Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Disabled plugin. Ok. But it CAN be enabled. I want to delete EME at all.


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread enduzzer
As time passes, old is new again. Fads come and go but the basic desktop  
metaphor (which CDE is) remains. All else is icing on the cake.


Would love to see somebody making a CDE packaging for a distro so that it  
could be optional when installing the system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread enduzzer
So far, yes-- until I get bored. I'll definitely come back to this again if  
need be now that I know how to do it.


CDE is basically like Xfce 3 or Solaris. After all, it's only a skin.  
Underhood, it's a modern OS (in this case Debian powered GNU/Linux). You have  
all the software out there plus what you can find for the CDE system (native  
programs seem to start with a 'dt' every one of them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce#Early_versions


Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Here is useful information on (trying to) remove the spying in unity  
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://fixubuntu.com/


Tris 6 is based on 12.04, no spying there and Tris 7 on 14.04 where this  
needs to be applied.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso

2016-05-17 Thread jason
Yes, I know. I'm talking of the general advice because dd is not a  
general-purpose ISO-making program so I am throwing that caution out there  
for people.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
We are talking about "rip[ping] a DVD straight to .iso". /dev/sda is not a  
DVD.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso

2016-05-17 Thread jason

"The ISO is the bit for bit data on the disk"

Not exactly. It's supposed to be an ISO 9660 file system. So dd if=/dev/sda  
of=hdd.iso would not be an ISO image (because /dev/sda for me is ext4.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660


[Trisquel-users] Re : If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf

How do you deal with not having a smartphone in your daily life?

Very well, thank you.

I'm really interested to hear your (and others) real-life experience, and  
cases where you miss having one


You do not miss what you have never owned.

That said, the moment where I recognize a cell phone would be convenient is  
when I get lost (I am terrible at orientation) and when I am late (to warn  
whoever waits for me). The two situations often usually are combined.


Also, some people are mad at me, because they want to warn me that they are  
going to be late or because they want to change plans at the last minute, but  
cannot contact me.


Emergency contacts with friends and family?

Everybody asks me that. In 33 years, I have never had to make an emergency  
call. Maybe I am lucky. But I spend most of my time at home (with a land  
line) and at the university (with a land line too). If in the street, there  
would usually be people around. With cell phones.


And public phones still work (I must be the last one to use them, rarely  
though).


So, I do not see many situations where I could save a life with a cell  
phone...


Agenda reminders? Taking notes?

All in my laptop. I work on my laptop.

Playing chess?

I do not play chess.

Alarm clock?

Rockbox (the free operating system for my music player) has an alarm clock. I  
connect the player to a speaker I put on my bedside table and wakes up every  
morning with a playlist that I specially made for this purpose.


What if you don't sleep at home but you need to wake up?

I have my laptop with me, let it on, and install a crontab (here to wake up  
at 8am):

DISPLAY=:0
0 8 * * * rhythmbox-client --play

Various timers? For sport, cooking...

There is a clock in the kitchen. And sports, well, I do not do any. I  
should...


Music player? You answered that one, but the downside is having to use one  
more item instead of just one.


Again, I only carry the Sansa Clip Zip: it is tiny and can be clipped on your  
pocket. Very convenient. And Rockbox simply is great: http://rockbox.org


Web? E-mail?

The laptop. My wife complains that I spend too much time on that forum  
already!


Calculator?

There is a Rockbox application for that. But the Sansa Clip Zip is not made  
to be used as a calculator (arrows to move from a key to another). Anyway, I  
do not really need a calculator unless I am working on my computer, where I  
sometimes use enhanced "calculators" such as Scilab or Maxima!


Well, in pubs and restaurants, there always is the famous division to make  
but since everybody (but me) has a smartphone, I do not take care of those  
calculations. Anyway, since, usually, I am as well the only one paying cash,  
I just pay "the rest" at the end (in Brazil, tips are included in the check).


[Trisquel-users] Re : I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
Updating fundamental libraries can create issue. If you want to live on the  
cutting edge, try Parabola (a rolling release) rather than Trisquel.


Freenet probably is out of Trisquel's repository because upstream (i.e.,  
Ubuntu) does not have it either. It does not mean it raises freedom issues (I  
do not think it does).


I do not know why Tomboy was excluded. Notice that Tomboy is programmed in  
C#, a technology patented by Microsoft. It is not, per se, a freedom issue  
but puts the program at risks.


[Trisquel-users] Re : I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
mpg321 is free software. It is in Trisquel's repository. But it does not have  
the dependencies (nor the recommended packages) you mention. You know you had  
better use the package manager, right?


[Trisquel-users] Re : I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
Here is the documentation to install Unity on Trisquel 7:  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-unity-desktop-environment-and-create-session-entry-trisquel-70


[Trisquel-users] Re : Manually starting X: virtual terminal switching issue

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
The first command starts the init script that launches LightDM. The second  
command directly call the LightDM binary. So the difference is what is in  
/etc/init.d/lightdm (the init script).


[Trisquel-users] Re : Abrowser version on Trisquel 6

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
You can install an older kernel (what matters for hardware support) on  
Trisquel 7. https://jxself.org/linux-libre/ has Linux-libre 3.4.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread jabjabs
I will say that personally, I do still use a smart phone (no Google, only  
f-droid stuff) but that is part a requirement of my job and secondly - this  
is one point where I am directly trading privacy for convenience. Having a  
phone in an emergency situation (it has happened before) was literally a life  
saver. I understand that relationship and the issues of these devices but  
sometimes you have to make the personal choice of what means the most to you.


I do not endorse these things but I am somewhat forced into the position of  
using them, I hope it isn't forever.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf

The ISO is the bit for bit data on the disk. 'dd' applies:
$ dd if=/dev/sr0 of=dvd.iso


Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread onpon4

> Similar layout to Windows, easy to switch / get used to

This is entirely customized for Trisquel, so I don't think this should be  
considered as a "pro" for Flashback. Any desktop environment can be modified  
to look like Windows (even GNOME Shell, via extensions).


> doesn't depend on hardware-accelerated graphics (think about libreboot  
users)


I'd like to note that GNOME Shell doesn't, either. It actually runs  
surprisingly well without it. I don't know about Cinnamon or KDE or Unity,  
though. Every other one I can think of does not require any hardware  
acceleration.


> supports access for handicapped people

An advantage not shared by all DEs, but it is shared by GNOME Shell and MATE.

> since it's GNOME (popular) many dependencies for other programs are already  
included


I don't know whether or not this is technically true by some sort of  
accident, but I doubt it's true in any special way for GNOME, at least. In  
any case, it's kind of irrelevant since the b


> No switchables users by default

Not true. You can create new accounts. Ubiquity just doesn't help you with  
this when you install the system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread onpon4

Firefox's EME support is implemented as a plugin. TBB disables all plugins.

Also, I think you're taking the responsibility of setting up a program to  
work safely with Tor too lightly.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie

Here is a cartoon by "Bors", about the Donald



Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread sitereg

> And second bug: the Unity have button with Ubuntu logo, I right?

No, it must have Trisquel logo.

https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/belenos/helpers/make-unity


Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Why not something like Cinnamon, which has a "natural" GNOME Shell layout and  
a fallback mode at the same time?

Or Xfce.


Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
You need not compile from source. The Unity Tweak Tool allows you to turn off  
the online features of Dash, the search function. See  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-unity-desktop-environment-and-create-session-entry-trisquel-70




Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko
Unity? I like this interface. But it has privacy issues. I need to get source  
code and remove this. Then I can use this.

And second bug: the Unity have button with Ubuntu logo, I right?


[Trisquel-users] Re : CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread mtlben
Wow, that's a blast from the past as far as I am concerned.  Memories of my  
first internship in 1996 :)!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread greatgnu

https://media.giphy.com/media/TQh3nVXVx9Xlm/giphy.gif


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread greatgnu

faceborg.



Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread ilreh
I really like GNOME Fallback however I understand the complains. But one can  
do something about it. Let me explain:


GNOME Fallback (as in Trisquel 7) Pros:
+ Similar layout to Windows, easy to switch / get used to
+ doesn't depend on hardware-accelerated graphics (think about libreboot  
users)

+ supports access for handicapped people
+ stable, around for a long time
+ since it's GNOME (popular) many dependencies for other programs are already  
included


GNOME Fallback (as in Trisquel 7) Cons:
- No searchable menus / app search
- No switchables users by default
- (there are probably more)

So I sugged sticking with GNOME Fallback but also including software like  
Cardapio (better integrated, without the internet-search stuff included for  
privacy, probably needs some work) for the menu and replacing the default  
menu, adding at least 2 seats in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf by default, so  
ctrl+alt+f8 works and 2 users / accounts can be logged in at the same time.  
Some minor changes (like making Windows-button open the menu by default)  
would also make an easier experience.


I think with just a bit of work, GNOME Fallback could be the perfect balance  
between all requirements. As it is now, it's a little bit too dusty.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Ok.
I executing that commands (this means I want to close this topic):
$ su -
Password:
# forumadmin
topicctl *id*
close
stopctl
quit
# exit
$ exit


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Go ahead, but it will be lots if work for little gain and you will probably  
throw up problems you did not anticipate.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko
I compiled IceCat many times, and I won. I just wanted to include my (test)  
EV CA and certificate. I need to write my changes to text file and check new  
versions for new DRM.

I hate DRM and I need to remove this.
I will be starting the work soon. I need to check all code.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Torbutton just proxies traffic through Tor, which is not enough to give you  
anonymity. TBB blocks code execution, so that would include the DRM schemes.
Tor Browser Bundle connects through Tor. You probably shouldn't use it for  
anything else.
It will be too much work to just download it to remove the "bad words"  
(presumably you mean compiling from source). Its development progresses at  
such a quick rate that you might forget to get the newer version, or compile  
it wrong or something. You are being too particular about this. If FSF was a  
Church you would be a zealous defender of the faith.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread taknamay

Then I would bring Ubuntu MATE back in time with me, I suppose.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko
If I port Torbutton to my browser and install NoScript, I can get all TBB  
security?

If not:
IceCat is Firefox, but ONLY DRM removed and URL's/copyrights changed to GNU?  
If yes, I will download TBB and remove code lines with "DRM", "EME" and other  
bad words for personal use.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel GNU/Linux code tracker

2016-05-17 Thread mtsio

i "The page isn't redirecting properly"


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
It's actually kind of appealing, in a retro 90s way, like Game Boy games or  
astronauts' space snacks. In a 90s way, mind. Are you intending to actually  
use it every day?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Tor Browser Bundle is configured so that you do not reveal your identity by  
mistake. It is very easy to do, most people have revealed their identity  
without knowing. You might think "these browsers are libre, they make me  
anonymous" but they still reveal things that are unique, like system fonts,  
screen orientation, unique browser text string identifier, operating system,  
etc. They may not connect through Tor correctly too.
It is not a warning you should take lightly. If you want Tor, use TorBB:  
https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en#warning
Or don't use it at all. Seriously, nefarious types watch Tor users, and  
revealing your identity can sometimes be very damaging. For example, someone  
set up a Tor exit node as an experiment, and picked up sensetive, unencrypted  
communications from governments and UN personelle. You might make a similar  
mistake. Who knows?
Use Tor Browser Bundle or don't use it at all. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
It is libre, and in my opinion kind of crap, but the data-collection is a  
turn-off, but as long as you use it right then there is no harm.

Whatever, it is your computer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread mcz
Faceborg? That's one nerdy, deep, meaningful play on word:  
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/Picard_as_Locutus.jpg


Kudos :)

Err, I mean Qapla ! I mean I really need to shut up.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko

I will not be install TBB. I will be configure IceCat & Abrowser.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread mcz

How do you deal with not having a smartphone in your daily life?

Here's a weird auto Q where I try to answer to my own questions, but I'm  
really interested to hear your (and others) real-life experience, and cases  
where you miss having one :


Emergency contacts with friends and family? Well, they're probably better off  
calling professionals (firefighters, police etc.), but still. What about  
making the call yourself, if needed? That's a tougher one.


Agenda reminders? Taking notes? Ok, root_vegetable suggested a paper version.  
This could work for me, although it's a bit annoying. I'd need to have a bag  
with me at all times. Or not, If I use super small items.


Playing chess? Better play at home, focused.

Alarm clock? Just have a dedicated one. What if you don't sleep at home but  
you need to wake up? There are probably easy ways, but not as convenient.


Various timers? For sport, cooking... Again, possible to have a dedicated  
item. And on the go, it's possible 'and welcomed) to train without a timer  
once in a while.


Music player? You answered that one, but the downside is having to use one  
more item instead of just one.


Web? E-mail? At home, at work, a wifi hotspot.

Calculator? Fingers. Just kidding (well, partly...).


Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Ok. I will install KDE, not Unity.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread mcz
Thanks, I'm definitely going to consider a good old paper agenda. With a few  
good habits, I can check it every morning, noon etc. and work my memory  
instead of using the smartphone's.
I can play games when the phone is on. I can get a simple alarm clock instead  
of using my phone. And on the go, I'd still have the smartphone to replace  
all that (except the paper agenda).


The alternative is to use a Replicant smartphone in Airplane mode most of the  
time. The reasoning is that "unproven bad modem isolation" is actually  
something to consider: http://redmine.replicant.us/boards/33/topics/7383
"On the other hand, if it is only connected to the SoC through a dedicated  
channel, it has to rely upon the SoC's cooperation to access more hardware.  
This requires an explicit cooperation from the software running on the CPU. I  
don't see any way for the modem to use a weakness in Samsung-RIL to access  
more features."
"Good modem isolation is enough to ensure that the modem doesn't gain further  
hardware access. However, since free hardware doesn't exist yet, it is very  
hard to actually know for sure how isolated the modem really is."


This makes the data on the phone relatively safe. But since it's not a 100%  
proof, it's better to keep the data inside not too personal. Boring agenda  
entries should be ok. even quick notes.
The downside: Airplane mode isn't enough to stop tracking I think (even  
though it's good enough for airplanes). And removing the battery removes the  
advantage of the agenda.


The question is: do I care this much about tracking? I don't like it, but i  
don't care that much. Yet the Airplane mode doesn't feel satisfying.


Well, only one choice left.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread greatgnu

use torbb.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
It does not really matter. It is not ideal, but Tor Browser is designed to  
"blend in" and act like Firefox on Windows, while blocking really nasty stuff  
around the internet.
So don't use it if you are overly concerned about it, do if you want  
reasonable anonymity.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make our forums safer

2016-05-17 Thread mcz

Let's put it another way.

Let's consider a malicious URL. Does it matter if the URL I share is from a  
safe search engine results page? No, because as soon as you click on the that  
URL, eventually you'll end up on the page anyway by clicking on the malicious  
URL.


A bottle of poison shared in a (supposedly) safe box doesn't change a thing.  
It's up to you to check whether the box is worth opening, or if you have  
taken your anti-poison beforehand.


As for free search engines, duckduckgo, startpage and ixquick are supposedly  
better than google and co.

But it's still a service on someone else's server.
Searx is a meta search engine that collects the query results from several  
engines, and filters the data about yourself. Or something like that, I'm not  
too sure actually.
You can install this on your own server. But you can also use trusted  
servers, which technically doesn't make it much different than other search  
engines.


But yeah, a URL is just a URL. There's no way to make it safer besides using  
https-everywhere yourself, and thus sharing https links automatically (except  
those websites that don't have https).


[Trisquel-users] Tor Browser Bundle: DRM deleted or not?

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko
I using Tor with IceCat. But Tor Project recommends Tor Browser Bundle. I not  
know about DRM in this browser. I can use this browser or better way is  
continue using IceCat?
P. S. It is "media.eme.*" config settings in IceCat and Abrowser. It is DRM?  
I forgot, but I think, it is "media.gmp-eme.*" in Tor Browser.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
If unity is in the repository then go ahead and install it, but of course  
remember that Unity has privacy issues. See  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-unity-desktop-environment-and-create-session-entry-trisquel-70
As for the other packages you mention, they may not be included for various  
reasons. Perhaps they weren't in Ubuntu at the time. Who knows.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make our forums safer

2016-05-17 Thread mcz
Oh, so the link is supposed to not take you directly to the targeted page,  
but through starpage?


But:
2.- The proxy won't save information about you, won't install cookies, will  
disable many trackers.

Maybe, but the target URL most likely will.

As for https, either check the URL by rewriting it instead of clicking it on  
(I might be wrong, but this matters only if Javascript is enabled). Or simply  
use https-everywhere.


Same for censorship, use a VPN or Tor.

To me, the proxy matters when you access the URL. A URL that leads to a  
search engine results page is just one more useless step, if I get this  
right.


The URL is just an adress, like a home adress.
HOW you reach the adress matters, but that's up to the user, not the URL  
(which is always the same, eventually).


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread enduzzer

SMplayer? The interface can be changed.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Yes, I wanted to delete libdrm. Now I want to update it.
It isn't mistake? I can install Unity packages?
And why Tomboy, Freenet and other free software excluded from Trisquel? It is  
free software!


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie

those icons... yuck


Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Don't be so... zealous. It reminds me of the person who wanted to delete  
"libdrm" which was direct rendering manager.
If it is in the Trisquel repositories, it is free software, except on  
occasion where the "de-blobbing" of certain packages goes slightly wrong,  
e.g. certain firmware packages.
The Virtualbox packages are so that Trisquel can be optimised for use in  
Virtualbox. Just because it is not in the Trisquel repository does not mean  
that we can't support people using Virtualbox to use Trisquel, e.g. in  
Windows. It is only as bad as making free software for Windows (which is a  
good thing, as it helps people to transition to free software).




Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread enduzzer
I think the desktop decorations are 16 colours VGA. Fonts are crisp. I think  
a computer interface must look like a computer, not a printed newspaper or  
brochure. Form follows function.


I love the way the menus from the front panel can be detached and dropped on  
the workplace desktop.


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread enduzzer
I noticed some Gnome programs cannot be resized. Like Evince, but it's of  
decent size and PDFs are legible. I replaced Evince with MuPDF


I installed SMplayer. Works just fine.




Re: [Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko

I think mpg321 is free.


[Trisquel-users] I want Unity without VirtualBox. Proprietary scope.

2016-05-17 Thread stas . mihaylenko
I want to install Unity. I think it is free and this is not mistake. But I  
saw package "unity-scope-virtualbox".
VirtualBox is deleted from Free Software Directory and Trisquel Package  
Repository — it isn't fully free.

I saw packages "ACCOUNT-PLUGIN-non-free_service".
Install or not install? Free or not?


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread superbyelich
I really like the look of it.  I love the nice crisp and clear non-smoothed  
fonts!


Re: [Trisquel-users] does it make the raspberry pi 3 a free software computer?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
It's possible to make the Beaglebone Black boot with only free software, if  
you don't use the 3D acceleration. It runs Das U-Boot, and all of the drivers  
and firmware (other than for 3D acceleration and some other stuff regarding  
audio encoding if I remember correctly) is free software, because it runs on  
a TI OMAP. The designs for the TI OMAP chips are also freely available. I'd  
hasten a guess that it is one of the most free computers widely available. I  
might get one to play around with.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Manually starting X: virtual terminal switching issue

2016-05-17 Thread mnaus

How is:

sudo start lightdm

different than:

sudo lightdm


[Trisquel-users] Re : Where can I learn to do my own scripts?

2016-05-17 Thread lcerf
Something in your Web browser is preventing the Web server from rewriting the  
URL I guess (but I have never administrated a Web server: I only have access  
to a directory accessible through http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf that gets  
rewritten into http://homepages.dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf).


Re: [Trisquel-users] does it make the raspberry pi 3 a free software computer?

2016-05-17 Thread d . a . capeletti

BEAGLEBONE black is freer than raspberry?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser version on Trisquel 6

2016-05-17 Thread mtsio
Yes, trisquel 6 is supported until 2017 so I guess then I will have to  
compile the packages myself if it isn't a very laborious effort or switch to  
another libre distribution.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser version on Trisquel 6

2016-05-17 Thread mtsio
Unfortunately it isn't. I have an older laptop that I can't install trisquel  
7 because of screen resolution problems. I think I'm not the only one in this  
situation. So, I Would like a newer version of abrowser (not necessarily 44).  
I am eager to help but don't know where to start.


I mentioned version 44 since it's already availabe for trisquel 7, so I  
thought that it's easier to start with this.


Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
This is to an extent true, but computers designed for Windows Vista (some of  
them have in excess of 1-2GoB of RAM) generally can handle GNOME Shell if  
they are Intel computers.
It's true that computers designed for XP and earlier are generally better for  
something more lightweight though. This should be Xfce in my opinion. It is  
much more accomplished and has many more features than GNOME Panel. It is  
also has more active development, and the releases add tangible new features.  
LXDE is lightweight, but I do not know of any older computer that cannot  
handle Xfce (mostly because I use window managers with such computers, I have  
not tried Xfce on really old computers circa 1999).




Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread Ignacio Agulló

dguth...@posteo.net, Mar 17 Mai 2016 12:54:33 CEST:

I have tried GNOME-panel a lot, and it is quite underwhelming. The  
application menus don't show all the applications; things like the  
Tweak Tool and Synaptic don't show up, and the settings are weird.  
It doesn't offer much advantage over Xfce.


 Agreed.

 I prefer Cinnamon.


Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es


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[Trisquel-users] Re : [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread chollet . baptiste
You should mistake that gnome shell is hard to use by old machines and  
laptops


Re: [Trisquel-users] [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
I have actually decided that GNOME Shell with GNOME-classic  should be the  
default.
I have tried GNOME-panel a lot, and it is quite underwhelming. The  
application menus don't show all the applications; things like the Tweak Tool  
and Synaptic don't show up, and the settings are weird. It doesn't offer much  
advantage over Xfce.
GNOME Shell is really easy to use. It looks great on most computers and it is  
designed with new computer users in mind. I know it got a backlash from the  
people who liked GNOME 2, and to be fair it was kind of crap when it was  
first released, but it has really improved. It is so easy a child can use it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make our forums safer

2016-05-17 Thread onpon4
No, it's different. A proxy service hides your identity. HTTPS and NoScript  
do not do this. That being said, Tor is much more secure than just trusting a  
single proxy run by someone you're not even paying.


[Trisquel-users] Re : [POLL] What is your preferred desktop environment of Trisquel 8 ?

2016-05-17 Thread chollet . baptiste

Hello, I like mate with compiz and plank. It's lite, clean and custumizable.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Linux Mint is truly poisonous. It is really bad for beginners because it is  
full security holes and proprietary drivers. If you want to give people some  
"blobbed" distribution then Debian with GNOME Shell. Some blobbed  
distribution, Xubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME. Just not Mint. They will read GNU's  
website and Mint just undermines the message of freedom. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
Linux Mint is truly poisonous. It is really bad for beginners because it is  
full security holes and proprietary drivers. If you want to give people some  
"blobbed" distribution then Debian with GNOME Shell. Some blobbed  
distribution, Xubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME. Just not Mint. They will read GNU's  
website and Mint just undermines the message of freedom. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] If you could go back in time and talk to your former "owned" self

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie
I am quite certain it runs Android. Can you install custom apps? This  
launcher is quite good:  
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=relaunch=com.harasoft.relaunch
I may look for one. The one I have has abominable battery life.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] CDE -- Common Desktop Environment

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie

Mplayer in the terminal, or just try VLC?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Quickest and easiest way to rip a DVD straight to .iso

2016-05-17 Thread dguthrie

You could always try xfburn too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let's make our forums safer

2016-05-17 Thread callmeclean
Isn't this a case of software as a service? I think you can get free browser  
plugins that do all the things that proxy does, and they are under your  
control rather than on some server.


Some examples being HTTPS everywhere and noscript. Any others?