[Trisquel-users] New GNU ethical criteria for code repositories emphasize privacy, freedom, and copyleft

2015-10-16 Thread calinou

http://www.fsf.org/news/gnu-ethical-repo-criteria

Place your bets. Will any of GitHub, GitLab, NotABug, git.framasoft.org be  
considered ethical?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Dual Boot Macbook Pro 2, 2 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.6.8 rEFInd

2015-10-16 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Does the disk work in another machine?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternate proposal for FCC's (indirect) ban on free software : require the release of code

2015-10-16 Thread chris
Yea- Dave was in a much better position to organize the developers to get  
behind this. I'm glad he took part. He saw others jumping on it and started  
working on stuff as well. It really took quite a few people to pull all this  
off and most of it was really even just the dedication of a small handful-  
maybe half a dozen people or so- and then some participation by a few dozen  
others. None of it is/was terribly organized. It was just a bunch of people  
forming basically two or three groups/mailing lists and then everybody going  
off into there own worlds of existence here or there to further the effort.  
We're not actually in agreement on everything- but ultimately it's close  
enough.


For example: We were really not wanting to make any proposals to the FCC and  
Dave was. The reason being I believe was we can get more people to oppose it  
if there is solution. That is to say we really just want the FCC to drop it.  
In a sense Dave is hi-jacking it in an effort to do more. While I don't think  
anybody objects to the more part it could hurt the end results in getting the  
FCC to back off.


Anyway- I'm still not convinced the FCC is listening to us. They responded  
October 8th and basically said we don't want to do X and yet they still have  
rules and proposed rules that will result in causing the problems.


We'll see what happens. If ThinkPenguin is hit we'll go down screaming and  
point out every hypocritical things the FCC has said about not wanting to ban  
"open source". But even if they don't attack us for not locking devices down  
the end results are still a problem if upstream uses it as a reason to refuse  
release of code (they already are using it at as a reason by the way).







[Trisquel-users] Dual Boot Macbook Pro 2, 2 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.6.8 rEFInd

2015-10-16 Thread blake . molde

Hello, and thank you for your assistance!

I'm trying to get my friend started with free software and have had one hell  
of a time getting Trisquel to boot on an older Macbook Pro 2,2 running OSX  
10.6.8.


rEFInd is installed and working properly, as far as I can tell. I have the  
Trisquel 7.0 i686 iso burned to a DVD. When the Macbook boots, rEFInd comes  
up but the disc is not recognized. Scanning for bootable optical discs (by  
pressing ESC) does not fix the problem.


I am willing to do whatever is takes to get Trisquel installed on this  
computer! Any guidance is greatly appreciated. I am a novice but eager to  
help my friend on the path towards liberation. I've been unable to find any  
documentation anywhere that explains what the problem might be.


In fact, Ruben, who maintains Trisquel, was trying to help us during the  
FSF's 30 birthday celebration, but we weren't able to resolve the issue!


Please help!

Thank you!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Dual Boot Macbook Pro 2, 2 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.6.8 rEFInd

2015-10-16 Thread blake . molde
Unfortunately, holding down alt/option while powering on only displays the  
hard disk with Mac OS. Interestingly, when the same iso is on a bootable USB,  
rEFInd finds it, but because of the BS firmware, it refuses to boot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Dual Boot Macbook Pro 2, 2 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.6.8 rEFInd

2015-10-16 Thread albin
It doesn't sound like rEFInd is working properly. Can't you just hold the alt  
key and when powering on to select the Trisquel installer? (It should be  
incorrectly labelled as Windows.) I know that GRUB works well with many  
different macbook models.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel+orca Tutorial/walk-through podcast, ep.4 is up

2015-10-16 Thread Dave Hunt
Thanks; I like the way 4 and 5 came out, and think 5 is my best yet.
Feeling more confidence in my speaking.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Dual Boot Macbook Pro 2, 2 Intel Core 2 Duo 10.6.8 rEFInd

2015-10-16 Thread blake . molde
Embarassing. It turns out the disc I was using was corrupted during the  
burning process. I'm happy to announce I'm writing this with the freshly  
installed Trisquel 7.0.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel+orca Tutorial/walk-through podcast, ep.4 is up

2015-10-16 Thread greatgnu

Good job Dave!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-10-16 Thread greatgnu

viejito you have had my vote since the day one I came here. Best Troll ever!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unified Approach to Privacy and Security Documentation

2015-10-16 Thread greatgnu

Di niente.. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel+orca Tutorial/walk-through podcast, ep.4 is up

2015-10-16 Thread matthew dyer
Hi Dave,

Downloaded and will give it a listen.

Matthew



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Subject: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel+orca Tutorial/walk-through podcast, ep.4 is 
up

Released today:  the long-awaited, and oft-requested Trisquel installation 
walk-through, in which I install from the live media, onto
an old laptop, whose hard drive had been shredded pre-install.   Link below.

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/dahunt/m/installation-demo/

HTH, and TNX 4 Listening,



Dave




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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel+orca Tutorial/walk-through podcast, ep.4 is up

2015-10-16 Thread Dave Hunt
I eagerly await your feedback!

Thanks,

Dave




Re: [Trisquel-users] Making radeon work again by bringing back Linux-libre 3.4

2015-10-16 Thread gnuser

Also in my case I think I had to run
sudo update-initramfs -u -K all
in order to apply it to all kernels.


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: ASUS Chromebook C201 now supported in libreboot - ARM CPU

2015-10-16 Thread shiretoko
"You have to understand the reason we do this. You preach freedom too, but  
you use non-free software too don't you?"


The point is: how does someone "preach freedom"?
Telling people to value freedom is one thing, criticizing others for making  
compromises while doing the very same thing, that's what I don't like.


Many people here in this forum here claim to be hardcore-uptight when it  
comes to freedom and think they have the right to blame other people for  
making compromises.
Well, guess what. I'm going to say something many people here don't want to  
here:
In this community _nobody_ is completely uptight about freedom and  
_everybody_ is making compromises.
I know one person who is really uptight about freedom, even more uptight than  
rms:
it is my grandma. She is not using _any_ computer or digital device  
whatsoever, and there are lots of people in this world who do - not because  
they value freedom, but for other reasons. Most of them don't do it because  
they want to. They are just poor - think if the people living in africa. I  
don't want to change places with them.


I heard people here suggesting others to quit their university career because  
they were forced to make a compromise.
Like: "Using a pc with non-free blobs like I do, that's ok, but using this  
other piece of nonfree software for the sake of your education ... rather  
leave this university and get a job in a factory!"
"As free as possible" is not thinkpenguin, it's not gluglug, it's not lemote.  
It is: no pc. And that's possible.
And even if people don't want to utter this truth, it is and was always the  
truth.
We all make compromises, and we should not look down on others just because  
they make more compromises than we do.

Everybody has a different threshold, and that's fine.

The important thing is: we should be concious about freedom, we should care  
about the issue, we should try to stay as free as -for us personally-  
acceptable, we should always strive for a solution that is more free and at  
the same time fulfills our needs.


I don't criticize you for your business, Chris. I criticize you for your way  
of criticizing others for their doings.






Re: [Trisquel-users] Executable script won't execute in panel

2015-10-16 Thread gnuser
Not really. It runs the script when I double click the file, but if I drag  
the file to the lower panel, creating a "shrotcut", clicking it will just  
open gedit.
I can't believe I will really have to put my scripts into a specific folder  
in linux (which I forgot which one, will have to research) in order for this  
to work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternate proposal for FCC's (indirect) ban on free software : require the release of code

2015-10-16 Thread amenex
Be careful what you wish for. The Don-Not-Call list and Caller ID are useless  
because callers can forge the ID's that appear on our Caller-ID enabled  
phones. That stifles commerce carried out over the telephone. Should the FCC  
ever figure out a way to require revealing the IPv6 address of phone devices  
to the recipients of phone calls, then it's imperative that the IPv6 address  
be immutably associated with the calling device in order for Caller ID and  
the Do-Not-Call list to become effective.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Feud between Chris & Francis Over! (I think)

2015-10-16 Thread devotika

hahaha, that is funny. Equality for the win!



Re: [Trisquel-users] Executable script won't execute in panel

2015-10-16 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

It's probably best you set the pref to "ask".

One way is to use bash -c "path/to/script" as the target of the shortcut.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Feud between Chris & Francis Over! (I think)

2015-10-16 Thread greatgnu

Yeah, that guy jxself is excellent.
I recommend Paris for your "manage aeu duĂ  (or whatever that writes). I hear  
the city is super romantic. Just leave your laptops at home - you won't need  
them. :)

PEACE


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel+orca Tutorial/walk-through podcast, ep.4 is up

2015-10-16 Thread Dave Hunt
Released today:  the long-awaited, and oft-requested Trisquel
installation walk-through, in which I install from the live media, onto
an old laptop, whose hard drive had been shredded pre-install.   Link below.

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/dahunt/m/installation-demo/

HTH, and TNX 4 Listening,



Dave




Re: [Trisquel-users] Executable script won't execute in panel

2015-10-16 Thread keiseiyamashita
Instead of dragging the file there, try right-clicking on the panel itself  
and creating a custom launcher. You should use the path to your script as the  
command. That is what works for me. Other than that, I'm not sure what could  
be different in our set-ups.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Unified Approach to Privacy and Security Documentation

2015-10-16 Thread nishihai

Thanks though!
Grazie


Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-10-16 Thread davidvargas1

Vote for me as the best "TROLL AWARDEE"


Re: [Trisquel-users] Feud between Chris & Francis Over! (I think)

2015-10-16 Thread davidvargas1

That it is a wise advice, because Laptops in France speak frog!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Alternate proposal for FCC's (indirect) ban on free software : require the release of code

2015-10-16 Thread davidvargas1

Chris

I read their docker document that they submitted to the FCC and the  
sponsorship they gather is huge!


Re: [Trisquel-users] New GNU ethical criteria for code repositories emphasize privacy, freedom, and copyleft

2015-10-16 Thread jason
From these criteria, GitHub will get an F. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] New GNU ethical criteria for code repositories emphasize privacy, freedom, and copyleft

2015-10-16 Thread nicolasmaia
NAB will get a good rating for sure. Savannah will probably be the highest  
ranked (big surprise).


Re: [Trisquel-users] ASUS Chromebook C201 now supported in libreboot - ARM CPU

2015-10-16 Thread dbpalma9
These public discussion are very destructive, both Chris and Francis are two  
of the most recognized people in the hardware field of the free software  
movement. So I would recommend both of them to save those accusations to  
themselves, and attack each other via email. Constructive discussions,  
however, are welcome. If you don't want to work together, that's fine too, no  
one will force you, and maybe it's better that way, competition, which is  
lacking in this business for obvious reasons, IS contructive.


OFFTOPIC:
The world has been fucked up since the dawn of civilizations, only new f'd up  
things have risen and some old ones have fallen. I don't agree with this  
distopian view of the world and that alarmism that has been contributing to  
some some of those things that you've refered(like spying and hatred). If we  
want the world to get better, we must work to accomplish that, both Chris and  
Francis are doing that, but this kind of fights only weaken their companies  
and in part, the free software movement.


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel+Orca walk-through/tutorial Podcast, Ep. 5 is up

2015-10-16 Thread Dave Hunt
I installed, now what?

Glad you asked, check out the latest episode for a few suggestions and
exercises.  Link here!

https://goblinrefuge.com/mediagoblin/u/dahunt/m/i-installed-now-what/


Happy Listening,


Dave  H.