Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
Excuse me for replying here but maybe applying again won't hurt? (Anyway might you know why it didn't work last time out?)
Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
- It still would be nice to get the FSF approval, but I don't think I will actively apply for one again How come?
Re: [Trisquel-users] anyone using Trisquel for music production?
Almost forgot to post this: The current version of GNUetertics by default contains an Iceweasel addon video download helper that is not free software. The addon will be removed from the next release. If you decide to try this distro and find anything other that is not libre, please post here your findings! cheers!
[Trisquel-users] No GUI and Backup Home through Terminal
No GUI: I've had Triquel almost a year and had problems for several months but I've procrastinated and worked around the problems by accessing my jpegs and gedits through applications. But there's no GUI, no calling up the home folder, no icons on my desktop and no drag and drop functions. I think it's time to reinstall. But I want to backup my home folder files. I have an external USB harddrive that appears in a sidebar as TOSHIBA EXT. So at terminal I've got this far $ cp /home/user/ right? what next? adding TOSHIBA EXT to the line won't do it. (without quotes)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Mouse dind't work ...
Either a USB mouse or a PS/2 mouse would cost less than an adapter ... anyway, get plenty of spares.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I make a master boot record without resorting to Windows ?
More followups: The pesky motherboard may have been an unfortunate combination of flaky power supply, rejected desktop case, and/or intermittents in the motherboard. At times I could get the power LED to come on by shorting the power switch leads to each other with a hard-drive master/slave jumper, but I also had to resort to applying a reset the same way. Then I discovered (on one lucky occasion when I succeeded in accessing the BIOS) that the BIOS had been set to restart to the last setting after an interruption, and I changed that BIOS setting to something less like a shell game. Often I got the power LED light to come on by pressing down on one corner of the motherboard. Eventually, after lofting the motherboard away from any chance of shorting to the case, it wouldn't show any signs of life. Too many iffy situations. The second motherboard got me off to a better start ... upon unplugging the front-case-audio connection, the power came on once for all. I might try plopping that pesky motherboard on the kitchen table, and supplying power, keyboard, mouse, spare hard drive, and monitor to see if it will run, out of earshot of the FCC, with no case nearby. Hate to give up on the thing - Intel's D865GLC motherboards have been good to me otherwise. The others have survived my clumsy handling of them quite well. If I get a BIOS, then I'll add the necessary CD/DVD ROM drive and proceed to shoehorn those parts into another leftover case.
[Trisquel-users] Re : No GUI and Backup Home through Terminal
cp: omitting directory ‘/home/user/’ That happens because you did not use the option --recursive (-r): $ cp -r /home/user /computer/media/user/TOSHIBA But you had actually better use option --archive (-a): $ cp -a /home/user /computer/media/user/TOSHIBA 'info cp' explains those options: `-a' `--archive' Preserve as much as possible of the structure and attributes of the original files in the copy (but do not attempt to preserve internal directory structure; i.e., `ls -U' may list the entries in a copied directory in a different order). Try to preserve SELinux security context and extended attributes (xattr), but ignore any failure to do that and print no corresponding diagnostic. Equivalent to `-dR --preserve=all' with the reduced diagnostics. `-R' `-r' `--recursive' Copy directories recursively. By default, do not follow symbolic links in the source; see the `--archive' (`-a'), `-d', `--dereference' (`-L'), `--no-dereference' (`-P'), and `-H' options. Special files are copied by creating a destination file of the same type as the source; see the `--copy-contents' option. It is not portable to use `-r' to copy symbolic links or special files. On some non-GNU systems, `-r' implies the equivalent of `-L' and `--copy-contents' for historical reasons. Also, it is not portable to use `-R' to copy symbolic links unless you also specify `-P', as POSIX allows implementations that dereference symbolic links by default. I got a credit card sized usb device (or mock device) with my FSF membership that says GNU/Linux Inside! and I've plugged this credit card into several computers and got nothing. This is a Live Trisquel system (including the installer)! Once plugged, you must reboot on the USB key. Some key pressed right after the computers powers up may provides you boot options, otherwise configure the boot order in the BIOS/UEFI so that the USB key has precedence over the hard drive. Like lembas wrote, you can backup from the Live system using its graphical file manager (the partitions on the internal and external hard drives will be icons on the desktop). After that, another icon proposes you to install Trisquel. Unmount and unplug the external hard drive first so that you do not install Trisquel on it by mistake!
Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
hjen...@gmx.de wrote: Honestly - I don't know why it didn't work out last time. I suggest you ask the FSF why so they can help you understand the reasons. I'd be surprised if they didn't give a list of reasons in response. Technically ConnochaetOS was examined in great detail and it was confirmed that is meets all requirements of the Free System Distribution Guideline. Did the FSF provide you with this information? If so, what else did they say about this? Echoing what another poster said, I too am interested in seeing more Free System Distributions. Then suddenly someone spotted that one of the users used the term open source in the forum or in the wiki (which one I don't remember) instead of free software. That was the point were the entire appication process was halted. You are now contradicting yourself above which is confusing. https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html doesn't make requirements on the general public's participation in published media. The closest thing that applies is a request, not a requirement -- Please see our list of words to avoid, which are either biased, misguided or misleading, and try to avoid them in your public statements and discussions with the public. which also points to https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html. I also see nothing in the FSF's guidelines that would hold you responsible for what others say about the system you developed. That is one of the reasons I will not apply again actively. I will not dictate terms to the users regulating which language they should use. I hope you don't think the FSF is dictating such terms. You've provided no evidence that the FSF is dictating such terms. In order to avoid spreading falsehoods it would be good to get the real story from the FSF.
Re: [Trisquel-users] No GUI and Backup Home through Terminal
I'm a bit confused, no GUI you say but then you talk about sidebar. Do you mean on another computer? You'll want to use the -r parameter for recursive. And then you need to specify /full/path/to/where/you/mounted/that/disk/ The easiest way is to use a live CD or USB to do the job. And if you have a separate /home partition (can't remember whether there is one by default) you might not even need to backup before reinstall, just choose another username. Having said that, now is always a great time to make backups.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
Honestly - I don't know why it didn't work out last time. Technically ConnochaetOS was examined in great detail and it was confirmed that is meets all requirements of the Free System Distribution Guideline. Then suddenly someone spotted that one of the users used the term open source in the forum or in the wiki (which one I don't remember) instead of free software. That was the point were the entire appication process was halted. That is one of the reasons I will not apply again actively. I will not dictate terms to the users regulating which language they should use.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542X Wireless
ive had a bug with the current trisquel like this. i booted into trisquel 6 and it was able to re-enable it.
[Trisquel-users] Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542X Wireless
Hello all, I was given a Toshiba laptop today for work I did on another laptop and decided to see how it ran Trisquel GNU/Linux. Much to my surprise it seems to be able to support Trisquel nearly completely because it has the Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x chipset. It had said that wifi was on and working ,but for some reason it didn't seem to be able to search for my broadcasted SSID. Because it was doing that I decided to use the keyboard key to stop and restart wifi by hitting fn+f8. Now it says it's disabled and will not come back on. Any thoughts on how I can get the full functionality of this wifi adapter in Trisquel. Some info on the system that may or may not help: Toshiba L45-S4687 Intel Pentium dual-core T2080 Mobile Intel 943GML Express Chipset 1GB of DDR2 RAM Qualcomm Atheros 802.11 b/g wireless adapter (AR242x / AR542x according to lspci) Trisquel GNU/Linux 7.0 Belenos version of Trisquel that I am running. Thanks for the help in advance! grimlok
Re: [Trisquel-users] Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542X Wireless
Well, restarting has re-enabled it, but the card still doesn't seem to be able to find my wifi network...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Explain why fsf says that hardware with firmware that cannot be updated is free software?
Very interesting topic! I want to buy a new laptop and, in these days, I'm thinking the same things... I know little about eletronics, I read the link that says what are the Companies that sell computers with GNU/Linux preinstalled, ( https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.en.html ), maybe a Lenovo... I'm lucky because now I've no money and time for think ehehe
Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I make a master boot record without resorting to Windows ?
Good that you have been able to fix the issue at hand. Now, in spite of all the other paragraphs in this thread, there might actually be a number of real issues which prevents software from altering the MBR. So first, for clearance sake, what is an MBR and what is the GPT. Both are the initial record on a disk, and indicate the following two important things: 1) how does the disk look like (what are the [primary] partitions) and if available, where to boot from. Now GPT and MBR appear to be logically the same, yet they are not. The GPT uses what is called a protective MBR, sometimes called the GPT protected partition. Now, this really is in itself an MBR with one primary partition, the GPT. Now, there are BIOS and/or EFI firmwares which require authentication to change this part (the MBR or protective MBR). Still, if you are updating a GPT, the BIOS won't attempt to terminate that attempt, so happily the partitioner goes. GParted, Parted, FDisk, Ubuiquity or whatever else is used by the Trisquel installer will also just happily accept the situation and rewrite the GPT. GRUB 2 at the other end, needing to write into the (protective) MBR will then fail miserably and booting into whatever partition will likewise fail. It might be that your pesky motherboard is, in a desperate attempt of security, trying to halt you from altering the MBR in the first place.
Re: [Trisquel-users] No GUI and Backup Home through Terminal
I have panel application opening powers. But I can't open HOME or any other folder (everything that's mine and the computer's) from the desktop. If I open Image Viewer or GEDIT applications, then click the open (a file) menu, a window opens to select a file and the window also happens to have places on the sidebar left and files on the right. (That's where the sidebar came in.) I can only open one file at a time in that application. I can't move, rename, copy, drag or drop from that window even though I can see the files. I can open a jpeg in image viewer/right click on the image/Open in GIMP/Save a Copy from GIMP/ with a new name and location. OK. How does this look: $ cp /home/user/ /computer/media/user/TOSHIBA Here's what I get back: cp: omitting directory ‘/home/user/’ I don't get the recursive. I took a quick net look around for a glossary entry but haven't found it. I do remember coming across -r recursive once before. That I haven't done a backup for months is neglient. I have several computer issues going on and Getting a Backup is Top o the List. Now, about reinstalling devices (other issues; might need a new forum question). I got a credit card sized usb device (or mock device) with my FSF membership that says GNU/Linux Inside! and I've plugged this credit card into several computers and got nothing. It must be a dud? When I first ran into this credit card usb snafu I was having problems with Trisquel. Problems of which I was, as yet, unfamiliar. So, being desperate, I then tried installing other distros including gNewSense. I couldn't get the Trisquel on this computer to recognize anything. I tried every booting option my inexperience could realize but nothing. But first priority - I need a backup.
Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
ha! if what you say is true, that's plain stupid! Trisquel is open source!! Now I'll send the link to this page to the FSF. I expect Trisquel to be taken out of the fsf approved list by tomorrow!! I used open source as word related to Trisquel just now! I really don't think what you are saying is true though..
[Trisquel-users] 5 more LibrePlanet videos made available
More recordings released at https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet-forever-watch-five-sessions-from-2015-online For more news like this you can subscribe to the FSF newsletter at https://www.fsf.org/free-software-supporter/subscribe
Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
Then suddenly someone spotted that one of the users used the term open source in the forum or in the wiki (which one I don't remember) instead of free software. Hmmm.that's a tad odd. Maybe they just wanted you to politely advise the user to use free software instead? Because...I can't help but think there's no way that, when Trisquel was being applied, open source wasn't being used at all in its forum. Or you can always do a Parabola and maintain a forumless distro.:(
Re: [Trisquel-users] A new ConnochaetOS release
Hi, developer of ConnochaetOS here. - Hardware requirements were released with RC1, see https://forum.connochaetos.org/viewtopic.php?id=13 - Yes, the distro was discontinued, but was brought back - this time not build entirely from scratch but based on repos of Slackware and Salix, because building an entire distro from scratch is too time-consuming. - It still would be nice to get the FSF approval, but I don't think I will actively apply for one again - Freeslack is 64 bit only, ConnochaetOS is 32 bit only (although I maintain a 64 bit flavor of the slack-n-free repo), so they complement each other. There are also some differences regarding non-free and libre packages. I use freeslack's list of non-free packages plus the list from libreplanet plus Parabola's blacklist to exclude non-free packages. Additionally ConnochaetOS provides libre replacements where possible (e. g. the entire Mozilla product line). Please feel free to join the ConnochaetOS forum, since discussing other distros is a little off-topic here :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Explain why fsf says that hardware with firmware that cannot be updated is free software?
Early in my career, I realized that changing jobs meant moving to a new domicile, and that the higher rent would consume most of my improved income, so I jumped off that runaway train. Now we're seeing a similar situation in computers, with an arms race between hardware and software manufacturers to satisfy the gaming community. GNU/linux has come to our aid by providing more efficient software that make less complex (i.e., older) hardware function well enough in the fields where the rest of us toil.
