Re: [translate-pootle] Join us in our first hack week

2012-09-20 Thread Dwayne Bailey
I'm really excited about this!

I'm going to working on the review of the Pootle docs and the localisation
of those.  With a great product we need great docs so I want to go through
those and make sure they are up-to-date for Pootle.  Since Pootle is about
localisation I really want to tackle the localisation aspect.  If you feel
like helping I'd love your input, you could.  Read the docs and make notes
of any issues or missing features. Localise the docs when I get that part
up.  Help me work out how we can consistently take localised screenshots.

So hopefully I can get some help from you next week.

On 20 September 2012 11:02, Julen Ruiz Aizpuru jul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi people,

 We are going to carry out an experiment next week by holding our first
 hack week.

 At this time our work will be focused on improving documentation,
 creating a theme for Sphinx, building a new static website for our
 software, and improving our Translation Memory server (amaGama).

 As you see we will be shifting our usual work area to focus on other
 things that also need attention but due to daily commitments it's
 impossible for us to work on them.

 Needless to say, we would love to see you join us during the next week.
 We can be reached in our usual communication channels, but most directly
 on IRC (#pootle on FreeNode). Our timezone is UTC+2.

 Want to know how you can contribute? You can learn more in the following
 page:

 http://translate.readthedocs.org/projects/pootle/en/latest/developers/contributing.html

 For the details and ongoing activity, you can reach the specific bugs in
 the following address (more to come probably):
 http://tinyurl.com/translate-hack-week

 Remember, from the 24th of September until the 28th, you can join us
 whenever you want to help us improve in the described areas.

 See you soon!
 Julen.


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Re: [translate-pootle] Join us in our first hack week

2012-09-20 Thread Leandro Regueiro
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Dwayne Bailey dwa...@translate.org.za wrote:
 I'm really excited about this!

 I'm going to working on the review of the Pootle docs and the localisation
 of those.  With a great product we need great docs so I want to go through
 those and make sure they are up-to-date for Pootle.  Since Pootle is about
 localisation I really want to tackle the localisation aspect.  If you feel
 like helping I'd love your input, you could.  Read the docs and make notes
 of any issues or missing features. Localise the docs when I get that part
 up.  Help me work out how we can consistently take localised screenshots.

Would it be possible to translate the docs using a format like PO?

Bye

 So hopefully I can get some help from you next week.

 On 20 September 2012 11:02, Julen Ruiz Aizpuru jul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi people,

 We are going to carry out an experiment next week by holding our first
 hack week.

 At this time our work will be focused on improving documentation,
 creating a theme for Sphinx, building a new static website for our
 software, and improving our Translation Memory server (amaGama).

 As you see we will be shifting our usual work area to focus on other
 things that also need attention but due to daily commitments it's
 impossible for us to work on them.

 Needless to say, we would love to see you join us during the next week.
 We can be reached in our usual communication channels, but most directly
 on IRC (#pootle on FreeNode). Our timezone is UTC+2.

 Want to know how you can contribute? You can learn more in the following
 page:

 http://translate.readthedocs.org/projects/pootle/en/latest/developers/contributing.html

 For the details and ongoing activity, you can reach the specific bugs in
 the following address (more to come probably):
 http://tinyurl.com/translate-hack-week

 Remember, from the 24th of September until the 28th, you can join us
 whenever you want to help us improve in the described areas.

 See you soon!
 Julen.


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Re: [translate-pootle] Join us in our first hack week

2012-09-20 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On 20 September 2012 12:01, Leandro Regueiro leandro.regue...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Dwayne Bailey dwa...@translate.org.za
 wrote:
  I'm really excited about this!
 
  I'm going to working on the review of the Pootle docs and the
 localisation
  of those.  With a great product we need great docs so I want to go
 through
  those and make sure they are up-to-date for Pootle.  Since Pootle is
 about
  localisation I really want to tackle the localisation aspect.  If you
 feel
  like helping I'd love your input, you could.  Read the docs and make
 notes
  of any issues or missing features. Localise the docs when I get that part
  up.  Help me work out how we can consistently take localised screenshots.

 Would it be possible to translate the docs using a format like PO?


Yes, PO is the format I'm aim aiming at using for the localisation.



 Bye

  So hopefully I can get some help from you next week.
 
  On 20 September 2012 11:02, Julen Ruiz Aizpuru jul...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi people,
 
  We are going to carry out an experiment next week by holding our first
  hack week.
 
  At this time our work will be focused on improving documentation,
  creating a theme for Sphinx, building a new static website for our
  software, and improving our Translation Memory server (amaGama).
 
  As you see we will be shifting our usual work area to focus on other
  things that also need attention but due to daily commitments it's
  impossible for us to work on them.
 
  Needless to say, we would love to see you join us during the next week.
  We can be reached in our usual communication channels, but most directly
  on IRC (#pootle on FreeNode). Our timezone is UTC+2.
 
  Want to know how you can contribute? You can learn more in the following
  page:
 
 
 http://translate.readthedocs.org/projects/pootle/en/latest/developers/contributing.html
 
  For the details and ongoing activity, you can reach the specific bugs in
  the following address (more to come probably):
  http://tinyurl.com/translate-hack-week
 
  Remember, from the 24th of September until the 28th, you can join us
  whenever you want to help us improve in the described areas.
 
  See you soon!
  Julen.
 
 
 
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Re: [translate-pootle] Join us in our first hack week

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Julen Ruiz Aizpuru jul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi people,

 We are going to carry out an experiment next week by holding our first
 hack week.

 At this time our work will be focused on improving documentation,
 creating a theme for Sphinx, building a new static website for our
 software, and improving our Translation Memory server (amaGama).

 As you see we will be shifting our usual work area to focus on other
 things that also need attention but due to daily commitments it's
 impossible for us to work on them.

 Needless to say, we would love to see you join us during the next week.
 We can be reached in our usual communication channels, but most directly
 on IRC (#pootle on FreeNode). Our timezone is UTC+2.

 Want to know how you can contribute? You can learn more in the following
 page:
 http://translate.readthedocs.org/projects/pootle/en/latest/developers/contributing.html

 For the details and ongoing activity, you can reach the specific bugs in
 the following address (more to come probably):
 http://tinyurl.com/translate-hack-week

 Remember, from the 24th of September until the 28th, you can join us
 whenever you want to help us improve in the described areas.

 See you soon!
 Julen.


As this hack week has a certain housekeeping theme to it, you might
consider adding a scheduled hour or two for an IRC moderated bug-scrub
of Bugzilla.  It's good to clear the cobwebs out of the tracker from
time to time and I suspect there are a few dust-bunnies lingering in
Bugzilla (there always are in even the tidiest of projects).  And you
might come across one or two that you'll want to add to your list.
Just a thought.

cjl

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Re: [translate-pootle] Join us in our first hack week

2012-09-20 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On 20 September 2012 16:15, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Julen Ruiz Aizpuru jul...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi people,
 
  We are going to carry out an experiment next week by holding our first
  hack week.
 
  At this time our work will be focused on improving documentation,
  creating a theme for Sphinx, building a new static website for our
  software, and improving our Translation Memory server (amaGama).
 
  As you see we will be shifting our usual work area to focus on other
  things that also need attention but due to daily commitments it's
  impossible for us to work on them.
 
  Needless to say, we would love to see you join us during the next week.
  We can be reached in our usual communication channels, but most directly
  on IRC (#pootle on FreeNode). Our timezone is UTC+2.
 
  Want to know how you can contribute? You can learn more in the following
  page:
 
 http://translate.readthedocs.org/projects/pootle/en/latest/developers/contributing.html
 
  For the details and ongoing activity, you can reach the specific bugs in
  the following address (more to come probably):
  http://tinyurl.com/translate-hack-week
 
  Remember, from the 24th of September until the 28th, you can join us
  whenever you want to help us improve in the described areas.
 
  See you soon!
  Julen.


 As this hack week has a certain housekeeping theme to it, you might
 consider adding a scheduled hour or two for an IRC moderated bug-scrub
 of Bugzilla.  It's good to clear the cobwebs out of the tracker from
 time to time and I suspect there are a few dust-bunnies lingering in
 Bugzilla (there always are in even the tidiest of projects).  And you
 might come across one or two that you'll want to add to your list.
 Just a thought.



Hey Chris, any theme is purely accidental :) The bugs and features that
hackers have chosen is whatever really interests them. I really like you
idea.  Any chance you could make that your hack-week contribution ;)

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Re: [translate-pootle] Join us in our first hack week

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Dwayne Bailey dwa...@translate.org.za wrote:
 I'm really excited about this!

 I'm going to working on the review of the Pootle docs and the localisation
 of those.  With a great product we need great docs so I want to go through
 those and make sure they are up-to-date for Pootle.  Since Pootle is about
 localisation I really want to tackle the localisation aspect.  If you feel
 like helping I'd love your input, you could.  Read the docs and make notes
 of any issues or missing features. Localise the docs when I get that part
 up.  Help me work out how we can consistently take localised screenshots.

 So hopefully I can get some help from you next week.

Dwayne,

You might be able to get some inspiration from looking at this
FLOSSManuals text:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/open-translation-tools/index/

Yes much of it is about tools besides Pootle and Translate Toolkit,
but they are also covered. Even reading sections about other tools
might give you ideas on how to improve the Pootle documentation.

There is also a Chapter on translating images that might give you some
ideas on the localized screenshots challenge.

I can imagine two approaches to the screenshot challenge:

1) Setting up a little screenshot bot to run through all of the
relevant langs and capturing and saving many individual screenshot
images with lang-code prefixes or suffixes.  Leveraging an
accessibility tool like Orca for it's ability to automatically perform
keyboard and mouse input actions that otherwise would require manual
intervention is one possibility.  It is my understanding that some
people use ally tools in this way for automated testing  development.
The point is if you need to perform a repeated series of mouse and
keyboard actions to get to the section of a program (or website) that
you want to then act on (e.g. confirm lack of error message or take a
screenshot), it is possible to script this series of mouse and
keyboard inputs with a tool like Orca (or other tool).

For example Dogtail
https://fedorahosted.org/dogtail/
uses ally tools in this way for automated testing.

2) Or an alternative approach that is probably no less technically
daunting.  That is the idea of taking a screenshot in one language as
an SVG and then using tools to localize the SVG.


Just some thoughts.

cjl

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