Re: [Trisquel-users] suggestions to uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2016-08-20 Thread dahunt
Maybe an accessible login greeter, such as the one used in Trisquel?  How  
about an accessible net installer, such as in Debian?  I'd suggest sticking  
to Mate 1.12, based on problem reports that latelyh come up on Sonar GNU  
support forum.  if you are sticking with Mate, how about including audacious  
as the music player, and vlc as the audio/video player?  I'd suggest removing  
or restricting the Ubuntu Mate software boutique to free repositories.   
Finally, has the trouble with accessibility of graphical applications, run as  
superuser, been addressed in distros running Mate?




[Trisquel-users] suggestions to uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2016-08-20 Thread blade . vp2020

hi
we will start to develop uruk gnu/linux 2.0
What do you want to contain in it
How do you want it to be
All suggestions Ar welcome
and we will try to implement all suggestions
have fun and be free
ali miracle


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread infinityfallen

Thank you Luke!

I'll admit I didn't initially plan to re-pitch again, but your fresh  
perspective provided me with another set of arguments to employ. I've now  
managed to convince them to back for a computer card. I am truly grateful  
that you invested your precious time in providing advice to me, which was  
invaluable.


Also, this is an absolutely incredible project. I know I've said that before,  
but it's still only just dawning on me how much thought you have put into  
every detail of this. Just having USB ports on the inside makes this one of  
the best laptops ever to be invented.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm

Yes it makes more sense now, sorry. my bad.

I will withhold my stupid idea then and say your right.

I wish you good luck.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread dguthrie
They're fine for heavy usage every day. People use Libreboot systems for  
servers and other uses.
I think at this point we are focusing on numbers rather than real-world  
performance.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread vitacell
No, CPUs with more IPC are "i" series, and have microcode (backd00r, powerful  
rootkit) built-in, no one can remove it, only Intel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread commodore256
Well, that sucks because I feel the IPC from Core2 and pre-Zen Chips are like  
the new Pentium 4, they're trash.



Though, I think the dual opterons can still be usable depending on how  
multithreaded your workload is and can afford the electricity, but there's  
stuff to look forward to like free IP Cores where you can have FPGA  
accelerated GEGL or MLT or free CPU designs like the free implementation of  
SuperH.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread luke . leighton
> I only suggested moving towards the other options merely because I didn't  
see other options at the moment.


 the reason *why* there are no other options is BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T FUNDED  
THINKPENGUIN ENOUGH! :)  ThinkPenguin's work *IS* the reason why the AR9271's  
firmware is even libre in the first place!


 firmware for wifi drivers doesn't become libre all by itself.  the creators  
of these chipsets have absolutely no grasp of how important it is.  they just  
want to get product out the door, sell it, make money, rinse and repeat.   
they spend the absolute minimum amount of money on firmware development to  
get it out the door.  they have *no idea* that their cost-cutting exercises  
are the cause of problems such that people have to abandon products using  
their failed and limited chipsets, not realising that if they released the  
firmware it would hugely extend the lifetime of the products.


 qualcomm totally replaced all the developers and the management for the  
ath10k designs.  that new management team GENUINELY believed that the success  
of the ath9k was down exclusively to qualcomm's own efforts, not realising  
that the success is down to huge libre interoperability because of available  
firmware source code.


 so what did they do?

 develop something that is totally locked down, entirely proprietary, and  
called it a "success".  they have *no* idea that libre is important - for  
their own financial success! - and we no longer have any contacts so cannot  
reach them to explain how it really works.


 this is an extremely complex situation which takes a *huge* amount of time  
and effort - literally YEARS - to hand-hold these people through the  
process... and it needs to be done again, and again, and again, and again.




> Although a plan is in the works to get new libre wifi firmware yes?

 yes... but it takes long-term ongoing funding, where the way to  
*provide* that funding is to consistently and regularly buy products from  
Think Penguin, *not* from their competitors whom we *know* are *not* using  
the funds to pursue libre wifi firmware, whereas we know that Think Penguin  
definitely is.


 ...start to make sense now?



Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread dguthrie

That is all true.
But you are best randomising it in software, as opposed to hardware. The  
default could still identify you on a network, if you are only one or two of  
people with such a MAC address (and if there are two of you, there is a fair  
chance that the network would crash, not expecting two different MAC  
addresses on the same network).

So you are best to randomise it in the same way that TAILS does.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread lcerf
Trisquel 8, thank to NetworkManager 1.2, will bring a much better solution:  
https://blogs.gnome.org/lkundrak/2016/01/18/networkmanger-and-tracking-protection-in-wi-fi-networks/


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm

hmmm...

That wasn't on my radar. That is a good point although it is also a point  
that I am not sure how to answer...


I only suggested moving towards the other options merely because I didn't see  
other options at the moment.


It is good you mention this. Although a plan is in the works to get new libre  
wifi firmware yes?






Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread luke . leighton
that's for the laptop and for general-purpose computing, CalmStorm - it's a  
different focus, albeit an important one: that $100k is *gone* basically:  
it'll be used completely up for development, my living costs, to factories  
and for components.  15% goes to credit card fees and to crowd supply, so  
that brings it down to $85k.  components, shipping and PCBs etc. will be  
$52k.  that leaves $35k left for expenses, plane tickets, food, accommodation  
and another set of PCB prototypes.


what chris is talking about is that if you want there to *be* 802.11ac libre  
WIFI firmware available, if you go out there and buy from companies *other*  
than Think Penguin (because they're cheaper for example), you'll be  
financially undermining your own ability to get libre firmware in the  
future... because no other company, even those that have RYF Certification,  
has a proven and consistent track record of actually spending the money and  
time to get you the libre firmware as opposed to simply pocketing the  
profits.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread dguthrie

Read the FAQ. This is covered in great detail.
https://libreboot.org/faq/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved

2016-08-20 Thread dguthrie
It's hypothetical. If your website just distributes Debian main, then what  
does it offer over Debian standard installation images, since you are still  
distributing Debian, which still links to documentation, and recommends  
nonfree firmware in log files, etc etc?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread jason
"Since it is a unique identifier, it can be used to track you while on the  
internet"


This seems a little hyperbolical. A website you are accessing on the internet  
(like, say, fsf.org) has no access to your MAC address. The place you're  
connecting to from would be able to know it so a better way to say it might  
be that "Since it is a unique identifier, network access points can track you  
from one the other." This is the case as long as you're connected to the  
access point, regardless of whether or not you are actually making use of the  
internet. But anyway, you seem to be missing my point. I was responding to  
vita_cell's "I always flashed ROMs with default MAC address." This is a bad  
practice. Plain and simple. Even that website doesn't advocate for everyone  
to adopt the same MAC address. Because if everyone used the same MAC address  
no one could do anything. So don't use the default MAC address in libreboot,  
okay? Make up something random if you want in the name of privacy or security  
or whatever -- but that is beyond the scope of the point I was making.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread dguthrie

Why don't you ask them on IRC?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Little problems with HDD and video

2016-08-20 Thread marek

Thank you for your suggestions.
I already have the latest kernel and SMPlayer hangs for a while exactly the  
same way VLC does - when I move my mouse while playing full screen video - it  
has something to do with showing the control bar at the bottom; it's "funny"  
that two different media players have the same problems on my computer...
I think I'll just wait for the new Trisquel/kernel/VLC versions, I can live  
with that ;-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread lilos1

On asus kfsn4-dre there is long delay before it boot.
In coreboot there is no such bug still don`t understend why this is not fixed  
yet in libreboot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-20 Thread dahunt
@heather  Am getting some of that placebo effect from my monthly donation to  
the FSF; time to resume my monthly Trisquel donation.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-20 Thread noordinaryspider

You got a cup of coffee from me this week, Ruben.

I'm low income too, CalmStorm, but I don't even miss that $5 that is charged  
on my credit card every month or the $1 to the developer of my old distro of  
10-15 years ago.


If enough of us toss our quarters in the hat, it adds up over time. If  
nothing else, it has a nice placebo effect on the giver and some minor health  
benefits from reducing the giver's own caffeine consumption anyway.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm
I did donate already but you know something, I will donate somewhere between  
5-20$ when it is done.


:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm

I would if I had more money but gotta pay them bills heh.

also, I donated 45$ already to that eoma project. So yeah...

I am hopeful that succeeds. 49k to go! anyone who sees this message please do  
support it.


:)


[Trisquel-users] I have a question, which firewall has the most potential to be secure for trisquel,

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm

Firewallid?

Gufw?

or something I am not aware of...

I was wondering if you could tell me the top three firewalls for trisquel 7.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Well, I just installed Powershell

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm
That isn't even the only point either, unless you need it desperately, my  
opinion is to trust with barely a grain of salt or not use it at all entirely  
given that using microsoft software is like using an ordinary window to  
prevent a crminal from breaking into your house when there are no lights on.


;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread calmstorm

ah that isn't good. But guess what, 100K I saw last night.

You are on your way I am hoping. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-20 Thread jason
Thank you for another great update, Rubén! As promised I have donated $50 to  
the Trisquel project for this update. Who else will join me?


Even if you can't do $50 please consider setting some amount that you can  
afford and join in. Long live Trisquel!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Well, I just installed Powershell

2016-08-20 Thread jason

There are many licenses, not all of which are free.

https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/license_thirdparty_proprietary.txt


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread kevin . weber
How do you patch the rom ? Or should I build the rom from source with the MAC  
address changed ?




Re: [Trisquel-users] Well, I just installed Powershell

2016-08-20 Thread Ignacio Agulló

commodore...@gmail.com, Sáb 20 Ago 2016 09:33:49 CEST:


MS MIT Licensed it, have fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WZwv7TxqZ0


 Next thing we know, Microsoft substitutes the Windows NT kernel  
with Linux.  :-D



Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-20 Thread firefoxbugreporter

Here is a rough example of how I did it. Hope you can use it in this form.

First get root shell using "sudo su". After that you can run the following  
commands.



FLIDAS=/mnt/flidas

debootstrap flidas $FLIDAS http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/
curl http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/trisquel/key.asc >  
$FLIDAS/root/key.asc

cat < $FLIDAS/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel flidas main
deb http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel flidas-updates main
deb http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel flidas-security main

deb http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/trisquel/flidas flidas main
#deb http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/trisquel/flidas flidas-updates main
deb http://jenkins.trisquel.info/repos/trisquel/flidas flidas-security main
EOF


After doing this you will have flidas debootstrapped, with jenkins repo key  
in root dir and sources list set up.


Then you can mount some stuff for flidas to have and chroot to the system.


mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/flidas/dev/
mount -t devpts none /mnt/flidas/dev/pts/
mount -t proc none /mnt/flidas/proc/
chroot /mnt/flidas/


You can now add the key.

cat /root/key.asc | apt-key add -


After updating using "apt-get update" you can install packages.
When you want to exit, just execute "exit". After that you can un-mount the  
stuff you mounted previously.



umount /mnt/flidas/dev/pts
umount /mnt/flidas/dev
umount /mnt/flidas/proc


To use the system later you don't need to repeat everything, just the mount  
and chroot part.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved

2016-08-20 Thread svhaab
If you are right about fsf then I disagree more about fsf's policy. I should  
have asked fsf about my librian example.

> installing Debian
No, you install librian.
> will naturally be directed to the Debian documentation in each of the  
packages
Librian's repository is main from debian 8. Unless I get informed otherwise  
all information in main is about free software.
As I wrote before, librian.com has one link which is a download of a librian  
iso. No other links.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-20 Thread chris
There is some truth that we may get source code for an 802.11ac chipset. I  
wouldn't hold my breath that it'll happen any time soon. It took years to get  
the code for the last 802.11n chip and it's going to be more challenging this  
time around.


As far as 802.11n dual-band is concerned the main chipsets that we're  
building off are discontinued. It's unlikely we'll be able to get more  
adapters manufactured. We tried stocking up, but insufficient resources  
limits how much stock and how long these things can continue to be purchased  
beyond the general-market availability time period. This is why it's so  
important that people support the work we're doing. When we get support and  
people don't just go elsewhere it helps to provide us with the resources we  
need to pull these sorts of projects off (even if it takes a while). Right  
now we're stuck. Not enough money and not enough time. What is happening is  
happening very slowly.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Little problems with HDD and video

2016-08-20 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Regarding the first question you could put your Abrowser profile and cache  
into ram. That will make things faster and no more disk crunching, probably  
helps with battery life as well.


There are various scripts floating around to do that (the issue is preserving  
changes as ram is volatile). Or you could do it manually. There is an  
existing tmpfs in /dev/shm.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot 20160818

2016-08-20 Thread commodore256
Will Libreboot ever support a board that supports a CPU with more IPC than a  
Core 2 Duo/Pre-Zen AMD?