Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread mikko . viinamaki

I haven't used VB but you have a custom kernel

3.7.1-gnu kernel

Which apparently doesn't have that module included

vboxdrv

Looks like the virtualbox-dkms package provides the source code for the  
virtualbox kernel module to be build with dkms. Kernel sources or headers are  
required to compile this module.


So perhaps you need to compile the module?


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-01-09 Thread b929199

dunno


[Trisquel-users] firefox 18

2013-01-09 Thread b929199

please update trisquel repos to firefox 18


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Trisquel 6 on a Thinkpad X230

2013-01-09 Thread cyberhawk
I think I've seen the x230, if it's what I think it is, congrats. Probably  
one of the best laptops you can get. Nice to hear it is working so well with  
Trisquel too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card [for a Thinkpad]?

2013-01-09 Thread Fabian Rodriguez

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Le 13-01-09 12:29 AM, m...@lavabit.com a écrit :
 I need to replace this card: http://i.imgur.com/QlFdw.jpg for an IBM Lenovo 
 ThinkPad T42 2374-Y1Z
laptop. I don't think it is compatible.


Do you have the system at hand? It would be most useful if you could
post its information (or even update h-node.org).

I recently got an X230 and went through the same process to learn about
the DRM implemented by Lenovo on their systems.

The Thinkwiki page referenced at the LibrePlanet page mentioned in this
thread has extensive information on that:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_unauthorized_MiniPCI_network_card

If you search through that page, it seems it may be possible to remove
the whitelisting restriction by hacking your BIOS (other methods are
listed on that page too). Your model isn't specifically mentioned,
though. In order to make a request for a modified BIOS, you may read this:
http://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-VERY-IMPORTANT-Bios-whitelist-removal-requests

It also seems the T61 model mentioned by someone else is on that list.

Every thinkpad model has a page at Thinkwiki.org. If you scroll down
yours, you will see other issues/tips for your specific model. The
MiniPCI DRM problems page was not linked, I've since fixed that:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T42

BTW the USB adapter sold at http://libre.thinkpenguin.com is always good
to have in hand, not only for these cases. It's helped me in many other
occasions testing and installing new systems too :)

Cheers,

Fabian

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http://trisquel.magicfab.ca


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 on a Thinkpad X230

2013-01-09 Thread mattij . lammi
Thanks a lot for reporting your laptop to h-node. Contributions are highly  
appreciated and they benefit us all. Good job!


By the way, have you tried the newest linux-libre with your laptop? I think  
there is this one guy here in the forums who has his own repository for the  
latest libre-kernel. I haven't tried it myself though. If I recall, the guy  
is known as jxself.


Re: [Trisquel-users] firefox 18

2013-01-09 Thread mattij . lammi
There is no firefox in the Trisquel's repos because firefox suggest's some  
non-free add-ons to the user. There might be some other small freedom issues  
too if I recall but I'm not sure. Anyway, we have abrowser (which is  
basically firefox with the freedom issues solved). It would be nice if we  
could have the latest version of some really important applications like  
abrowser in the repos.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel HD 4000 driver in Trisquel 6

2013-01-09 Thread mono

Thanks everyone for the informations.
for now i went for the libre kernel 3.6 and the drivers offered by

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/intel-graphics-updates

I will see how that behaves.

what i am wondering though, in the system-details-graphics it says:

Driver: Intel Ivybridge Desktop
Experience: Fallback

couldn't it say something more better sounding than fallback?

and in /var/log/Xorg.0.log i find

[22.418] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[22.418] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[22.418] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev

so am still not sure, if the drivers are correct.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread nickjwallin

So perhaps you need to compile the module?

I've never had to compile any packages I got from Add/Remove Applications or  
Synaptic before. Never got those package-name-src packages, and I guess  
you're saying this could be like one of those? Where do I go to compile it?  
What command do I run? Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel HD 4000 driver in Trisquel 6

2013-01-09 Thread mono

oh, well


[Trisquel-users] Re : firefox 18

2013-01-09 Thread ben
I've noticed lately that I am unable to browse some sites (my bank for  
instance) correctly with abrowser (v16), although it used to work fine, and  
it works perfectly fine with Midori or GNU IceCat (v17).  I'll try to empty  
my cache and see if things change, but if it doesn't, then it would be  
another argument in favor of having an up-to-date default browser.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel HD 4000 driver in Trisquel 6

2013-01-09 Thread onpon4
If you want GNOME Shell, install gnome-session, then pick GNOME for the  
desktop session when you log in (instead of GNOME Classic). I'm using GNOME  
Shell on Trisquel 5.5 right now. I gather it's a bit more complicated with  
Trisquel 6, but I haven't read the details:  
http://trisquel.info/en/forum/gnome-3-trisquel-6


Or, alternatively, you could install unity and choose Ubuntu to use Unity.  
Again, I don't know if there are any issues with that in Trisquel 6.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?

2013-01-09 Thread morne
With regards to the BIOS patching, I should firstly add that it is a  
potentially risky process and it might leave your laptop in a non-working  
state. This might just be a routine warning, as I don't know how often the  
process fails.


Having said that, I did in fact patch my BIOS (IIRC:  
http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo/459591-t61-x61-sata-ii-1-5-gb-s-cap-willing-pay-solution-8.html#post6501443)  
but it was for the SATA speed and not for the whitelist, although it is the  
same patch. I have not tested whether an alternative wireless card works, so  
I cannot comment on that. As mentioned, having a USB wireless adapter is  
useful in any case.


I had to run the patch, which is specific for the 60/61-series, in Windows.  
Luckily (!) I had Windows Vista on the laptop when I got it. The patch was  
the only thing I did with it before I installed Trisquel. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Well, first find out what the package contained

dpkg -L virtualbox-dkms

Then make a temporary directory somewhere where you have write privileges,  
e.g. ~/temp and copy the source tree there. Including the subfolders and  
their contents. (This way you don't have to compile as root.)


( ~ means your home folder btw, that is /home/$YOURUSERNAME/)

Now would be a good time to install the compiling tools

sudo apt-get install build-essential

Then jump to the temporary folder and follow the standard compilation  
protocol


./configure
make
sudo make install

These commands can give you warnings and other kind of output which can be  
ignored but they can also produce an error which means the process had failed  
and stopped. Usually means you're missing a development package needed for  
compiling.


Now the original modprobe command should work. It inserts the kernel module  
you just compiled into the running kernel.


Did I manage to be confusing enough?


Re: [Trisquel-users] GNOME Panel is lost

2013-01-09 Thread rexburton16
As the old saying goes, there's more than one way to skin a cat.   
Personally, I like my cat and have no wish to skin it, but that's beside the  
point.  Having only temporary success with only one of the above methods, I  
tried something I learned in another OS (shhh!).  Here's what I did:


- Press CTRL+ALT+t to open a terminal
- Type gnome-panel and press ENTER.
- From the Panel's Main Menu, open System Settings.
- From there, open Startup Applications.
- Click New Item.
- Name the item Panel.
- Enter gnome-panel for the command.
- Save the new startup item.
- Close Startup Applications and System Settings.

My Panel (Taskbar - shhh!) is appearing every time I boot.


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Intel HD 4000 driver in Trisquel 6

2013-01-09 Thread mono

Thank you for that suggestion!

I was curious what GNOME Shell might look like.
Installing on a second machine running Trisquel 5.5 gave me the GNOME desktop  
after installing gnome-shell and gnome-session.

On the Trisquel 6 machine:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gnome-session : Breaks: gnome-shell (= 3.0) but 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 is to be  
installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

it appears only one of the two packages can be installed at the same time.  
and there is no GNOME at the log-in menu selectable or offered (using GDM).


but, well, i figured i'd stay with GNOME Classic anyway, as the short test on  
Trisquel 5.5 didn't feel comfortable to me.


thanks anyway!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread nickjwallin
Sounds relatively straightforward :) Thanks, I will try this soon (tonight at  
earliest) and report back with how it turns out!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread gustavo_cm

That would be:


$ mkdir ~/temp; cd ~/temp
$ apt-get download virtualbox-dkms
$ dpkg --extract virtualbox-dkms[...] .


However, there is no configure file there. I believe the virtualbox-dkms  
files are used when GENERATING a initramfs image or something like this.


I didn't get through that stuff, but start here:  
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=virtualbox-dkms


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?

2013-01-09 Thread m37
I've bought the USB wireless adapter from Think Penguin. I'm in New York so  
it should be here soon. I will see about updating an entry to h-node.org. I  
have a handy URL address I could link here,too, about my system...instead of  
typing it all out. I'll just need to find it.


Thank you for linking the information about the BIOS. And the summary  
information on the DRM, lembas. I'm interested in altering this at any  
expense to obtain a further conversion, away from copyrights. And as long  
as it's environmentally conscious. Very helpful community!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?

2013-01-09 Thread commodore256
Actually, It's FCC regulations that forced IBM to Whitelist their Wireless  
Cards.


I have a possible solution, but it involves using non-free utility once and  
then you can remove it once the job is done. (well, I only know of non-free  
utils for this, there might be free ones that I'm not aware of)


Anyway, it involves hacking your Bios, my friend bought a Thinkpad T420s for  
his networking class and his networking card and it didn't work with certain  
protocols with GNU/Linux. so he bought the best wireless card he could find  
and it didn't work because of the whitelist, so he hacked his bios and now he  
uses whatever he wants. However flashing a modified bios could brick your  
laptop and the method  I know of involves using non-free software, but if I  
was sure it would work, I would recommend it because your bios isn't free  
anyway and I would like to know if anybody here actually uses coreboot.


Out of convenience and and paranoia that the process could eff up your laptop  
because something went wrong, I recommend the USB adapter.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?

2013-01-09 Thread chris
While this was initially the explanation given they have since flip flopped.  
The flip flop occurred because the FCC explicitly said there was no such  
requirement. Everything suggests a financial motive.


I also want to point out that while IBM/Lenovo may have been the first  
company to implement this they are not the only company implementing a white  
list.


I can confirm these restrictions are in place on at least some HP, Lenovo,  
IBM, Dell, and Toshiba notebooks. At this time I don't believe there to be  
any other manufacturers implementing such restrictions on the installable  
PCI/PCIe cards.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I buy a liberated wifi card?

2013-01-09 Thread andrew . roffey
 Actually, It's FCC regulations that forced IBM to Whitelist their Wireless  
Cards.


The FCC is a sucker for big business and proprietary software. This link is  
an interesting read BTW (from someone who knows FCC regulation):


http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/010155.html

 I recommend the USB adapter.

+1, that seems like the better way to go.


Re: [Trisquel-users] firefox 18

2013-01-09 Thread chris
I'd probably complain to the bank. Chance are they don't have any control  
over it... but it can't hurt. The software is likely written by a company  
that is then deployed by various banks.  Firefox 10 is supported on at least  
some operating systems. There is no technical / security justification for  
telling users there browser is no longer supported or banning them from using  
these browsers.


Re: [Trisquel-users] firefox 18

2013-01-09 Thread chris
It probably would and is a better solution from a free software perspective  
than installing Firefox. I think for most people I'd suggest just sticking  
with abrowser and modifying the string. There is even a plug-in to do this  
too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 on a Thinkpad X230

2013-01-09 Thread chris
His repository works great. There are a few minor issues if you need to run  
virtualbox although other than that it usually works well to fix the lack of  
support for at least some newer hardware.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread nickjwallin

lembas, GustavoCM:

Those solutions did not work for me, and doing a web search is leading me to  
areas that are too complicated for me to tackle. It seems my case is  
sufficiently atypical that the only way to (possibly) fix it would be to  
re-compile the kernel. Too much work.


Qemu seems to work, so I think I'll try putting my efforts toward figuring  
out its nuances. I don't exactly need VirtualBox, just virtualization.


Thanks for the help at any rate. Hopefully this thread helps somebody else  
with a more common setup.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems Installing/Using VirtualBox

2013-01-09 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Looks like this one is somehow automagically compiled by dkms.

Perhaps if one removes the virtualbox-dkms package and installs the dkms  
package and then re-installs the virtualbox-dkms package the auto compile  
would get triggered?


And then the modprobe to add the module.

If not, apparently man 8 dkms should contain answers.