[Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893

http://savewinamp.com/

Please, sign the petition.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread holger . beetz
Please excuse my ignorance but what is the benefit of making such an old  
piece of software FLOSS ?


Possibly a lot of people still use Winamp today but with things like VLC,  
Mediaplayer Classic and the huge variety of players available on Linux I  
never look back to Winamp for years. IMO Winamp has had its time when there  
was not a lot of competition but as many other tools of the days back then it  
is not really needed anymore unless it is for the "I have been using this for  
years" factor :)


Also I have my problems when I either need a twitter or Facebook account to  
sign something


Just my 2 cents,
Holger 


Re: [Trisquel-users] is a real time kernel available for 6.0

2013-11-27 Thread onno

thank you!
I followed your instructions :)
It outputs:

linux-libre-rt is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer  
required:

  sbsigntool gir1.2-timezonemap-1.0 realpath gir1.2-json-1.0
  linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic libdebian-installer4 apt-clone dpkg-repack
  archdetect-deb python-pyicu gir1.2-xkl-1.0
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

uname -a outputs:
Linux aeLiXihr 3.6.11-gnu-3-generic-rt25 #precise1 SMP Sun Jan 6 10:03:24 UTC  
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


but Raboofs script gives:
Kernel with Real-Time Preemption... not found - not good
Kernel without real-time capabilities found





Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I set up a mail server?

2013-11-27 Thread Michał Masłowski
> I have heard adjusting SPF records may solve this problem but
> I haven't had any luck, it seems to me they are just blocking any
> residential ip range and saying "you must be spam, forget
> you". Similar to what Michal said above.

SPF is used to determine which IP addresses can send mail from a domain,
so spammers won't use fake From addresses.  (The "envelope addresses"
are used, these are/should be different when forwarding mails or getting
them from a list.)  Maybe some servers accept more mails that have
correct SPF records, mine uses it only to reject some mails.

Blocking residential IP ranges is caused by a specific RBL [0].  It is evil.

> Though I would love an infographic or video tutorial on the VPN/relay
> solution - it sounds incredibly technical for most users... 

I don't know how VPNs are configured.  SMTP relay is a standard feature
and mail servers document it, e.g. [1].  It is possible to relay mails
using SMTP authentication to connect to your VPS or an ISP mail server.
This makes message plain text always visible to that server, unlike
relaying a TLS connection to the destination/sender mail server via a
VPN.  (It's imo not a big change in security, since there are easy man
in the middle attacks on SMTP with TLS.)

[0] http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/
[1] http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#intranet


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Avaneya Libre Game Project Releases Lost NASA Archive for Crowdfunding

2013-11-27 Thread gromobir

I think you forgot to put a link here: https://www.avaneya.com/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893
>Please excuse my ignorance but what is the benefit of making such an old  
piece of software FLOSS ?


1. Historical interest.
2. Education. I think, a lot of  young programmers want to know how famous  
software works under hood.


>Also I have my problems when I either need a twitter or Facebook account to  
sign something


You need ONLY address of e-mail. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread onpon4
This is a petition to either "keep it alive" or release the source code. It's  
not a petition to free Winamp; making it "open source" is just mentioned as  
one possible "solution" to the "problem" of Winamp being dead (and not even  
the preferred "solution", at that).


Just use VLC. There's no need for Winamp.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread holger . beetz

Ah..thanks for clarification !
I was misleaded by the two big FB and Twitter Icons below the "button".

Anyway...I rarely see purpose in open-sourcing WinAmp. Those with interest in  
Mediaplayers can simply study the VLC sources.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread jason

> There's no need for Winamp.

Indeed. All of the functionality is already included in other existing free  
programs so there's no need for the the free world to pay any attention to  
this campagin. Winamp is proprietary. Let it die, and rejoice in there being  
one less proprietary program in the world.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893



>making it "open source" is just mentioned as one possible "solution" to the  
"problem" of Winamp being dead (and not even the preferred "solution", at  
that).


Yes. But , I don't think AOL is going to support Winamp anymore, because this  
is unprofitable.


>Those with interest in Mediaplayers can simply study the VLC sources.

There is huge difference between SOME mediaplayer and a famous one. Somebody  
can think "Winamp(or other famous software) is just fantastic! I would like  
to know how it works! I don't care about VLC/mplayer/etc, I want to see code  
of Winamp only!! "


>Just use VLC.
No, thanks. I didn't like Winamp even in my Windowshood.


[Trisquel-users] New argument against closed-source software.

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893

My inspiration:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22380603


Closed-source software can mine cryptocurrency at your expense!

Unlike trojans, this is not crime. This is just form of parasitism.

Battery will run out faster. CPU and GPU will heat more. Your bills for  
electricity will be increasing. You will have to upgrade your PC more  
frequently. Etc.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Where can I download free wallpaper ?

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893

Also, you can generate beautiful images with help of Evolvotron.

http://www.bottlenose.demon.co.uk/share/evolvotron/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Thinkpenguin USB Wireless N Adapter to work

2013-11-27 Thread arielxgbarton

I don't own it, but many people have said that recently.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Linux Voice is asking the community where should 50% of their profits go

2013-11-27 Thread arielxgbarton
What would Trisquel do with all that money? I would say EFF is best, followed  
by FSF.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread magicbanana
Are you writing that VLC is not famous?! Estimations based on direct  
downloads (which exceeded one billion in May 2012) indicate that there are  
between 100 and 150 millions users of VLC. That is at least what the  
association told the Hadopi.


According to Wikipedia: "As of June 22, 2000 Winamp surpassed 25 million  
registrants". I doubt it ever reached the current popularity of VLC.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New argument against closed-source software.

2013-11-27 Thread arielxgbarton

I agree; I was going to post this but I did not.

Also, there was another article about a popular manufacturer of smart TV  
sending data back to HQ even if you opted out.


It's terrible, many people hate it, but do not know the solution...

If everyone wanted to kill the NSA, they would encrypt their emails, and  
decrypt them with free software.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Can't get Thinkpenguin USB Wireless N Adapter to work

2013-11-27 Thread magicbanana

You had better contact Chris (ThinkPenguin's CEO and Trisquel user).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893


>Are you writing that VLC is not famous?!

No, I'm not. But Winamp is symbol of his epoch. This is like the Prince of  
Persia or Windows 95.


[Trisquel-users] Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

I found Mozilla Thunderbird in Trisquel's package listings.

And, sadly, the GNU PPA has no Gnuzilla version of Thunderbird.

I still need a free copy of Thunderbird.

What should I do?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread aaz893

Trademark restriction are acceptable in free systems.

http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html#trademarks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread Michał Masłowski
"However, it is unacceptable to use trademarks to restrict verbatim
copying and redistribution of the whole distribution, or any part" means
that selling copies of the package must be allowed, while the Mozilla
trademark policy doesn't allow it.  See
http://jxself.org/mozilla_trademark.shtml for why it is a problem.


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[Trisquel-users] Re : Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread mtlben
A (critical because freedom-related) bug has already been opened about that  
Thunderbird rebranding/addon URL issue:


https://trisquel.info/fr/issues/6456


[Trisquel-users] GUI for 7" Touchscreen in a car

2013-11-27 Thread matt . ivie
I'm very interested in building a PC that I can install in my vehicle and I  
want it to have the option of using GPS Routing and Navigation, Web Browsing,  
videos, music and maybe a few other goodies. My biggest problem is that most  
software that is geared toward this purpose is built to run on Windows and  
it's non-free software. Everything I've found for GNU/Linux is old and  
doesn't seem to be maintained any longer.


Does anyone have any experience with this? Any links or suggestions on a good  
GUI would be greatly appreciated.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread onpon4
I asked my brother (13 years old) if he knows what Winamp is. He said "no".  
Though to be fair, he hadn't heard of VLC, either, for some reason.


Same answers from my sister (who's 15).


Re: [Trisquel-users] GUI for 7" Touchscreen in a car

2013-11-27 Thread arielxgbarton

Lxlauncher


[Trisquel-users] Clipboard sharing (VirtualBox OSE Debian host + Trisquel Guest)

2013-11-27 Thread Fabián Rodríguez
Hi

I was wondering if anyone has gotten Clipboard sharing to work for a
Trisquel Mini guest?

I installed virtualbox-guest-utils, rebooted the virtual machine,
enabled the shared clipboard in the guest options, but I can't seem to
get it to work.

I didn't want to install guest addition from the VirtualBox OSE menu, as
I preferred the Trisquel packages for this.

Any help would be appreciated.

F.


-- 
Fabián Rodríguez - XMPP/Jabber+OTR: magic...@member.fsf.org
http://fsf.magicfab.ca




Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread spaceraph
I am really sorry, but I think almost everyone here never even heard of  
Winamp. However, most people heard of VLC ; My school uses it, I use it,  
thereis 150 millions of users, and in the days Winamp was popular, there were  
only 25 millions of users...


I am not going to help peoples to support "Open Source ancient proprietary  
software", since it would be encouraging also encouraging the use of  
MicroSoft Windows, and thus encouraging the use of proprietary softwares.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Minor video editing with command line

2013-11-27 Thread Andresmp

Thanks Magic Banana!

ogg convert never failed me, but I wanted something that I could scale up or  
batch script. I do not recall ogg convert having a comand line interface.


I will install transmageddon to see if it can do what I want.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Minor video editing with command line

2013-11-27 Thread onpon4

I've also used WinFF for convertion; it's a frontend for FFmpeg.


Re: [Trisquel-users] is a real time kernel available for 6.0

2013-11-27 Thread jbar

OK, you have linux-libre-rt installed.

Now you have to reboot and select that kernel. Keep pressed the shift key  
when grub starts and select it. Check with 'uname -a' that the kernel  
currently used is linux-libre-rt.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread shiretoko
"I am not going to help peoples to support "Open Source ancient proprietary  
software", since it would be encouraging also encouraging the use of  
MicroSoft Windows, and thus encouraging the use of proprietary softwares."


Of course; everytime a proprietary program becomes free software this is  
encouraging the use of proprietary software... sorry, never heard such  
nonsense.


Maybe some of you forget that even the oldest proprietary program has *some*  
users, and so *some* people can be freed when the program becomes free.

If the program dies they might switch to another proprietary program.

It's good if a proprietary program is wiped out.
It's even better if we get a free program instead.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I set up a mail server?

2013-11-27 Thread adel . afzal

I get this error message, for port 25, at canyouseeme.org:

"Error: I could not see your service on 99.226.32.158 on port (25)
Reason: Connection timed out"




Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I set up a mail server?

2013-11-27 Thread adel . afzal

Michal's post is blank on the forum


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread superbyelich
I for one would love to see Winamp become free software.  Then it can be  
ported to GNU/Linux!


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel in "2013 Holiday Giving Guide " from FSF

2013-11-27 Thread dadix

I read these posts.
They are very interesting.
https://www.fsf.org/givingguide
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/give-freely-this-cyber-monday-introducing-the-2013-giving-guide


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread em9002
I don't like this petition.  Saying "if it cannot be kept alive in one form  
or another then its source code needs to be released to the public" implies  
that making the source code of a program available (the only ethical way of  
distributing a program) is akin to killing the program.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Minor video editing with command line

2013-11-27 Thread magicbanana

Transmageddon is graphical too. So, yes, my answer was off-topic.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread TralfamadorianOrator
I'd be a little more compelled to sign the petition if it were for making  
Winamp free rather than making it "open source".


If the petition used the word free rather than "open source", more people  
outside of this community would stop and think about the meaning of the word  
free.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Linux Voice is asking the community where should 50% of their profits go

2013-11-27 Thread jason

"I would say EFF is best, followed by FSF."

Considering the nature of the magazine, that order seems backward.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread Andrew R.
I originally supported the idea, until I read the petition and realised
that it said "keep Winamp alive OR go open source". I could only sign a
petition that said "go free software" (or maybe "go open source" if I
knew the open source license was also free).

Unlike other opinions here, I think petitioning for Winamp to go free is
a good idea, although it probably isn't a very significant contribution
to the community. Every contribution to our community should be welcomed.

In the meantime, let's encourage those Winamp users to use VLC, a
powerful, free media player which will never die as long as somebody is
interested in supporting it.

Andrew.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread onpon4
This petition emphasizes preventing Winamp from "dying", not freeing its  
source code. Making it "open source" is talked about as a secondary,  
"solution" to the "problem" in the event that AOL is unwilling to continue  
maintaining it as a proprietary program.


Signing this petition does not vote for free software. It votes for  
proprietary software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

So, what can I do?  GNU doesn't have a Gnuzilla version of Thunderbird.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in "2013 Holiday Giving Guide " from FSF

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

Interesting, but few would actually find these gifts attractive.

Someone _might_ like the laptop, but yo would complain about not being able  
to play BusRider, or whatever stupid games people like to play.  (Trisquel  
keeps kids away from my personal files, for sure.)


There is no ebook reader.

The most viable gift would be a Replicant device.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread onpon4

Debian has a re-branded version, IceDove I think.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thunderbird in repos

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

I try to stay away from Debian.  I'm going to look for gNewSense's spinoff.


Re: [Trisquel-users] GUI for 7" Touchscreen in a car

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm
I'd suggest mapping software, rather than GPS software.  GPS is a tracking  
device.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New argument against closed-source software.

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

I wish I could encrypt emails, but I can barely get people to even use email.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel tablet

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm
Actually, unlike the GNU system, Android was defined to be using Linux as its  
kernel.  GNU, on the other hand, was defined as using GNU Hurd as its kernel.


So, since Android is defined as employing Linux as its kernel, it mustn't be  
called Android/Linux.


And, the same goes for GNU.  Since GNU is defined as using Hurd for its  
kernel, it mustn't be called GNU/Hurd.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel tablet

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

On-screen keyboard and regular desktop programs?

That reminds me:  I'd like to dress a tablet GNU+Linux-libre system to look  
like SolarOS from _TRON: Legacy_.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make FLOSS out of Winamp! Petition to AOL.

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

As many have already said, WinAmp just needs to die.

VLC triumphs.  Even my wretched high school has VLC on every computer.  It is  
popular software and respects people's freedom.  Let them study _that_.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Clipboard sharing (VirtualBox OSE Debian host + Trisquel Guest)

2013-11-27 Thread whitepalm

You may be able to share with wemux, and use its clipboard.

wemux: https://github.com/zolrath/wemux