Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread catfishagain
I've been using Trisquel as my only OS for almost two years now. I used  
Ubuntu briefly and then found Richard Stallman. Was lucky with my hardware in  
that it worked without problems. Then I was inspired to get a free bios in  
the form of libreboot and got a gluglug http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/ No  
problems. The terminal although daunting at first is now my go-to guy for  
most tasks.
One thing I found very useful at first is dragging a file from a nautilus  
window and dropping it in the terminal. This gives you a working path to the  
file without having to rack your brain.

;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Certified Hardware

2015-06-01 Thread greatgnu
ohh, you didn't post this one twice! just when it was getting interesting.  
Don't be patanioid! Stay fres!


[Trisquel-users] Re : Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread lcerf
C++ is indeed a meta-language, i.e., many different styles are possible: some  
write C code with the STL, some write truly oriented object code with  
polymorphism and so on, some write STL-like code with iterators everywhere  
and function objects, some write generic code (the templates), etc. Many C++  
programmers ignore parts of the language (say, no template, no function  
objects, no malloc/free) to get a code that is, arguably, easier to  
understand. Bjarne Stroustrup (the creator of C++) argue in the opposite way:  
that combining the different paradigms leads to a more concise and powerful  
code.


Talking about languages with many different styles, I forgot about Perl that  
would be between Python and AWK. It is however much slower than both of them,  
the grammar of the language is (even theoretically) more complicated than  
that of any popular language and the so many ways to write one thing in Perl  
really is problematic, I believe. The authors of the language would obviously  
disagree: they see that as letting the programmer express her creativity.


I did not talk about Shell scripting but I do that a lot when the problem to  
solve is small, involves files, or text inputs (but without the need for  
AWK's power), etc. However the Shell by itself is ugly, slow and an horror to  
debug. That is why I now see Shell scripts of hundreds of lines as an  
abomination. For really small problems, Shell scripting is fun. It is like a  
puzzle: how to chain with pipes extremely efficient but specific commands  
(for text processing: head, tail, cat, tr, wc, cut, paste, comm, join, sort,  
uniq, grep, etc.) to get the correct output?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!

2015-06-01 Thread catfishagain

My desktop


Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
Both very good links right there, I would recommend the person who posts this  
thread reading them. Even I am going to read them :D.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread tomlukeywood
also if your wondering thats why alot of programmers still today use i j and  
k for counters

at least thats what a c programming book told me


[Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

What is the use of stating implicit none at the start of your FORTRAN?

The picture shoes what a user on Reddit said.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
So is counting in decimal values useless.I think so. Unless you are simply  
counting and printing them to the screen, other than that it seems useless,  
like you will always do a for loop through an array with integers it makes no  
sense to do so with a decimal counter as indexes in arrays are always  
represented by integers and not deciamls.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

As in the RMS analogy?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How inconvenient freedom can be?

2015-06-01 Thread blade . vp2020

Trisquel is my only OS and has been since 2010
But I' not coming from  windows
I'm  come from Solaris and net bsd
for me Trisquel is user-friendly
I love it



[Trisquel-users] Ulatency - Better performance?

2015-06-01 Thread grandizo
There is ulatency package in the Trisquel 7 repo. Has someone tested it and  
can that software improves a system performance? Inert use cfq I/O scheduler  
by default but it can be changed to bfq that is as default in Trisquel. How  
about prelink and preload? Should I also use them in the same system? I use  
3.13.x generic kernel version at the moment.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
Oh okay. But. Lol. Does no one count in floating points at all. I have never  
requires counting in anything else than integers tho. So that's a fair point  
I guess.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Do you have any advice on good Fortran or C books.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Okay. No picture. My browser does not support the upload dialog.

Anyway basically the guy on reddit said if I do not state implicit none  
then all variables starting with I,j,k,l,m,n will all be of data type  
integer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your Desktop!

2015-06-01 Thread nicolasmaia

Nice!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread tegskywalker
Python is great for web applications as well when you pair it with PyPy and  
Falcon framework.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Sites Server and Forum Software?

2015-06-01 Thread tegskywalker
Are you guys running HHVM for your PHP tasks instead of the standard package?  
You may get a big performance boost:


Trisquel 6:  
https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/wiki/Prebuilt-Packages-on-Ubuntu-12.04


Trisquel 7:  
https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/wiki/Prebuilt-packages-on-Ubuntu-14.04




[Trisquel-users] New user switched from OSX

2015-06-01 Thread demian . dee

Hello fellas, this is ThunderDee from Italy.
Recently I've switched my 2008 MacPro into a one OS system, Trisquel 7!
I love Trisquel, it's so fast and I think I'm gonna install it into another  
computer but I'm not so pratical about using linux systems in general and  
with theme-customisation (i've saw few themes from you and I would like to  
try).
If is okay for you, I'm gonna post here some problems I would like to learn  
how to solve with your help of course.


Bye for now,
T.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
FreeBASIC is awesome. Bringing back the feelingnof Visual Basic. Any other  
old languages?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Certified Hardware

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Lol.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Certified Hardware

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Lol.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Thank you very much. ;D


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread tomlukeywood

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FOR C(advanced)
this book isnt that accessible but has loads and loads of in depth info about  
c and assembly


you can buy the book here:
https://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781466568242

or if you dont have the money use the pdf here:
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00558589031688751903

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FOR C(advanced)

a very good c book for more advanced c programmers i have is expert c  
programming deep c secrets

heres a pdf:
http://www.e-reading.club/bookreader.php/138815/Linden_-_Expert_C_Programming:_Deep_C_Secrets.pdf


FOR c++(and so for c aswell)(begginers)

also if you want a more beginners book this one helped me alot its for c++(i  
started in c++ before i learnt c)

but as the languages are very very similar it can also
be used as a c programming book:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/beginning-c-through-game-programming-mike-dawson/1100025792?ean=9781435457423

you can also get it as a pdf from here:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/beginning-c-through-game-programming-mike-dawson/1100025792?ean=9781435457423
===
FOR c++(and so for c)(intermediate)
theres another book called thinking in c++
that again is for c++ but i found it very helpfull with
my c programming and learn c++ as-well cant hurt

you can buy the book here
http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html

a online html version of the book:
http://www.smart2help.com/e-books/ticpp-2nd-ed-vol-one/Frames.html


FOR FORTRAN(intermediate)

you can also buy the book here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Expert-C-Programming-Deep-C-Secrets-Peter-van-der-Linden-/161693233748?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3hash=item25a5aaf254

you can buy the book here to support the authors
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/modern-fortran-explained-9780199601417?cc=gblang=en;

or use the attached pdf if you can not afford the book
===


Re: [Trisquel-users] New user switched from OSX

2015-06-01 Thread nicolasmaia
Welcome! There are many active users in the forum that will help you with  
troubleshooting :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread tomlukeywood

COBOL is a old one:
http://www.mainframegurukul.com/tutorials/programming/cobol/cobol-tutorial.html

also this one was ment to be the first high level language:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankalk%C3%BCl


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
I must say something about Lisp. The idea of operators being functions is  
truly awesome.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Will check it out. :D thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New user switched from OSX

2015-06-01 Thread greatgnu

Ciao ThunderDee e benvenuto nella comunità di Trischello!


Re: [Trisquel-users] getting an ubuntu notebook and installing debian 8?

2015-06-01 Thread marioxcc . MT
When buying any computing hardware, you must research whether it works with  
free software. You can start with h-node.org. The ideal procedure is (1) to  
build a list of all relevant components (usually the main IC manufacturer  
names and models), then (2) investigate whether each of them works with free  
software. Start by searching manufacturer name and model concatenated with  
“linux”, “drivers”, “firmware”, etcetera. Also look in the  
manufacturer web site and the kernel, X11 and related software documentation.  
It is unlikely that you will be able to verify that every component works  
with free software, because manufacturers don't often provide that  
information and it's not readily available elsewhere so you will have to run  
some risk that you will not be able to use the full functionality. The most  
problematic hardware is wireless NICs and graphics controller.


Search about “Intel Active Management Technology” and why it should be  
avoided (suggestion: start searching this forum).


Consider buying a computer certified to work with free software, like the  
Libreboot X200, which is probably the best option regarding free software.  
You will be supporting the development of free software and the reverse  
engineering effort (See the work done to disable AMT and ME in the X200).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread tomlukeywood
just relised i by mistake put one of the links in the wrong place but oh  
well...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Nah. It's all good.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New user switched from OSX

2015-06-01 Thread demian . dee

Thanks for the answers guys!! Grazie per le risposte!!

I would ask you what I have to write in the terminal to make automount my usb  
memories and my second HD without going to Trisquel menu, just like I had in  
MacOSX.


I find troubles sometimes typing with my apple keyboard inside abrowser like  
the cursor jump backward and sometimes some word buttons doesn't work.
With youtube videos especially when I jump forward the video, seems like  
there is a problem with the flash plugin (even with facebook videos), anyone  
solved in a different way?.


To SuperTramp: I saw your desktop I would ask you where I could find some  
instructions for dummies like me about how to install custom themes in  
trisquel and in general about gnome / xcfe differences.


My Macpro is used by my parents and I want to make trisquel more  
user-friendly than my old OS.


Thanks in advance for any information you are able to provide.
Bye for now,
T.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions on old programming languages

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi

Oh yes. Nimrod or Nim is an awesome language.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fortran Question Right Here

2015-06-01 Thread deavmi
I am taking little baby steps into this language. And I think will will begin  
to like it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New user switched from OSX

2015-06-01 Thread greatgnu
Thunderdee - Io ho usato gnome flash per vari mesi pero non ho mai  
investigato molto su di esso.. Per quanto riguarda la personalizzazione di  
Xfce posso sì spiegarti come si fa. Pero chiaramente devi avere installato  
l'ambiente desktop Xfce.
Se tale è il caso, sentiti pure libero di mandarmi una mail. Ti farò una  
piccola guida. Ciao!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Backup (Duplicity) not working

2015-06-01 Thread tomlukeywood

if you run it from a terminal it might give you some usefull output


[Trisquel-users] Re : New user switched from OSX

2015-06-01 Thread lcerf
See https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/play-videos-without-using-flash for  
solutions to play videos on many popular sites (including YouTube).


[Trisquel-users] Is Belenos Moving to SystemD?

2015-06-01 Thread ka1cey

Hello,

I recently did my monthly dist-upgrade, and heard mention of Pieces of  
systemd, like the journal and services, getting installed.  After the  
upgrade, I went looking for the cli tools like systemctl and journalctl;  
they're not present.  How much of systemd do I now have?  Are my system's  
services now managed by a hybrid of systemd, upstart, and the old sysv init  
scripts?


Thanks,

Dave

https://social.2mb.solutions/davehunt on GNUSocial




Re: [Trisquel-users] getting an ubuntu notebook and installing debian 8?

2015-06-01 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
The caveat of trying to do the homework yourself is that if it works with  
Linux it might require a blob that comes with Linux but not with  
Linux-libre. In a similar vein some devices proudly state that their driver  
is open source, yet fail to mention that it is more or less useless with a  
related proprietary firmware.


One way to find out is boot a live media of a libre operating system and see  
for yourself. Of course this requires hands on access.


So with these things in mind, it might be easiest to buy something from a  
vendor that guarantees it works on libre operating systems.


[Trisquel-users] Re : getting an ubuntu notebook and installing debian 8?

2015-06-01 Thread lcerf
If you do not want Gluglug's X200 (the only solution with a free BIOS), the  
easiest way to go is http://libre.thinkpenguin.com


Everything will work out of the box. Trisquel will even come pre-installed  
and 25% of the benefits on your command will be donated to the Trisquel  
project.


If, for some reason, you neither want a ThinkPenguin laptop, then the easy  
recipe (which does not involve hours of search on the Web) is to buy a  
computer with an Intel graphical chipset and to assume that the Wifi card  
will not work, i.e., that you will have to acquire a substitute card or an  
adapter from http://libre.thinkpenguin.com or http://tehnoetic.com


If you want to substitute the card, *avoid* the following brands that are  
known to implement DRMs at a hardware level (preventing you from using  
unauthorized peripherals): Acer, Apple, Dell, HP, Lenovo/IBM, Sony, and  
Toshiba.


Something more you may want to spend the time checking (for your freedoms,  
not for compatibility) is whether the Intel processor implements treacherous  
computing: vPro, TXT, AMT are the words to search (and hopefully not find)  
on the page for the processor on http://ark.intel.com