a standalone application I am running into trouble with it.
 
 I like to see a subdirectory /pootle/ on my website which I have already
 done using apache2 reverse proxy capabilities,  but  now  I  have  other
 problems since pootle is pinting always to / and not /pootle/.
 
 So my suggestion is, to use only relative pathes.

If I understand correctly, you want to have a look at the setting of
baseurl in pootle.prefs


 The second thing I dislike is the design of pootle.  I like to  see  the
 HARDCODED HTML droped and go for CSS.

Since we are using CSS, I think you'll have to be more specific with
exactly what you'd like to see. Feel free to get involved with the
current interface work - lots of people are contributing to improve the
interface.


 Currently I am hacking the sourcecode of the pootle server to make a PHP
 (on request) application from it,  since  my  VServer/VHosts  (@Hosting-
 Provider which use Gentoo) does not allow me to run pootle as standalone
 application.

We hope to address this reasonably soon by migrating to a new web
framework. The current Pootle can be run under mod_python. I haven't
done it personally, though.

 The hardest thing was to parse the strings from the po files and  now  I
 have a question to it:
 
 WHY does pootle do not accept *.pot files since they are  the  TEMPLATES
 for the translation?

I'm not sure what you mean with parse the strings from the po files. 

Where exactly are the templates not accepted?

 Another thing is, if I setup a project dummy  and  add  the  languages
 de and fr, WHY do I have to upload the template for each  language
 seperately?
 
 I find this realy annoying, since normaly one would ONLY upload the  POT
 file which then is copied into a PO file which then will be translated.

I'm not sure what you are trying to do here. In the normal directory
layout, you will have a directory for each language (de, fr, etc.) and
templates where the pot file(s) will go. In the project administration
page, you can update selected languages to the new templates as you
want.

Keep well
Friedel

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[translate-pootle] Pootle 1.2 not starting

2008-10-22 Thread dl7und
Hi,

I am trying something similar to what Michelle is just doing, and I too ran 
into a few problems: I installed Pootle 1.2, translate-toolkit 1.2 and jtoolkit 
0.7.8 into a user webspace.

Unfortunately, this is a virtual account, so I have not found a way to export 
paths automagically (.bashrc) each time I log in. Another problem is that 
according to the docs, I need to start PootleServer by hand, which is not very 
convenient when the server gets rebooted.

But my current main problem is: I got Pootle started once, modified 
pootle.prefs and then I got this error, which seems pretty unrelated, but does 
not go away:

2008-10-22 14:41:22: Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jToolkit/web/simplewebserver.py, line 
613, in getserver
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jToolkit/web/__init__.py, line 160, 
in getserverwithprefs
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jToolkit/prefs.py, line 428, in 
parsefile
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jToolkit/prefs.py, line 419, in parse
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jToolkit/prefs.py, line 356, in 
parseassignments
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/jToolkit/sparse.py, line 225, in 
raiseerror
ParserError: indent without preceding : at line 31, char 35 (token indent(1))

2008-10-22 14:41:22: Error initializing server, exiting: indent without 
preceding : at line 31, char 35 (token indent(1))

Does anyone have an idea what is going on here and how to get this fixed? I 
must admit I don't know anything about Python...

Regards,

Olaf

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Re: [translate-pootle] Pootle 1.2 not starting

2008-10-22 Thread F Wolff
On Wo, 2008-10-22 at 14:55 +0800, dl7und wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am trying something similar to what Michelle is just doing, and I
 too ran into a few problems: I installed Pootle 1.2, translate-toolkit
 1.2 and jtoolkit 0.7.8 into a user webspace.
 
 Unfortunately, this is a virtual account, so I have not found a way to
 export paths automagically (.bashrc) each time I log in. Another
 problem is that according to the docs, I need to start PootleServer by
 hand, which is not very convenient when the server gets rebooted.

I agree that the current setup is not ideal. As mentioned to Michelle,
an improvement is in the pipeline.

 
 But my current main problem is: I got Pootle started once, modified
 pootle.prefs and then I got this error, which seems pretty unrelated,
 but does not go away:
...

 2008-10-22 14:41:22: Error initializing server, exiting: indent
 without preceding : at line 31, char 35 (token indent(1))
 
 Does anyone have an idea what is going on here and how to get this
 fixed? I must admit I don't know anything about Python...
 
 Regards,
 
 Olaf

Check the file syntax of pootle.prefs with specific attention to the
indentation around line 31. If your file is still similar to the one
distributed with the software, my guess is you have a tab or some extra
spaces before '  title = Pootle '

I hope that helps.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Pootle 1.2 not starting

2008-10-22 Thread dl7und
Check the file syntax of pootle.prefs with specific attention to the
indentation around line 31. If your file is still similar to the one
distributed with the software, my guess is you have a tab or some extra
spaces before '  title = Pootle '

I hope that helps.

It did indeed, thanks! I was always wondering where that mysterious syntax 
problem should be, because it was not really obvious from the error message. 
Yes, I deleted leading spaces from a number of settings and now got another 
error, which probably not points to pootle.prefs:

AttributeError: 'super' object has no attribute 'languages'

2008-10-22 17:18:08: Error initializing server, exiting: 'super' object has no 
attribute 'languages'

And again I'm clueless...

Regards,

Olaf

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Re: [translate-pootle] Pootle 1.2 not starting

2008-10-22 Thread F Wolff
On Wo, 2008-10-22 at 17:27 +0800, dl7und wrote:
 Check the file syntax of pootle.prefs with specific attention to the
 indentation around line 31. If your file is still similar to the one
 distributed with the software, my guess is you have a tab or some
 extra
 spaces before '  title = Pootle '
 
 I hope that helps.
 
 It did indeed, thanks! I was always wondering where that mysterious
 syntax problem should be, because it was not really obvious from the
 error message. Yes, I deleted leading spaces from a number of settings
 and now got another error, which probably not points to pootle.prefs:
 
 AttributeError: 'super' object has no attribute 'languages'
 
 2008-10-22 17:18:08: Error initializing server, exiting: 'super'
 object has no attribute 'languages'
 
 And again I'm clueless...
 
 Regards,
 
 Olaf

If you are able to provide some more debugging information, it will help
a lot to pinpoint the issue. Please see this page for instructions:
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/tracebacks

My guess is that there is a problem in pootle.prefs with the languages
section - just compare your indentation with the default file
distributed with the software.

Friedel

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Re: [translate-pootle] Better integration in existing Webdesign?

2008-10-22 Thread Leandro Regueiro
 The second thing I dislike is the design of pootle.  I like to  see  the
 HARDCODED HTML droped and go for CSS.

 Since we are using CSS, I think you'll have to be more specific with
 exactly what you'd like to see. Feel free to get involved with the
 current interface work - lots of people are contributing to improve the
 interface.

Are there graphical themes for Pootle?

Bye,
  Leandro Regueiro

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Re: [translate-pootle] Better integration in existing Webdesign?

2008-10-22 Thread F Wolff
On Wo, 2008-10-22 at 15:10 +0200, Leandro Regueiro wrote:
  The second thing I dislike is the design of pootle.  I like to  see  the
  HARDCODED HTML droped and go for CSS.
 
  Since we are using CSS, I think you'll have to be more specific with
  exactly what you'd like to see. Feel free to get involved with the
  current interface work - lots of people are contributing to improve the
  interface.
 
 Are there graphical themes for Pootle?

There are no alternative prepackaged themes, but several sites have
customised the look for their projects.  Have a look at some of the
public Pootle servers out there:
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/live_servers
(many also use the default styling, of course)

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Re: [translate-pootle] Better integration in existing Webdesign?

2008-10-22 Thread Leandro Regueiro
 It can be done, but at the moment you would have to modify the kid
 templates.

 Good skin support would be great and we would be very glad for any
 contributions towards infrastructure to deal with this.

 One idea is to split the current templates so that we have layout
 templates (which can be used to create skins) and templates which hold
 all the rest of the info.

 I can't commit to such a project at the moment, but would gladly supply
 advice and help to anyone who's keen to attack it.

I know what I want, and that I think the users will like, but I
haven't the knowledge to do that alone (I haven't never installed
Pootle, but I use it, and I dislike a lot its appearance). Anyone
willing to do this?

Bye,
Leandro Regueiro

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