Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-13 Thread F Wolff
On Wo, 2008-08-13 at 12:46 +0200, Julen wrote:
> 
> > I have another request if it is easy to do: when I conduct a search
> and
> > arrive at the first result, and then click on the search field, the
> > search term is removed - not nice if I just wanted to slightly edit
> the
> > search. This is not a big issue though, and might be what people
> wanted.
> > I would like to hear what people think.
> 
> Sure, totally agree. I think this will be ready in a few minutes (when
> I update beta with this and the suggestions stuff).
> 
> Julen.

Ok, I tested a few more things. Here are a few more cases you might want
to look at.

Go to
http://beta.locamotion.org/af/pootle/pootle.po?translate=1&searchtext=
Search for "bou". That unit has suggestions that are shown during
translations, but not when you arrive through this search.

Another issue is Konqueror (I have 3.5.9). If I click on the arrow to
get the advanced search form, the form only appears on the second click,
and after that the arrow direction is the wrong way round every time. It
works on Safari, however.

The advanced search form is totally misplaced in Opera while using the
Arabic interface - no idea why though.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-13 Thread F Wolff
On Wo, 2008-08-13 at 12:46 +0200, Julen wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:39 AM, F Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Ma, 2008-08-11 at 16:00 +0200, F Wolff wrote:
> >> On Wo, 2008-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Julen wrote:
> >> > Hi list,
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >> Well done on these, Julen.
> >>
> >> The changes look quite good in Firefox, but as we already discussed,
> >> there seems to be some problems with most other browsers. Those of you
> >> on Opera, IE or Konqueror might want to help us sort this out. The
> >> dropdown is not positioned correctly on IE, and all the other browsers
> >> have a larger bounding area around the search form.
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> Friedel
> >
> > It seems the issue on other browsers are now mostly fixed. The issue of
> > indicating non-default search fields remains, and this is my suggested
> > idea:
> > 
> > div.nodefaultsearch {
> >   background-color: #f1f3f5 !important;
> > +  border: 1px solid #b0d6de;
> >  }
> >
> > (I have it currently running on beta.locamotion.org.) It just adds a
> > coloured border around the search field in addition to the change in
> > background colour.
> 
> Personally I don't like this border. I think the color change is
> noticeable enough, since the non-default color is clearly lighter than
> the default gray.

For me, it is not clear enough, even with the border I add. I guess it
depends on how subtle we believe it should be. I think it is difficult
to deduce information from the gradient of grey on a grey background -
we'll need something more. I'm not particularly fond of my blue border -
it was just an idea.

Keep well
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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-13 Thread Julen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:39 AM, F Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Ma, 2008-08-11 at 16:00 +0200, F Wolff wrote:
>> On Wo, 2008-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Julen wrote:
>> > Hi list,
>
> ...
>
>
>> Well done on these, Julen.
>>
>> The changes look quite good in Firefox, but as we already discussed,
>> there seems to be some problems with most other browsers. Those of you
>> on Opera, IE or Konqueror might want to help us sort this out. The
>> dropdown is not positioned correctly on IE, and all the other browsers
>> have a larger bounding area around the search form.
>
> ...
>
>> Friedel
>
> It seems the issue on other browsers are now mostly fixed. The issue of
> indicating non-default search fields remains, and this is my suggested
> idea:
> 
> div.nodefaultsearch {
>   background-color: #f1f3f5 !important;
> +  border: 1px solid #b0d6de;
>  }
>
> (I have it currently running on beta.locamotion.org.) It just adds a
> coloured border around the search field in addition to the change in
> background colour.

Personally I don't like this border. I think the color change is
noticeable enough, since the non-default color is clearly lighter than
the default gray.

> I have another request if it is easy to do: when I conduct a search and
> arrive at the first result, and then click on the search field, the
> search term is removed - not nice if I just wanted to slightly edit the
> search. This is not a big issue though, and might be what people wanted.
> I would like to hear what people think.

Sure, totally agree. I think this will be ready in a few minutes (when
I update beta with this and the suggestions stuff).

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-12 Thread F Wolff
On Ma, 2008-08-11 at 16:00 +0200, F Wolff wrote:
> On Wo, 2008-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Julen wrote:
> > Hi list,

...


> Well done on these, Julen.
> 
> The changes look quite good in Firefox, but as we already discussed,
> there seems to be some problems with most other browsers. Those of you
> on Opera, IE or Konqueror might want to help us sort this out. The
> dropdown is not positioned correctly on IE, and all the other browsers
> have a larger bounding area around the search form.

...

> Friedel

It seems the issue on other browsers are now mostly fixed. The issue of
indicating non-default search fields remains, and this is my suggested
idea:

div.nodefaultsearch {
   background-color: #f1f3f5 !important;
+  border: 1px solid #b0d6de;
 }

(I have it currently running on beta.locamotion.org.) It just adds a
coloured border around the search field in addition to the change in
background colour.

I have another request if it is easy to do: when I conduct a search and
arrive at the first result, and then click on the search field, the
search term is removed - not nice if I just wanted to slightly edit the
search. This is not a big issue though, and might be what people wanted.
I would like to hear what people think.

Keep well
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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-11 Thread F Wolff
On Wo, 2008-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Julen wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I've set up beta.locamotion.org with the ability to search for fields
> (source, target, comments, and locations). It works both with and
> without indexer -- the server is running with Xapian, though.
> 
> I'd be very happy if you take a little bit of time to test this and
> report any issues you find. Please note that since new fields are
> being indexed, Pootle needs to rebuild all the indexing databases so
> it may take a little bit of time, specially for large projects like
> OpenOffice.org. I've deleted all the old databases under
> ".translation_index", but If you think an obvious search isn't
> working, please let me know so I can check for corrupted databases.
> 
> Any more comments/contributions regarding the interface or anything
> you see appropriate is welcome, of course. You can checkout the code
> from the branch at my github repository[1].
> 
> Friedel: this setup removes previously applied patches on
> beta.locamotion.org (suggestions + unfuzzy), so if you need some of
> that stuff, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Julen.
> 
> [1] http://github.com/julen/pootle/tree/search_enhancements

Well done on these, Julen.

The changes look quite good in Firefox, but as we already discussed,
there seems to be some problems with most other browsers. Those of you
on Opera, IE or Konqueror might want to help us sort this out. The
dropdown is not positioned correctly on IE, and all the other browsers
have a larger bounding area around the search form.

I would suggest that we keep the suggestions and unfuzzy code deployed
on beta for maximum exposure. Anybody else with Pootle patches they want
to test on this machine?

Friedel


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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-11 Thread F Wolff
On Do, 2008-08-07 at 11:23 +0200, Lars Kruse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > >> Anyway, server up and running now.
> > >
> > > Still down. The memory issue on indexing is a concern.
> 
> I did some tests regarding this issue. The outcome was, that indexing causes
> all of the po files to be loaded. These files partly stay in memory (cached),
> thus eating it up while creating an index of a project like openoffice.
> So: the basic problem is the growing cache. During an index rebuild the 
> problem
> is just more likely to be triggered than under usual circumstances.
> 
> @Friedel: please correct me, if I my poor memory mixed something up ...
> 

Yes, sounds right.

> 
> > The same problem again. We should consider giving the option to build
> > indexes when Pootle is not running
> 
> yes - that would be a highly desirable feature.
> 
PootleServer has a --refreshstats. We could do something similar for the
search indexes.


F


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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-11 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 13:10 +0200, Julen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 19:24 +0200, Julen wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Now some comments about the changes.
> >> >
> >> > It works :)
> >> >
> >> > One issue, I only tested this in view mode, when you click Skip the
> >> > dropdown briefly appears before hiding again - it should stay hidden.
> >
> > List doesn't appear.
> 
> List? which list?
> 
> >  But I search for e.g. 'file' I start with the
> > following:
> >
> > [Search  ]
> > [file]
> >
> > I hit Return and the widget grows left to become:
> >
> > Search []
> >
> > then when the page loads it returns to
> >
> > [Search   ]
> >
> > The search functionality continue to work though.  Not sure if the
> > disappearing text is a bug that already existed in Pootle.
> 
> That's because of the JavaScript code. Anyhow, we're using
> document.ready[1] from jQuery so that shouldn't happen -- code should
> run as soon as the DOM is loaded and before the page contents are
> loaded.
> 
> I'll try to figure out what's wrong with this...
> 
> >> > One suggestion, it might be good to show the search widget in a slightly
> >> > different colour if anything but the normal source+target are in
> >> > operation.
> >>
> >> Both done and ready on beta.
> >
> > Still stayed the same colour :(
> 
> Look at the colour codes, please ;)
> I can put a distinguishing eye-burning red color, but you asked for a
> _slightly_ different colour. If you have any suggestions on colours,
> please provide the hex code :)

Maybe eye-burning would be good so I can at least see the subtle
change! ;) At the moment i.e. sometime this weekend I couldn't see any
subtle changes, so I'm either very bad at subtle colour (most likely) or
it isn't working on my browser.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-08 Thread Julen
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Julen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 19:24 +0200, Julen wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > One issue, I only tested this in view mode, when you click Skip the
>>> > dropdown briefly appears before hiding again - it should stay hidden.
>>
>> List doesn't appear.
>
> List? which list?
>
>>  But I search for e.g. 'file' I start with the
>> following:
>>
>> [Search  ]
>> [file]
>>
>> I hit Return and the widget grows left to become:
>>
>> Search []
>>
>> then when the page loads it returns to
>>
>> [Search   ]
>>
>> The search functionality continue to work though.  Not sure if the
>> disappearing text is a bug that already existed in Pootle.
>
> That's because of the JavaScript code. Anyhow, we're using
> document.ready[1] from jQuery so that shouldn't happen -- code should
> run as soon as the DOM is loaded and before the page contents are
> loaded.
>
> I'll try to figure out what's wrong with this...

Fixed and ready on beta.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-08 Thread Julen
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 19:24 +0200, Julen wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Now some comments about the changes.
>> >
>> > It works :)
>> >
>> > One issue, I only tested this in view mode, when you click Skip the
>> > dropdown briefly appears before hiding again - it should stay hidden.
>
> List doesn't appear.

List? which list?

>  But I search for e.g. 'file' I start with the
> following:
>
> [Search  ]
> [file]
>
> I hit Return and the widget grows left to become:
>
> Search []
>
> then when the page loads it returns to
>
> [Search   ]
>
> The search functionality continue to work though.  Not sure if the
> disappearing text is a bug that already existed in Pootle.

That's because of the JavaScript code. Anyhow, we're using
document.ready[1] from jQuery so that shouldn't happen -- code should
run as soon as the DOM is loaded and before the page contents are
loaded.

I'll try to figure out what's wrong with this...

>> > One suggestion, it might be good to show the search widget in a slightly
>> > different colour if anything but the normal source+target are in
>> > operation.
>>
>> Both done and ready on beta.
>
> Still stayed the same colour :(

Look at the colour codes, please ;)
I can put a distinguishing eye-burning red color, but you asked for a
_slightly_ different colour. If you have any suggestions on colours,
please provide the hex code :)


Julen.

[1] http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials:Introducing_$(document).ready()

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-08 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 19:24 +0200, Julen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now some comments about the changes.
> >
> > It works :)
> >
> > One issue, I only tested this in view mode, when you click Skip the
> > dropdown briefly appears before hiding again - it should stay hidden.

List doesn't appear.  But I search for e.g. 'file' I start with the
following:

[Search  ]
[file]

I hit Return and the widget grows left to become:

Search [] 

then when the page loads it returns to 

[Search   ]

The search functionality continue to work though.  Not sure if the
disappearing text is a bug that already existed in Pootle.

> > One suggestion, it might be good to show the search widget in a slightly
> > different colour if anything but the normal source+target are in
> > operation.
> 
> Both done and ready on beta.

Still stayed the same colour :(

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-07 Thread Julen
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now some comments about the changes.
>
> It works :)
>
> One issue, I only tested this in view mode, when you click Skip the
> dropdown briefly appears before hiding again - it should stay hidden.
>
> One suggestion, it might be good to show the search widget in a slightly
> different colour if anything but the normal source+target are in
> operation.

Both done and ready on beta.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-07 Thread Dwayne Bailey
Now some comments about the changes.

It works :)

One issue, I only tested this in view mode, when you click Skip the
dropdown briefly appears before hiding again - it should stay hidden.

One suggestion, it might be good to show the search widget in a slightly
different colour if anything but the normal source+target are in
operation.

On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Julen wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I've set up beta.locamotion.org with the ability to search for fields
> (source, target, comments, and locations). It works both with and
> without indexer -- the server is running with Xapian, though.
> 
> I'd be very happy if you take a little bit of time to test this and
> report any issues you find. Please note that since new fields are
> being indexed, Pootle needs to rebuild all the indexing databases so
> it may take a little bit of time, specially for large projects like
> OpenOffice.org. I've deleted all the old databases under
> ".translation_index", but If you think an obvious search isn't
> working, please let me know so I can check for corrupted databases.
> 
> Any more comments/contributions regarding the interface or anything
> you see appropriate is welcome, of course. You can checkout the code
> from the branch at my github repository[1].
> 
> Friedel: this setup removes previously applied patches on
> beta.locamotion.org (suggestions + unfuzzy), so if you need some of
> that stuff, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Julen.
> 
> [1] http://github.com/julen/pootle/tree/search_enhancements
> 
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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-07 Thread Lars Kruse
Hi,

> >> Anyway, server up and running now.
> >
> > Still down. The memory issue on indexing is a concern.

I did some tests regarding this issue. The outcome was, that indexing causes
all of the po files to be loaded. These files partly stay in memory (cached),
thus eating it up while creating an index of a project like openoffice.
So: the basic problem is the growing cache. During an index rebuild the problem
is just more likely to be triggered than under usual circumstances.

@Friedel: please correct me, if I my poor memory mixed something up ...


> The same problem again. We should consider giving the option to build
> indexes when Pootle is not running

yes - that would be a highly desirable feature.


> it's true that beta.locamotion.org has only 512MB of RAM but it's still a
> major issue that the server goes down.

sadly the whole server runs on only 512M. To reduce the risk of
beta.locamotion.org eating up all memory (even for the main instance of
pootle), I limited the memory usage of beta via ulimit to 384M.
(see /etc/init.d/pootle in the beta chroot)

regards,
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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-06 Thread Julen
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 21:22 +0200, Julen wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I'm getting a 503 on the site :(
>>
>> As far as I can see it's not the first time it happens, since the
>> server runs out of memory while building indexes for project
>> OpenOffice.org :(
>>
>> Anyway, server up and running now.
>
> Still down. The memory issue on indexing is a concern.

The same problem again. We should consider giving the option to build
indexes when Pootle is not running -- it's true that
beta.locamotion.org has only 512MB of RAM but it's still a major issue
that the server goes down.

Lars, any thoughts on this?

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-06 Thread Dwayne Bailey
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 21:22 +0200, Julen wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm getting a 503 on the site :(
> 
> As far as I can see it's not the first time it happens, since the
> server runs out of memory while building indexes for project
> OpenOffice.org :(
> 
> Anyway, server up and running now.

Still down. The memory issue on indexing is a concern.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-06 Thread Julen
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Dwayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm getting a 503 on the site :(

As far as I can see it's not the first time it happens, since the
server runs out of memory while building indexes for project
OpenOffice.org :(

Anyway, server up and running now.

Julen.

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Re: [translate-pootle] Searching for fields on beta

2008-08-06 Thread Dwayne Bailey
I'm getting a 503 on the site :(

On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Julen wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I've set up beta.locamotion.org with the ability to search for fields
> (source, target, comments, and locations). It works both with and
> without indexer -- the server is running with Xapian, though.
> 
> I'd be very happy if you take a little bit of time to test this and
> report any issues you find. Please note that since new fields are
> being indexed, Pootle needs to rebuild all the indexing databases so
> it may take a little bit of time, specially for large projects like
> OpenOffice.org. I've deleted all the old databases under
> ".translation_index", but If you think an obvious search isn't
> working, please let me know so I can check for corrupted databases.
> 
> Any more comments/contributions regarding the interface or anything
> you see appropriate is welcome, of course. You can checkout the code
> from the branch at my github repository[1].
> 
> Friedel: this setup removes previously applied patches on
> beta.locamotion.org (suggestions + unfuzzy), so if you need some of
> that stuff, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Julen.
> 
> [1] http://github.com/julen/pootle/tree/search_enhancements
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