Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-12-01 Thread gnuhurd

Trans-bullshit propaganda.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-11-30 Thread davidvargas1
Super tramp stole my candy, then I will send more candy so he could sweeten  
hes life more often


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-11-30 Thread prian

https://youtu.be/YmnehX9V3m0?t=43s


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-11-30 Thread 9bi
No one should donate to the FSF until these threads die and the dude is  
prosecuted for obvious libel.

There's your "harm" that dude has done.
For so long as the troll is allowed to continue the libel, and these threads  
do not stop, forget donating, forget patches.

Such is the logical result of the troll's effort to begin with;
except this time the boycott is because the FSF apparently likes to be  
bullied. The FSF must enjoy playing the pariah.

Besides, the FSF is not extreme enough.

Start a new organization tied to the general feeling of oppression in  
society. The need for software freedom is only one symptom of what should be  
characterized as the rebellion of the productive forces against the narrow  
conditions of capitalist appropriation (profit) that the productive forces  
have long ago outgrown.


Again, the FSF is a waste of money since not only does it maintain the  
conditions it should be opposing; but the FSF also likes to be bullied at the  
expense of donors.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-11-30 Thread mkl80

If that it's true!!! Oh la la...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-11-29 Thread trevormetivier

gnu needs linux more than linux needs gnu


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-31 Thread onpon4
Just in case you're having this misunderstanding (I can't really tell, there  
are errors in your post that make it unclear), I want to clarify that Leah  
and Parabola are not affiliated with each other, at least not to my  
knowledge.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-31 Thread eliotime3000
As Paranola user, I feel sick about the hypocrite support of Leah of Parabola  
GNU/Linux-libre. Honestly, I've seen the Libreboot maillist and some of the  
FSF members concluded that the deleting of Leah's access of the FSF services  
was by take ALL THE credit of their work, and not by homophobia as he/she  
said.


Contribuitors like Leah infects and sicks the free software community and  
tersgiversate the concept of the Free Software Movement.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-31 Thread eliotime3000
Honestly, the "Ministry of Freedom" website is not part of Leah. Is basicly  
managed by Damien Zammit, and he stated that is against the attitudes of  
Leah.


http://zammit.org/libreboot-screwup.html

If exist a oportunity to fork Libreboot, I'll aproach it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-30 Thread tomlukeywood

Dragora is not a dead project BTW is very actively developed


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-29 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
As answered by many and also using the e-mail that tct just gave to the
list:

EOMA68 is a standard, not hardware itself. You are probably referring to
the Libre Tea Computer Card, which follows the standard. I once
contributed to redacting the publication on Parabola project's website
about Libre Tea Computer Card and also had hard time with people
confusing it with EOMA68. Please read the campaign text again and
slowly.

Also, taking tct's message as reference, you asked about software
pre-installed [probably] in the Libre Tea Computer Card (assumed since
you got the name wrong): If that's the case, only the Respects Your
Freedom certification can answer the question. Also tct replied in
regards to hardware designs, not software.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-29 Thread tct

The actual question I was asked and the actual answer I gave:

Hi Ron,

For hardware to be "libre", the printed circuit board (PCB) design
should be under a free license. RMS shares my point regarding EOMA68.

And anyway, if and when the PCB design files will be available under a
free license, modification will require a nonfree CAD software, because
the EOMA68 board has been designed using nonfree CAD software.

Thanks for asking,
Tiberiu

On 21.10.2016 20:16, ron wrote:
> On trisquel you say, eoma68 hardware is not libre. Explanation? Do you  
acknowledge that all software on the  
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop is free software?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-23 Thread tegskywalker
To be honest, it would be nice to have a statement from Ruben to clarify what  
is going on and to get his take on the whole thing. What did he do? Did he  
harass this employee or not? This is going to keep happening until Ruben  
brings some closure to the matter. He thinks that staying quiet is the best  
route, but his silence isn't helping his case in one bit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-22 Thread legimet . calc

EOMA68 isn't hardware, it's a standard.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-22 Thread svhaab
On tct's shop I asked if he agrees that all software on the crowdfunded  
computer card is free software? In his returning email he did not answer.
Further I asked him to explain 'eoma68 boards are not libre hardware. He  
answered, cad data is not free. And if it becomes free it makes no  
difference, because the cad data is made on non free cad software. He said,  
Stallman says the same thing.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-21 Thread onpon4
tct's avatar is a reference to the fact that the full PCB CAD files for the  
computer card have not been published yet. He made a big stink about this  
just before the crowdfunding campaign ended because he thought this made it  
deceptive for the campaign to claim that EOMA68 "has been a Libre Hardware  
and Software project right from the beginning". I and many others disagree  
with that assessment; for one thing, no one has received one of these  
computer cards yet, and whether or not the PCB CAD files will be available by  
the time they ship remains to be seen. If the PCB CAD files do get released  
by that time, then they would qualify as having a libre hardware design.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-21 Thread silentdreamer

You're probably right. :(

She's doing a lot of damage to the Trans community; perhaps even moreso than  
to those she's accusing. When someone from any group does something, it  
reflects on the group as a whole. It’s hard enough for them, now they have  
this embarrassment. I know some Transgender people, who, if faced with  
discrimination, would handle it better.This is so sad.


Someone will have to make her stop- legally.

It's also sad to see how much talk this is generating, there''s at least 3  
different threads I've seen about it here.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-21 Thread nicolasmaia

Sorry for going off-topic, but why isn't EOMA68 libre hardware?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I bet a lot of proprietary software developers and homophobes are rolling on  
the floor laughing. Watching this train wreck must make them feel vindicated.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread greatgnu
>We are opposed to the FSF, and Trisquel endorses them, so endorsing Trisquel  
means endorsing the FSF.


John stole my candy, mama gave the candy to me. If Sarah is friend with John,  
and you are friend with Sarah, I now can not be friend with you, 'cozz every  
time I see your mug I remember the candy I could not enjoy, and mama gave  
that candy to me. No friends no more, mama says.







Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread pinmaritim

Yes it's complete disinformation.

Personnaly i am fed up with all this ""personal's pesonal problems"which is  
relayed by certain other people.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread tct
And let's not forget Leah still endorses a lot both FSF and Trisquel in her  
libreboot-based business: https://minifree.org/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread pinmaritim

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread pinmaritim

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread tct

I'd like to comment on this page, stating some facts.

Leah recommends Parabola and says "We are opposed to the FSF, and Trisquel  
endorses them, so endorsing Trisquel means endorsing the FSF."


So does Parabola. Parabola endorses GNU and FSF, right from their Social  
Contract. They also have artwork promoting GNU and they are proud to be GNU.  
Even their domain name is parabola.nu. ;-)


https://wiki.parabola.nu/Parabola_Social_Contract
https://www.parabola.nu/news/gnu-and-bola-comic-book-titled-iot-is-available-in-british-english-language/
https://wiki.parabola.nu/File:Gnu08-mascot-logo_050ppi.png

She also writes "Dragora is a dead project."

That's not true. Their community is very active on the IRC channel and  
mailing lists, and they actively develop the imminent version 3.0.  
Considering this is the only fully free independent distro, I'd say this is  
pretty amazing!


https://www.dragora.org/repo.fsl/timeline
http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/dragora-users/
https://www.dragora.org/repo.fsl/doc/trunk/www/roadmap.md

Leah writes "gNewSense is a dead project".

That's not true, since they have launched a new release (4.0) this year and  
the community is active on their mailing lists. On their IRC channel too.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNewSense#Versions

"GuixSD is the GNU project's official distribution"

That's not true and it's misleading. GuixSD is yet another GNU distro based  
on a package manager (Guix) which is developed as part of the GNU project.  
It's not *the* GNU distro.


https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread greatgnu

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/boicot-trisquel-por-parte-de-libreboot#comment-104479


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel boycott by Libreboot

2016-10-20 Thread distopico
Libreboot has a page where invites to boycott Trisquel by discrimination by  
trans person, I think the FSF take this topic very calm, more today where  
there is so much gender discrimination.



"The lead developer (Ruben Rodriguez) of Trisquel is one of the accused FSF  
employees in their recent discriminatory firing of a trans person from the  
FSF, and Trisquel is one of the most aggressively promoted distributions on  
the part of the Free Software Foundation. We are opposed to the FSF, and  
Trisquel endorses them, so endorsing Trisquel means endorsing the FSF. "



https://libreboot.org/docs/fsf-distros/