Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

[sigdpsy]

mision@vision:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 gnome : Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.14+3ubuntu1) but it is not going to be  
installed

 Depends: alacarte (>= 3.11) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

What I can I do?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

[sigdpsy]

mision@vision:~$ sudo apt-get install cairo-dock
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 cairo-dock : Depends: cairo-dock-plug-ins (>= 3.4.1) but it is not going to  
be installed
  Depends: cairo-dock-plug-ins-dbus-interface-python (>= 3.4.1)  
but it is not going to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

It alos not installed.
I am now using Uruk 2.0 (Beta 1) 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Who of this community honestly runs Trisquel GNU/Linux?

[onpon4]

Have you seen the crowdfunding campaign?

https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

Re: [Trisquel-users] an observation about YouTube

[onpon4]

It could just be that IE doesn't support fullscreen. It wouldn't surprise me  
considering how old it is. I do remember in the early experimental days that  
YouTube's HTML5 player didn't support fullscreen at all and I got the  
impression that was a technical limitation.

Re: [Trisquel-users] an observation about YouTube

[J.B. Nicholson]

a...@ncf.ca wrote:
Is there a reason that Google/YouTube won't do full-screen video in 
Internet Explorer?


We're not Google or YouTube's tech support.


I wondered whether Youtube/Google was diminishing compatibility with
their competitors' web browsers to give their own web browser an
advantage in the market.
Perhaps so; you should try asking them since it's their webpage. As far as 
any free software distro mailing list ought to be concerned, this might be 
a fight between software proprietors and you'd be better off finding the 
videos you seek elsewhere, or using a free program such as youtube-dl to 
download the videos (which I understand doesn't execute the non-free JS 
code YouTube serves), or skipping them in favor of videos that favor free 
software. archive.org hosts many such videos and doesn't require non-free 
software to work with at all.


I certainly recommend avoiding non-free software such as Windows, Google 
Chrome, and the non-free code in YouTube altogether.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am interested in using Trisquel 7 or 8, but my Korora Laptop is not able to boot my USB 2.0 Drive

[calmstorm]

This is most strange, have you tried burning a cd with a trisquel iso? its  
not hard.


Unless you have no other gnu/linux laptop.

Re: [Trisquel-users] X200 libreboot thinkpad unable to resume from suspension

[calmstorm]

Actually, suspend and hibernation do work for me,

one catch though, suspend worked in trisquel 7, but hibernation... very  
rarely if ever worked.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[calmstorm]

I don't look up to leah or you, but I am disheartened to see you flaming  
people because they have legitimate concerns about you. you are good to your  
customers. I will give you that, but your competition you are absolutely  
horrid to.


Leah has done wrong just like you, the difference, you still are doing wrong.  
Even if it wasn't as bad as Leah's screwups
I am not saying people shouldn't buy your products, but I am saying, you need  
to take a good look at yourself and just relax. You don't need to be so angry  
all the time. I used to be like that, I can tell you it isn't fun at all.
I still have a few issues with it, but I am trying to work on it. You should  
too.


I don't know you that well, but whether you are atheist or not,

You are losing your reason and your peace... for nothing.

You can still succeed even if others are too. just remember that.

In the meantime, I hope you also understand that criticisms and opposition  
comes with any job. You can succeed better without being this way. trust me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available

[calmstorm]

Agreed... but someone needs to tell me why this has been revived...

I approve of necroing, but not for threads that have flaming in it/lots of  
anger.


Some threads need to die.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available

[i_write_words]

Just a zombie thread that needs to die, calher, no worries. 

Re: [Trisquel-users] an observation about YouTube

[i_write_words]

FYI, you don't have to worry about this if you use Belenos or Flidas, but  
YouTube is completely silent on Firefox without pulseaudio now.


Of course you can always download the video and watch it on a media player,  
but that is legally confusing language that actually means attacking a ship,  
killing its crew, and stealing its cargo in some countries.


Google is so not your friend.

Re: [Trisquel-users] an observation about YouTube

[yuval . levental]

Pretty much, they want to have as much dominance over our browsing as  
possible.


You would be interested in this critique of Google & Co. by Richard Stallman:  
https://stallman.org/google.html


"Youtube requires nonfree software (Javascript code) for normal use of the  
site; after changes Google made in August 2017, nothing is visible in a  
typical Youtube page without running its nonfree Javascript code."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available

[csh]

IDK what's happening here, but Minifree has given me excellent service.   
Amazing warranty.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I finally managed to install Trisquel 8 :D I'm made it! Here's how I did it.

[yuval . levental]

Just became an official member :D.  Can only donate 5€/month, but I am  
happy to support this project.

[Trisquel-users] an observation about YouTube

[adel]

Today I opened YouTube in Internet Explorer on a Microsoft Windows Vista  
computer.  The "full screen" button in YouTube's JavaScript (?) video player  
was greyed out, and I couldn't watch videos in full screen mode.  At the top  
of the website, a narrow banner recommended Google Chrome.


Is there a reason that Google/YouTube won't do full-screen video in Internet  
Explorer?  I wondered whether Youtube/Google was diminishing compatibility  
with their competitors' web browsers to give their own web browser an  
advantage in the market.  Maybe the full-screen button was greyed out because  
I did something wrong, maybe something to do with Vista not being supported  
any more (is it?), or maybe there's some other reason for YouTube's lesser  
functionality on Internet Explorer.


Any thoughts?  Has this happend with others' Internet Explorer, Safari,  
Firefox, etc?  Are there laws (which countries/etc?) that restrict or  
prohibit preferential treatment like this might be?


Although not exactly the same, it reminds me of Microsoft's HTML situation:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/17/opera_ceo_microsoft/

[Trisquel-users] Coliberator 2017

[martin]

Hello, Everyone! :)

I would like to invite you to this years Coliberator - an annual free  
software conference that takes place in Bucharest, Romania.  It's an  
international event, in English.  If you live in Europe the flights are  
usually pretty cheap, so I'll be happy to see you there. :)


This year the event will be on October 7 & 8.  Sorry for the short notice -  
things were hectic.


Richard Stallman will be giving a keynote talk at the conference.  We'll also  
have talks and workshops about Replicant, Libreboot, Diaspora, Blender, RYF  
certification, building small home free software servers, and others.   
Checkout out the website for more details: https://coliberator.org/


Please register on the website if you are planning to come.

See you there! :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[i_write_words]

ylevental, I respect that and know enough about who you are to be positive  
that you are not a troll.


I carry a dumb phone (actually I leave it in a drawer a lot more than I want  
my family to know and this is a publicly viewable website) but one of the  
people I miss who used to post here spends most of his online time on  
Replicant now and gives me the impression that it is a great community and  
that this will be a rewarding project for you.


I was extremely disappointed when I won the eBay auction for my T400 because  
I left that drama thread wanting to support both businesses.


I'm disappointed by some of the things Tiberiu said here but done following  
this thread. Maybe I'll just take that X200 tablet to eWaste even though my  
experience with my eBay machine is exactly what Tiberiu described, exactly  
what I expected when I bid on it, and exactly what is appropriate for my own  
economic circumstances and technical ability.


Jamathis25, you rock if you're lurking here and reading this and don't think  
I didn't notice you lowered the reserve the second time I bid and let me have  
it for half what I was able to pay. The cosmetic issue was just the battery,  
which isn't quite cutting it for me and will be replaced anyway, but it was  
still quite ethical for you to mention that in the listing.


It was fun to turn a $15 parts-or-repair into almost my dream laptop/tablet  
convertable of 2016-2017 anyway, and also educational to see all the  
different points of view on this issue and examine my own.


Happy flashing, ylevental. You can do this. Leah had to hold my hand and  
reassure me and babysit me on IRC when I did my X60, but that wasn't because  
software flashing is hard, just because I needed moral support  
andwell...I guess I needed it from another woman so let's just go with  
"chick thang" and call it irrelevant unless dudes do that too. ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[ivan . baldinotti]

Yep I know. But these are old devices. Second hand smart phone, battery  
probably gone and so on. But if you have already one than you could give it a  
try.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[leestrobel]

I respect your opinion, FindEssential, and I agree that in the end it comes  
down to who you choose to believe/trust. Although, I find it interesting that  
you choose to trust these companies who are producing non-free  
software/firmware over individuals who are working hard (and often not  
getting paid) to provide completely free computing options. With non-free  
firmware, you have no idea what else they are putting in the code you are  
using. With Libreboot, you or anybody else can audit the code at any time,  
and it's endorsed by the Free Software Foundation.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[ivan . baldinotti]

I think that this is not an easy task. You have to find a compatible device  
first. 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[yuval . levental]

There is an official list of them:  
https://www.replicant.us/supported-devices.php

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[leoo]

Concern trolling and incitement to bash are certainly common online in the  
form of seemingly innocuous requests for opinions, but I think it quite  
possible, if not likely, that amid the various feuds, accusations and  
counter-accusations about bad dealing and bad faith, from various parties,  
that a newcomer would feel a bit lost and confused if not intimidated, and  
feel hesitant about whom to trust and what to believe.


Assume good faith is a good starting point, like the Prisoners' Dilemma. 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: GNU/Linux-based postmarketOS project aims to give smartphones a 10-year lifecycle

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Yes, I got a response. See:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
2017-09-18T11:02-0300  Does any one know if postmarketOS is
 considering joining efforst with Replicant?
2017-09-18T11:06-0300  I'm not sure how we would join efforts?
2017-09-18T11:06-0300  we try to avoid the Android build system
 entirely
2017-09-18T11:06-0300  PureTryOut: reverse engineering and kernel
 work
2017-09-18T11:06-0300  ... and I just read ollieparanoid[m]'s post on
 the unsustainable "development model" of Android... which cites an experiment
 made by a Brazilian friend of mine ;)
2017-09-18T11:08-0300  ... and cascardo is here ;)
2017-09-18T11:08-0300  adfeno: you mean the GNU on smartphones
 blog?
2017-09-18T11:09-0300  ata2001[m]: yep
2017-09-18T11:10-0300  adfeno: yeah, we have already talked to
 cascardo
2017-09-18T11:15-0300  thanks for the info guys
2017-09-18T11:19-0300  Also, I wonder, is there a plan for the project
 to be included in  (for
 distros which depend on, or provide, GNU packages) or
  (for those which
 don't)?
[...]
2017-09-18T11:26-0300  adfeno: we are not aiming for FSF endorsed
 status right now, most of the devices require proprietary firmware for basic
 functionality
2017-09-18T11:27-0300  but we might provide a way to have a fully
 libre pmos install in the future
2017-09-18T11:29-0300  we already put the proprietary firmware in
 separate packages
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Basically, it would be good to help the project, however, can't
recommend it to the general public (because it isn't a free/libre system
distribution).

However, I'm worried that they have the "mass adoption" goal. To test
this one has to send improvements so as to remove non-free stuff
(whether adding free/libre replacements or not) and seeing the outcome.

7...@posteo.de writes:

> Hello ADFENO,
>
> did they get back to you? Libre computing for phones is something I'm
> interested in :)
>
> - PenGNUin
>

-- 
- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, use o GNU Ring ou o Tox.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Who of this community honestly runs Trisquel GNU/Linux?

[anthk]

>ARM-based EOMA68 computer before too long,

I'd like more info on that.
About Parabola, check Hyperbola. Is Parabola without SystemD.

About the distros, in the end is the same. GuixSD, Trisquel, Parabola,  
Hyperbola are just packets. I am sure if GuixSD has a GUI installed made with  
Guile-curses or Guile-Web from a live web based config tool, it could be  
amazing and as easy as Trisquel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[yuval . levental]

Sorry, it seems that you blew it.  I was lurking on this forum, I just  
happened to discover the conversations before registering.  I had heard of  
Technoethical before, but didn't know about this side of some people that  
were associated with them.


I guess I will have to install Replicant by myself.  And as for you, PLEASE  
take a look in the mirror.

Re: [Trisquel-users] laser printer that has an automatic scanner

[adel]

Thanks MB

Those scanners cost like $1500 US +

I wonder whether an enterprising independent could make a freedom oriented  
auto scanner with a camera and an eoma68 ... would ~$1500 leave enough room  
for profit?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Who of this community honestly runs Trisquel GNU/Linux?

[tplaten]

I was using Parabola only for nearly one year, but now I have a  
Trisquel/Parabola dual boot on my system. After Libreboot left GNU I did not  
wan't to use Trisquel anymore for some years.


I normally use Parabola, for for some tasks such as building Libreboot or  
LibreCMC I use Trisquel. One Python script that I wrote only works on  
Trisquel, because MeCab is not included in Parabola yet.


After the last GNU/Hackers meeting I decided that I want to become a GUIX  
hacker, therefore I will probably also install GuixSD, but I will continue to  
use Trisquel as it is one of most usable GNU/Linux distros.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Share your most useful cli programs...

[jodiendo]

I use a lot burncdcc when I'm burning CD ISO files to GNU Linux/. IS AN OLD  
program but still works fine with me.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[lcerf]

I doubt that the intentions of the OP are honest. (...) This "behavior"  
betrays the true intentions of the OP, which seem to be to invite people to  
not buy from Technoethical


Please do not impute motives to ylevental.  He may very well be your  
potential customer.  Well, after this post, the past tense may be more  
appropriate...


And please, stop attacking Leah, who made a good part of your business  
possible in the first place.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[lcerf]

A same person/company can be both cheered for the good she/it does and blamed  
for the bad she/it does. 

[Trisquel-users] Re : I finally managed to install Trisquel 8 :D I'm made it! Here's how I did it.

[lcerf]

If you actually want to be a member: https://trisquel.info/member

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[info]

Hello,

I'll always stand up for myself and my projects, instead of playing the  
victim or answering with vague corporate statements. The people who actually  
interact with Technoethical know that we take criticism seriously and we try  
to fix in a timely manner any raised issue that is in our power to fix or at  
least help fix it if it's not up to us alone.


I doubt that the intentions of the OP are honest. No one is forced to buy  
from Technoethical, so it's a matter of choosing not to buy, not "refusing"  
to buy. The OP hasn't contacted us to ask for our opinion about the  
discussion threads they have referenced. Instead they have chosen to ask  
people on a forum of which they are member for only 2 days, what decision  
should they take. They also say the were "thinking" of buying "smartphones"  
from Technoethical, which would be quite unusual. In our history, there have  
been only 2 customers to buy more than one phone from us with their first  
order. This "behavior" betrays the true intentions of the OP, which seem to  
be to invite people to not buy from Technoethical for unstated allegations  
that have made the OP assert that we are "unethical" despite our name saying  
we abide by the ethics in technology (set up by the free software philosophy  
of the GNU Project).


We encourage people to flash both Replicant and Libreboot themselves. We  
often find ourselves offering technical support to people who contact us  
merely for that, with little or no intention to buy (other) devices from us.  
People have to keep in mind that an important part of our job is testing,  
fixing and refurbishing hardware that is free software-compatible. Flashing  
is harder on some models and at times flashing might work only after several  
attempts that can take hours, but flashing is and has always been the easiest  
part of our job. People buying the same devices with proprietary software on  
them are not aware that in most cases in both second-hand and refurbished  
phones and laptops there are hidden hardware problems that you become aware  
only after some time of usage. Most sellers on websites like eBay don't  
accept returns or even if they accept, you can't return the devices with  
Replicant or Libreboot on them, so you get yourself hardware that runs free  
software, but has issues that need to be fixed by you or by a repair shop.  
There are people that don't mind spending this amount of effort and time to  
have free software-compatible hardware. And we encourage this, because this  
is the hacker culture and this is what we do too. Other people are looking  
for a lean learning process in the free software world with FSF-certified  
hardware prepared by companies that are doing all this as their main job.


About Leah, I'm surprised to see honest people looking up to her. She wrongs  
any number of people and projects at any time knowing that the worst it can  
happen to her is be expected to apologize. I gave her a lot of chances, from  
the moment she urged me to not start selling laptops with Libreboot, to the  
time when she would censor me on the Libreboot bug tracker, until just  
recently when she asked me to stop selling D16.


Tiberiu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Should I refuse to buy from Technoethical?

[shiretoko]

What I'm going to say now is not limited to this thread / technoethical, it  
is more of a general remark on several viewpoints that I've heard in this  
thread a lot.

The ideas / viewpoints i'm talking about include the following:
"As long as they support free software, I don't care about the rest"
"It's only human to act like that if we get criticized"
"Other companies are worse, if you refuse to buy from them, you'll run out of  
companies soon".


I personally think that all of the above are terrible ways to think and they  
give rise to even more terrible conclusions.
Selling or supporting proprietary software is one of the many wrongs a  
company can do. There are plenty of others that are just as bad, if not  
worse.
However, in contrast to other unethical actions, proprietary software is not  
recognized as a problem by the public.
We, the free software community, realized this issue and we stand together in  
order to change it. It's natural that we give a higher priority to everything  
computer-related.
It's also true that RYF hardware is something very scarce, and therefore it  
is in high demand within our community.


However, the goal is not a society that supports free software, the goal is a  
society worth living and worth participating in, a just and friendly one in  
which we give everybody the rights that he/she deserves. Free software is one  
big, essential building block for this society, but it's not the only one,  
and we should not forget about our higher goal.
Therefore, I think it is important to judge the actions of a company as a  
whole, not limiting ourselves to single aspects.


Google, for instance, produced quite an amount of free software, and still it  
is not justifying the wrong they are doing - similar goes for apple (swift is  
afaik free software and cups was also made by them if i recall correctly). If  
they were to sell one particular piece of RYF hardware in some kind of  
fictional "open hardware" program, if they treat every customer nicely and  
give excellent support, should we just forget about the rest and cheer for  
them?

I do not think so.

Now, some of my remarks are strongly pointed in order to show the underlying  
logic and all the contradictions that come with the ideas I was criticizing.

By no means I am comparing google or apple to technoethical.
I am also glad that they sell RYF hardware (they are one of few), but i'm  
upset about other parts of their behavior.