Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-12 Thread davidvargas1

grave_123

 Good luck with it!
 The country that I live is basically "STUPID WIN" orientated people. Other  
operating systems are not well versatile or understood at all. I have FIVE  
network desktop PC's, as a small business internet shop. The problem and the  
great majority of people, all they want is the win games and they don't care  
at all about educational programs OR alternatives. Basically they do black  
market win@@s severely.


Once in a while some computer student will ask for python, c-plus or java  
programs but besides that, to depend on them, as an income is a no go.


 My job basically, is too educated in the other alternatives that are  
available to the public USING GNU/LINUX. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-10 Thread adel . afzal

great idea!



Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread overbackup4
Yes, a .iso Live Image can be customised with the install/removal of programs  
and changes to settings.


https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/customizing-trisquel-iso ( some steps are  
optional )


and then that custom .iso image can be burnt to CD to make a liveCD or copied  
to USB to make a liveUSB.


https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-create-liveusb

( * Data safety tip: double check the output-file if using dd to copy the iso  
, to make sure it is the correct USB media )


-/-

A simpler approach to the above is to install/customise as regular to HD,  
then backup the HD for use as a vanilla master image used to restore the box  
periodically.


Clonezilla Live is one imaging tool that can backup/restore the image of the  
HD.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonezilla#Clonezilla_Live


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread mve1
Thanks a lot for recommending minitube! Looks great. I use youtube-dl, which  
I still find very useful, but never heard of minitube before. Do you know if  
it's possible to configure it to work through a proxy or vpn?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread ssjgokux3
I thought about writing a simple HTML page with links to various libre sites  
and setting that as the homepage :D


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread ssjgokux3

In regards to using images:

Can I create an image that consists of all the programs I want to load the  
box with?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread ssjgokux3
Yes I am loading it up with Open Library, Wikipedia, Archive.org, Creative  
Commons, and others as well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread D. A. H.
Libreplanet, FSF, Diaspora, a reliable and well-stocked mediagoblin 
instance, owncloud, Think Penguin, JXSelf, all good suggested bookmarks 
for that Trisquel box in the library.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread adel . afzal

I have a few suggestions -

Set the browser home page to Trisquel's all-manuals page:   
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/all-manuals


Put free-sw-friendly websites in the bookmarks.  For example, for music :  
bandcamp.com , Jamendo (please correct me if these websites are not good  
suggestions)


Consider bookmarking Jason Self's website too:   
http://www.jxself.org/archive.shtml




Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread overbackup4


I see your point. Better to state the facts and declare that it is not  
installed/disabled.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread onpon4
I would disagree with claiming that it doesn't work for "entertainment  
websites" for two reasons:


1. It suggests that Trisquel is only suitable for research and work. This can  
make Trisquel seem more boring than it is.


2. It doesn't cover all cases of Flash use anyway. I've seen at least one  
case of a website designed for submitting homework that required Flash in  
many places and actually refused to let you even try to answer the questions  
if you didn't have Flash installed.


I'd suggest you just be up-front about it: say that Flash is not installed  
and that this is not an accident. Perhaps include a web address where they  
can find more information. Maybe people will decide that the decision is  
stupid, but it won't render the system useless; Flash really is unnecessary.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-08 Thread overbackup4


I have set up GNU boxes for public use before (not for a library).

For public use I would recommend booting off an image rather than installing  
to HD.


Could be a cdrom internal to the box, a USB key inside that the users cannot  
access or a thin client booting from the network.  This allows you to have a  
known base start point with each boot and any rootkits/backdoors/etc are  
scrubbed on each reboot. If persistent data is needed, place it on a separate  
local or network drive away from the OS.


One of the security points to lockdown is the ctrl-alt-F combinations that  
allow access to a login prompt. Remove these if you can.


Regarding the use of the box that you are setting up, does it really need  
flash installed?  If it is for research, wouldn't flash detract from this.
With enough sites pre-bookmarked or visible on the homepage of the browser,  
you can direct users to quality information resources that do not require  
flash (wiki etc).
Perhaps a physical sign next to it explaining that it is "For research use  
only and some entertainment websites will not work" will cover you when flash  
sites are not rendering.
I'd recommend making it known to the library staff that these sites will not  
be available to users, and that they can advise users to use a home PC or  
netcafe to look at entertainment based sites.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-07 Thread tobias

Flash is bad and there is no replacement for flash that works on all sites.
Recently I found out that soundcloud uses flash for uploading images, and  
Gnash did not work with soundcloud. I decided not to use soundcloud because  
of a flash requirement. For youtube I use minitube and youtube-dl.


[Trisquel-users] Setting up a Trisquel box at a public library

2014-08-07 Thread ssjgokux3

Hey everyone,

Okay so I am trying to blueprint a GNU/Linux box for educational use at my  
local library and I am completely f** terrified.


I want to use ONLY free software but I also am trying to build the machine  
for use by local students to do their homework on and for anyone of any age  
to use it to learn something or study or research. I'm specifically trying to  
design the machine to where anyone can learn programming, math, languages,  
chemistry, history, geography, etc etc However, I'm experiencing some anxiety  
here:


How would I set the machine up for people who are working on something that  
requires use of a Flash-based website? Because, I'm sorry to say, Gnash is  
just f** terrible and never works with anything it seems and I end up  
bashing my head against my keyboard after spending 4 straight hours trying to  
configure it to work. No. Really. I do.


I got around the Youtube issue with Gnash by installing an add-on to Abrowser  
called "Youtube ALL HTML5" so it uses HTML5 now but what about other sites?


My other question is has anyone here ever implemented a libre box at their  
local library for educational use? Or some other similar scenario? Looking  
for experienced help here.


Thank you for your time and patience with my overly anxious and rather blunt  
behavior :)