Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-03-01 Thread greatgnu

> Since Abrowser is configured to
execute all JavaScript by default, Ebay, Amazon, and even DuckDuckGo
execute proprietary JavaScript when used in Abrowser. By suggesting
these search engines, Abrowser guides the user toward proprietary
JavaScript. I think that if Abrowser is not going to block non-free JS
by default as Icecat does, it should not go out of it's way to direct
users to pages that have non-free JS.

Indeed. Pointing to a proprietary addon or to poprietary javascript on a  
search engine is equally bad freedom wise. No difference at all. And if we  
think we shall exclude the first we shall by the same logic exclude the  
second.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-02-19 Thread svenerik_vn
Yes, indeed. But as Chaosmonk pointed out in the other thread it is an  
ongoing reportesld issue :)


Hopefully it will be addressed by the developers.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-02-18 Thread Caleb Herbert
They could be running free JS, but the browser directs them to a page
that relies on proprietary JavaScript. It leads to proprietary software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-02-18 Thread svenerik_vn

Indeed.
Pardon me for bringing up this subject again, I totally was too lazy to  
search the forum.


Glad to be reminded that this is in fact a reported issue.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-02-18 Thread Mason Hock
> It's only a freedom issue if someone uses the JavaScript engine in
> Abrowser to run non-free JavaScript.

> No, because those organizations don't have problems with us using their
> trademarks to indicate use of their search engine.

Maybe these things aren't a problem on their own, but I think that they
may constitute a problem together. Since Abrowser is configured to
execute all JavaScript by default, Ebay, Amazon, and even DuckDuckGo
execute proprietary JavaScript when used in Abrowser. By suggesting
these search engines, Abrowser guides the user toward proprietary
JavaScript. I think that if Abrowser is not going to block non-free JS
by default as Icecat does, it should not go out of it's way to direct
users to pages that have non-free JS.

https://trisquel.info/en/issues/24453


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-02-18 Thread jason
"Isn't it a freedom issue that Abrowser has JS enabled by default without  
saying anything to the user? Also that the default search engine used in the  
address bar is duckduckgo with JS enabled?"


It's only a freedom issue if someone uses the JavaScript engine in Abrowser  
to run non-free JavaScript. They could just as well be running free  
JavaScript with it.


"Furthermore isn't it a 'branding issue' that when you go to preferences and  
"search" you can click on a drop down menu which lets you select Google,  
Amazon, Ebay and Twitter as search engines?"


No, because those organizations don't have problems with us using their  
trademarks to indicate use of their search engine. This is not the case for  
Mozilla's trademarks which is why Trisquel removes them.


[Trisquel-users] Freedom issues regarding Abrowser.

2019-02-18 Thread svenerik_vn
Isn't it a freedom issue that Abrowser has JS enabled by default without  
saying anything to the user? Also that the default search engine used in the  
address bar is duckduckgo with JS enabled?


Furthermore isn't it a "branding issue" that when you go to preferences and  
"search" you can click on a drop down menu which lets you select Google,  
Amazon, Ebay and Twitter as search engines?