Re: [Trisquel-users] Display issue (probably font rendering) on Abroswer

2018-09-27 Thread chrisotten2
OK, Pale Moon is not Libre . . . but what about ABrowsers rendering problems  
with the Intel cards?


[Trisquel-users] Re : Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

2018-09-27 Thread lcerf
I certainly do not recommend installing packages directly taken from Ubuntu's  
repository.  But I think ivanruvalcaba is installing packages in Trisquel's  
repository.  In the case of X stack's update, the packages in Trisquel 8's  
repository should be the same as those in Ubuntu 16.04's (the version numbers  
not including "trisquel").


Re: [Trisquel-users] Hosting a Free and Open Source Server For Everything You Want

2018-09-27 Thread greatgnu

>That sounds really interesting.

Sure it sounds interesting, it's free beer.

>It'd be very nice if you could document your work and add it to the wiki.

Hmm..I don't know, I can try, k.. I will document every beer from now on!  
It's hard work but someone has to wiki.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

2018-09-27 Thread mario . i . ruvalcaba
I do not understand your point of view very well, IMHO everything is in ok.  
Only the updates corresponding to X server (graphical stack) were applied  
with the following:


sudo apt-get install --install-recommends xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04

Here is my log (sorry, my system's locale is Spanish language):

Log started: 2018-09-26  14:22:02
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246272 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)

Desinstalando trisquel (8.0-33) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1.2)  
...

Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-all (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu (1.1.2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-vmware (1:13.1.0-2ubuntu3) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-vesa (1:2.3.4-1build2) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-all (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-wacom (1:0.32.0-0ubuntu3) ...
dpkg: xserver-xorg-core: problemas de dependencias, pero se desinstalará de  
todas formas

 tal y como se solicitó:
 xserver-xorg-video-ati depende de xorg-video-abi-20; sin embargo:
  El paquete `xorg-video-abi-20' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' provee `xorg-video-abi-20' pero va a ser  
desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg-video-ati depende de xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.99.902); sin  
embargo:

  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' va a ser desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depende de xorg-input-abi-22; sin embargo:
  El paquete `xorg-input-abi-22' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' provee `xorg-input-abi-22' pero va a ser  
desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics depende de xserver-xorg-core (>=  
2:1.17.99.902); sin embargo:

  El paquete `xserver-xorg-core' va a ser desinstalado.
 xserver-xorg depende de xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.17.2-2).
 xserver-xorg-video-radeon depende de xorg-video-abi-20; sin embargo:
  El paquete `xorg-video-abi-20' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xser
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-core (2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8) ...
dpkg: xserver-xorg: problemas de dependencias, pero se desinstalará de todas  
formas

 tal y como se solicitó:
 xorg depende de xserver-xorg (>= 1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1).

Desinstalando xserver-xorg (1:7.7+13ubuntu3.1) ...
Procesando disparadores para libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
Procesando disparadores para man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 previamente no seleccionado.
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246124 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04_1%3a7.7+16ubuntu3~16.04.1_i386.deb ...

Desempaquetando xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 (1:7.7+16ubuntu3~16.04.1) ...
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246131 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)

Desinstalando xserver-xorg-legacy (2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-ati (1:7.7.0-1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-radeon (1:7.7.0-1) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-qxl (0.1.4-3ubuntu3) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (1:1.0.12-1build2) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (1:0.4.4-1build5) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-evdev (1:2.10.1-1ubuntu2) ...
Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse (1:13.1.0-1ubuntu2) ...
dpkg: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: problemas de dependencias, pero se  
desinstalará de todas formas

 tal y como se solicitó:
 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 depende de xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04 |  
xorg-driver-input; sin embargo:

  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-all-hwe-16.04' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xorg-driver-input' no está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-synaptics' provee `xorg-driver-input' pero  
va a ser desinstalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse' que provee xorg-driver-input no  
está instalado.
  El paquete `xserver-xorg-input-evdev' que provee xorg-driver-input no está  
instalado.


Desinstalando xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (1.8.2-1ubuntu3) ...
Procesando disparadores para man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete libxfont2:i386 previamente no seleccionado.
(Leyendo la base de datos ... 246042 ficheros o directorios instalados  
actualmente.)
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../libxfont2_1%3a2.0.1-3~ubuntu16.04.3_i386.deb ...

Desempaquetando libxfont2:i386 (1:2.0.1-3~ubuntu16.04.3) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04 previamente no  
seleccionado.
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04_2%3a1.19.6-1ubuntu4~16.04.1_i386.deb ...

Desempaquetando xserver-xorg-core-hwe-16.04 (2:1.19.6-1ubuntu4~16.04.1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04 previamente no  
seleccionado.
Preparando para desempaquetar  
.../xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04_1%3a2.10.5-1ubuntu1~16.04.1_i386.deb  
...
Desempaquetando xserver-xorg-input-evdev-hwe-16.04  
(1:2.10.5-1ubuntu1~16.04.1) ...
Seleccionando el paquete xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-16.04 previamente  
no seleccionado.
Preparando para desempaquetar  

Re: [Trisquel-users] Record a voice chat from Discord

2018-09-27 Thread Mason Hock
> Does anyone know how to setup Audacity or Ardour4
> to accomplish this? I also have installed qjackctl to try to figure it out.
> 
> Thanks!
> 

I can't help you with Discord, but I can help with your more general
question about recording the audio output of a program. The best
approach I am aware of is to use JACK. Since you've installed qjackctl I
assume you know what that is. However, Cadence is a much easier tool
than qjackctl to configure JACK.

To configure JACK, follow the instructions I gave here:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/where-get-free-software-sound-packs-and-vsts-lmms#comment-133903

Once you've done that, use Catia to route the program you want to record
into Ardour. Some programs are not JACK compatible. Firefox and
derivatives like Abrowser require Pulseaudio. For such programs, the
audio output will come from Pulseaudio Source, and this is what should
be routed to Ardour.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Record a voice chat from Discord

2018-09-27 Thread andrewandmelissao
I understand that, but for my work, I have to use it. Do you know any way to  
use Audacity or other programs to record the audio?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it possible to apply Ubuntu's LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in Trisquel 8?

2018-09-27 Thread jason
But they wanted to apply ***Ubuntu's*** LTS Enablement Stack upgrades in  
Trisquel 8. Not Trisquel's. That's the very title of this thread. Pulling  
stuff from Ubuntu does raise this issue.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Display issue (probably font rendering) on Abroswer

2018-09-27 Thread alonivtsan

Pale Moon also contains this clause:

Unofficial branding ("New Moon") as supplied in the source code may be used  
for unendorsed binaries at all times. Thusly branded binaries with the New  
Moon logo and product name are not subject to the endorsement and exception  
rules as set out in previous points of this license and may be freely  
distributed in altered or unaltered form, subject to the Mozilla Public  
License as regards source code changes and availability. This permission  
does, however, not include any rights or license to the Pale Moon name and  
logo that may still be present in the resulting unofficially branded  
binaries.


[Trisquel-users] Re : How to switch windows in KDE

2018-09-27 Thread lcerf
It would be nice if you would add a "Install KDE" page to the section "VII.  
Home and office", subsection "Graphic User Interfaces (GUIs)", subsubsection  
"Installing/Unistalling Desktops" of Trisquel's "All manuals":  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/all-manuals


And on this page too: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/home-and-office

Trisquel's official documentation is a wiki.


[Trisquel-users] Re : How to install MATE and remove KDE

2018-09-27 Thread lcerf
You can try the default environment from the live environment too.  If you  
really want to install it alongside KDE (what means two applications for most  
tasks), install both "trisquel" and "trisquel-recommended".


[Trisquel-users] Re : Display issue (probably font rendering) on Abroswer

2018-09-27 Thread lcerf
Well, I believe Pale Moon's trademark policy goes even farther than  
Mozilla"s:
5. The binaries are not supplied or built as an integral part of a  
commercial/non-commercial software package/larger works ("package"). (...)
6. The binaries are not supplied or built as an integral part of a  
commercial/non-commercial website/web service/on-line venue/etc. ("service").  
(...)

https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml

That said, Mozilla's trademark forbidding to charge for the redistribution of  
exact copies (also in Pale Moon's trademark policy) is enough to be  
inadmissible: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to switch windows in KDE

2018-09-27 Thread stephen . biggs

I fixed it!

I had to do

sudo apt install kwin-x11

and restart the laptop. Then I get close / maximise buttons, can switch with  
Alt+Tab, etc.


This was based on this Q  
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/261122/kde-5-does-not-have-window-decorations


This seems like a bug in Triskel - surely this package should be installed by  
default, no?


FYI - the other package suggested in the linked answer  
(kwin-decoration-oxygen) makes no difference as far as I can tell (I tried it  
separately).




Re: [Trisquel-users] Hosting a Free and Open Source Server For Everything You Want

2018-09-27 Thread amuza

That sounds really interesting.

It'd be very nice if you could document your work and add it to the wiki.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install MATE and remove KDE

2018-09-27 Thread stephen . biggs

Thank you for your quick reply.

This is just a test install on a spare hard drive before I upgrade my main  
SSD from Trisquel 7 to Trisquel 8, so I will try to get KDE working, if not  
I'll try MATE and if that's good then I'll do a fresh MATE install from the  
ISO.


Thanks for the tips


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to switch windows in KDE

2018-09-27 Thread stephen . biggs

Thank you for your quick reply.

Ok, tried that, didn't work. I ran:

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
sudo apt install

But it was fully installed and up-to-date already. I also have  
triskel-recommended fully installed and up-to-date.


Any more ideas on how I can fix this?

Is this a bug in trisquel 8?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install MATE and remove KDE

2018-09-27 Thread Mason Hock
> How can I install MATE so I can try it instead?

$ sudo apt install trisquel

> If I then decide to use MATE, I won't need KDE anymore. So how would I
> uninstall KDE?

At that point you might as well reinstall Trisquel using the regular
ISO. If for some reason this is not an option, you could try running

$ sudo apt remove triskel
$ sudo apt remove plasma-*
$ sudo apt autoremove

This might not remove every trace of KDE, though.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] How to switch windows in KDE

2018-09-27 Thread Mason Hock
Try installing the package 'triskel' to make sure that the entire
desktop environment is installed.


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[Trisquel-users] How to install MATE and remove KDE

2018-09-27 Thread stephen . biggs
I just installed Trisquel 8.0 with KDE. I'm not sure if I like KDE. I would  
like to try MATE instead. How can I install MATE so I can try it instead?


If I then decide to use MATE, I won't need KDE anymore. So how would I  
uninstall KDE?


Thanks :)


[Trisquel-users] How to switch windows in KDE

2018-09-27 Thread stephen . biggs
I just installed Trisquel 8.0 with KDE. I can't switch windows or close  
windows. There are no close/enlarge buttons in the corner of the windows.  
Common keyboard shortcuts like Alt+Tab Alt+F4 don't do anything.


Has anyone else experienced this? Anyone know how to fix this problem?

Thanks





Re: [Trisquel-users] Display issue (probably font rendering) on Abroswer

2018-09-27 Thread alonivtsan
Palemoon is just as free as Firefox or Seamonkey - if you build these with  
different icons then the binary file can be free software (e.g. Iceape and  
IceCat/Abrowser are free), but if you use the compiled binaries provided they  
are not.