Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7

2015-03-09 Thread onpon4
No. I only ever use Windows if it's on someone else's computer, to freeze  
Python code. What's with the picture?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Evolution + GPG = me going nuts!

2015-03-09 Thread golyn

I think I finally fixed it. Thank you very much guys


Re: [Trisquel-users] 3G modems coming integrated with Next Gen Intel Atom (for real this time)

2015-03-09 Thread amenex

Let's get the discussion back on track.

There's another way of achieving high speed 'puters, and that's by harnessing  
them together, as in the twenty-mule-team CPU. That would spread out the heat  
load, and the array could simply piggyback on the socket of an obsolete  
motherboard.


A long time ago, my company had an electron microscope whose maker was gone  
forever. Our repair guy simply had piggyback boards made with modern  
components that could do whatever it was that the no-longer-available chips  
and modules could no longer do. I learned to replace burnt-out tantatalum  
capacitors with cheap electrolytics found in the local electronics store ...  
that machine had relatively few integrated circuits.


In the meantime, consider trying to re-learn games that aren't so  
computer-intensive. What does it take to type a report, even one with lots of  
figures ? We're being forced to shoehorn GNU/linux into perpetually  
pre-obsolete computers and forgetting how to upgrade the older ones. One  
supplier of a spreadsheet-based graphing app has been supplying essentially  
the same app for some twenty-five years that works exactly the same way today  
as it did when running on a DOS 6.22 PC-AT computer, and it could do fourier  
transforms on huge data arrays then in just a few minutes. What's the hurry ?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Evolution + GPG = me going nuts!

2015-03-09 Thread pascal

Em 09.03.2015 12:17, go...@openmailbox.org escreveu:

I think I finally fixed it. Thank you very much guys


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7

2015-03-09 Thread maestro

Question:


[Trisquel-users] Synclient option and lxde.

2015-03-09 Thread ewlabonte
I posted this yesterday, and for some reason it got deleted, or maybe I  
didn't post it correctly. I'm using Trisquel 7.0 mini which uses LXDE. I want  
to be able to scroll with the vertical edge motion. The option on synclient  
is vertedgescroll which should be set to 1 instead of 0. It works fine when i  
enter it manually from a terminal. I set it up in .bashrc to be set  
automatically, and that doesn't work. But the weird thing is, as soon as I  
launch a terminal it does get set without my entering anything in the  
terminal. Does anyone know why this would happen?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Synclient option and lxde.

2015-03-09 Thread Sachin
Use export instead of set in bashrc

On 9 March 2015 8:34:49 pm IST, ewlabo...@gmail.com wrote:
I posted this yesterday, and for some reason it got deleted, or maybe I
 
didn't post it correctly. I'm using Trisquel 7.0 mini which uses LXDE.
I want  
to be able to scroll with the vertical edge motion. The option on
synclient  
is vertedgescroll which should be set to 1 instead of 0. It works fine
when i  
enter it manually from a terminal. I set it up in .bashrc to be set  
automatically, and that doesn't work. But the weird thing is, as soon
as I  
launch a terminal it does get set without my entering anything in the  
terminal. Does anyone know why this would happen?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Synclient option and lxde.

2015-03-09 Thread davesamcdxv
Might it be that Bash simply doesn't start in the sessiom (and thus doesn't  
autostart anything in .bash) until the terminal does?


Try another autostarting method (i.e. putting the command in  
/etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart as an additional line)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Synclient option and lxde.

2015-03-09 Thread ewlabonte
Neither of those suggestions worked. In /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart   
all the lines seem to begin with @. Should the extra line be @synclient  
vertedgescroll=1?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternatives to Wikipedia

2015-03-09 Thread lovexdrew

Is there something wrong with Wikipedia?


[Trisquel-users] IceCat and Duckduckgo country version

2015-03-09 Thread no-email
I can't see the result if I search something with IceCat by the Duckduckgo's  
web page with country version on, for example gnu  
(https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gnu) while I can see a list of link if I use the  
Search bar: (https://duckduckgo.com/html?q=gnut=trisquel) but without  
country searching.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't boot NetInstall

2015-03-09 Thread amilopowers

I just have given it another try with disabled UEFI.

Initially I was happy to see it acted different but I had no luck. Just an  
underline on a black screen appeared and continued to blink. I had a USB to  
Network adapter plugged in and the Internet works when running Tisquel...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't boot NetInstall

2015-03-09 Thread amilopowers
One more question: should it be possible to create a bootable USB with the  
system integrated USB creator or not? Because I can make one with the  
belenos .iso file but not with the Trisquel NetInstall one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Synclient option and lxde.

2015-03-09 Thread ewlabonte
I discovered what was wrong, and it was my fault. I had disabled  
vertedgescroll in a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart when using a  
previous distro. I had forgotten about that. Everything works find now. Sorry  
to waste your time and thanks for the responses.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7

2015-03-09 Thread maestro
don't you find it funny - like super real funny? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7

2015-03-09 Thread onpon4
Not really, I don't get it. It looks like the guy in the picture is angry  
about something or about to shoot someone for some other reason, but why  
would you be angry about other people running proprietary programs on their  
computers?


Re: [Trisquel-users] IceCat and Duckduckgo country version

2015-03-09 Thread franparpe

Greetings mister Gnu.

I think Icecat uses the non-javascript version of Duckduckgo and that the  
settings are handled in a different way. But don' worry my friend, Duckduckgo  
is more powerful than it seems: the search engine support the same and more  
operators than the search engines whose name have a G at the beginning.


to activate the region search without javascript you can use the operator r  
for example:



emacs r:uk


this will search for emacs in the United Kingdom. You can replace uk with  
es for Spain, de for Germany and so on.


For more information about this syntax, look here:

https://duck.co/help/results/syntax


There are more advance operators available than the ones listed there so I  
invite you to try the ones from the search engine with the G in its name.


Tell us how it works or if I answered the question you where asking.

Thank you and have a nice day.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Can't boot NetInstall

2015-03-09 Thread lcerf

The purpose of this utility is to create a live USB!

Netinstall is a bare default system. It does not have any graphical utility.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternatives to Wikipedia

2015-03-09 Thread tomlukeywood
its good to have alternatives to Wikipedia in-case Wikipedia did turn into a  
bad website but what is wrong with wikipedia?


Re: [Trisquel-users] sudo make you system less secure

2015-03-09 Thread blade . vp2020

 Hi friend.
hi my friend
 What do you mean by moofed and issuing authority?
sudo make all users to be a root



Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternatives to Wikipedia

2015-03-09 Thread onpon4
If Wikipedia started having problems, the wiki could be mirrored somewhere  
else. This has happened with TV Tropes (forked to allthetropes.orain.org),  
though in that case TV Tropes started violating contributors' copyleft by  
changing its license to CC BY-NC-SA without their permission, which prevents  
the fork from copying over any changes made more recently than that. Given  
the massive number of contributors to Wikipedia, and the prevalence of  
Wikipedia, I don't think such a scheme would work there, though.


(Side note: if you have contributed substantially to TV Tropes before July  
2012 and have not given them permission to distribute those contributions  
under CC BY-NC-SA, I'd highly recommend you complain about their unauthorized  
distribution of your work and demand that they fix the licensing or remove  
your contributions. Unauthorized copying is not unethical, but imposing  
restrictions on commercial usage is an injustice, and in this case some  
action can be taken against it.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Migrate from Ubuntu to Trisquel

2015-03-09 Thread tomlukeywood
if you want a tutorial of compiling unetbootin from source(works with both  
versions i listed)

i made a video here:
http://92.19.232.58:82/files/Compiling_unetbootin_from_source.ogv


Re: [Trisquel-users] Qrgui - a GUI-based QR code generator

2015-03-09 Thread gramex
I'm not experienced with making Debian packages, but perhaps I could do it in  
the future.


Re: [Trisquel-users] sudo make you system less secure

2015-03-09 Thread onpon4
That's not true. Sudo is an alternative to logging in as root directly which  
can be configured to give each user any number of privileges. In that sense,  
it can be much more secure; you can give each user only permission to do  
exactly what they need to be able to do, and nothing more. Whereas with  
logging in as root, you need to give someone all the root permissions, or  
none.


On typical user systems, like Trisquel's default settings, there is only a  
distinction between admins and non-admins: admins can do everything with  
sudo, and non-admins can do nothing with sudo. But that's not the most that  
sudo can do.


[Trisquel-users] sudo make you system less secure

2015-03-09 Thread blade . vp2020
Sorry I thought this thing with the moofed root accounts was bad, but I just  
saw a reference to [sudo su -] WHAT!

That has to be the worst command in the scope of security

 You not only have a root accounted moofed so that
the user has to rely on the security of the sudo command without being able  
to verify the authentication of the issuing authority other than the  
configuration
of the command and that is sudo.. but now it is added as a layer of switch  
user (su) which is completely against the UNIX security model of never add  
any

layers to account access.
Logic: every layer provides one more place for a security failure..

When I first tested the sudo command by compiling the source in  2006 and  
found it to violate the UNIX standard security model I would have never  
believed


that not only would it become something people use..
When you look at commercial organizations which use secure systems you will  
find that sudo is NEVER a command on those systems and there is a reason.
the keyword here is security. UNIX and gnu/Linux can be secure, but it can  
also be unsecure.. all it takes is poor configuration, programming and bad  
commands
to make it so. If people do not want to learn how to keep and use secure  
systems, use windows.. or even some device where the root authority is  
embedded
in a chip like a smart phone, so the ISP can get into the system. The  
security designs are there because they have been working properly for over  
40 years,

either adhere to proper security or plan on having a security failure.
 I do understand that they are trying to make UNIX/Linux administration more  
user friendly so to attract more users. And from that point I am all for  
making
systems more friendly. BUT!, Do not make systems friendly by making them less  
secure.

http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/history.html



Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7

2015-03-09 Thread tomlukeywood

i dont


Re: [Trisquel-users] sudo make you system less secure

2015-03-09 Thread blade . vp2020

https://lxnay.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/quick-and-dirty-why-sudo-is-bad-for-security/


Re: [Trisquel-users] sudo make you system less secure

2015-03-09 Thread marioxcc . MT

Hi friend.

What do you mean by moofed and issuing authority?. Bear in mind that sudo  
doesn't uses certificates like SSL/TLS, so there is no issuing authority to  
speak of, at least as far as I know.


I don't think that sudo su - is intrinsically bad for security. This is one  
possible use case for sudo. It makes sense in an environment where there is a  
set of users all of whom are all trusted system administrators, and they need  
to run tasks as root. The downside is that using this command, sudo doesn't  
by default logs every command that the administrator executes, but provided  
they are all trusted (all administrators are honest and responsible) then  
there should be no problem.


Bear in mind that using sudo su - is no worser than using su - directly.

Other than the above, I can't comment, because I don't really understand what  
point you are trying to make.


Regards.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Qrgui - a GUI-based QR code generator

2015-03-09 Thread tomlukeywood

i tried it
very easy to use

the only thing that could rely make it better is a .deb
file to install it


[Trisquel-users] Re : sudo make you system less secure

2015-03-09 Thread lcerf

Sure, without a password, 'sudo' is insecure. And so is 'su'!

I would actually say that 'sudo' is more secure than 'su' because:

with 'sudo', the privileges are automatically lost after some time (15  
minutes by default), whereas it is dangerous to forget about an opened root  
terminal (obtained with 'su')
when trying to access a SSH server (typically) the attacker has to guess both  
the password and the user name, whereas the latter always is root when such  
a superuser is present by default.



And, of course, 'sudo' is far more flexible. Different permissions for  
different users, not necessarily nothing or everything and, true, the  
possibility to not ask for a password for some privileges.


I consider those arguments much better than it is not the UNIX philosophy  
(whatever that means; I bet ou have the same argument against systemd!) and  
commercial organizations use su (do they?). Not to mention the problem with  
the issuing authority. Neither 'su' nor 'sudo' rely on an issuing  
authority.


That said, I see no point in using 'sudo' to run 'su'. 'sudo' alone is  
enough:

$ sudo -i

If people do not want to learn how to keep and use secure systems, use  
windows.


Trisquel is secure by default. If I remember well, the installer does not  
even accept a weak password for the user who can gain administrative  
privileges.


I invite anybody who values his/her freedoms to join us. Even if he/she does  
not want to learn anything about security!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel: Boot and wXP and w7

2015-03-09 Thread adw . email

yay